Microsoft will soon unveil free virus software

So this puts me in an awkward spot. I can't really discuss this too much further at the moment, but since Reuters dropped the ball

* Microsoft getting ready to unveil free anti-virus service

* Software maker says will soon put beta version on website

* Company employees testing it internally

Microsoft Corp is getting ready to unveil a long-anticipated free anti-virus service for PCs that will compete with products sold by Symantec Corp and McAfee Inc.

A Microsoft spokesman said on Wednesday that the world's biggest software maker is now testing an early version of the product with its own employees and that it will "soon" make a trial version available via its website.

Microsoft has said that it will only include basic features for fighting viruses, which would likely make it comparable to the least-expensive products sold by Symantec and McAfee.

So, one might reasonably expect me to be on top of this and ready to publish shots/info whenever Microsoft goes public with it. Let's just say it wasn't supposed to be today. And still isn't, until I hear otherwise. More info when possible...

Discuss this Article 63

DarkSages
on Jun 10, 2009
I hope it works, is quiet, and lite to the system. I have been using AVG free on all my computers and I've never had a problem. With windows 7 and vista I gone months with out having an anti-virus. I am sorry to say that over my long history with computers I have learn to stay away from norton/mcafee. They just slow down your computer and I been infected when they where on watch. Don't worry AVG I will continue to support you as long as you keep it up, but please stop telling me when you update or clean a file. Bother me only when you can't clean a virus.
scottbakertemp
on Jun 10, 2009
Does soon mean in a week or like (Dish network) soon?
animositysomina
on Jun 10, 2009
Windows, now with free virus! (C) Ballmer
sohaniabhishek
on Jun 10, 2009
is there anyone who pays for a Virus software?
animositysomina
on Jun 10, 2009
No, you usually download virus from pr0n sites and/or spam email for free
shark47
on Jun 10, 2009
"Windows, now with free virus! (C) Ballmer" No. It's an anti-virus actually. And it won't come with Windows because that will result in another investigation by the EC.
tayme
on Jun 10, 2009
I still use Windows Live OneCare and like it a lot. Since this is the Morro product that is supposed to be replacing that, its not really un-expected, except that someone at Microsoft must have talked to a reporter out of turn...I wish that they would keep OneCare, though...because it provides so much more...at least to me. --tayme
darkmax
on Jun 10, 2009
Gosh... is that really going to make a difference? BTW, word of warning, for those using free antivirus from AVG, Avira or Avast, please use another scanner to chek your system regularly. I noticed certain malwares would slip pass and stay dormant in these systems.
gfryesc1
on Jun 10, 2009
sweet, this is further proof that Paul's WinSuperShilling nets him inside information. Can't derail that gravy train... and he's right not to, Microsoft is notoriously vindictive to boat rockers. They're almost as relentless as Paul is himself when he's in attack dog mode. Good stuff.
techfan
on Jun 10, 2009
I'm still using OneCare. I was hoping for Microsoft to release its free anti-virus software before, or shortly after, my OneCare subscription had to be renewed earlier this year. I know Paul has said in his reviews that he only uses free AVG with Vista's firewall (and something else). I might go that route with "Morro". I haven't had a virus in a long time. If a Windows user now gets a virus, it's because of poor Web surfing practices.
techfan
on Jun 10, 2009
@tayme - RE: Cont. support of OneCare. I second that. I would use OneCare in Windows 7 but Microsoft has said OC won't be supported in Win7
DRWAM
on Jun 10, 2009
One Care is nice, so hopefully this successor is similar.
DRWAM
on Jun 10, 2009
DarkSages, I gotta say that I have the same feelings and experiences as your post, for what it's worth. It's good to know that it's just not me. Thanks, Doc
mherm88
on Jun 10, 2009
I agree, I liked the latest version of OneCare as well
JamesNT
on Jun 10, 2009
This anti-virus will most likely be Onecare with all the features (i.e. backup and firewall) stripped out except basic virus scanning. I must say, I LOVE how MS has pulled this off. Windows comes with a nice firewall already. You have Windows defender for malware. And now a free anti-virus. So you pretty much have EVERYTHING for free provided by MS that you otherwise would have to pay for from Sin-moron-tech and and Mc-frack-thee. NICE!! JamesNT
wildscribe
on Jun 10, 2009
How about Microsoft Money? I just read on News.com that Microsoft is going to stop selling it on it's website and stop support by 2011. Things seem to hoping in Redmond...
wildscribe
on Jun 10, 2009
One last question for Paul... Did you ever review the MS OneCare.. and if so, was it as good as AVG?
ropp29
on Jun 10, 2009
I can't wait. If you have good internet/email habits you hardly need anything but a free AV. I'm using free Avast right now, and I'm looking forward to switching to something a little more reputable. Also, I think this will stop some of Apple's constant criticism of Windows security. But then again, Apple is Apple and they'll probably make up security issues to criticize once this is released.
Dipsh t Admin
on Jun 10, 2009
"Did you ever review the MS OneCare" 10 seconds of research... http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/wloc2.asp
pthurrott
on Jun 10, 2009
I did review OneCare a few times. Long story short: - Effective anti-malware. - Excellent tools. - A bit slow - Really annoying notifications, just too much Overall, "good"
Waethorn
on Jun 10, 2009
"I wish that they would keep OneCare, though...because it provides so much more...at least to me." It does on XP for sure. On Vista, not so much, but it at least consolidates features that Vista has, and makes it easier to access those features. On Windows 7, Action Center basically is OneCare, sans antivirus, so Morro will just plug into it. FYI: Microsoft always announced that the free antivirus codename Morro will be available when they discontinue retail sales of OneCare. That date was supposed to be something like the end of July. It was also said that Morro is NOT based off the current FCS agent. Instead, it'll be based off the new, more heavily optimized agent that is included in the FCS component of Forefront "Stirling". That's also why it's not ready yet - neither is Stirling. Also, a quick question to the OEM System Builder group gave a response "Partners will receive more information near the end of June". "I was hoping for Microsoft to release its free anti-virus software before, or shortly after, my OneCare subscription had to be renewed earlier this year." Really? I know people that ended up getting emails from the OneCare team (in Canada at least) where they said they were extending their soon-to-be-expiring OneCare subscriptions for another 6 months. That seems to have started about a month ago. "BTW, word of warning, for those using free antivirus from AVG, Avira or Avast, please use another scanner to chek your system regularly. I noticed certain malwares would slip pass and stay dormant in these systems." OneCare has continually been improved on since they received a low score on AV-Comparatives. It only had a bad review once, but AVG and Avast used to be up there near the top slots. Avast is still pretty good, but AVG is now very low in scores. "This anti-virus will most likely be Onecare with all the features (i.e. backup and firewall) stripped out except basic virus scanning. I must say, I LOVE how MS has pulled this off. Windows comes with a nice firewall already. You have Windows defender for malware. And now a free anti-virus." Morro is being developed by the Forefront Client Security (FCS) team. FCS (the client agent program that runs on desktops anyway) looks like Windows Defender and has practically the same feature set. It has the same scanning engine technology too. The only difference is that Defender only scans for spyware/adware, whereas FCS adds in support for Microsoft's AV scanning definitions as well. FCS is designed to be deployed to multiple computers and have monitoring and extra enterprise-level features implemented (it requires a VERY powerful back-end SQL Server-based system for data consolidation and reporting). I've said it before and I'll say it again: I hope the FCS team just take the client agent and makes an easy to use installer for it. Rebranding the FCS agent and creating an installer that automatically installs it in unmanaged mode is all they really have to do to come up with Morro. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what Morro turns out to be, and I would welcome it. Defender works, and so does FCS. Baseing Morro off of an identical code package would make very good sense.
Waethorn
on Jun 10, 2009
"Bother me only when you can't clean a virus." I'd like to know that viruses are actually getting into my system. That's usually a result of an unpatched operating system (worms), or bad internet habits (everything else).
Waethorn
on Jun 10, 2009
"I second that. I would use OneCare in Windows 7 but Microsoft has said OC won't be supported in Win7" You won't need it in 7. Action Center has all the capabilities of OneCare except for antivirus. Just load Morro on 7 to take care of that last remaining missing option.
Andreas J
on Jun 10, 2009
Wow! I was thinking about this today and when it would come up again...
Waethorn
on Jun 10, 2009
I like this part because it makes me laugh: "Microsoft's free product is basically a stripped down version of the OneCare product Microsoft pulled from the shelves," said Symantec Consumer division president Janice Chaffin. "A full Internet security suite is what consumers require today to stay fully protected." So why does Symantec offer a stripped down version of Norton 360, aka Norton Internet Security, or Norton Antivirus then? Does that mean that gamers are left in the lurch too, since they don't make a "Norton 360 Gaming Edition" like they do for Norton AV?
shark47
on Jun 10, 2009
@wildscribe: "How about Microsoft Money?" Todd Bishop talks about it a little bit here: http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Why_Microsoft_is_dumping_Money_475399... "Microsoft has been tightening its belt in the face of the difficult economy, and Money is just the latest product to be cut by the Redmond company."
Waethorn
on Jun 10, 2009
Is Office Accounting also being discontinued?
techfan
on Jun 10, 2009
@Weathorn - RE: Email from OneCare team - I did get an email from OneCare but that was just a generic/automated email about my subscription about to be automatically renewed. This was in Feb. '09, a month before the actual renewal. RE: Windows 7's Action Center - Nice! Thanks for the heads up. One thing that I won't miss from OneCare is its backup and restore feature. It's okay but I wish it had better options, such as restoring full folders. Click on 100 checkboxes to restores files was a pain! Now I use Nero to backup folders instead of individual files.
Waethorn
on Jun 10, 2009
"One thing that I won't miss from OneCare is its backup and restore feature. It's okay but I wish it had better options, such as restoring full folders." Use the restore search option and just give it the name of the folder.
Ocean
on Jun 10, 2009
I use AVG. No complaints here. I know, I know...it does X. What can I say...it and http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php have kept me safe for a long while now.
Ocean
on Jun 10, 2009
Evox
on Jun 10, 2009
I'm looking forward to this, not so much for myself, but for average users. I currently use the Forefront Client in a standalone environment and I've been extremely satisfied with it. If Morro is even remotely comparable it will be a great asset to the Windows community.
shark47
on Jun 10, 2009
Ocean, don't be a d!ck!
rr0de74@live.com
on Jun 10, 2009
"So this puts me in an awkward spot. I can't really discuss this too much further at the moment" What exactly are you holding back? We have all known that onecare is dead and a slimmed down version is coming for free. Not to mention AV software is boring with a B, as far as software is concerned, and no kind of announcement would make it exciting. Free AV software from MS should have been a given all this time. Dont get me wrong I know an OS is a very complicated thing, but it just always seemed ironic that MS would charge for onecare.
robertsjoe
on Jun 10, 2009
Shouldn't the OS just stop viruses from attacking it? Oh no, wait. This is Windows you're talking about. You're plagued with viruses and spyware, so you HAVE to run anti-virus software to protect you. To also slow down your machine. Something OS X users don't have to worry about. Another reason why OS X is so superior to Windows.
rr0de74@live.com
on Jun 10, 2009
@Ocean wow that was telling. The "___goblin" comment was funny:) Shark you a family member of Paul or something?
Waethorn
on Jun 10, 2009
"What exactly are you holding back?" The question is, what is Microsoft holding back on? There hasn't been any kind of announcement to partners yet, which I find frustrating with a capital F. A screenshot or deployment whitepaper would at least be something that I would expect by now - especially if they're keeping to their schedule of having it ready when OneCare retail sales are discontinued at the end of July. You (and Microsoft) have to realize that partners want early access to some of this information, because they want to be able to preload this software on new systems on the day of launch. I think it's kind of silly to hold off on information on this. Partners can get access to information before the general public, and information on the partner websites are given out under NDA status unless Microsoft has already gone public with it, so it doesn't make much sense to hold back. It's also the same frustrating reason why Microsoft has said that the Windows 7 deployment kits (for businesses and OEM's) won't be in release form until AFTER general availability. ....I mean, WHAAAAT?!
Waethorn
on Jun 10, 2009
"Shouldn't the OS just stop viruses from attacking it?" Something that OS X certainly doesn't do. "Something OS X users don't have to worry about." Ya, cuz OS X can't even get NEGATIVE attention. If anybody cared, they might find that sad, but meh....
techfan
on Jun 10, 2009
@Waethorn: Thanks for the tip! I'm going to try it next month during the next scheduled tune up. Another thing that I hope MS learned from OneCare is how it handles notifications. In OneCare, if you don't run Tune-up for more than 5 weeks, you get a warning saying that the status is "Fair". I think that should change to something less alarming. Say, just pop-up a balloon (OneCare is/was infamous for its balloon popups) letting the user know that Tune-up hasn't run in x-days/weeks (I have Tune-up set to run every 4 weeks).
shark47
on Jun 10, 2009
"Free AV software from MS should have been a given all this time. Dont get me wrong I know an OS is a very complicated thing, but it just always seemed ironic that MS would charge for onecare." Maybe you should read some of the other comments here. OneCare was more than just an anti-virus. "@Ocean wow that was telling. The "___goblin" comment was funny:) Shark you a family member of Paul or something?" Nope. Not even close. Are you a family member of lindy's?
johnbaxter
on Jun 10, 2009
OneCare was a good idea, badly done. (Does the fact that the central backup disk on this machine was offline when the other machine wanted to back up really mean an un-clearable yellow state is called for on this machine--even after the backup does run?) I'm only on 7 now, so OneCare is behind me (but not yet expired). Avast! for now, whilst awaiting Morro. Actually, the laptop is naked now (and this machine was until last week).
DRWAM
on Jun 10, 2009
One Care was faster than Avast on my $399 Vista laptop and custom XP box, and had much less annoying notifications. I would give it a higher mark than just good. It found and deleted the Virtumonde trojans on my XP, when fully updated VG and McAfee didn't even find it [even though they claimed to do so on their websites]!!!! I'd give One Care least three Paul heads:)
tayme
on Jun 10, 2009
@techfan - "One thing that I won't miss from OneCare is its backup and restore feature." Plus, it locks you out of the backup directories and you have to force it to give you permission back. That is actually my biggest complaint about OneCare. --tayme
weedmonk
on Jun 10, 2009
http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/06/av-comparatives-may-2009-re... Microsoft has made dramatic improvement in A/V according the latest A/V Comparitives report. OneCare used to always be rated low IIRC.
tayme
on Jun 10, 2009
I just thought of something again...does anyone else notice that a lot of "leaks" are coming out of Redmond lately? Is Microsoft doing that on purpose to build anticipation? Ya gotta wonder. --tayme
techfan
on Jun 10, 2009
@tayme: I haven't had that happen to be (yet), but one really annoying thing was that OneCare wouldn't recognize previous bloody backup DVDs! I ended up throwing away a few DVDs because OneCare wouldn't recognize them and say to insert the previous backup DVD. That was one of the reasons why I stopped using the Backup feature.
whiplash55
on Jun 10, 2009
I tried One Care when it first came out on mt old XP desktop I wasn't impressed. I'm happy with Avira right now it works on Windows 7 both 64 and X86, its lightweight and effective. I choose Malwarebytes for anti-spyware i'ts used a lot by computer techs for cleanup and very lightweight and fast and integrates well with Avira or NOD32 which I think is the best paid AV out there. @tayme I've been thinking the same lately, the leaks seem to be more common than before, and tell me MS is very confident of their products these days
whiplash55
on Jun 10, 2009
@techfan I agree about the backup from one care I had a similar experience. The backup available with Vista and I assume 7 works great, it saved my bacon more than once and is all many people need. Just schedule to backup as often as you need and it does it all. Restoring your data after you install your apps works seem less.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Jun 10, 2009
As a former Program Manager on the OneCare 1.0 team, it's really great to see the people who love the product. Thanks.
anonymuos
on Jun 10, 2009
One thing I'd like to see is customizability and full control over settings i.e.fine tuning the AV. Compared to the configurability we have in Norton 2009 or Kaspersky, OneCare was really a sad joke and why I stayed away from it. But Microsoft is known for their dumbing down of products so I'm not really expecting anything good. Their protection might be good but of no use to me if I can't setup the stupid AV as I want like I can do with just about any other AV/security suite on the market.

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