Highlighting the woman behind the Windows 7 user experience

The AP writes about Julie Larson-Green, Microsoft's head of the Windows Experience and the person most directly responsible for the UI changes in Windows 7:

"We want to reduce the amount of thinking about the software that they have to do, so that they can concentrate all their thinking on the task they're trying to get done," Larson-Green said in an interview.

You probably don't know her name, but if you're using Office 2007, the sleeper hit of the Vista era, you're already familiar with Larson-Green's work. She was the one who banished the familiar system of menus on Word, Excel and other programs in favor of a new "ribbon" that shows different options at different times, depending on what a user is working on. It seemed risky, but it was grounded in mountains of data showing how people used the software.

"The primary things that help you create a good user experience are empathy, and being able to put yourself in the place of people who are using the products," she said. "User interface is customer service for the computer."

Larson-Green's team began with centralized planning, in contrast with the old culture that let Windows subgroups set their own agendas. For example, in the past, different groups worked on home networking. One group decided how Windows would share files among multiple computers at home; another group figured out how to get shared printers up and running. As a result, the steps for networking PCs and printers were inconsistent -- and harder for PC users to master.

As she did with Office, Larson-Green sought insights in a daunting mass of data.

Vista was the first version of Windows to include the remote-tracking software that had helped Microsoft hone Office, and nearly 11 million Vista users had let their PC activities be logged. Larson-Green's team also surveyed more than 250,000 people around the world and showed other users prototypes, some as simple as sketches on paper.

And thus they stake their claim to how the Windows 7 user experience was heavily tested before the Beta began. Interesting.

From these billions of data points emerged big ideas that got boiled down into eight design principles.

Many of the principles come back to Larson-Green mantras of "user in control." The team tried to build an operating system people could use without studying first, one that would let them get right to reading the news or sending e-mail without dragging them down a rabbit hole of settings and configurations. A system with manners, not one that constantly interrupts with bubbles, boxes and warnings that, data showed, people ignored or raced to close.

The Windows groups agreed in principle but old habits often reared up. Many Windows teams still wanted to be able to create alert bubbles for their functions.

"We've probably talked to every team in Windows about, 'No no no no, we don't want you to pop your notifications. Windows is not going to use these notifications to tell users things,'" said Linda Averett, a Windows user experience manager.

Larson-Green is already planning Windows 8, though her team continues to tweak the Windows 7 user interface. Signs point to a possible release months ahead of schedule.

"I think people are going to like it," she said. Her voice rose a few notes when she added, "I hope so."

Oh, they're going to love it. But given the discussions we've had here already, it's clear that they'll be plenty to do for Windows 8 as well. :)

Discuss this Article 57

slimshadey
on Apr 20, 2009
"She was the one who banished the familiar system of menus on Word, Excel and other programs in favor of a new "ribbon" that shows different options at different times, depending on what a user is working on. It seemed risky, but it was grounded in mountains of data showing how people used the software." We have basically 2 major complaints about 2007 after moving to it at our company. 1. "Where the F is everything and can I have my old menus back???" In conjuction with "What do you mean the old menus are not an option?" 2. Why is Office 2007 so slow. Hopefully the mountains of new data will help them.
chipwinter
on Apr 20, 2009
I'm hoping that Larson-Green's goal of wanting to "reduce the amount of thinking about the software that they have to do" will also reduce users' need for tech support. Seeing all the headlines this weekend about Apple's support being good while PC support being bad is not the type of news Microsoft needs right now.
shark47
on Apr 20, 2009
"2. Why is Office 2007 so slow." Because someone in IT didn't test it properly with the existing hardware?
slimshadey
on Apr 20, 2009
Tested, speed noted to be generally slower than Office 2003 but acceptable.
aemarques
on Apr 20, 2009
@ chipwinter - you are comparing two different situations (although I admit that for most people, MS is to blame for everything): Apple support is support for the complete package (machine+OS); "PC support" is provided for the OEM and it is much more tricky. Microsoft, for the most part, does not do "PC Support"...
techfan
on Apr 20, 2009
I read this story on a Google-hosted page and liked it. And I really like what Julie Larson-Green did when the ribbon in Office 2007.
chipwinter
on Apr 20, 2009
@aemarques - I can certainly see the distinction, but when Microsoft's commercials highlight "I'm a PC" and the headlines read "PC support rates poorly" I'm not sure the majority of users aren't going to translate that into a Microsoft problem.
bond07
on Apr 20, 2009
"Tested, speed noted to be generally slower than Office 2003 but acceptable" Here is where the IT person failed. "acceptable" is an attribute that depends on the work done by each particular person, not what the guy testing the software finds acceptable. If people complained about speed, then it shows that the IT person used "logic" rather than real-people data, which is what MS is trying not to do.
shark47
on Apr 20, 2009
"Tested, speed noted to be generally slower than Office 2003 but acceptable." Oh, OK. Just curious. I like Word, PPT, and Outlook 2007 quite a bit. I hate Excel. I find Excel charts and pivot tables way too confusing now.
Master3
on Apr 20, 2009
@chipwinter Seriously, you are just looking for an OS flame war, so knock it off, ok?
slimshadey
on Apr 20, 2009
I personally like O2K7 better. Its more the the modern look and the 3D features in PPT that I like. It is a tad slower but I have a power machine I use it on. Outlook is more procutive with sharepoint allowing me to sync document lists now, but I am one of just a few that use that feature at my place of work. Looking at it purely from a ROI perspective, I could not justify the cost, in terms of loss productivity during the transistion period and increase in support calls. It did not "solve a problem", as there were none with 2003. I think the people that support the desktop side of things pushed it because they could.
sohaniabhishek
on Apr 20, 2009
@Shark "I find Excel charts and pivot tables way too confusing now" I worked quite a lot to define pivot table templates before office 2007 and with office 2007 and i found them to be very well thought of in office 2007. It actually does most of the work and you just need to drag and drop various columns.. its really amazing.... ofcourse when i did it first time, i was wondering where the F is this and where the F is that.. but later i realized everything was right there and i was just so much used to of digging through things that i did not notice them..
gorath
on Apr 20, 2009
Slimshady, there is something strange about office 2007, as has been discussed here before. For example, on my personal machines, which are modern, vista machines, office 2007 apps appear to launch and run faster, however, on a similar system running XP, it's not quite so nippy. Basically, I've seen a large disparity in Office 2007 performance, from fantastic, to very very bad. I'm still not convinced it has to do with OS choice, but someone else on this forum mentioned it could be a factor. Anyway, for what it's worth, I love the new ribbon UI, and, once people get used to it, they GENERALLY seem to agree. I highlight generally, because there will always be those who don't like something, though, that's a given.
Saucy
on Apr 20, 2009
The new ribbon is a nice change [and a change can be as good as a rest] and I find that I can get as much done or even more.
yipcanjo
on Apr 20, 2009
I was just dealing with a co-worker who was recently migrated to Office 2007, which *most* of our users are on at this point. She was trying to simply "copy" a worksheet, which she couldn't figure out. Her solution? Fire up her old PC instead and just use that (rather than asking someone). When she finally got around to asking for assistance, I was able to find the solution (right-click on the Sheet tab) in about 3 seconds. People amaze me. Anyhow, I've found that the Office Labs "Search Commands" tool is invaluable for helping users migrate to Office 2007. Well... that and "stopping to think for a moment" when looking for something they can't find right away. Just my $.02 :) http://www.officelabs.com/projects/searchcommands/Pages/default.aspx
LuxZg
on Apr 20, 2009
@slimshady - change of Office UI is "investment" that is not tied to just one single generation, unless they decide to completely overhaul it in Office 2010. Ribbons are good. I use more functions in Excel & Access in Office 2007 than I ever used in 2003 and earlier. I can't say if they were already there in earlier Office suites, I trully can't. But while there IS a huge amount of "where the f*** is this function?!" in my company as well, after few months users seem to be satisfied.. Well, or they just stopped complaining :D It's a small company though, so me and a colleague had some time to give them a few tips when needed.. But I really do look at it as an investment in future. Personaly, I really like "new" Office. And I like Windows 7 so far as well. I just hope they won't be making radical changes every 2-3 years, as that would be really counterproductive.
Dipsh t Admin
on Apr 20, 2009
Great tools are available for the transition to 2007 from earlier versions. The search commands feature as yip said is one. You have others available too. Ed Bott highlights them here: http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=2109
Waethorn
on Apr 20, 2009
"Why is Office 2007 so slow" Office 2007 running on Windows Vista makes a world of difference. Of course, SP1 (for both of them) also makes it run that much better too. Re: Apple consumer reports If you read CNN's post about it, they stingingly say that "Apple just 'eeked' by everybody else, but their rating is by no means impressive".
slimshadey
on Apr 20, 2009
"If you read CNN's post about it, they stingingly say that "Apple just 'eeked' by everybody else, but their rating is by no means impressive"." Sh!te storm alert comment. Let the battle rage, ready.....GO!
tayme
on Apr 20, 2009
I guess that chip and Waethorn just won't be happy unless they fight the battle for Steve and Bill. All the while, Steve and Bill are laughing at all of you that won't give it up. Re: the Office 2007 Ribbon UI...It takes some getting used to, but once you learn it, it is much more productive. I don't do desktop support anymore, so I do not know how the users at our company are accepting it. But, you have to keep in mind that there will always be people that resist change; regardless of the complexity of it or the benefits. --tayme
Ocean
on Apr 20, 2009
The new Get a Mac commercials are a hoot.
betsig250
on Apr 20, 2009
The funny thing is I was the same way 2 years ago when I started using Office 07. Now I am completely lost when trying to help people with Office 03 as I am going where the f did it USE to be. Just trying to hide and unhide a sheet in 03 pisses me off now. :) I cannot go back to the old way and especially Pivot Tables are millions of times easier to use and create in the new office.
shark47
on Apr 20, 2009
"I guess that chip and Waethorn just won't be happy unless they fight the battle for Steve and Bill. All the while, Steve and Bill are laughing at all of you that won't give it up." Actually, Steve's busy undergoing treatment for chronic megalomania in a rehab clinic, while Bill is busy fighting malaria in a third world country.
shark47
on Apr 20, 2009
@sohaniabhishek: "I worked quite a lot to define pivot table templates before office 2007 and with office 2007 and i found them to be very well thought of in office 2007. It actually does most of the work and you just need to drag and drop various columns.. " Guess I need to use it a little more. I do find charts in Excel 2007 extremely annoying.
wjglenn141
on Apr 20, 2009
There are things about O2007 I love. PPT alone was worth it. The ribbon is actually pretty good. I'm a heavy Word user and it took a couple of weeks for fluency. It really shines when I introduce it to people who are not that familiar with Office. The only really big complaint I have on it is that they took away the great customization that was built into previous versions. Many publishers are still using 2003 templates because it's so much more difficult to create them in 2007. And I hate having to jump to the add-ins gallery just to use a custom toolbar. Would it really be so hard to give us tools for creating our own gallery or placing commands on the main gallery?
wjglenn141
on Apr 20, 2009
BTW, for those that just can't hack it there is an app named Ribbon Customizer that will let you do some customization and also bring back the 2003 menus and toolbars. Costs about $30. Not affiliated with company, just a recommendation :-)
wjglenn141
on Apr 20, 2009
"I'm a PC" and the headlines read "PC support rates poorly" I'm not sure the majority of users aren't going to translate that into a Microsoft problem." A big problem to be sure. Many of my clients assume that anything going wrong on a PC is a Microsoft problem. They don't factor in OEMs or application vendors. But then, a surprising number of people still get Office and Windows confused or freak out when a desktop icon gets moved. What can you do?
DRWAM
on Apr 20, 2009
Office 2007 is pretty easy to use by my 8 and 7 yr olds. They seem to use clip art pics with a theme of their choice. Then print and add to the pile of collages. The new UI to a little time to get used to, but I like it.
DRWAM
on Apr 20, 2009
Right now, my oldest [she will be 9 in June] is making a 'book' for her twin sisters using Powerpoint in MS Office 2007. My wife can't even do that!
wjglenn141
on Apr 20, 2009
"Right now, my oldest [she will be 9 in June] is making a 'book' for her twin sisters using Powerpoint in MS Office 2007. My wife can't even do that!" Love it. My daughter (also 9) recently came home with a PPT on the rainforest that she did in school. It was awesome. When she brought it home, she said "Look! We packaged it on CD so you don't even need powerpoint to play it"
tayme
on Apr 20, 2009
That's the difference between kids and adults. Kids do not have decades of doing something the same way under their belts, causing them to fear a new and better way of doing things. Watching my daughter grow up being comfortable with computer hardware and software gave me plenty of laughs back in the days that I did desktop support because in many cases she could do more with the basic applications than a lot of users could do with the complex ones. --tayme
Waethorn
on Apr 20, 2009
"Pivot Tables are millions of times easier to use and create in the new office." That was the idea - bring advanced features to the masses. I like the new leaked screenshots of Outlook 2010. I use Outlook a lot, and the new UI looks drool-worthy.
chuckb84
on Apr 20, 2009
"The new Get a Mac commercials are a hoot." Yes, they are. They employ a complex organizational theme that Microsoft has yet to master----humor. The one attempt that Microsoft made along those lines, the Seinfeld/Gates ads was a little funny, but totally disconnected from the product. The Mac ads connect to the product and make telling, easily understood points with humor. Microsoft CAN do humor. I thought the "If Microsoft Made the iPod Packaging" was genuinely funny, and was astonished to see that it was made by Microsoft. An old spot with Gates and Ballmer driving along in a VW was also funny. In the current crop, the best of the bunch are the cute little kids who are PCs. I think the 3% marketshare company has suckered the 95% Gorilla into a tit for tat ad war, and that's always a win for the smaller contender.
robertsjoe
on Apr 20, 2009
Much of the Windows user experience is described in the small print in Apple's latest Get A Mac ad, titled "Legal Copy" http://www.macjournals.com/news/legalcopytext It's funny because it's all true.
cesjr
on Apr 20, 2009
Did Julie get them to take out the Registry? Cuz that thing is WAY past its prime. Honestly, the ribbon in Word 2007 ain't bad, it is an improvement. But the real answer is to have an open file format, so that real innovation can occur. As long as the only "choice" is Office, we'll never have what we could have with a vibrant set of developers competing. Real innovation will never occur with a monopolist.
shark47
on Apr 20, 2009
There ya go. The troll pack is here. Say goodbye to any meaningful discussion.
chuckb84
on Apr 20, 2009
"Honestly, the ribbon in Word 2007 ain't bad, it is an improvement. But the real answer is to have an open file format, so that real innovation can occur. As long as the only "choice" is Office, we'll never have what we could have with a vibrant set of developers competing. Real innovation will never occur with a monopolist." Exactly. This is the whole problem with Microsoft. The company does everything it can to keep people locked into its products through use of proprietary formats and tools. There's a lot of ranting about "choice" on this blog, from Paul and the echo chamber, but they don't really mean it. Choice means getting to not choose Microsoft if you're so inclined, and Microsoft has fought for decades to establish and maintain a monopoly position. The thing about the Apple Tax "white paper"---aside from the fact that it is hilariously inaccurate---is that the real Tax is a Microsoft tax, paid by the whole industry.
robertsjoe
on Apr 20, 2009
@chuck84: "is that the real Tax is a Microsoft tax, paid by the whole industry." Most truthful thing that has been posted on this blog or its comments in about a year. Great stuff, Chuck. The sad thing is, it's pitiful to watch Paul and his follower drones not see that. Steve Ballmer: the blind leading the blind.
gkeramidas
on Apr 20, 2009
i can think of 2 other words that fit the first 2 characters of the ancronym for the fluent user interface(fui)
robertsjoe
on Apr 20, 2009
http://www.newsweek.com/id/194623/output/print Imagine if the soldiers were given Zunes. They'd shoot themselves in the foot to get out of there. That's how bad those things are.
robertsjoe
on Apr 20, 2009
I'm sure the six people that bought a Zune will be looking forward to the Zune HD (Hardly Desirable). Has anyone ever seen one in public? Or are the owners too ashamed to go out in public?
gorath
on Apr 20, 2009
(cough)office 07's format is an open standard. idiots. As for competition. For competition to happen, someone has to first create a competing product that is worthy of competition. People aren't going to switch en-masse to any of the current alternatives. OSX is a viable alternative OS, sure, but there exists no parallell (that I know of) to Office. And cesjr... unless you can not only explain the issues with the current registry, but actually suggest an alternative, then your comment doesn't mean much.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Apr 20, 2009
gorath Yeah. It's so unfair of the Office team. They keep improving their products so that people would rather buy their stuff than use the competition even when they use the same open file format and are available for free. :-)
RobertC
on Apr 21, 2009
Chuck & cesjr, unless you've both been living under a rock for the last five years, you would have noticed that Microsoft's new Open Office XML file type is now an open standard, accessible by others. Lock-in is a non-issue, brought up only by those interested in fanning the flames of a futile, parochial software war. Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with the registry. It is simply a massive database of settings - it does not degrade performance. Once again, your attack is typical of Mac fanatics - uninterested in facts at the best of times.
chuckb84
on Apr 21, 2009
I'm well aware of the Open Office XML file type, as I'm sure you're all aware that nearly everyone continues to use the old .doc file type for backwards compatibility. In addition, there were irregularities in the approval process for the "open" format. Google for it. Many people who are devoted to open file formats feel that Microsoft abused that approval process. But, that's all past history and I'm relieved that you are all for open competition, so why not open up publicly the .doc and .xls file formats, which are still by far the most widely used? Mr Ballmer, tear down that wall. Let the best Office suite win. Of course, this will never happen. (Aside on the registry issue: The problem is that the registry is ONE database. Any issue with one program and you can be off to a full reinstall. I much prefer the multiple "plist" approach on OS X (and similar approaches on linux). Each program creates its own file and if you ever have a problem, nuke that one file and continue on your way. I'm no expert on the registry, but I think this is a fundamental problem.)
shark47
on Apr 21, 2009
"Google for it. Many people who are devoted to open file formats feel that Microsoft abused that approval process." Of course. It's Microsoft, dude. The "people" you're talking about are the IBMs and Suns of the world. Whatever!
mikegalos@msn.com
on Apr 21, 2009
"The "people" you're talking about are the IBMs and Suns of the world." Sun? Sun? The name sounds familiar. Didn't they used to make workstations before they went the way of all the other workstation vendors like Apollo and Silicon Graphics?
RobertC
on Apr 21, 2009
Chuck, why should Ballmer voluntarily donate all of Microsoft's intellectual property? Microsoft has made a commitment to its latest OOXML file formats and that is all that is necessary. The hilarious thing is that several other free and commercial office suites have had reasonably good compatibility with Microsoft Office formats for years but are still bit players in the market. Thus, it is not as if file formats are holding people back - it's more the fact that the competitors are so terribly inferior that they're not worth bothering with.
RobertC
on Apr 21, 2009
"(Aside on the registry issue: The problem is that the registry is ONE database. Any issue with one program and you can be off to a full reinstall. I much prefer the multiple "plist" approach on OS X (and similar approaches on linux). Each program creates its own file and if you ever have a problem, nuke that one file and continue on your way. I'm no expert on the registry, but I think this is a fundamental problem.)" How can you validly criticise the registry by labelling it a "fundamental problem" when, by your own admission, you don't even have a good understanding of how it works? Is this really what passes as debate around here? Registry failures/corruptions are extremely rare instances on modern versions of Windows. The built-in recovery tools in Vista and 7 now make registry problems a thing of the past in 99.9% of cases. Windows is also has a much more modular design, meaning key subsystems are less interdependent and that means fewer and less damaging crashes and higher system stability. But you won't hear Mac fanatics being honest about such things, that's for sure. That said, no operating system can guarantee 100% reliability, yet, I find it grossly irresponsible that Apple commercials claim that Macs are immune to viruses, don't require security patches and don't crash. After all these flat out lies and distortions, the iCabal, with straight faces, shamelessly criticise Microsoft for lying. This is the infantile rubbish that passes for debate day-in, day-out in the Mac world.
DRWAM
on Apr 21, 2009
If you find the rebates, like the Black Friday one, you can often get Office [Win or Mac] for $25 to $50. Even Lauren can afford it. There are free alternatives, so one of us are locked in. As I posted before, it was $25 [from Amazon] after MS rebate for Mac Office 2004 with a free upgrade [$10 shipping] for either the student or Media version. Many of my friends jumped on it, and we all got our rebate. I did not install the upgrade since Exchange works fine with Entourage 2004 which now is xml compatible. I did upgrade to 2007 for Windows and also use Exchange [yes, encouraged by Mike G]. I can't post the praises enough, and it works on the iPhone without spending money on the Blackberry server [tax]. My friends with BB can get email, but not contacts or calendar.

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