Apple forced to drop iPhone ad in the UK

So I got a bunch of email about this this morning, and it’s certainly noteworthy. I’m an iPhone user and I have to say, I really love the device despite some obvious flaws, but it’s also about a million times better than the competition, so it’s unclear what my problem is. Anyway, in usual Apple fashion, the company has exaggerated its product’s capabilities. But this time, finally, someone called them on it.

An Apple iPhone advert has been banned by the advertising standards watchdog for exaggerating the phone's speed.

The advert boasted the new 3G model was "really fast" and showed it loading internet pages in under a second.

The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) upheld complaints by 17 people who said the TV advert had misled them as to its speed.

Apple UK said it was comparing the 3G model with its 2G predecessor and its claims were "relative not absolute".

The advert repeatedly stated that the phone was "really fast" and showed news pages and the Google maps service taking just fractions of a second to appear.

Text on the screen said: "Network performance will vary by location."

After upholding the viewers' complaints, the ASA said the advert must not appear again in the same form.

It said the advert was likely to lead viewers to believe that the device actually operated at or near to the speeds shown in the advert.

The watchdog concluded: "Because we understood that it did not, we concluded that the ad was likely to mislead."

Bravo.

And before any of you Apple noobs complains, I’ll just point out this video, which, in my own extensive experience, is exactly what using an iPhone is really like. And is thus why this ad is truly deceptive.

Thanks to everyone who wrote in about this.

Discuss this Article 95

Ocean
on Nov 26, 2008
Pogue and Mossberg are the choice of millions...otherwise they'd lose their audience and their bosses would set them out on the street.
Ocean
on Nov 26, 2008
>>I think that he mentioned the iPhone more than the Storm in his "review".<< If it's supposed to be a iPhone killer, then thats the standard it will be measured by.
chuckb84
on Nov 26, 2008
"Chuck, it's funny you call the "non-bizarro world" and bring up Pogue as being a part of that. That is, well, bizarre. Pogue and Mossy have given up all credibility at reviewing non-Apple products a long time ago." Like it or not, the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal have a certain credibility in most of the world! Sorry to say, but compared to this D-list blog, that is just the truth. Aside from the usual "attack the messenger", do any of you deep thinkers have a REBUTTAL? Pogue has used both, he checked with many others about the Storm and came to conclusions. If you've used both and care to retort; I've only used the iPhone so I'll listen respectfully to anyone with experience with both gadgets. Feel free to do a point-by-point comparison, once you can stop the navel gazing on the "big story" about the Apple iPhone ad in the UK.
shark47
on Nov 26, 2008
"That's not really quite fair, they've also given up all credibility at reviewing Apple products a long time ago, too." Oh, come on. Goatberg and Pogue are probably the least biased Mac fanatics out there.
gorath
on Nov 26, 2008
Nah, much better than "yes prime minister" is Red Dwarf, or Monty python, or Fawlty Towers. Or scrapheap challenge!
tayme
on Nov 26, 2008
@chuckb84 - "Like it or not, the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal have a certain credibility in most of the world!" Maybe when it comes to world and financial news. When it comes to the technology reporting, they lack credibility and are known to be very inaccurate. --tayme
Ocean
on Nov 26, 2008
>>Maybe when it comes to world and financial news. When it comes to the technology reporting, they lack credibility and are known to be very inaccurate.<< Only among the tech elite. And the tech elite look down their noses at everyone... :)
Waethorn
on Nov 26, 2008
"Then only chicks I've met who dig English accents have been american. and most (not all) american women I've met speak in an accent that annoys the hell outta me." At least it's not a Manchester accent.... or is it? :P
Waethorn
on Nov 26, 2008
@gorath: I liked Harry Enfield.
Dipsh t Admin
on Nov 26, 2008
The Wall Street Journal certainly has tons of credibility, that is undeniable. The New York Times? Not as much. I'd use the NYT as a bird cage lining or to leave on the kitchen floor for a dog I was leaving alone for a while. Certainly not to read. Chuck, we can shoot the messenger when that said messenger is in the tank or wrong. You wouldn't ask Amy Winehouse about health issues, and you don't ask Pogue or Mossgerg about non-Apple issues. Simple as that. Even though the product is squarely aimed at the iPhone, RIM or Verizon have not mentioned as much. Mentioning the iPhone ad-nausea in their reviews certainly doesn't give them the credibility of their respective news organizations.
Ocean
on Nov 26, 2008
>you don't ask Pogue or Mossgerg about non-Apple issues.<< Boy that's an attack on their journalistic chops. I've noticed a tendency on this board...when someone criticizes MS...
shark47
on Nov 26, 2008
"... you don't ask Pogue or Mossgerg about non-Apple issues." I agree.
tayme
on Nov 26, 2008
On a side note...to all of the US Americans reading...Happy Thanksgiving!!! To the others...have a great day tomorrow, wherever you call home! --tayme
robertsjoe
on Nov 26, 2008
This is old news. Some of the same ads now have a disclaimer at the bottom, basically saying this is not the actual speed. Of course to fit in the 30 second ad format.
robertsjoe
on Nov 26, 2008
@mikegalos: Don't forget to mention that Microsoft has lied in ads as well.
LC21
on Nov 26, 2008
As "deception" is Thurott's new favorite word, equal time demands some examination of the Vista Ready/Capable lawsuit being played out. Haven't seen that here. I'm shocked, shocked. HP was deceived by and lied to by MS in the real world, and it cost them a lot of money, and perhaps jobs. Serious stuff. Apple exaggerates. Every company does; unbelievable the MS sycophants lurking here are just finding that out.
shark47
on Nov 26, 2008
"@mikegalos: Don't forget to mention that Microsoft has lied in ads as well." But mommy, he did it too.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 26, 2008
Since the evening crew has started showing up to do their "Microsoft Sux, Apple Rulz" thing, I figure I'll repost this since I doubt they bother actually reading before sharing their "insights"... btw: So far excuses 2 and 3 have been the most popular but all 3 have made appearances so try not to be redundant or, if you must, say something like "Excuse 2 and 3!!!" -------------------- Yep, we're seeing the usual defenses of the indefensible: Apple defense 1: iPhone is perfect so it's OK to lie because people will be happy they were lied to (the conquistador "It's OK if will kill them since they'll die Christian" defense) Apple defense 2: MicrosoftIsEvilMicrosoftIsEvilMicrosoftIsEvilMicrosoftIsEvil (the change the conversation to anybody else defense) Apple defense 3: You're being mean, everybody does it. Stop picking on me. (the 3rd grader defense)
Waethorn
on Nov 26, 2008
"Goatberg and Pogue are probably the least biased Mac fanatics out there." NAAAAAAAH! ;) That's not saying much. ....or is that sarcasm? I just don't know.
Ocean
on Nov 26, 2008
No one will touch it: >>equal time demands some examination of the Vista Ready/Capable lawsuit<<
tayme
on Nov 26, 2008
@mikegalos - Now that was just plain childish. You really should get a life other than hanging on Paul's site waiting to "protect and serve". You still have not pointed to examples of those 3 defences that you mention. Remember, I am not an Apple or Microsoft fan...just tired of the extremism that has taken over most things in the world...mikegalos is as extreme on the MSFT side as robertsjoe, ocean, and the others combined are on the AAPL side. --tayme
RunTimeError
on Nov 26, 2008
Mike, you really need to get out more. Seriously dude.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 26, 2008
Dipsh "You wouldn't ask Amy Winehouse about health issues, and you don't ask Pogue or Mossgerg about non-Apple issues." The difference is that Amy Winehouse doesn't claim in public that she's an expert columnist in health issues. Unfortunately for their papers' credibility, Pogue and Mossberg claim to write general technology columns despite both effectively writing Apple FanZines. Of course, it could be worse and actually is. Joe Wilcox, the pro-Apple cheerleader who writes Apple Watch for Ziff Davis, now also writes their theoretically parallel Microsoft Watch blog. That's about as parallel as getting Ann Coulter to write "Republican Watch" and "Democrat Watch".
robertsjoe
on Nov 26, 2008
@shark47: "But mommy, he did it too." Don't be such a child. He does bring it up more often than models at a lunch. But never mentions the reverse. That's what known as hypocrisy. Go look it up. Oh no, there's no built-in dictionary in Windows. Go buy Word, which edition, don't know - there are about 8. Then look it up.
Waethorn
on Nov 26, 2008
"No one will touch it: >>equal time demands some examination of the Vista Ready/Capable lawsuit<<" Touch this: http://news.zdnet.com/2424-9595_22-251586.html http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=368&tag=rbxccnbzd1
DRWAM
on Nov 26, 2008
I like the iPhone and don't find it 'flawed' as it works fine for me. I don't think that Leopard is 'buggy' as it works fine for me too. But the norm in the world of advertising is disclaimer. And pardon my Op-Ed, but I think that the iPhone ads fail to give a proper disclaimer that the demonstrated ad speeds are not actual. There is the disclaimer that speeds may vary in certain areas, but in fact, do not even get close to what is shown in the commercial. I strongly agree with Paul about this and I have actually mention it to my wife that I felt that Apple may get sued because of the lack of a satisfactory disclaimer. Potential buyers can easily get the wrong idea and that' what this claim is about. I actually see quite a bit of disclaimers in commercials of other phones, although I feel that simulating the screen picture or video can also be misleading if the model does not function the exact same way. Paul rightfully posted this tp prove his point of such behavior and we Apple fans lost this one, proven by the ASA in the UK. This is just like our argument that Apple does not have a monopoly with it's OS because of the recent Psystar events. [which is a ridiculous thought as then all proprietary software could be considered a monopoly. Duh!]
shark47
on Nov 26, 2008
"Don't be such a child. He does bring it up more often than models at a lunch. But never mentions the reverse. That's what known as hypocrisy. Go look it up. Oh no, there's no built-in dictionary in Windows. Go buy Word, which edition, don't know - there are about 8. Then look it up." Waaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. I want my mommy. Mike's bullying me. Waaaaaaaaaaaah.
tayme
on Nov 26, 2008
@robertsjoe - "He does bring it up more often than models at a lunch. But never mentions the reverse." Much like you and you anti MSFT crap. You are an obvious and extreme AAPL lover/MSFT hater. I am not sure what these companies ever did to any of you guys to cause such hatred. --tayme
Waethorn
on Nov 26, 2008
"I am not sure what these companies ever did to any of you guys to cause such hatred." I like to act as a consumer advocate. I dislike Apple's false advertising, their inflated prices, and their buggy hardware and software. I've seen too many people burned by them to just give them a pass on it all. If I benefit from their stupidity to not appease their customers, then so be it - I'm all for it. I've gained many new customers because of bad experiences people have had with them. If that rubs you the wrong way, too f*in' bad. You're not the boss of me. >:p
tayme
on Nov 26, 2008
@Waethorn - I was reading your post and respecting your opinion...and then those last 2 sentences...oh well. I am curious what you find buggy about the hardware and software. I have not found my MBP or iMac to be any more buggy than an HP running Vista. As far as the price...it is only inflated if the majority of people that would actually buy it, does not because of the price. Free market, remember? Yeah, DRWAM and my sister got a great laptop for under $400 in that Acer...but that is what they were shopping for. I do agree with you on the false advertising, it seems common in most industries now...and they are an arrogant company...but that is widely known. You refuse to give AAPL any credit for anything...in the same way that robertsjoe refuses to give MSFT credit for anything...and you are both wrong. Both companies have and continue to add value and innovation to the computer industry. --tayme
DRWAM
on Nov 26, 2008
But surprisingly, Apple has the most satisfied customer base, according to numerous survey's. I have heard more Gateway and Dell complaints than Apple, but that's what I guess I should statistically expect, since they sell more computers. Yesterday, one doc had numerous complaints about his daughter's MacBook, but the same guy had even more complaints about Dell in the past. You can't please everyone and some people will just hate a brand. If Apple was my competition, I'd probably dislike them as well. Also yesterday, another doc could praise his MacBook Pro enough. Wae. do you sometimes repair Macs? Just wondering.
subzerohitman721
on Nov 26, 2008
@gorath, At least you guys have some of the most entertaining television shows coming out of the BBC. Doctor Who, Torchwood, Hotel Babylon, Eddie Izzard, and plenty of stuff that we get here with BBC America. My brother and I make it part of our television watching either by DVR or actual broadcast. Damn good stuff. Something to be very proud of. Peace.
DRWAM
on Nov 26, 2008
No doctor Who until 2010 I think.
robertsjoe
on Nov 26, 2008
@waethorn: If you think that there are dissatisfied Apple customers, then number is amplified enormously with Microsoft. Most people I know hate their software with a passion. But they are stuck because they are paying the Microsoft tax.
DRWAM
on Nov 26, 2008
Statistically Robertsjoe, no one can honestly deny that there are more dissatisfied Windows users or that they got burned by MS or partners more since they outnumber Macs something like 30 to one. Here's what a true gentleman would do. In 200 I started doing PET via mobile company. In 2003, a competitor bought a permanent PET unit and and advertised that they were the first in the area. I then bought the same unit, but they advertised that you would need to travel to another state to get a study from an equal scanner, but my scanner was newer and more updated. They were lying, period, end, and getting a ton of business. At first I wanted to crush their heads [and I can, trust me], but then, I realized that the better way to be is to be a better person and not attack them. My approach was to treat patients and referring doctors better and give better, quality service. Since then, I was voted Top Doc in the area and now have a PET practice as big as theirs, although I entered the permanent business almost 20 months later. . This is a true story. They have since taken the claim off their website, BTW.
tayme
on Nov 26, 2008
Wow, DRWAM...you have been practicing for 1,803 years. Impressive. No wonder you work out so much. ;-) --tayme
tayme
on Nov 26, 2008
ORr rather 1,808 years... --tayme
Ocean
on Nov 26, 2008
>>Pogue and Mossberg claim to write general technology columns despite both effectively writing Apple FanZines.<< Pogues last 12 weeks are on the right hand side of the page : A projector, a digital camera, a video camera, Zune, a charger, tech tips...headphones...but *no reviews of Apple products*. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/david_pogue... Mike and Paul are more OS fanatics than he is...and Mike again proves he doesn't know what he's talking about.
shark47
on Nov 26, 2008
"ORr rather 1,808 years..." :-) I guess you can count after all. ;) OT: I hope the hostage situation in Mumbai is resolved soon. This is very, very sad, indeed.
robertsjoe
on Nov 26, 2008
@ocean: "Mike and Paul are more OS fanatics than he is...and Mike again proves he doesn't know what he's talking about." Exactly! There are way too many anti-Apple posts on the old Supersite for Windows. Shows bias.
DRWAM
on Nov 26, 2008
I pledged the oath straight from Hippocrates. PS. may God or someone help them Shark.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 26, 2008
" In 200 I started doing PET via mobile company." When DRWAM started, a CAT scan involved putting an actual cat on the patient.
Killsocket
on Nov 26, 2008
I wouldn't worry too much... I bought a computer because the sticker (read: ad) on a PC said it was Vista Capable. What a dupe I am. They all do it, and Apple is no exception, and being a "Windows" site I shouldn't be surprised, but boy you guys just HATE Apple! I've been reading these blogs and posts for awhile now and every little bit of negative Apple news gets full time coverage. Jobs could be reported as having a juicy fart leaving a skid mark in his drawers and Paul would be all over it complaining the man is an adult so how could Apple let that happen and Ballmer could relieve himself in his pants, but thats ok because they are working on Windows Se7en for that 2009, err, 2010 release date. Of course the Apple people are going to defend what they love, what do you really expect? http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/310004_msftsued03.html The Vista Capable fiasco (yes that was just as crooked) is sort of like the iPhone not running as fast as their ad says. It is deceptive advertising on Apple's part too, I know there is no way that it can download that fast, and most people in the market know that as well, but that don't make it right. It is right that Apple got called on it, But, cereal commercials use glue (or stuff that is not milk) to make cereal look good, is that deceptive? But what I love the most is the entertainment factor of these blog posts, I don't even read the Windows blogs because everyone pats MSFT on the back, only there are 7 posts doing so with three being Galos referencing obscure MSFT lingo ;), An Apple post? nearly 100, if not more every single time.
Waethorn
on Nov 27, 2008
"Wae. do you sometimes repair Macs?" Nope. Apple refuses to let resellers (of which I am not, due to their ludicrous MOQ restrictions) do it. They only want "geniuses" [sic] to touch their machines. These kids are just Best Buy rejects. They also don't offer replacement parts outside of Apple repair centers - not even in Apple stores either. By the way, I did give Apple credit for stuff. Unfortunately, everything coming out of Cupertino ended up being a flop. Pink, Copland, and Tesseract come to mind. "Pogues last 12 weeks are on the right hand side of the page : A projector, a digital camera, a video camera, Zune, a charger, tech tips...headphones...but *no reviews of Apple products*." Of course not. Everyone knows he's going to get a stock raise [sic] from anything Jobs puts out [sic].
DRWAM
on Nov 27, 2008
I was just wondering as the 3 local computer repair guys will fix Macs. In fact, many small repair places have signs or ads that show 'We fix Macs too!' or something to the effect. When out of warranty, I would rather bring a broken Mac in to them. but I never had a broken one and can typically fix everything any way. Parts could be a problem, but then there's EBAY. One of the older docs got charged at least $100/hr for a house call. That's when I convinced him to retire his Windows ME box for XP. He then bought a Vista box, which was my first experience to set up Vista [Dell Dimension 430]. I've posted here about how easy it was to set up wireless LAN and Network printer since it was all automatic and done instantly. But then again all computers seem to like me. Now where can I buy a Stepford housewife?

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