Is Microsoft serious about gadgets?

LiveSide's Donavon West asks what I think is a valid question (though to be fair, he is the CTO of LiveGadgets.net, so he certainly has a personal stake in this discussion as well):

Has Microsoft all but given up on it's gadget platforms?

Many groups within Microsoft have blogs where they talk about what's going on in the group, give advise on programming, etc, but some groups are more involved with their readers that others. The last post to the Windows Vista Sidebar Blog is dated July 31, 2007 and the Windows Live Gadget Blog is dated June 27, 2006.

Most of the top players in Microsoft's Live.com group (the innovators of web gadgets) have either left the company or moved on to other groups within Microsoft.

At Microsoft's MIX08 conference in Las Vegas, I did not hear the word "gadget" uttered once by any panel member or during the keynote.

Microsoft has three inter-related gadget platforms--Windows Sidebar, Windows Sideshow, and Live.com--none of which have shown any sign of life at all. And I'm surprised this hasn't gotten that much attention: Everyone jumps all over the lack of Ultimate Extras, but that feature only affects a tiny percentage of Vista users. The lack of momentum for Microsoft's gadget platforms affects a much wider audience, including all Vista users, all Live.com users, and whatever group would eventually use SideShow if some enterprising hardware maker would just ship a decent compatible device.

All that said, as I noted in Part 2 of my ongoing series about Windows 7, the first external build of the next version of Windows shows that Microsoft is indeed refining the way it exposes Sidebar gadgets in Windows. So there's at least some hope, however small, that work is ongoing. I mean, someone changed the way gadgets work in Windows 7.

The state of Microsoft's gadgets platforms, today, however, is a joke. Two reasons why this is so:

  1. There are three different gadget platforms. While each of the gadget platforms I mention above can share some code, developers cannot write a single gadget that will work across all three platforms. That's limiting.
  2. Virtually no decent third party gadgets have ever shipped. Where as the Gmail gadgets, the Windows Live Messenger (and other Windows Live) gadgets, the other obvious gadgets that I expected we'd see by now? The gadgets on Microsoft's Gadget Gallery are universally so poor it's laughable.

Microsoft needs to be transparent here. Are they in or out? If they're not in--really in--then just give it up, please, and stop wasting our time.

Discuss this Article 11

Dipsh t Admin
on Apr 14, 2008
I was really hoping to see some SideShow stuff out by now, but that has been very slow. There is some quality stuff like Media Center remotes running SideShow by Ricavision, but they are incredibly expensive. At least the Dell XPS 420 has a SideShow display. In terms of the gadgets, I was also hoping for a lot more traction. I was using the Yahoo! Widgets app pre-Vista and there was a huge community of widgets available. One thing that I have seen mentioned is that these gadgets are kind of inherently insecure, which could be a reason why they have been pushed to the side.
Auras
on Apr 14, 2008
Microsoft even broke support for some gadgets when they released some update or something. Now no gadgets can display wifi signal nor network settings (ip,gateway). I may be wrong about the latter.
JuryDuty
on Apr 14, 2008
I wouldn't say there are no good gadgets for Windows Sidebar. I was able to completely give up my Yahoo Widgets because everything I used there was duplicated in quality Sidebar gadgets (iTunes player, package tracker, eBay tracker, system meters and weather). But I'll also be the first to admit there should be SO many more quality gadgets than there are.
lilserenity
on Apr 14, 2008
Two great posts in as many days. As for gadgets, I can't comment on what Microsoft is doing but not everyone has given up on them. I for one am finishing a brand new local authority website here in the UK which has its own 'sidebar' and gadgets, virtually all of which can be downloaded in Tiger/Leopard widget or Vista gadget form allowing people to place the gadgets from the website on their 'local' PC. This will enable people to have a local library search, or 'where is my nearest...' and even a refuse day checking tool on the Win Vista/Mac OS X desktops without being on the website. Sidebar/gadgets will to some extent live or die by people developing compelling gadgets for the platform. Without gadgets, sidebar is useless, as would be widgets on the Mac.
jmoo2
on Apr 14, 2008
It's funny; I just disabled Sidebar 2 days ago. I've been using it since Vista came out but got tired of no MS support. As you mentioned Paul, where are the gadgets for the MS Apps & Service like Live Mail, Windows Mail, Media Player, Messenger etc? James
Waethorn
on Apr 14, 2008
I've seen too many clients just ignore the Sidebar to bother questioning the decision. Most clients so far seem to stick with the sticky notes and clock Gadgets, but not much else. Hardly anybody I know even bothers to look on Live Gallery. I'd almost bet that the lack of development is probably because the CEIP shows very little usage of the Sidebar overall. I've seen 6 month old systems running Windows Vista where the default Gadgets are still set up and even the RSS reader still isn't configured, let alone disabled.
anonymous
on Apr 14, 2008
[Source: Paul's SuperSite blog] quoted: And I'm surprised this hasn't gotten that much attention: Everyone jumps all over the lack of Ultimate Extras, but that feature only affects a tiny percentage of Vista users. The lack of momentum for
anonymous
on Apr 14, 2008
[Source: Paul's SuperSite blog - All Comments] quoted: I for one am finishing a brand new local authority website here in the UK which has its own 'sidebar' and gadgets, virtually all of which can be downloaded in Tiger/Leopard widget or Vista gadget
Delmont
on Apr 15, 2008
You do know you can close the side bar, but still keep your gadgets on your screen and also position them anywhere on your desktop.
clindhartsen
on Apr 15, 2008
It is kind of depressing MS has kind of left the Sidebar alone, I mean, a lot of possibilities are out there for what could be used on it and, honestly, there are a number of things I wish I could find quality widgets of.
RunTimeError
on Apr 15, 2008
I personally find Gadgets useless and keep the sidebar disabled in Vista. I also find Widgets useless and keep Dashboard disabled in OS X. To each their own I guess.

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