iPhone Software Update 2.2 arrives

Apparently the iPod touch doesn't get the new Maps functionality for some reason. Or so claims the internet: http://www.tuaw.com/2008/11/21/apple-also-releases-iphone-os-for-ipod-to...

I read that too scott, and found a method of doing it via Google search, but can't remember the link. The devteam is telling those with pwned phones to hold off on the update. Mine isn't pwned, but if thinking about it, waiting may be needed.

I meant legally?

FYI: In addition to the tweaks and bugfixes (and Podcaster clone) there are a dozen security fixes included in 2.2 so it's probably worth getting just for that even if the non-security patches aren't important to you. Details on the security fixes included are at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3318

DRWAM, Good point. The usual rule of "Don't patch an unlocked iPhone until you're sure Apple didn't decide that this was another good time to teach their customers a lesson by bricking their phones" still applies.

johnpapola I said it was pretty... But, they just cloned a "home" button from WM There's no at-a-glance way to see what appointments are coming up There's no at-a-glance way to see today's task list No cut/copy/paste It's a great device for people whose lives are meeting friends for drinks after a day of shopping. For anybody else, the optimization's wrong. Dedicating the entire primary UI to a menu of "My 12 favorite applets and 4 from Apple" is, for me, a waste of screen real estate that could do something useful. It's the same design as going back to Windows 3.0 and permanently maximizing one pane of Program Manager.

mike, I would agree that this is not the best phone for business users. Also, I don't think the iPod Touch is a good music player. It has a pretty looking UI and has some cool applications. The thing is, the people have spoken. It's hard to argue with that. :-)

Our Exchange calendar works great on the iPhone, but my budies can't get it working on their Blackberry's [two different models]. Setup was a snap too. Now Saisuke, a $10 iPhone app, will two way sync with Google calender [GooCal]. The free version only syncs the current week, but if you change the date of the iPhone, you can keep syncing any amount of weeks you want. After 11 changes, I got 3 months of appts. If I use it a lot, I'll but the $10 version. [Although it's not likely simce I work at a computer most of the day and have access to Exchnage or GooCal or WinLive Cal.I'm playing, I mean testing them all.]

Come on Mike, Yes the Apple fanboys are delusional about the Mac but the iPhone and i Pod Touch are the greatest things since sliced bread. The devices are fun and highly functional.

tayme No, unlike the Apple trolls on here that you don't seem to have any problems with, I didn't lie and actually provided useful information like the inclusion of critical security patches that Paul's article skipped. You see, someone saying something that you don't like isn't trolling. Mac fans seem to miss that difference for some reason - maybe too many of Apple's ads. Now, trolling (like we see here every day from Apple fans) would be more like: "Crapple sux, d00dz" "Hope it works with Windows 'cause both OS X users already jailbroke their phones" "So has Crapple found a way to dual boot it into Windows so you can get software like they did with Crapintosh?" "Hey, an upgrade to your jewelry while you use your Windows phone to actually get a signal" and it would be posted it on an Apple site.

The fact that iPhone killed Windows Mobile in the market is testament to Apple's superiority when it comes to UI and usability. Something MS never has been good at. And still isn't without taking other's work as their own in hindsight.

@mikegalos: Your comments, and lack of understanding and knowledge of UI and what makes it usable really is shinning through. Really your atypical Windows user to a tea. Like I've said before, that comes from Steve Ballmer and Bill Gates down through every vein and pore of the company, it's employees and to it's users. You are attracted to things that represent what you're like. Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer and Microsoft. No taste.

@robertsjoe - Just like mikegalos....nice trolling, there. How many Windows users have you converted this week? I would venture a guess of ZERO. Have you bowed before Lord Steve and asked for forgiveness for this failure? You and mikegalos should really get together for a beer...or coffee...or something. You belong together. --tayme

@tayme: "How many Windows users have you converted this week?" None. It's impossible to convert someone that doesn't want something better. It's hard to convert someone that's ignorant.

They still haven't fixed my biggest issue with it. Why can't i have it to synced with iTunes on my work PC and iTunes in my personal desktop. Surely this is a quite a common situation. As a side note, just reintsalled iTunes and well done Apple two UAC prompts while installing. Keep the myth alive ahh

FYI, I just found this: http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/22/apple-approves-third-party-email-clie... So, I can use 3rd party apps on my Windows, but not allowed on Apple systems? It's all about choices to me.

That said, I hate browsing the web on such a small device, with all the panning and zooming. It's annoying. I usually browse only WAP sites on the iTouch. I don't get the fascination with web browsing on such small form factors, but, to each is his own.

lindy, you're unbelievable. I mean, all gorath did was to disagree with you and there you go mocking him. Mature, indeed.

@Mike, That glance-able summary view is nice. You won't get an argument from me on that. I would love to see apple turn their glance-able screen into a similar layout when you briefly hit the power (before sliding to unlock the interface). However, this home button mini-feature that you're maniacally stuck on has nothing to do with that. This is about zipping to the first page of apps. Period. It's yet another effort to reduce steps in the UI and it's a good one. I personally don't need or want a "glance-able" page once I've unlocked the phone for use. I want one-press access to the apps/features I intend to use. After all, if I've swiped it open, I want to use it, not just glance at it. The idea of using "start" drop-down menus on a 3 inch screen is part of the problem. Microsoft clearly didn't even consider using non-windows UI conventions. That Apple started from scratch and built a new paradigm for a new platform shows why they are doing so well. This market favors form-factor and integration over "choice". This is Apple's game to lose, now. "It's a great device for people whose lives are meeting friends for drinks after a day of shopping. For anybody else, the optimization's wrong." - mike This is just an asinine statement of bias and weirdness. It's typical blind apple-basher ad hominem attacks. You might as well say "iPhone users are f@gs". Seriously. This is barely above "crapple sux". Barely. I'm an exec and I rely on my iPhone for all the exchange functionality. It's quickly taking over Viacom's top brass (of which I am certainly not). I especially love the list view on my calendar. I also rely on it's excellent document preview interface and, like most users, love it's amazing desktop-grade browsing experience. Especially during my 1 hour+ (one way) commute each day. I happen to see many MANY business people in downtown Manhattan and on the subways and buses working off of iPhones. I also see them watching movies and listening to music. It turns out, business users are also humans and like a great media experience too. I honestly can't say that I've really longed for cut-and-paste much, but that's going to be a per-use issue. I do understand why they're taking their time to get the UI convention right with it, though. Mike, it's abundantly clear that overall, the iPhone's UI paradigm is easier to use than WinMo. That there may be the random feature difference that people prefer in WinMo is without question. But your hackery is in taking one or two features and damning the whole system. It's also clear to everyone that you're a biased Microsoft apologist, blind Apple basher and a great abuser of facts. No matter. The iPhone is already well on it's way to marginalizing all WinMo devices combined into the "Other" sliver of the pie chart. Android will drain every nickel out of the licensing game for the mobile market that isn't an iPhone or a Blackberry. I wonder if Ballmer still "like's his strategy". Monopoly leveraging isn't going to work this time.

John, google Calendar [GooCal] syncs with Outlook [Mike gave me the link for the app] and SaiSuke is a $10 app that gives a good Monthly view and has two way sync with GooCal. Saisuke Free is the same app but it only syncs the current week [although you can keep changing the iPhone date and sync two each week of your choice] and is a good demo. I like the monthly view more than list view. Did you pwn your phone and did it update to 2.2?

This is how it usually goes: Mike, you're wrong about blah, blah, blah... You're just another Apple hating, Microsoft jihadist... God, you make me hate Microsoft so much. F**k them. F**k anything M$. I hate that company. God, Micro$oft makes me so mad I want to cry. I need a hug from my Mac. Comfort zone... comfort zone.

Shark that is funny. Mike has been asked over and over to answer questions and provide solid information to backup his rantings. He never does. What has he contributed to this thread? Does he have an iPhone/iTouch to speak to this new firmware? Has he ever said anything positive about Apple? (this thread is about the iPhone) When I said that Exchange was a great product, exactly how does that jive with "That probably explains your all-out attacks against everything Microsoft." You see most of us call like it is, when Apple is wrong they are wrong, when MS is wrong they are wrong. Conversely both do great things. Why dont you contribute something to this thread beside defending Mike? Are you his son or something?

"Has he ever said anything positive about Apple? (this thread is about the iPhone)" No. He hasn't. And you're using that as a platform to attack everything about MS. I mean, papola is as big a fanatic as he claims mike is. You guys whine about Paul and Mike attacking Apple and go back and do the exact same thing. Here's a question for you, why don't you contribute something meaningful instead of your usual gibberish about MS and some of the posters here? What have you contributed to this thread? Nothing. Welcome to Club Hannity, AKA the Brotherhood of Mac.

shark I actually posted quite a bit on the Simple Basic thread.

Apple posts a routine 0.1 update for the iPhone. Mike does 8 posts to remind all that he thinks the iPhone sucks. Get a life was never a more appropriate comment.