As Expected, Security Software Makers Mock Microsoft's Free AV

You had to see this one coming. They did it when Microsoft shipped Windows Live OneCare and then raced to create their own me-too products. But what will Symantec and McAfee do now that Microsoft is providing Windows users with free AV? Whine, of course. IDG News reports:

"Security Essentials won't change anything," said Jens Meggers, Symantec's vice president of engineering. "Microsoft has a really bad track record in security," he added, ticking off several ventures into consumer security that the giant has tried, including Windows Defender, an anti-spyware tool bundled with Windows Vista and Windows 7; the released-monthly Malicious Software Removal Tool; and OneCare.

I'd remind people that Symantec still sells its OneCare rip-off, Norton 360, right next to its normal Norton AV and Norton Internet Security suites. You know, it's the same. But different.

In a company blog, another Symantec employee called Security Essentials a "rerun" of OneCare, and said: "At the end of the day, Microsoft Security Essentials is a rerun no one should watch."

Ah boy. I wonder if that guy works on Norton 360.

I think Microsoft Security Essentials is excellent, but then I also exercise common sense online. From what I can tell, that's the best defense.

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robertsjoe
on Sep 30, 2009
And what's your point? If any at all? You do the same thing. You mock Apple and Google and others. It's your job. So you're a hypocrite when you get on your high horse and say, "oh you had to see that one coming". People see you coming from miles away when you do the same thing.
NoNameAtAll
on Sep 30, 2009
"And what's your point? If any at all? You do the same thing. You mock Apple and Google and others. It's your job. So you're a hypocrite when you get on your high horse and say, "oh you had to see that one coming". People see you coming from miles away when you do the same thing." Why so hostile, Mr. Robertsjoe? Honestly, Microsoft or not, I found this to be pretty predictable. Also, don't say I'm mocking Apple or Google or whomever. I'm not on any side, really.
Phugger
on Sep 30, 2009
I was a dyed in the wool NAV fan ever since it came out. After Peter sold the company it got so bloated and slow I was desperate for an alternative. I jumped into OneCare as soon as it was offered. It was $19 at Amazon and I was able to run it on 3 machines. Never had a problem or infection since it was installed. SE is a no-brainer for me. Come to think of it, none of the 5-6 PCs in our home have had any sort of infection since they were passed around on floppy disks. Maybe I'm really smart or maybe PC security is easier than some would have you believe. If SE can get bundled with new PCs I think we'll see a major decline in infected machines. What good is a solution that only works for a year?
johnbaxter
on Sep 30, 2009
I think I have to dig into the configuration of the instance of MSE running on Win 7 RC on my MacBook under Bootcamp. The full scan I triggered this afternoon really was "full". It included E:, the Mac OS X partitiion. MSE thinks it found Trojan: BAT/FormatCV (or ... C.v per some web references). On the Mac partition, in two of the .strings files in OfficeConverterSupport. Unfortunately, while I left the window up to read the new comments here, MSE decided I must have meant to "Clean Computer" since I hadn't clicked anything. I'll look for a setting about that, too. And restore the files. Off to tell that instance of MSE to lay off the E: drive. And deal with the what to do about it settings, if possible. Meanwhile, don't leave a red report window open in MSE with stock settings while you think about the report. Does the above mean I'll rush out and replace MSE? No, not at all.
johnbaxter
on Sep 30, 2009
Hmmm. It appears that MSE's detection of problems with the Office XML Converter strings files was righteous (given that it was poking around in the Mac partition at all). The files on the laptop are quite different in content than the files on my iMac, and contain somewhat alarming strings such as "You have been infected by the Alliance". On the iMac the file from which that came is lacking all strings--it's just a sort of shell. What I have on the laptop is a beta copy--this string resource file likely contains test strings for the converter. The converter on the laptop is a Beta version. The converter on the iMac seems to have been removed (and was never Beta). Because I have Office 2008 (up to date), I don't think I need the converter anyhow. So instead of restoring, I'll do some removing. Fascinating adventure.

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