A Windows 7 product editions follow-up (or, why Starter edition matters and Home Basic does not)

As I had hoped, I've gotten a ton of email about my new Windows 7 Product Editions comparison, which provides a nice breakdown of which features are available in which Windows 7 product edition(s). Check it out if you haven't.

Naturally, a lot of the feedback has involved features that aren't mentioned in the charts, so I've been updating it regularly since first posting the article yesterday, most obviously with a new section on Enterprise features. The goal, of course, is to make the comparison as complete and accurate as possible and evolve it over time. But the current version of the article is based on the different product editions that are available in Windows 7 build 7068, and that build isn't complete. Indeed, over the past several builds, some features have disappeared (presumably temporarily). The Windows Media Player "Play To" feature, for example, has been almost entirely missing in action for several builds now (it appears only if you have a Media Center Extender configured). And in build 7068, Guest Mode (previously called PC Safeguard) is suddenly gone. I'll add that back if and when I can.

But the single biggest piece of feedback I've gotten involves the Home Basic and Starter editions of Windows 7. Why, I've been asked repeatedly, have I placed Home Basic at the start of the product editions list? Shouldn't Starter by first, since that is presumably the lowest-end edition?

Here's why it's listed the way it is. Microsoft explained that it was reversing the roles of Windows 7 Starter and Home Basic editions back in early February. I wrote about this news in my original Windows 7 Product Editions article. Now, Windows 7 Starter edition is a mainstream Windows version that will be sold worldwide, and there is talk that many netbook makers will preinstall this version because it will be so inexpensive. Windows 7 Home Basic, meanwhile, will be made available only in emerging markets. I actually considered leaving Home Basic off of the comparison charts all together (as I had left off Starter in my similar Windows Vista chart from a few years back) because it will impact so few readers of this site. I didn't do so because I knew I'd get emails wondering about it. But given how this has gone, maybe I'll leave it off a future version of the list and include a note about Home Basic instead. We'll see.

Anyway, I hope this clears things up. Put simply, Starter could very likely factor into a future buying decision you will make, while Home Basic will not.

Discuss this Article 18

Waethorn
on Mar 31, 2009
"many netbook makers will preinstall this version because it will be so inexpensive" The question is: how inexpensive? OEM System Builder versions of Vista Home Basic vs. Home Premium differ by about $20. Several Canadian IT suppliers (Ingram Micro, Tech Data, etc.) are now charging $140-150 COST for a copy of Vista Home Premium, and Vista Business is getting up to former Vista Ultimate prices (<$200). Intel motherboards aren't dropping in price either, while the Nehalem stuff isn't moving fast enough to bring older Core 2 processor prices down that much. Unless Starter is well less than $75 cost, there's little initiative to use it. If it's cheap enough, then it'll be a good value for a very low-cost netbook. I just fear that it'll be used as an excuse by manufacturers to flood the market with underpowered toy computers while keeping component prices for mainstream systems up to make up for poor sales (many components have gone up in price, including the cost of premium versions of Windows).
pthurrott
on Mar 31, 2009
Waethorn: As inexpensive as XP Home is today. There will be as much incentive to use it as there is to use XP. That is, over 90 percent of netbooks will continue shipping with Windows.
bettieblu
on Mar 31, 2009
"Microsoft explained that it was reversing the roles of Windows 7 Starter and Home Basic editions" This seriously takes the cake right here. As if keeping the many versions was not enough, lets flip the names around in case you thought you were finally understanding the difference. Does ANYONE at Microsoft not understand that they constantly MIND "F" their user base with product confusion??????? Its like they WANT to cause product confusion. Paul has an article with 10 charts breaking down the versions. Sometimes I think whomever makes some of these decisions is really a plant from Apple. A deep cover agent helping MS slit their own throats. The same person was probably responsible for the Bill and Jerry ads.
kenmcnamee
on Mar 31, 2009
I wish I could remember where I heard this but I seem to remember reading that OEMs will only pay something like $10-15 for Windows 7 Starter Edition for installation on netbooks. In other words, it is so cheap that there is no reason to subject users to the horrors of Linux. I wonder what the Anytime Upgrade price will be to go from Starter to Home Premium.
kenmcnamee
on Mar 31, 2009
bettieblu, the simple fact is that the average user is not going to be exposed to these many versions. Netbooks will probably come preinstalled with Windows 7 Starter and all other consumer laptops/desktops will overwhelmingly be Windows 7 Home Premium. Professional and Enterprise are aimed at business users while Ultimate will be something you can upgrade to but no vendor is going to install Ultimate and tack on an additional $100 in cost for almost no benefit to the consumer. So, when you go into Best Buy you are going to see Starter on netbooks and Home Premium on everything else. There won't be any OS version decisions to make so there will be no confusion.
bettieblu
on Mar 31, 2009
@kenmcnamee its seems to me that MS does this with all of its products. Passport, MSN, hotmail, live mail. 7 different versions of Office. The Xbox 360 has what 3, 4 and it even change the name of the hard drive - less model from basic or whatever to arcade. What is the difference between, live sync, live drive and mesh? When Vista shipped with 5 versions there were many that complained. Now 7 has 5 still and the icing on the cake, the name of the bottom two has now switched. Oh and consumers not seeing these versions, I dont buy it. Lots of PC's that run during the peek sales times, back to school and holidays sales, shipped with Home Basic as a way to make the price really low. Now it will be Starter?
tayme
on Mar 31, 2009
It is rather crazy to swap the names like that...but, jsut like the whole ignorant PC vs Mac wars that you all like to fight, average Joes do not even know that is going on. Only the tech enthusiasts and bloggers taht like to get some of the MSM fired up about such things. --tayme
kenmcnamee
on Mar 31, 2009
bettieblu: Sorry, no way was I trying to defend Microsoft's horrendous product versioning and naming strategies over the years. Have you seen the Visual Studio version family tree? Oy. No, I was only defending the Windows 7 versioning which I think is actually very reasonable and Microsoft has made a good effort to simplfy it in the retail channel. Also, by making each version build on top of the lesser version with more features it will make it very easy for enthusiasts to choose the version that is best for them. "Oh and consumers not seeing these versions, I dont buy it. Lots of PC's that run during the peek sales times, back to school and holidays sales, shipped with Home Basic as a way to make the price really low. Now it will be Starter?" I may be wrong but I don't believe Starter is allowed by Microsoft to be offered on anything other than netbooks. Regular consumer laptops and desktops should only have Home Premium although you might find Professional or Ultimate in some offerings. For a vendor to put Starter on a regular PC is just asking for trouble because of the 3 app limit. Home Basic is only for emerging markets and Enterprise is only for volume license customers I believe. So really, the consumer should only see Starter on netbooks and Home Premium on everything else. Oh and the number of Windows 7 versions is 6 not 5. Oh wait, that doesn't help my argument does it? ;)
pthurrott
on Mar 31, 2009
So, obviously I agree there are way too many versions. That said, Ken is correct: Few people will ever deal with more than two choices. So this is sort of a non-event, really.
Saucy
on Mar 31, 2009
The Home Basic and Starter names are not reversed. Starter is still the '3 apps only' version and 'Basic' is still the basic fully working version.
Saucy
on Mar 31, 2009
The Home Basic and Starter names are not reversed. Starter is still the '3 apps only' version and 'Basic' is still the basic fully working version.
kenmcnamee
on Mar 31, 2009
Saucy: They are reversed in the sense that Vista Starter used to be the emerging markets version and Vista Home Basic was the low end consumer version. With Windows 7, Home Basic is for emerging markets only and Starter is the low end version, albeit just for netbooks. So it is the target market that is reversed, not the functionality that each version offers.
Waethorn
on Mar 31, 2009
paul: xp home isn't available in the channel anymore - only royalty/direct oems can still get it. at least not thru canadian authorized distributors. xp home was cut from most canadian price lists shortly after xp sp2c. xp pro is on waiting list status and has been since last summer. as a system builder, i don't have to include installation media for downgrades since microsoft isn't offering it. i have a single copy of xp pro sp2 in my shop to use for downgrades. only a few customers needed it, and one of those paid for a separate license to virtualize it for a windows 95 app that's not compatible with vista. they still wanted to go ahead with vista deployment otherwise, and they wish they could use it exclusively. they only did that on one pc out of 10 because only one user needed access to that legacy app. depending on what hardware comes out in the near future, and how current technology improves, i'll have some tough decisions on how to test user experiences with different os combinations with the hardware. right now, the industry is making a lot of compromises in hardware performance. i blame the push to web computing. the transition isn't happening smoothly enough, and there are very literally too many speedbumps to overcome. the market is changing, but there's a lack of direction.
Waethorn
on Mar 31, 2009
oem's != "oem's" xp home is fairly cheap for big builders, but they have to pay out of their pocket for r&d for preinstallation procedures, duplicating media, and printing their own documentation. they also have minimum monthly order commitments. some manufacturers purchase licenses on a royalty-based contract. system builders were paying about $109cdn cost when it still sold. all the work is already done in producing a bundled software package that the user can use to reinstall it. different costs for different business models.
bettieblu
on Mar 31, 2009
gorath
on Mar 31, 2009
betie! that tower you linked to (in particular) is devestatingly expensive! I nearly spat my coffe out when i saw that! To think that for roughly $100 more I built myself a quad core, with a 4-disk RAID and a geforce 8800!
Waethorn
on Mar 31, 2009
quick suggestion: microsoft should do a new anti-apple ad where someone gets to buy a quad-core desktop for under $1200.
Saucy
on Apr 1, 2009
Ok, thnx.

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