2010 CES: Day 1

Last night, I attended the Digital Experience press event at the Mirage. Excellent, as always. (And you can check out some photos from the event on my Day 0 Photos page.)

Some of the notable products at the event:

Google Nexus One - I got to check out Google's new smartphone and like it quite a bit. I may have to get one when it ships on Verizon this Spring. The animated backgrounds were surprisingly fun. But the big news here, of course, is the maturation of Android. It's amazing how far they've come so quickly.

Lenovo PCs. I rambled on a lot yesterday about Lenovo's sweeping new ThinkPad, IdeaPad, and IdeaCentre designs, but they were on hand last night as well. Their hybrid notebook is shaping up as the best product at CES. It's absolutely stunning.

Toshiba was showing off the latest version of the netbook my kids and I all use; this year's version comes in basically the same form factor, but it's got the updated Atom parts and the 6-cell battery no longer juts out the back as it does on ours.

Barnes & Noble had their Nook eBook reader so I got so see how it stacks up against the Kindle. I'm not impressed, sorry. The performance is horrible, the default fonts on the newspapers I viewed were horrible, and that color strip at the bottom doesn't work very well. I spent some time in the new eBook "tech area" in the LVCC Central Hall and wasn't impressed by anything I saw there either: The Kindle is still the device to beat.

Microsoft had a small table for Windows Mobile and I got to catch up with Greg Sullivan, which was nice. He had the amazing HTC HD2 on hand, and this is the sweetest Windows Mobile 6.5 device I've ever seen, with an iPhone-like capacitive touch screen that runs at 800 x 480. It's not just nice for WM, it's just plain sweet, and the screen makes all the difference in the world. I may have to get one of those as well.

Leo Laporte, Dr. Kiki Sanford, and Colleen Kelly were on hand from TWiT with the cameras rolling. I hung around a bit while they interviewed Alex Pournelle and toured backstage.

I hung out with Neowin's Tom Warren, Andrew Lyle, and Brad Sams for a bit before finally crashing. The three hour time change is brutal.

Which explains my late start today, of course.

The Las Vegas Convention Center, or LVCC, is humongous, a town-sized convention center of multiple sections and floors, and it holds thousands of booths and over one hundred thousand people easily. Getting around it is difficult at best. I started in the South Hall so I could scope out the broadcast booth, which is where Leo and I will be recording the Windows Weekly podcast at 10 am PT tomorrow (Friday). That done, I spent a few hours in the Central Hall, which is mostly irrelevant (to me) audio-video companies. Super-thin LG HDTVs. A 152-inch Panasonic Plasma. Some interesting Sony stuff, including new netbooks and Blu-Ray equipment and lots and lots of 3D. You know, the usual.

Microsoft's booth had all the expected sections devoted to Windows 7, Office 2010, Media Center, MediaRoom, Zune, Bing, Xbox 360, and so on. I ran into Gary Schare there and checked out some of the interesting Play To devices, including some TVs and the new version of the WDTV, which includes Ethernet now. There were some nice Windows Home Server machines, many of which are starting to ape the HP MediaSmart's small all-in-one design.

Across from Microsoft's main booth was a separate area for its embedded stuff, primarily the Microsoft Auto products. There's new functionality for Ford Sync, including touchscreen support, steering wheel-based 5-way navigation controls, and in-car Wi-Fi. Microsoft was also showing off its new system for Kia, called UVO. This isn't shipping until the 2011 models hit, but it's hands-free, includes Wi-Fi connectivity, and is somewhat like Sync. The thing that's interesting about this stuff is that it puts a version of Windows into an unexpected place, the car. And with Ford selling over 1 million Sync-based autos so far, it gives new life to the phrase "Windows Everywhere."

That said, the one thing that really stuck me today was how the Microsoft's and Intel's of the world have been pushed aside from their former front-and-center position right inside the main Central Hall doorways. This may not be a snub, per se--this is CES, after all, and is dedicated to CE, not computer companies. But it is notable, I think, that traditional CE companies are back in the thick of things. I guess it makes sense. But it does make the show less interesting to me. I can only look at so many flat panels before my eyes glaze over.

I'll have some photos up later today, I hope. And tonight I'll be attending Lenovo's Aquaknox event, but probably not Showstoppers too. We'll see. Last night was a bit too late. :)

Tomorrow, of course, is the live Window Weekly recording. More as it happens...

Discuss this Article 26

Ocean
on Jan 7, 2010
"The Kindle is still the device to beat." Agreed. "There's new functionality for Ford Sync" New York times readers are in a bit of an uproar about all this technology going into cars. Check out the comments. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/technology/07distracted.html?hpw
Ocean
on Jan 7, 2010
Who knew Android had fanboys? Poor Pogue: "I think I may have accidentally unearthed a whole new untapped population online: the Android Army. -- The ferocity of the feedback, in the Comments and in my e-mail box, was surprising. These people were taking the review—which was, after all, largely positive—personally, as though their honor had been impugned. -- I’m at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week, and I found myself in conversation with editors from tech blogs Gizmodo, Engagdget and Gdgt. To my amazement, all three had noticed exactly the same thing: that the Android Army is amassing, and they don’t mince words. (Engadget also gave the Nexus One a generally positive review, and received similarly toxic feedback.)" http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/reader-responses-to-review-of-...
Waethorn
on Jan 7, 2010
I ordered an x100e to try out. Just the base model. I plan on doing my own upgrades - 4GB, Win7 Pro x64, and a bigger drive (maybe - if I need it). The only upgrade I ordered over the base model is Bluetooth. Suppliers have stock of it already, but they're not listing them on price lists yet. Turns out reseller cost on the two original base models (excluding the 3rd one on the US site) only allows for about 4% retail markup. That's just pathetic. I have to say though, that after Paul posted about them, I checked the Canadian page, and they weren't posted. The next day they were though, and they listed the original US non-sale converted price. That's $647CDN for the starting price, where it was "on sale" on the US page for $449US. I almost sh*t! Luckily today they dropped the price to a more respectable $499CDN. It's still high though. Current exchange rates would place the price at only $463CDN, but if they're shipping only into the US from overseas before bringing them into Canada, the customs duties would add about another $30/unit anyway, so from a business cost standpoint, I can kind of understand why the price is so much higher here. Once I get it, I'll let you know what the performance is like. I intend to try out XP Mode on it, and some general multimedia. Flash playback is going to be interesting, since Flash 10.0 only works on CPU power, and Atom systems just plain suck at fullscreen YouTube. With the Radeon 3200, I might try using ATI's hardware-accelerated Catalyst encoder, and a few games too. Just for Paul's sake, I'll try MW2 on it.
anonymous
on Jan 7, 2010
This post was mentioned on Twitter by eoghann_feed: 2010 CES: Day 1 http://bit.ly/4CqGgL
rr0de74@live.com
on Jan 7, 2010
@Ocean and your link... these comments he posted are hilarious. A few of their beefs: * “It’s ridiculous that you dinged the N1 for not having a physical ringer switch. Millions of phones have no ringer switches and they manage just fine.” * “You are an idiot. You write that only 190 MB is available for holding apps, but I hear that Google is planning to fix that in software next year.” * “You write that the Nexus One doesn’t have a multi-touch screen, but it does; Google just didn’t enable it. You should be fired for your incompetence.” Seriously I have NEVER owned a phone that could not be muted/vibrate mode without a button. Those other two comments are the definition of ignorance.
Backup77
on Jan 7, 2010
@Waethorn I will be interested to see how you go with the x100e. They are a nice looking machine and the 11.6" display will be sweet. Will you be getting the single or dualcore AMD Athlon Neo?
tayme
on Jan 7, 2010
Palm had some pretty major announcements for WebOS devices..including a C and C++ programming PDK and new games that EA and others have been working on behind the scenes. Also coming is Flash support and Video recording and editing. Overall, so far this has been a decent CES. Lots on new and exciting things coming from a lot of various companies. --tayme
redunion1940
on Jan 7, 2010
Also what about Qualcomm to use Globalfoundries, I mean thats pretty big news.
mikegno
on Jan 8, 2010
Paul's impression of the HD2 supports my thesis that the main problem with Windows Mobile has not been the software. Yeah, the software's a bit dated and needs some sprucing up. But, it's the horrible hardware that MS's mobile partners have gotten away with for years that has hurt WinMO most. It has a lot to do with the incentives in our screwed up cell phone business models. It's as if everyone had been forced to run vista on Celerons with 1G ram. This has gone on so long because of a lack of competition. It is only the ablility of Apple to include fast hardware because of its control of the platform that has finally hit MS and it's partners up the side of the head. Even then, the response has been really slow. I just go an HTC Touch Pro 2 which first appeared last summer.. It's got a great business form factor wtth the same screen resolution as the HD2. However, it's running the same processor as those phones HTC was selling in 2008 and it's got a resistive screen. And, it doesn't included 3D drivers. It's only the great hackability of the phone that has made it worthwhile. The popularity of the Droid is another example of how good hardware can sell a phone. I looked at it closely before buying, but the software was still immature and lacked support for activesync unless you we willing to let google steal all your personal info. But it was still a huge hit because it was fast. If MS had had the clout to get a phone out by now based on the Zune hardware platform, you would not be hearing all this talk of the demise of Windows Mobile and Android would be looking pretty lame.
DRWAM
on Jan 8, 2010
mikegno, my buddy got the Verizon HTC ERIS, a DROID. I had no problem setting up email with our Exchange Server. It worked fine. I did not check if the calendar worked as he does not use it. POP3 with Comcast worked well too.
mikegno
on Jan 8, 2010
DRWAM: Two things. 1. HTC does with android what it's done with WinMo and has included some of its own software to make up for deficiencies of the underlying os. Based on a review of complaints on mobile message boards, the HTC software lacked a few features, but was better than stock. 2. As of late December when I finally decided against the Droid, stock Android still didn't support exchange security settings. You could hook up to Exchange servers, but only by the software lying about security features, much as the iPhone software was doing when Apple first introduced exchange support. There was somoe extensive threads of IT administrators asking Google to fix this as they wanted to get droids themselves. Of course, exchange support seemed to work fine with gmail accounts, but this wouldn't satisfy businesses or individuals concerned about security. I do expect that this will get fixed, but it's one of those things getting overlooked in the hype. BTW, I seriously considered the Eris. It's pretty sweet, but I needed a few more features
Dipsh t Admin
on Jan 8, 2010
Ocean, read Paul's post some time ago about the thin skin of "certain" fans. Apparently Pogue has never dealt with ardent fanboys. Paul says welcome to the club.
DRWAM
on Jan 8, 2010
I did not know that Mike. I have a 3G and just bought a 32 GB 3GS for my wife for XMAS. She just wanted a calendar and a phone with a big screen. So far, she just uses it for a phone, but really loves it. Here in Southern New Jersey, 3G coverage is great and we don't get dropped calls. My phone is 18 months old and has had no problems at all. Still, the new chip switch by Apple makes me wonder if it was a tablet or for the iPhone to use CDMA with Verizon, or both. What hurts is that I told many friends not to wait for the iPhone to come to Verizon! I guess we shall see in a few months.
mikegno
on Jan 8, 2010
Ocean: Don't know if you were addressing me, and, if so, what I said. I don't see why VZW would really want the iPhone at the moment. It's already #1 and can brag about it's network. Why impose that load on it. It's got a good relationship with Google as it offers several android phones and supposedly will get the Nexus in a few months. My guess is the members of the Droid Horde and old WinMo crowd aren't as interested in the streaming apps that are killing ATT's network. VZW also seems to sell a lot of HTC phones and between that and Google's android support, I doubt it's paying anything like the huge subsidies Apple gets from ATT. Now the Apple tablet may be a different proposition. They could make it a mainly wifi device so it doesn't kill the network but have VZW voice for home and mobile use and mobile data connectiivity for the Starbucks crowd.
DRWAM
on Jan 8, 2010
Thanks Mike. Those are very good reasons why the iPhone may not be desired by VZW. Ppl look to me as their tech guru, and I'd hate to be wrong as some of them bought the DROID, and others switched, partly because I told them that I did not think that the VZW would not get the iPhone. Like I said, the ATT network is just as good as VZW or better, but some travel and have relatives on VZW, so I hope their decision works for them [and I don't look bad]. Doc PS Did you check out some of those LED TV's at CES!!!! Wow
Waethorn
on Jan 8, 2010
" They are a nice looking machine and the 11.6" display will be sweet. Will you be getting the single or dualcore AMD Athlon Neo?" It's only available as a single-core according to Lenovo's site (unless they have a dual-core listed for another country other than US or Canada). The MSI Wind12 U230 and HP dv2 are the only ones I know of with a dual-core, but the Wind isn't out yet, and the HP has a much higher price point (around $799CDN).
roteague
on Jan 8, 2010
I can't get into the Lenovo, it doesn't look groundbreaking to me, it just looks odd. I'm much more inclined to buy the HP Tablet; it fits my needs much better, and I already have a TouchPad PC. I think I would use it mostly as an ebook reader; the current crop of readers leave me cold, being only in B&W.
Waethorn
on Jan 8, 2010
@roteague: I've been waiting a while for an OEM to come out with some kind of business-centric netbook based on the easy-to-follow AMD Vision platform specifications. Now there is one, and I expect others to follow. The platform (Vision Pro) is awesome for businesses because you get enterprise manageability as well as full support of corporate operating systems, as well as VT support across the board. Intel only markets $800+ target platforms for that grade of business support, which is pretty pathetic IMO. Consumers have had choices of low-cost to high-end systems with great functionality for more than the last year, but business customers have to either splurge, or compromise. Now they don't have to. Just to summarize the AMD Vision platforms, here's what they mean to buyers: Vision: general mainstream computing, basic graphics (usually Athlon II/Neo, and integrated Radeon HD 3200/4200) Vision Premium: faster multitasking without additional graphics (Athlon II/Turion II with faster speed drives and more memory, still integrate Radeon HD 4200) Vision Ultimate (AKA Vision Black): ultimate multitasking with improved graphics (Turion II [Ultra] w/ discrete Radeon HD 4500 or better) Vision Pro: Vision platform for business (so far specs for this are equivalent to standard Vision platform specs) Also FYI: The only differences between Radeon HD 3200 and 4200 are that the 3200 only supports DX10.0, while the 4200 is DX10.1. The 4200 also has an updated version of the UVD. Both support the same level of OpenGL though, and both have the same clock speeds and number of shaders (40, vs. Ion's 9400 relatively low 16). Both support ATI Stream technology, so you can use software that supports Stream (like ATI's Catalyst video encoder), or future software that supports DX Compute Shader. Oh, and the Radeon HD 3200 will easily beat anything that Intel has shipping now.
Waethorn
on Jan 8, 2010
"I can't get into the Lenovo, it doesn't look groundbreaking to me, it just looks odd. I'm much more inclined to buy the HP Tablet" Which one? The mobile screen one or the x100e that we're talking about? The mobile screen thing seems kinda silly to me. Smart Display technology is already here, and I think users are going to be confused when they take the screen off and realize that it isn't Windows running on it. The x100e is for businesses too, so it sounds like it doesn't fit within the characteristics of what you're looking for.
mikegno
on Jan 8, 2010
Great comment on Google over at The Register. Agree with it wholeheartedly. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/08/google_nexus_partner_friendly/
Waethorn
on Jan 8, 2010
@Backup: Remember that this is like a business equivalent of a netbook (even though they don't call it that). If you compare it to other netbooks though, this has much better performance than anything with an Atom (even Pine Trail).
roteague
on Jan 8, 2010
"Waethorn said: Which one? The mobile screen one or the x100e that we're talking about?" I'm not sure of the model number, but it's the small one - looks like about 7" - that Steve Ballmer is holding. I'm looking more for something that can be used for light reading; most of the books I read have a lot of color, so a traditional eReader just doesn't work for me. I'd also use it for some light note taking.
roteague
on Jan 8, 2010
"Waethorn said: I've been waiting a while for an OEM to come out with some kind of business-centric netbook based on the easy-to-follow AMD Vision platform specifications." I'm perfectly fine with AMD, both my desktop and my HP TouchPad have AMD processors. The only Intel device I have is a Windows Home Server.
Waethorn
on Jan 8, 2010
"I'm not sure of the model number, but it's the small one - looks like about 7" - that Steve Ballmer is holding." No, I meant the Lenovo that you weren't interested in. Were you talking about the U1 with the pull-away tablet, or the x100e netbook that we were talking about? "I'm perfectly fine with AMD, both my desktop and my HP TouchPad have AMD processors." Ya HP is probably AMD's biggest system manufacturer partner right now. I credit HP's diversity as being one of the reasons why they superceded Dell as the #1 PC builder in the world. HP doesn't seem as interested in offering systems based on any particular platforms one way or the other though. They do offer nice systems for consumers in that you can find something with very good performance without paying a lot of money, but although their product line is offering more and more AMD systems, they aren't focussed on targeting any messages towards either Intel or AMD platforms. The wealth of diversity that they offer can make them their own worst enemy, because it leads to major complexities in SKU sorting, as well as confusion for a buyer looking for a specific platform. Their product line-up is kind of a mish-mash of everything that's out there right now. I think they need to simplify it a lot more than they have it right now. It's often difficult to find a system with specific components from HP. Chances are they have it, but can you find it? Add to that the fact that they have 3 different laptop families, JUST FOR CONSUMERS - HP Value, Compaq Presario, and HP Pavilion, and then massive numbers of series, and then several models and SKU's of each. One thing I wish OEM's would offer is just a unified platform for building custom notebooks. Start off with different sizes of shells first - netbook, a couple size of notebook, and a desktop-replacement size. Make it so the customer can pick AMD or Intel, and then integrated or discrete graphics. The rest of the stuff should be standard options - HDD, RAM, additional ports like eSATA, 1394, card readers, etc, should be all modular options that can be installed easily in a static place on the chassis. Intel tried doing this before and failed - twice. They failed to get many ODM's on board because they tried clamping down on too many options without leaving some flexibility open. I'd like to see AMD get in with something like that though. The ATX standard is still the defacto desktop standard and every motherboard and chassis manufacturer builds to that spec, even today, with BTX failed due to Intel trying to proprietarily control it. Why can't we have the same thing for notebooks?
roteague
on Jan 8, 2010
"Waethorn said: "I'm not sure of the model number, but it's the small one - looks like about 7" - that Steve Ballmer is holding." No, I meant the Lenovo that you weren't interested in. Were you talking about the U1 with the pull-away tablet, or the x100e netbook that we were talking about?" Sorry, yes that is the one I'm talking about. You are right about HP, they seem to try to get people to buy their preconfigured systems, rather than built it to order.
Waethorn
on Jan 8, 2010
Ya, the U1 might seem interesting, but we've seen this technology before. It would be better if they just offered Windows CE on it, and did Remote Desktop over WiFi. I'm sure it would be easier to just skin Windows CE to look like the Windows Aero Basic theme (ie. Aero without the translucensies) than start from fresh with a Linux distro. Plus, NVIDIA already has Tegra working some Windows CE magic already. Using Tegra as an acceleration processor for an Aero theme for WinCE would be SUPERMEGAWICKEDAWESOME! The Linux software that they have would have to have some kind of sync option for files or whatever so that users don't have a, ahem, disjointed experience using one of these devices. "You are right about HP, they seem to try to get people to buy their preconfigured systems, rather than built it to order." The Canadian page doesn't even allow for BTO anymore. What's worse is that they have exclusive reseller SKU's listed on their regular page, often with enhanced specs, but for the same price as the ones they sell themselves. The issue is that often those SKU's are for limited sale, and resellers sell out of them fast. It's disheartening to know that you could've got one at one particular time with enhanced specs over their regular price, but usually not by the time you read it on HP's site. Often those SKU's are for direct resellers though, not for resellers that buy through distribution. Distributors only carry the standard SKU's, but often with single-digit markup percentage offerings (usually 5% or less to compete with HP's selling price).

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