iPad: The Morning After

I have to believe that even the most diehard Apple fanatics are feeling a bit disappointed this morning. Indeed, Apple's biggest blunder with the iPad, perhaps, is that the device wasn't available for sale immediately. They could have sold millions on the first day. But now, with customers forced to wait until they can even pre-order the thing, I do believe some semblance of common sense will prevail. That is, many people who would have otherwise just ordered the thing immediately will now likely wait and see what happens.

If you're among that crowd, good for you. Seriously. You've made the right choice.

We are collectively seized by a gadget-of-the-moment mentality right now, both the people in the industry and those who follow along. And as this moment passes, you have to ask yourself: What do I need this thing for? (You also have to ask yourself: Why do I trust people who do nothing more than recommend gadget after gadget to me? Are these expensive devices really useful?)

The answer, of course, is that no one needs the iPad. No one. And that is the problem.

With an iPhone, you can at least make the argument that everyone needs a phone. And it's something you can carry along in your pocket, so it's a no-brainer, assuming you can afford the hefty two-year financial commitment that accompanies any smart phone.

And most people need PCs. No, almost no one needs Macs, but I do get that certain people feel like they're getting a certain level of quality there, absolute. They're nice machines. But regardless of your choice in vendor, PCs are necessary for many.

With the iPad, we're in a weird gray area, that place between smart phones/multi-function portable devices (like the iPod touch) and notebook PCs. And to Apple's discredit, this gray area has been tried before, most successfully (very successfully) with the netbook. But also with a new class of netbook-type machines running smart phone OSes (like Android) called smart books. The iPad is simply Apple's play for this part of the market. They weren't here first, and they don't even appear to offer the most compelling solution.

At least with a netbook, you can make the argument that it's a PC. It doesn't run weird iWork apps, it runs Office. So you could get work done.

There are also tablet-based netbooks. That also run Office. That also run the touch-based Amazon Kindle app, and the New York Times Reader app, which is exactly like The New York Times iPad app that Apple showed off yesterday. Well, there is one difference: It first appeared over three years ago. It's not new.

Hey, these netbooks also run iTunes. So if all you're looking for is a first class way to access Apple's content and you're looking for 10 hours of battery life... yeah, it's already here. And it gets work done too. Win-win, right?

I think there is a weird euphoria that descends over gadget lovers when something like the iPad (or Zune HD, or HTC HD2, or whatever) is announced. But then it fades just as quick.

And while I will get and review an iPad--it's what I do--I just don't feel the same immediacy here that I did with the iPhone. It just isn't a game changer. It's not something I can recommend sight unseen. In fact, I feel curiously uneven about this thing. And suspicious of those who are broadcasting the opposite the loudest. Very suspicious.

What we're left with here is a device that isn't necessary and doesn't really change anything. It's a front-end for Apple's e-commerce engine, and nothing more. And if you were looking for yet another way to spend money on Apple products, well, Steve Jobs has a solution for you. But if you have a bit of common sense, I'd sit back and wait this one out for now. Because there are already better solutions for what this device does. And I'm curious that Apple, for a change, didn't actually raise the bar in any obvious way.

Discuss this Article 97

lotsamystuff
on Jan 28, 2010
No one needs a Kindle either, but Paul practically soils himself with glee every time he talks about it. At $489 for the one-trick-pony Kindle, I'd rather spend the extra ten bucks and get the iPad. I'm just sayin'....
sarnia_surfer
on Jan 28, 2010
Here's what it is not: Small computer Here's what it is: Large iPod Touch
Ocean
on Jan 28, 2010
Another person who used it: "I am a technology professional. For almost 20 years I’ve tested, used, broke, fixed, and played with all kinds of technology from broadcasting to air conditioning to software. I am not easily swayed in these things. But even with all my skepticism, I think the iPad is something different. A new way of computing that will become commonplace. Oh Internets, I know you won’t believe till you hold one in your hands. You’ll bang on about features, data plans, DRM, open source, and a multitude of issues. You’ll storm the message boards, wring your hands, and promise you won’t buy one till ‘Gen 2’. The din will grow and grow as time passes. And then one day, in a few months, you will actually hold one and use it. And you will say, “I want one. Iwant one right now.” So, my sweet beloved Internets, please take a deep breath, relax and stay away from your regular knee-jerk reactions. Have a little patience, a quality you are not known for, my sweet Internets. And please, please stop trying to make predictions about what's next, you have no clue and just look stupid when you do." http://cruftbox.com/blog/archives/001592.html#001592
Ocean
on Jan 28, 2010
I think it will sell if people go see it for themselves and ignore the doubters...I do think people will go see it too. :)
Ocean
on Jan 28, 2010
I like this comment from cruftbox: "if it doesn't do what you want it to - fine - don't buy it. Easy schmeezy. If it costs more for what it does for you - don't buy it. The critical question is, will it do for the average consumer what the average consumer wants it to do, at a price they want to do it at? Probably. While Apple isn't infallible - they have gotten smart over the years, it is possible they have a finger on the pulse of the average consumer. After 40 million iPhones, and a bunch of other stuff - they just might have this right.
Logjamming
on Jan 28, 2010
<> This made me smile!
daveinla
on Jan 28, 2010
Well it seems Paul's classic Anti-Apple rage which had reached unprecedented levels yesterday (you could actually fell the foam and the sweat coming out !!!) came to a normal level again (meaning reasonably negative). Now back to normal adult discussion: * The problem with the device (unlike Netbook, laptop and smartphones) is that not 2 people think the same thing about how a tablet should look like and should do and should be operated ... What we know for sure is that the classic Windows ported on a tablet sucks... No one wants a start menu and cumbersome windows explorer on a tablet, ditto a smartphone !! MS still hasn't understood that. I think Brandan nailed the thing: Apple has a very specific target and doesn't care about the geeks out here who want to run their shells, see what's going on in the internals of their machines... Like all Apple devices, it should be operated by a 3 yr old kid ! Paul still hasn't registered that the PC era is over... People don't care about the OS or the softs anymore !!! People like their laptops (mostly Macbooks) and iPhones because they just run without hassle and allow them to do cloud computing easily with no fuss. My 5 yr old daughter knows how to use my iPhone. My 8 yr old son knows how to use iPhoto or garageband and never bugs me for something that went wrong or he doesn't understand. 98% of the people don't care about the geek stuff underneath. They want a sleek looking device, that works without fuss, annoyances and malware ! Very evocative remarks about Paul's attachment to the PC era: a good tablet should have a keyboard, a start menu; The bookshelf presentation is not professional ????? (WTF ???) and childish !!!!!!! Yeah I imagine a tablet PC on which you have to run the Windows-Explorer (that still looks and feel nowadays like the Win Explorer from Win 95 !!) to browse you book list !! Definitely more professional, but so boring to use, and impossible to operate by a child !!
TEAMSWITCHER
on Jan 28, 2010
I think that it's far too early to declare the iPad a disappointment. I think it's the biggest Game Changing product to come along in many many years. The reason is Price. At the introductory prices $499.00-$829.00, this device is far more affordable than any Windows based tablet - EVER. And it comes with a pre-built eco-system, built on Apple proven touch interface technologies. As developers (and there are a lot of them) start bending these pixels to their will, who knows what cool apps will be created. I also think that a web-cam and a new multi-tasking OS are on the horizon. This is a 1.0 Apple product, an introduction to a new form-factor for mobile computing. If I were Microsoft, or HP, or Asus, or Acer, or Dell I wouldn't listen to the likes of Paul Thurrott, and dismiss this product out-of-hand. I would be worried! And Steve Jobs is absolutely spot-on about net-books - "They are not better at anything!"
jefflessard
on Jan 28, 2010
I am an Apple fanboy and I have to agree with you!
daveinla
on Jan 28, 2010
Netbooks sucks at everything... true !!!
whiplash55
on Jan 28, 2010
@rrode74 Thanks for the info, 16 gigs isn't enough for me but 32 might work.
EricoF3
on Jan 28, 2010
lotsamystuff said: "No one needs a Kindle either, but Paul practically soils himself with glee every time he talks about it. At $489 for the one-trick-pony Kindle, I'd rather spend the extra ten bucks and get the iPad. I'm just sayin'...." I agree!!!
Ocean
on Jan 28, 2010
"98% of the people don't care about the geek stuff underneath. They want a sleek looking device, that works without fuss, annoyances and malware !" This.
EricoF3
on Jan 28, 2010
daveinla said: "Netbooks sucks at everything... true !!!" I agree for sure!! But the problem is really not that the iPad will not be good... It Will be!! But it will not be better than the HP Slate... or the Lenovo bi loptop\tablet which i don't remember the name... or the Dell tablet... or the Microsoft courier tablet... IPad will run all the IPhone application... What a big deal. ... Do you know that a Slate that run Windows 7 will be able run all the application that run on a Windows Laptop or desktop... what a nice feature!!!! I think Apple shot in their feet because they voluntarily create unrealistic expectations... but it is just a tablet computer... So know they'll have to deal with that and they will not be able so... Time will tells...
rr0de74@live.com
on Jan 28, 2010
http://www.inkling.com/ Just the beginning I am sure.
rr0de74@live.com
on Jan 28, 2010
@EricoF3 want to wager on who will sell more, the HP slate or Apple iPad? HP did say it was going to be less than $1500. Not sure they wanted to go as low as $499 but we shall see.
Ocean
on Jan 28, 2010
A developer: "I'm an iPhone developer and I get very excited about this new form factor. You are going to see apps on this that will make you want it. Having the larger screen to play with using multitouch is a much bigger deal than many people imagine. It's the type of thing that is going to make you touch your laptop screen by accident." See this: http://www.inkling.com/
rr0de74@live.com
on Jan 28, 2010
This is some good stuff right here. For ALL of you doubters, watch this video. Specifically listen the HP talk about consumer feedback and the NEW ways people are consuming information and about the "Gap". Paul should have watched this one before opening his mouth. http://gizmodo.com/5456941/hp-slate-coming-2010-way-less-than-1500-plain... Remember this is HP and HP before Jobs spoke and this is Windows 7....so it must be what the consumer wants. Maybe they used the same speech writer??
yoshipod
on Jan 28, 2010
" Only about 1.03 million tablets were sold in 2009, down from 1.3 million in 2008, according to Gartner." This will be the real test. How many ipads will Apple sell in 2010? If the 2009 numbers hold, Apple can get 20% market share selling only 250,000 ipads. That seems extremely likely. I would not be surprised if they sold 500,000 of these things or even 1,000,000. Its easy to see the ipad becoming the best selling tablet in 2010.
chuckb84
on Jan 28, 2010
"Its easy to see the ipad becoming the best selling tablet in 2010." Yep. And Paul will post that it only has 1.378953% marketshare :) Funny how marketshare matters so much for the Mac---in fact it is the only thing that seems to matter for Paul----but never matters for, oh, the Zune, for example.
tayme
on Jan 28, 2010
I see 2 things happenning with the Kindle because of this...a substantial price reduction and epub format. I hope for both so I no longer have to share a Kindle with my wife! She also has the Kindle app on her iPod, and keeps a couple of books sync'd up to it...but they suck to read, and not because of the screen size. We have all gotten used to reading emails and text messages on a 3 inch back lit screen. They are quick reads and we don't stare at it for hours. People keep writing of the e-ink display, but believe me...until you have used it for more than 5 minutes in a Target store looking at a Sony device or looking at a friends Kindle, really used it to read an entire novel, or a daily newspaper every morning...you will not appreciate it. Sure its not color and the pages aren't animated; so what. That may be handy for text books, and if you don't think that the Kindle developers are working on an animated color e-ink device, you are fools. --tayme
NoNameAtAll
on Jan 28, 2010
"98% of the people don't care about the geek stuff underneath. They want a sleek looking device, that works without fuss, annoyances and malware !" You mean a Macbook? Seeing as that does the same as the iPad and then some.
EricoF3
on Jan 28, 2010
rr0de74@live.com said: "@EricoF3 want to wager on who will sell more, the HP slate or Apple iPad? HP did say it was going to be less than $1500. Not sure they wanted to go as low as $499 but we shall see." No no no!!! I never pretend this!!! I don't know which will sell better... But I know that Windows 7 slates in general will sell more than the IPad... 95% of the computer users use Windows, here I assume here that this will continue and that the majority will prefer to buy a Windows slate, don't care which brand, than buy a iPad... The interesting thing here is, because Apple do an tablet that is more like an iPod touch than a Mac, they create a competition between Windows PC and a IPod machine rather then a competition between a Windows PC and a Mac PC... An for that, I must admit it is clever from Apple. I mean they succeed to move the competition from a domain which they don't have the momentum to a domain that they have all the momentum... For that I must admit it is wise...
EricoF3
on Jan 28, 2010
NoNameAtAll said:" "98% of the people don't care about the geek stuff underneath. They want a sleek looking device, that works without fuss, annoyances and malware !" You mean a Macbook? Seeing as that does the same as the iPad and then some." A Mac book hahahah!! A Mac book don't run anything ... You could buy a Windows 7 machine and keep it close and you will have the same as a Mac book ... No malware and no software to run... Hahahah These guys are funny!! :)
NoNameAtAll
on Jan 28, 2010
EricoF3: I just meant if one wants the Mac experience. And there's the option of Boot Camp as well. Don't lump me with robertsjoe and the like.
smiddlehurst
on Jan 28, 2010
@EricoF3 - the problem with your asumption here is that I honestly don't think people WANT slates that run full desktop OS's. Sure, they sound great but really THINK about it for a moment. You're going to take a desktop application like... oh, let's say Office 2007 and put it on a 10" screen that's operated by touch. Fire up Office on your PC the next time you're using it, max it and try to imagine using it with a finger. I'm betting that unless you're using a 20"+ display you can't get at the individual UI elements without taping the one next to it. It's not enough to have an OS that's touch optimised, the apps have to be built from the ground up to do the same. That's the problem MS has had since day one with the Windows tablet which they tried to overcome with a stylus. That works fine for professionals but, and again sorry to say this, home users simply don't want stylus input on their computers. It's not cool, it's not any more intuitive than a mouse / keyboard, is far too easy to loose and, worst of all, means that a Windows slate really doesn't offer anything different to a laptop and usually costs more. We've been here before with MS and I really don't see anything new or interesting in the HP Slate over the old tablets that's going to change the result. Maybe Android or something similar will compete with the iPad but not Windows 7 using standard Windows applications. Actually, here's a great example: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/2010-01-06hpslateg... Look at the controls for the media player and the size of the fingers holding the device. Granted it's monkey boy doing the holding but still... does that look easy to use to you? Compare it to the iPad, there's at least double the spacing between the buttons. Not such a big deal with a mouse, absolute killer with fingers. To meander to a conclusion here: we're entering a new era of computing where the hardware really doesn't matter much anymore. The last, what, 20 years or so have been based around the business and it's their models and abstractions that have been used in the home. Now we're moving (in the home market) towards computers that are focused around the web, around slim, efficient applications and around portability. There's still a little way to go but make no mistake, the iPad IS the first proper step down that road. Android will follow and I'm sure there'll be more. MS finds itself in the very uncomfortable position of its greatest asset - its legacy support - suddenly being a huge disadvantage. To compete in this new space they're going to have to go back to the drawing board. They're already doing it with WM7 if reports are to be believed, they're going to have to do the same thing to compete in this emerging home market.
DRWAM
on Jan 28, 2010
What hurts about the name is that you write on a pad, but cannot on an iPad. iSlate would have been better perhaps.
rr0de74@live.com
on Jan 28, 2010
@tayme, while I do think eink is better for reading, I dont buy they hype of eyestrain. I am IT, I sit in front a computer screen at least 8 hours a day and my eyes are no worse for it. I might be bored out of my skull reading a Cisco ACE manual on a computer but my eyes are fine.
tayme
on Jan 28, 2010
@rr0de74 - You must still be young then. I have been in IT for a very(very) long time and used to fill that way about eyestrain...then it was reading glasses, then bifocals, now progressive bifocals! Back in the amber and green screen days, it wasn't so bad...backlit screens make my eyes bleed. --tayme
tayme
on Jan 28, 2010
Oops...fill = feel! See what I mean, I would have caught that on a Kindle! :-) --tayme
anonymous
on Jan 28, 2010
This post was mentioned on Twitter by mrdoornbos: iPad: The Morning After http://bit.ly/bpbFsY
MattBakerJr
on Jan 28, 2010
Years ago, Jobs said he didn't want to make a tablet because the only thing you could do with a tablet was surf the web in the bathroom. Yesterday, that's what he delivered to us.
SempSempSemp
on Jan 28, 2010
@DRWAM Yeah it does - for a nice extra fee and it only outputs to 480p or 576p. Awesome huh? My netbook can output to 720p :) @rr0de74 I have a nice 11 inch netbook with a decent battery and I run Chrome browser which gives me the ability to view flash pages. I have arrows keys to move the page up and down. I also have 250gb storage - currently I have the entire collection of seinfeld and whose line on my netbook (together about 18 x 24 x 170mb = 73gb = more than the biggest iPad has). Knowing that, which do you think I like? @BrandanL You need to understand that consumers want to understand. They want HDD size numbers and they want specs. Even the lamest of ducks now understands that 1ghz is not fast. Even the most simple computer users will have some understanding that 16gb for a computer is not very much ("wait, my phone has 32gb and my iPad only has 16gb - is that right?"). Maybe they don't care but they should. As "they", the less informed about technology, increasingly become "us", the more well informed, Apple is going to have real problems. Every kid in the state schools in my state in Australia is given a netbook to work on. You want to keep people in the dark about technology - keep them buying Apple. You want people to learn - encourage them to buy a PC. Here's the scary thing - you obviously know a bit about computing (as with rr0de) and you are defending the position of "Hi my name is lamp, whats a computer?" @rr0de74 You forget that people are starting to understand the link between whats under the hood and what the device can do. This is not the 1990's anymore. Everyone has a computer. @Ocean Problem is that you are describing a product that already exists. Most of the angst here is that Apple is claiming "REVOLUTION!" and then showing us same old same old. @rr0de74 I actually really like the look of that slate. And I can tell you why. I don't want another device that stores new sets of files again. I don't need it. I don't want something that can't connect to my home computer while I travel. I don't want something that is, yet again, another independent piece of hardware. I want computing experience to be something that combines - not divides. @chuckb84 Listen to the podcast occasionally. Paul constantly bashes microsoft products too. He has belittled the zune on many occasions for it's shortcomings. @all Here's the root of the problem as I see it. People are saying to the tech crowd, "Shut up! no-one cares what is inside it" and the tech crowd are saying, "You should care what's inside it". The irony is that it's BECAUSE OF THE TECH CROWD that we are where we are today in technology. It's because of the tech crowd that technology moves forward. The only way to impress techheads is by doing something that is impressive. Who cares, you say? Consumers aren't techheads, you mutter? Here's the problem - without us, the consumers end up with exactly what Apple wants to give them. Without us, people wont know that if they want to play games on their iMac (with the ever increasing catalogue) that an ATI 4650 256mb is simply NOT POWERFUL enough to run games at a decent resolution on a 30" display. Without us, they'll never know that paying over $2000 for a desktop pc is ridiculous given the components inside. Without us, they wouldn't know that outputing to a TV from an iPad at 480p/576p is just unacceptable in the era of HD televisions. Knowledge is power and knowledge is freedom. Techheads exist for this purpose. We want power and freedom. Apple is ushering in an era of "don't worry about it" "it'll just work" "you don't need to know the details" "options menu? what for? you don't need options" Am I the only one that is terrified of this We have spent 20 years getting computing technology into mainstream consciences and Apple wants to take all the awesomeness of such technology and turn it into a toaster? That's great and I'm sure it would be simple - but computing has limitless possibilities and we are training people to be dumb. Am I am employing a bit of hyperbole - probably. But I am sick to death of people simply accepting , blindly, everything Apple churns out.
SempSempSemp
on Jan 28, 2010
@MattBakerJr I wish I'd read that before I just typed all my rant. It's exactly what I feel.
Ocean
on Jan 28, 2010
"I spent way too much time playing with the iPad today. In fact, I'm still thinking about it and here's why: The browser is better than the browser on my MacBook. It might be the best browsing experience out there. By a lot. Not only is the browser really (MacBook Pro type) fast, but it is a much more natural way of "surfing". Instead of hitting your trackpad you just point to what you want on the screen. There is no hand-eye coordination required. It is the best of the iPhone's pinch/scroll/zoom/resolution independence on a sufficiently large laptop caliber display. If I want to go portrait? Boom. Make no mistake: Apple is targeting the uber-hot netbook market with this device. What are you doing 90% of the time on a netbook? Browsing. " http://www.9to5mac.com/node/13498
SPiotr
on Jan 28, 2010
Guess who. "There's just one problem: For all its over-the-top cuteness, the Wii is a one-trick pony"
rr0de74@live.com
on Jan 28, 2010
@sempsempsemp "Here's the root of the problem as I see it. " Sorry your wrong. How do I know? Sales of the iPhone back it up. Ever growing popularity of simple cloud apps. Gaming consoles killing PC gaming sales. Consumers want Microwave oven types of consumer electronics, master a few buttons and make it give you, your desired output. If the right hardware is not in the device, because its slow or buggy consumers will answer with their wallets. I know so many people that have switched to Macs, and the 90% of them did it because when it was time to get a new computer, the loathing of malware problems on Windows made them try a Mac. They did not want to hear any more about all of the things they had to do to NOT get malware, they just wanted to use their computers. Nothing wrong with being technical, it is my career, but people outside of IT, only think ROI or simply put....will it do what I need it to do.
rr0de74@live.com
on Jan 28, 2010
@MattBakerJr...what he really said was... "Why has it taken so long? Because Steve Jobs reportedly wanted to make sure it's good for more than just surfing the Web on the can." I would assume he was referring to the early days of Windows tablets where a full version of Windows ran on a under powered device. Paul reminds everyone that Microsoft was first to have tablets a long time ago. Paul is correct. We had one at work, it sucked very much so. It was ruggadized and that part of it did work well. Yesterday, that's what he delivered to us.....something that is good for more than surfing the web on the can. http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-tablet-mandate-more-than-just-...
solag
on Jan 28, 2010
"@drwam what you listed as your needs hardly matches anything that it was presented to be good at. I did not hear Jobs or any of the others talk about Citrix, VPN, Active X, or making phone calls. The phrase "mobile office" was never mentioned." Maybe because they already have it covered: Citrix Receiver for iPhone http://community.citrix.com/display/xa/Citrix+Receiver+for+iPhone the iPhone has had Cisco VPN support built in since 2.0 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/vpn_client/cisco_vpn_client/iPh... LogMeIn https://secure.logmein.com/US/products/ignition/iPhone/ Office support and document editing http://www.quickoffice.com/ Etc... Sorry, Dr. Wam if you are tied to an app that's tied to an ActiveX control. That's a sorry state. But otherwise, everything you initially cited as lacking is there. Most of it for quite a while now. Now picture it at a more natural, detailed size. I've been more effectively remotely supporting my clients than my coworkers who have remained devoted to WinMo with the ease and strength of LogMeIn for iPhone. Think about... supporting Windows better than Microsoft devotees on an iPhone.
chuckb84
on Jan 28, 2010
"Am I the only one that is terrified of this We have spent 20 years getting computing technology into mainstream consciences and Apple wants to take all the awesomeness of such technology and turn it into a toaster?" It's worth noting, again that the iPad is probably not aimed at most people commenting here. However, many people would love the benefits of a "computer" without having to worry about any of the details. Belittle it as a "toaster", but that is exactly what gives it a chance of success. Gruber has a better analogy over on daringfireball: Automatic transmission. It isn't for purists, but it is used on 98% of the cars in the US, because it abstracts away the concept of gearing...you push on the gas pedal and the car goes. It's a little less efficient and there is a small performance tradeoff, and......almost no one cares. Once upon a time, I had a nice little BMW with dual sidedraft carburetors. There was a twice yearly ritual of changing the jets in the Spring and the Winter. Now, it's abstracted away by a temperature sensing fuel injection system (on a Honda, for better or worse). I don't mind. Posters here, Mac or PC, notwithstanding, practically NO ONE cares about the internals of a car, or a computer. That's who'll buy the iPad.
subzerohitman721
on Jan 28, 2010
Paul, This has to be one of your best writings. Not up there with "How Vista fails" but pretty close. Kudos. Here's the problem with the iPad. Where does it fit? What service do you cannibalize from Apple to make it a success? It has the real problem of cutting into iPhone sales, it has the potential to cut into Macbook sales, it could really do a number on the Mac Mini sales. It's not strong enough to be a true Net-book, because the Atom processor runs at 1.6 GHz. Future Atom's will probably be dual core and 2.0 GHz. The iPad lacks the processing power and the graphical strength to play 720p HD resolution. It can't be a notebook replacement because it doesn't have a full OS, hardware, storage or upgradeable capacity. I'll give Microsoft credit, PC tablets run the FULL VERSION of Windows 7, not iPhone OS 3.2. So there's a real question of product confusion and questioning here. It's like Apple's created it's own multi-SKU problem that Windows Vista faced. Didn't they learn from Microsoft's blunders? I have really cheap iPod shuffle, Nano's, Classic's, Touch's, and now iPad to pick from. To me this is very similar parallel to starter, home basic, home premium, business, and Ultimate. What really gets me, in the era of 500 GB, 1 TB, and & 2 TB hard disk, did they cripple the iPad with woefully insufficient storage? SSD's are nice, but they aren't really ready for 2010. Maybe 2012 or 2013, but 16, 32, and 64? You'd fill that sucker up in a heartbeat. Add up those apps, books, and video content, and the iPad makes even less sense. I think HP's Touch-smart 2 tablet makes a lot more sense, cost the same as the iPad's high end, but then you get 720p resolution and 500 GB of storage. That's the better bang for the buck. chuckb84, "Posters here, Mac or PC, notwithstanding, practically NO ONE cares about the internals of a car, or a computer. That's who'll buy the iPad." Really? I hear more and more everyday people talking about the mutli-cores in their machines, how big their hard drives are, how much memory it has, and other system internals when speaking about their personal devices. Or if we're talking cars, a V6 or V8 is very important vs a 4 cylinder powered machine under 200 hp. I don't know anyone with cash & taste, who would be a Mac user driving down the street with a Kia as their ride. Right? I think you are so wrong on this one, you should be embarrassed that you said that. The details are very important in cars and computers. Unless you want to tell Steve Jobs you want the next iMac running on a dual core Celeron processor, EIDE drives, and DDR 2 memory? If no one cared about the Internals of a car or a PC in this case, then why did Apple make a big deal about the Power-PC to Intel transition? Or about Grand Central in Snow Leopard? Or make a big deal about the iPad A4 processor? Or the iPad's 1024x768 screen resolution? Or even mention anything about it's storage? Enjoy the crow my friend. ;)
robertsjoe
on Jan 28, 2010
How much does Microsoft pay you to write this dribble? The thing is that Apple have gotten the tablet right. Something Gates, Ballmer and Microsoft tried so hard to get right. They never did. Now Apple will. And Microsoft will copy. Your posts show the jealousy which runs through the veins of Microsoft fanboys, like yourself and your followers. Apple got the table RIGHT. They will bring it to the mainstream where Microsoft FAILED.
robertsjoe
on Jan 28, 2010
And you thought Mike Galos was a jerk only on this blog? He's known for being a jerk all over the internet. Another example: http://twitter.com/Scobleizer/statuses/8247430227
robertsjoe
on Jan 28, 2010
There are plenty more examples of Microsoft people looking like jerks and getting it wrong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So7qrFO_p44 You'll be wrong about the iPad. It is jealousy. The iDud this year was Microsoft at CES. Nothing there. Lame. The excitement and future is with Apple and Google. And you guys are jealous. Plain and simple.
scoobyclub
on Jan 28, 2010
"Really? I hear more and more everyday people talking about the mutli-cores in their machines, how big their hard drives are, how much memory it has, and other system internals when speaking about their personal devices" I suspect they are either geeks or it is simply small talk. Bit like talking about the weather. Something to talk about but they don't care really. Agree with, Chuck. After watching the video of it being used I was hugely impressed with just how non-technical a piece of kit it is. Sure they have to talk about the specs, and things like battery life is important but for the customers of this it is more of casual device for a bit reading, bit of email, bit of video watching etc. I guess I am saying it is a information/media consumption device but not a device for creating some. I think some people here have to stop looking at it is some form of laptop PC and criticising it for not having Office, USB ports etc. It is a bigger, better iPod Touch and people love those.
rr0de74@live.com
on Jan 29, 2010
"If no one cared about the Internals of a car or a PC in this case, then why did Apple make a big deal about the Power-PC to Intel transition? Or about Grand Central in Snow Leopard? Or make a big deal about the iPad A4 processor? Or the iPad's 1024x768 screen resolution? Or even mention anything about it's storage?" You are the once the will be eating crow. This thing is going to sell and sell a lot. If you take the 90min rollout of this device, how much time was spent on hardware specs and how much time was spent what you can do with it? 9/10ths of the rollout was about what you can do with it. This is a electronic device being unveiled in front of tech press and normal press. You have to touch on the hardware, but just briefly. "I'll give Microsoft credit, PC tablets run the FULL VERSION of Windows 7, not iPhone OS 3.2." Really because a full PC OS in a tablet has sold so well, and devices running the iPhone OS have staggered so badly. The $$$$$$$ dont even come close to supporting your view. Sub...I hope at work you are not making any decisions about spending money . Stick to re-imaging infected Windows boxes, and while doing so calculate how much time you would save if every PC at your work had a i7 with 8gigs of RAM and a raptor HD. Ask your boss if you can upgrade the hardware as part of the clean up.
Dude1313
on Jan 29, 2010
Here's an interesting thing that people are missing, Tayme kinda talked about it: price. Apple has already but major pressure on the OEMS for their tablets. HP currently offers the Mini 311 series starting at $399, this is already in the same ballpark as the iPad. So now the OEMs are in a quandary. Match Apple or go even lower? This is a new market for Apple who is making money at faster rate then either Dell or HP; in short Apple can affords to lose money. Can the OEMs? Dell sure can't afford to. Apple can simply play the waiting game and see what develops. Its interesting the crowd that says this is going to be a failure sure seems to be expending a massive amount of energy to destroy a not released [sic] “niche” product in a “niche” market. How about Intel? http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1050373/netbooks-atom-tale-inte... Apple has now cut Intel out of the Laptop game as far as processor supplier to Apple. People are balking at the "paltry" A4 in the iPad .Those that fall back to the speed argument are simply not getting it. Apple can now chart their own course without having to rely on anyone for their own chips. Couple this with the MASSIVE economies of scale in Flash memory Apple has and they can/will/are exerting massive pressure. Next up the device segment, the ebook readers, laptop replacement etc. Much like DRWAM my wife wants one of these and it’s actually a very good fit for her. She does use applications she is either on FaceBook, Hulu, YouTube or sending emails. About the only App she does use is iTunes or the Itunes store, this fits her needs to a T. An informal poll or just talking in my circle of friends has revealed that 8-10 people would buy it right now. The span the gamut from 2 Apple guys, 2 hard-core Windows IT guys, 3 different women saying this is exactly what they want for a computer/tablet/ebook/hybrid. Anecdotal? Sure. This is just my small circle of friends and co-workers. Note I'm talking about devices; I'm not talking about desktops, laptops. That is where the pro windows side is getting tripped up on. As I stated in the Paul’s IDud thread. This isn’t a device focused on you (i.e. 99.9% of us on this site). This is focused on the vast consumer market who want a device that works and does a few things well, rather then the laundry wish list of bullet point features. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9HfdSp2E2A In short good luck trying to stop this tidal wave that is coming. You might as well be beating back the tide with a broom. Could it fail? Sure. However I will point out that I would bet my money on Steve Jobs being right over the vast punditry of that the web seems to be a petri disk for mountain top wisdom on all things having to do with tablets. Time will tell as to who’s going to be right.

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