Should Microsoft Sell Bing?

As is the norm these days, I woke up to some insanity in the Technology section of The New York Times. A column credited to two writers from Reuters Breakingviews recommends that Microsoft sell off its Bing online search engine, which has become "a distraction." Here's the rationale for this move:

Microsoft needs to concentrate on a different kind of search: finding a buyer for Bing, its online search business. Bing is the industry’s distant No. 2 after Google. It has become a distraction for the software giant — one that costs shareholders dearly. The division that houses Bing lost $2.6 billion in the latest fiscal year. Facebook, or even Apple, might make a better home for Bing. A sale would be a boon for Microsoft’s investors.

Microsoft’s online services unit, of which Bing is the main component, had $2.5 billion of sales in the year that ended June 30. Google is valued at about six times sales. At a 25 percent discount to Google, the unit would be worth about $11 billion.

Bing and sites it powers like Yahoo still control only about 27 percent of the United States market; Google has more than twice as much.

Only 27 percent, eh?

Huh. I wonder if we could think of another tech business that commands relatively tiny market share and yet never seems to get advice like this.

Oh, right: The Mac. In the most recent quarter, Apple sold 3.95 million Macs, compared to 84.8 million PCs, overall, worldwide. (That figure, as always, is an average of the estimates provided by IDC and Gartner.) That means that Macs represent just 4.65 percent of all PCs sold around the world. And maybe my memory is a bit hazy, but is the Mac considered anything other than a rousing success?

Here's the thing. I'm not saying Bing is poised to unseat Google. But come on. It controls almost 30 percent of the market in which the market leader's name is so entrenched it's commonly used as a verb. That's not horrible performance at all. And while I may vaguely agree that online search isn't necessarily central to Microsoft's core mission, I cannot agree that selling Bing makes more sense that continuing to invest in this product.

Coming from behind with small market share is tough. Just ask Apple: A decade ago it claimed less than 5 percent of the market for PCs. 10 years later, after massive growth that routinely outpaces general PC industry growth, the Mac commands--yep, you guessed it--less than 5 percent of the PC market.

All this said, I may be a voice of one on this topic. Charles Arthur from the UK's Guardian is also questioning the logic behind Bing this week.

So should Microsoft sell Bing?

Discuss this Article 20

ranblv
on Jul 25, 2011
I agree that MS should not sell Bing, but the comparison to Apple is incorrect since The Macs are hugely profitable. market share aside they still make tons of cash for apple. per your story Bing loses money...
markuslaff
on Jul 25, 2011
Well... who could they sell Bing to and would it put them at a disadvantage? Definitely not to Google... that is a company that is using their monopoly to actively move into your core businesses. Selling Bing to them would only empower them more. Apple? This may take one of the key differentiators of your platforms and give it to a competitor. Benefits? More cash... this is a company that has more cash than it knows what to do with. $11 billion sounds like a lot but they make that in 5 months. More cash hardly seems worth it. If they can successfully turn Bing into a platform, like the mentioned at WPC, it will make more sense in their product line up. Bing will be there to improve the functionality of their other products and help defend against Google.
ranblv
on Jul 25, 2011
I guess my previous comment died. I also think that MS should not sell Bing, but the comparison to apple is incorrect, Macs are hugely profitable for apple and per your story Bing loses money for MS.
argraphics
on Jul 25, 2011
Another marketshare Hard-ON!!!!! ITS ABOUT $$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!! So what if a company has.0000001% marketshare if there printing money left and right!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FlyerMike
on Jul 25, 2011
Wow -- 27% is way higher than I thought Bing would have! That is also roughly the same percentage Firefox has in its market and it is considered a success. Congrats to Bing!
Orindlt
on Jul 25, 2011
No - because at a minimum it forces Google to continue to innovate. Search needs to keep getting better. If Microsoft's hungry enough and keeps improving Bing, Google either keeps improving its search or it ends up losing ground.
Mustang17
on Jul 25, 2011
I see Bing as part of the good feel factor when using Microsoft products. Its still a growing project in face of the mighty Google, but at 27% in the US market, I would have to agree with you that is pretty good. I have felt for sometime, of an undercurrent of people who cant help but put Microsoft down for any reason they can think of. This and being blind to other tech companies struggling to get into double figures of their market even after decades of trying. My answer would be no, they shouldn't sell it.
eajhnsn1
on Jul 25, 2011
No way should they sell Bing. It's finally a foothold upon which they can build, and are building, other services. Can you imagine if they had to negotiate licensing to get Windows Phone to primarily use Google for everything it currently uses Bing for?
Joe05
on Jul 25, 2011
There is no way Microsoft should sell Bing, and I don't think this is a topic of discussion at Microsoft just some silly hacks who have no idea of how Buisness works. But it think the silliest suggestion that they should consider selling Bing to Apple, if there is any company with the technical prowess to create a search engine from scratch it's Microsoft, this also plays to Microsofts DNA, search is a platform and Microsoft is a platform company. To do search you have to scale and scale big, Microsoft has built out data centers all over the world to scale search as well as other things, Facebook has neither to money or the technical expertise and Apples new Data center wouldn't cut it, and Apple has no expertise in search.
ianaldrighetti
on Jul 25, 2011
Well, there is a slight difference about Microsoft's search engine market share and Apple's computer market share: Apple is actually making money. But I don't think they should sell Bing, they just need to keep heading forward.
Keleko
on Jul 25, 2011
If they should sell anything, it should be the Windows Phone stuff. It has declined in share and looks to only be getting worse, not better. If Nokia is their only last hope, then they don't appear to have much of one. Compared to the fast rise of iPhone and even faster rise of Android, MS is not going to succeed in this market. Perhaps what MS should do to save their mobile space is to buy RIM. RIM is still a go-to choice for corporate email and communications for a lot of large companies. Microsoft owns the corporate desktop email, so this would give them their best shot at gaining a decent share in the mobile space. This also gives them their own hardware outlet. As long as they are depending on handset makers that are in love with Android, MS will continue to be a minor player. Nokia is the one exception, and they already look like they're in trouble by not going with Android after all.
dgardfrey
on Jul 25, 2011
Bing is a key part of the new Microsoft "ecosystem," especially true for Windows Phone and upcoming Windows 8 tablets. That alone justifies MS' continued investment in Bing, and of course, the fact that it's a good product (particularly on mobile). Bing also... allows MS to avoid dependence on Google; provides competition (which has yielded several improvements on both sides); could become profitable should Windows Phone / Windows 8 tablets capture a significant share of mobile search.
yoshipod
on Jul 25, 2011
So in Paul's mind it is insane for a a business article (not a technology article as Paul tries to spin it. See the section header, the URL and the rest of the story talking about ratings on treasury bonds if you have any doubts) to suggest a company get rid of a unit that lost Billions of dollars last year. As the article points out, that move would have improved MS's bottom line by 10%. This suggestion was not decrying the technology or the importance of Bing, but was looking at it from a strictly dollars and cents view of MS and their stock. But as usual, Paul has to drag Apple into this by invoking the market share argument, and completely ignoring profitability and the point the author was trying to make. I guess Paul is one of those, "Sure we lose money with every sale, but we make it up in volume" kind of guys.
Mustang17
on Jul 25, 2011
Yoshi, in a previous article Paul pointed out that the New York Times dragged up a story from 15 years ago that Microsoft were the bad guys, when in the current article it had absolutley nothing to do with Microsoft. This constant put down of is all to prevelant within a lot of the tech press and especially with the New York Times and quite a few newspapers over here in the UK. He still makes a valid point in his reasoning, he isnt dragging down Apple, just short sighted journalists. Oh and my comments are appearing again, doesnt that thought just cheer you up? :-)
MSInsider
on Jul 25, 2011
To put this into perspective, you have to ask yourself why Microsoft created the search and adverstising platform, Bing in the first place? Although Google, at the time, was primarly a search and advertising company, Microsoft knew that Google, at its heart, was a pure technology company. Microsoft knew that Google would take the revenue from advertising and try to move into areas where Microsoft was king. I.E..Browser, OS (Mobile, Laptop), Office, etc. The way, I see it, the creation of Bing was a defensive move to slow down Google's main revenue source and decrease the chance of Google moving onto Microsoft's turf. I'm convinced that Microsoft is less concerned about Bing making money and more concerned with Google not making money. They're hoping that as Bing's marketshare increases, Google's will decrease as will revenue. This is why, I suggest that Microsoft make no money on Bing and give away all advertising for free with the hopes of making money on other related services. Similar to Google giving Android away for free in hopes of growing marketshare and making money off of other bundles services. Unfortunately though, the search business is one of economies of scale as the biggest player only gets stronger, able to refine its algorithms, and pay out bigger revenues... a virtuous cycle. Microsoft is caught in a chicken and egg dilemma, hence the reason they have created partnerships with Yahoo and Badu in hopes of getting more scale to help create said cycle. Consequently, Microsoft has no choice but to continue pounding the pavement in hopes to grow Bing because otherwise, Google get bigger, stronger, with more revenue, and continues to push into Microsoft's bread and butter revenue sources.
yoshipod
on Jul 25, 2011
@Mustang17 Are you suggesting that Paul saying Apple should sell of its Macintosh business because it has a small market share is a reasonable comparison? You do realize that Apple MAKES Billions of dollars selling Macintosh computers and that Microsoft has LOST billions on Bing. Paul is just picking his facts to try and make the NYT look bad. Trying to use market share when the article is about profitability. No where did the article say Bing was bad technology. This is simply about the numbers. MS earnings would be 10% higher this past year without Bing. Is that really hard to understand? This is simply about shareholder value. Right now Bing is a drag on earnings. Did you see how he even lied about that article being a technology article, when its a business one? But in Paul's world, facts don't always matter I guess. He is just applying his usual spin since he can't accept that MS is no longer the industry darling as it was years ago. Things change, someday, Apple will no longer be the favorite son either. Really, if you want to criticize that article, it should be for the suggestion they sell Bing to Apple, not that they sell it. Glad to hear your comments are appearing now!
Mustang17
on Jul 26, 2011
NYT is bad, it has a wonderful bias against Microsoft, and its by far not the only one, its quite prevelant around the world, Paul's site helps put a bit of balance back in. As it for being a business issue, yes it is, but is about two giants in the tech industry and one of their search engines, and how long they have been in the tech industry. So yeah its about tech. Its about tech industries doing business, its very entwined. Paul is not quiet in knocking Microsoft if its needed, especially over the updates for the Windows Phone, and he will praise Apple when they are doing something right. However that's not the issue here, the issue here is a simple bias in the media against Microsoft, or as he points out being blind to the fact that Apple aint doing as well in terms of market share as one of its main rivals. He isnt knocking Apple here, just how things are reported. Apple say Lion is the 'world's most advanced operating system'. Is it really? Or is it just marketing hype to make you part with your cash? Now, thats business.
yoshipod
on Jul 26, 2011
Wow Mustang17, you are a almost as bad as Paul. Please explain how it is biased to recommend that a company divest itself of a division that has yet to make a profit and has directly negatively impacted earnings, hurting the bottom line by $2.6B this past year. I guess it is biased when that company is MS. Market share is irrelevant in this case. This is all about profitability. Therefore Paul's example and your repetition of it is just wrong. If Apple was losing billions by selling OS X machines, you would have point, as many did back in the 1990's when the were losing hundreds of millions of dollars each quarter. But they are not. Market share != Profitability. That is what this is about. That is why that is a terrible comparison. Once again, to sum up. Business Article, not Technology. (Paul outright lies about this at start of article) About profitability, not market share. (Paul picks his metric to spin the story, ignoring the most important metric) Story does not concern Apple. (but Paul has to bring them in....Again) Paul upset that someone is biased against Microsoft and finds examples in places they don't exist. (Meanwhile he continues to biased against Apple and Pro MS)
glonq
on Jul 26, 2011
Paul pokes at Microsoft enough that most ardent MS fanboys dismiss him as a rebel and traitor to their cause. But to regular folk, his tireless Apple-bashing gives him legitimate "street cred" as a pro-MS guy. So when he evades the issue of Bing being a money-losing blunder of unprecedented degree ($8 Billion to date) by setting up Apple's Mac as a straw man, I'm not sure whether he truly believes what he's writing or not. I think he knows the difference between Bing and the Mac. Macs are profitable; Bing is (very!) not. Mac HW and OS is competitive with PC technology; Bing has to steal users' google results to improve itself. Macs are "core" to apple (lol pun); Bing is a distraction. Macs are cool and appealing; Bing is sexy like grandma in a mini-skirt. [Disclaimer: I don't own a mac. Still trying to shake the Stockholm Syndrome that 90% of windows users have]
glonq
on Jul 27, 2011
Paul pokes at Microsoft enough that most ardent MS fanboys dismiss him as a rebel and traitor to their cause. But to regular folk, his tireless Apple-bashing gives him legitimate "street cred" as a pro-MS guy. So when he evades the issue of Bing being a money-losing blunder of unprecedented degree ($8 Billion to date) by setting up Apple's mac as a straw man, I'm not sure whether he truly believes what he's writing or not. I think he knows the difference between Bing and the Mac. Macs are profitable; Bing is (very!) not. Mac HW and OS is competitive with PC technology; Bing has to steal users' google results to improve itself. Macs are "core" to apple (lol pun); Bing is a distraction. Macs are cool and appealing; Bing is sexy like grandma in a mini-skirt. [Disclaimer: I don't own a mac. Still trying to shake the Stockholm Syndrome that 90% of windows users have]

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