As promised, Windows Vista (and Server 2008) SP2 ships in May

From your link above.... "Service Pack 1 is a prerequisite for installing Service Pack 2". So if you rebuild a PC with Vista or you are sitting with Vista (32bit) with out SP1 you are looking at a cool GIG of downloads to get up to SP2, since SP1 was over 700meg. So much for SP's being cumulative????. Are there some good benchmarks showing Vista SP2 vs Windows 7 RC? I mean with over 1GIG of updates since it came out it should be very near Windows 7. Does SP2 include the new firewall that 7 has? That new firewall is very nice for creating exceptions.

Lindy The real question is why anybody supposedly tech-savvy enough to post on a Windows comment board would not have installed SP1 after 14 Months of general availability, admit it and expect even the slightest credibility ever again!

From reading Lindy's posts, I don't think she is very tech savvy. Her comments are in line with her intelligence level.

Well I dont run Vista except in a VM to test it. I have SP1 installed on that VM. No I would not install a SP manually in a corporate enviroment unless I was building a template for VMware and even then I would probably just use whatever patching system is in place, WSUS, SCCM, Shavlik, Alieta etc. Your missing my point, if someone was to rebuild a computer they cant install just SP2, they need SP1, unless they have media that has been slipstreamed with SP2 by MS that is. To my knowledge this is the first SP for a MS OS that is not cumulative. Why the change? Is it because 2008 shipped with SP1 included as its base code and so they dont want to make Vista SP2 that will patch a non-SP'ed Vista? Hamilton is angry little boy because I said no to his advances.

@Lindy, Disgusting.

"I think SP2 is not cumulative because SP1 updates the kernal of VIsta first." ....and the entire servicing stack.

Can anyone get the 64-bit edition? The link above keeps bumping me back to the 32-bit edition.

Like I said, Lindy's comments are right in line with her intelligence level: pre-school. Good luck convincing people you aren't a closet Microsoft lover. Can't seem to get enough of the Windows Supersite? LOL. I just upgraded to SP2. Took about 12 or so minutes to download and install. Works perfect!

DarkSages, where can I download the ISOs with SP2 already integrated? All I can find is basically links to getting the service pack itself. Cheers.

"Paul, your site is turning into the laughing stock of the tech sites...sad." What does that even mean? Since when has a comment section / forums not been almost completely filled with arguments. How far underground do you live.

@wattsvilleblues Good question for some reason they took off the link for download iso sp1 from the windowsvista.com and they have not added sp2. I hope they do it that was the point of vista to be able to download it and try it before buying. For now I guess technet or msdn is the only option or a torrent

Nope, it's true.... saw today on Paul Thurrott's site that As promised, Windows Vista (and Server 2008) SP2 ships in...

You are funny Wae, I dont care how Windows update installs SP3 on XP. That Microsoft website says that you can install it on XP with no SP's. You said it needed SP1. No I did not forget. Windows 2003 (non-R2) shipped on a single CD. After SP1 came out, Windows 2003 R2 came out and it shipped on 2-CD's. The second CD were the R2 tools. Since it came out after SP1, SP1 was slipped streamed into 2003 R2 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx Why does Windows Server 2003 R2 require two CDs for installation? A. Windows Server 2003 with SP1—a requirement for Windows Server 2003 R2—is on CD 1. CD 2 includes the Windows Server 2003 R2 features

Wait, you guys are actually girls?! If that's true, I hope that I minded my manners. I waited to DL until it was on Win update. OT. The kids are searching with Google and DL'ed a Trojan on my filly updated XP SP3 box. The funny thing was that free Avast found it in the temp folder and deleted it before it caused any harm. Pretty dang cool! I ran it and found nothing else. We're on auto pilot now and I'm happy, since I can't stop the kids from accidentally surfing in the wrong places. [I have OneCare on my two Vista boxes and was saving the last license in case I was buying another laptop].

SP2 automatically installed SP1, by the way.

"SP2 automatically installed SP1, by the way." That's XP.

"Like I said, Lindy's comments are right in line with her intelligence level: pre-school." But, what exactly was wrong with lindy's first comment? It was very reasonable.

@sharky - "But, what exactly was wrong with lindy's first comment? It was very reasonable. " It was only wrong to mikegalos, because he seems to thinks that if somebody asks a simple question about Microsoft, then they are blaspheming and if anybody dares to not immediately upgrade when it does not make sense for them or their company then they are wronging Microsoft in some way. Its actually fun to watch mikegalos be foolish! --tayme

See, I can be just as foolish and put words and make innuendos about the others here as well as any of you. --tayme

>Steady State removes Docs as well. You should be able to allow access to a USB drive so that she could store documents there.

Thanks Whip, I will check it out. I was very impressed that it was promptly detected and removed from XP. This shows that these more modern protective apps work, and decreases my fear. Vista and Win 7 are even more secure, so my point is that we have less to fear these days. Believe me, some of the ads from HP and other security app companies are a zillion times worse than any Apple ad. I've psoted about them in the past, especially one particular HP security app/feature ad that was used many times on the radio about how fast malware will take down your entire company, in their attempt to sell it to you.

Installed it, it went fine I don't notice much of anything maybe slightly faster. @DRWAM Fear sells! I trade off between Avast and Avira for my free AV's I use NOD32 and the new Norton AV on machines I have chosen to get paid protection. Last time we got a serious infection on my kids machine she allowed it to install, it was called PC-Antispyware and it was tough to get rid of. I later found Malwarebytes (also free) which works very well and supposedly gets rid of the fake anti-virus apps. My brother who was still using Adaware paid version got infected, Adaware support remotely logged on to his PC and used Malwarebytes to clean it.

Routers have come a long time in the last few years it's amazing how much they've changed.