Live Mesh service update

Can someone explain what Foley is talking about here: >>A collaboration and sync platform definitely has a place in the corporate world -- a fact Microsoft archrival IBM already has proven by putting REST interfaces on MQ, CICS, DB2 and various Lotus products and exposing the resulting data feeds to customers. If that weren't proof enough that there are business uses for the services Live Mesh will deliver, an entirely different business unit at Microsoft has been building yet another sync platform -- the Microsoft Synchronization Framework -- which is 100 percent business-focused. (Why Microsoft didn't use the Sync Framework as the foundation for Live Mesh, instead of building the Live Mesh platform from scratch, is beyond me.) << http://redmondmag.com/columns/article.asp?EditorialsID=2694

A simple answer to the basic question of the article is "what is the difference between Sync Platform and FeedSync?" (The rest is pretty confused and uses some terms in ways that don't make a lot of sense and seem to think they're identical product targeting different audiences which is wrong.) That basic question was answered by Richard Chung from the Live Mesh team on a Microsoft forum at http://forums.community.microsoft.com/en/LiveMesh/thread/613371a2-bfe1-4... so I'll let his answer clarify things. ------------------------------- Live Mesh uses FeedSync integrated as part of its end-to-end S+S platform. FeedSync and the Sync Framework are very complimentary and work well together to provide a comprehensive sync platform. In terms of understanding which should be used when, there is a simple way to think about it. If the synchronization scenario primarily revolves around variety of web feeds (RSS, ATOM etc) then FeedSync is the obvious choice. On the other hand, when the scenario involves variety of custom data types other than feeds then the Sync Framework provides a flexible approach for building custom sync solutions. So overall these two approaches are very complementary and provide a comprehensive sync platform from Microsoft.

Interframe All I can say is wait until the PDC in October when you can use the platform rather than just the sample app. :-)

Oh, and by the way...the latest sales numbers show that the 360 sold less than the number 2 handheld --> the PSP. Nintendo won this generation...they've got the top two in hardware sales. July NPD Hardware Sales * DS - 608,400 * Wii - 555,000 * PS3 - 224,900 * PSP - 221,700 * Xbox 360 - 204,800 * PS2 - 155,500

Ocean, I'd answer your real questions about Live Mesh as a platform and FeedSync and where you know less than Mary Jo Foley but not after you bombed the list with a meaningless off-topic flamebait.

I noticed on an XP machine the Mesh updated required a re-boot. On my Vista Enterprise, no re-boot.

@shark LOL! Live Mesh is cool, even on a Mac:) Can you share it with another user? As in let my wife access my cloud contents via her own account?

"Can you share it with another user? As in let my wife access my cloud contents via her own account?" Yes we can*. Click on "Members" after you open the folder either on your desktop or on the online desktop and then click on 'Add'. *Si se puede.

Ok. I promise, no fingers twisted behind my back, not to post any more OT items in the comment threads. I might even stop posting. There's a happy three-day weekend gift for you guys.

O/T: "mikegalos@msn.com said: @tayme OK Obama will pick Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius McCain will pick Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman" Wrong again! :-) Sorry, had to bring that up.

OT: Paul, hope things aren't too serious with your father and he has a speedy recovery.

DRWAM Is there a reason you aren't just sharing the protocol folder?

O/T - slightly more: "Off topic slightly: Biden: Foreign policy expert. Good pick. Palin: More unknown. Undermines GOP ticket." Palin is a bold and risky choice from McCain. It worked in his advantage that no one was talking about the democratic convention after about 10AM ET yesterday. Everyone wanted to know who this Palin was. Anyway, my point is, Palin is a risky pick, but we will know if she really undermines the GOP ticket over the next few days. To me, it almost looks like the Republicans and Democrats have roles reversed.

I apologize for the O/T post or if this is construed as flamebait, but this is a pretty good article on CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/08/29/apple.loyal.ap/index.html

Actually Sub, the article is purely anecdotal. There are no stats to prove anything that anyone has said there and the Journalist totaly LIED [:)], as Nullriver states right at their website that Apple indeed did respond to emails, but Nullriver's email filtered them out. All the Journalist had to do was read the same page where he could have gotten the info, but he obviously never checked at all, which totally destroys his credibility forever:) Here's the proof which you can see was posted on 8/4/08 http://www.nullriver.com/ It's funny how my iPhone hasn't had a single problem or dropped call, and my hard drives aren't crashing in my Macs, but did in my PC's, but neither Apple, MS , Dell or any other computer reseller actually makes their own hard drive. In fact, I've never seen any of Dell RAID 1 config's ever work in numerous friends. Hmmm, strange complaint isolated to Stevo [I heard that he died]. Also, my friends constantly complain about their Dell products, but keep ordering from them. I would say that it fits to this 'unconditional' loyality that the author is suggesting may be unique to Apple [ but even I agree with him on this:) ] Any way, back OT. Mesh is great and can be used just with the browser and without the software. Live Mesh software adds more functionality. Just right click on a file or folder after it's installed on your jaw may drop. Let it sync and go to another computer and logon and baddabing, complete access, even without the software installed, even on a Mac. I have not tried to edit, but you can still add [UL] to your folders, from a Mac too. Comcast had a file locker which is buggy, now just called storage. But MS made it much easier...and it's still beta! I will use it for storing documents to view when my techs need the protocols [although they are all printed in a book at the offices, which tends to get misplaced. Also, other files for work will be synced to my folders. This is just too sweet. Again, why pay for MobileMe? I mean, Live Mesh beta seems to work better than MobileMe retail, given what I've read that is.

Shark47 "no one was talking about the democratic convention after about 10AM ET yesterday." True, managing the news cycle is important but I'm not sure muffled laughter is really what the RNC wanted. Of course, today the topic of conversation no matter who the pick had been will switch over to the evacuation of New Orleans before Hurricane Gustav (which was just upgraded to Category 4) makes landfall. And the topic of conversation during the Republican convention is whether the new levees hold under an expected 15-18' storm surge while everybody's minds slip back to the national horor and disgrace of 3 years ago.

I'm kinda laughing at how ironic it is that this topic is littered with OT posts. :)

>>an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected. << http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony Example: Complaints of >>meaningless off-topic<< material in a thread ostensibly dedicated to Live Mesh... ...and then the following action: >>The insanity of the Palin choice...<< Would you prefer this word: http://tinyurl.com/nycl4 ? Good night. :)

I'll give you points for a valiant, but failed, rebuttal.

DRWAM, I agree. I learn a lot here. On very rare occassion, from the petty bickering. But the articles, blogs, and responses can be useful. I still say though Mr. Ghazi's article and website are pretty handy as well. I just wish we were could disagree in here without being so disagreeable in her. Not you Doc, its been fun debating with you in here. Peace.

>>We still use IE on our PC's. I just feel more secure with MS products than 3rd party [FF]<< That's an interesting sentiment.