Mozilla puts Safari's '11 million downloads' in perspective

Firefox indeed rocks, I use it over all other browsers regardless of platform... now if I can just get it on the iPhone.

"...Apple Corp. is a group of the biggest losers in the world. Steve Jobs is a ignorant slob who's success has come completely from dumb luck. " Oh dear! Someone's upset. No. I don't think that's what Paul is saying. Apple makes great products. If you can't take any criticism of Apple, go read David Pogue, MacWorld, Walt Mossberg, etc. You don't want your BP to go up because of Paul, do you?

Apple's default "Yes, please download Safari with my iTunes + QT update" is one of the sleaziest moves in software short of planting viruses on people's computers. At default to unchecked, guys. GRRR!! It just makes the company look desperate and absurd.

"Apple is a pack of lying schemers using the worst lies and frauds to attempt to seduce Windows users and convert them to the Mac "way". It's not just fraud, it's an attack on OUR AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE." Let's be passive aggressive about it. If that doesn't work, let's attack Microsoft. Familiar story here. If that doesn't work either, we always have mikegalos to attack.

To chuck and kent: The deep end. You've fallen off it.

Dipsh t, Ever see Animal House? "American way of life". You can probably stream it off netflix.

Why does Apple get stuck in Pauls craw so much? The '11 million downloads' was pure marketing --- and by devoting posts to it, Paul is just aiding them in their efforts. I'm sure they appreciate it.

Heh, heh... the following is from Thurrott's review of Apple's OS X 10.4 (Tiger): "Apple's Safari Web browser is excellent, offering speedy performance and excellent Web rendering. In Tiger, Safari is updated to include integrated support for Real Simple Syndication (RSS) and Atom feeds, technologies that many blogs now use. When Safari hits an RSS or Atom-backed Web site, like the New York Times, you'll see a new "RSS" button in the Safari address bar (Figure). Click this, and the site's RSS feed is displayed, using a clean Apple-created design that features a right-mounted frame for controlling the amount of information you see and various sorting options (See movie). This screen is not otherwise customizable per se, but it is gorgeous and well-designed. RSS feeds can thus be bookmarked like any other Web page, which is exactly the way it should work, when you think about it. Most modern Web browsers allow you to create Web page archives, which include the Web page you're trying to save plus all of the other content--typically images--that makes the page look right. In Windows, Internet Explorer can store Web page archives in a single file (.mht file type), which is pretty handy, unless of course you want to use another browser to view the file. Firefox, meanwhile, creates a subfolder with other content when it creates a Web archive. Until Tiger, Apple's excellent Safari Web browser didn't support saving Web archives. But now it does: Simply navigate to the Web page you want to save, choose Save As from the File menu, and then select Web Archive from the Format drop-down list box (and, optionally, a location to store the archive). Safari 2.0's Web archives, like those of Internet Explorer, are stored in a single file (.webarchive file type). And yes, like those of IE, Safari's Web archive files can only be ready by the program that created them, and not by other Web browsers. Still, it's a handy feature to have, and a welcome addition to Tiger. Overall, I've always been a big fan of Safari, and I'd use it rather than Firefox or IE if it were available on Windows. It's an excellent application."

The bigger question is does Paul own MS stock or Apple stock. Most people who trade stocks will say Apple is the better investment, even MS fanbois would wish they bought Apple last January.

Apple made a claim. Mozilia called them on it Cnet reported about it Paul passed it on to us. So what exactly is the issue some of you have with this post? Some of you seem PO'd that Paul had the nerve to but this on his blog, and are trying to attack him over it. Go blame Apple. It's their statement. No one is under any obligation to cover for them when people start to dig into them for what they say.

"Some of you seem PO'd that Paul had the nerve to but this on his blog, and are trying to attack him over it." It's Paul's blog, he can put news about his dog farting if he wants. Apple put out a press release; it's the reaction from the WinJihadists that's so much fun to watch. If it's really irrelevant, then why do y'all care so much? "Go blame Apple. It's their statement." It was a statement of truth. Granted, it was pretty irrelevant, but it's not like they lied. Sheesh, people, is this all you have to complain about?

Master3 said: So what exactly is the issue some of you have with this post? Some of you seem PO'd that Paul had the nerve to but this on his blog, and are trying to attack him over it. It's the "nah nah nah nah nah" attitude that gets the response

Kent, it's more to do with memory leaks after using the browser for a long time. In addition to this try opening a lot of tabs and see what the differences in memeory use are between Safari and Firefox. I can only do this on my Win machine, as I don't have a Mac anymore.