New Xbox Experience to use ... Microsoft Windows Cloud OS??

A report about the New Xbox Experience in IGN says that the Xbox 360 will be connecting to Microsoft’s upcoming Windows Cloud OS (which may or may not be called Windows Strata). Huh?

The New Xbox Experience has a slick design, is easier to navigate, and utilizes Microsoft's Cloud Operating System. That last bit really doesn't matter to the average gamer, but what it means is that it will now be very easy for Microsoft to makes updates and swap out elements of the dashboard without having to do a huge production. So if something is broken or if MS decides to add a blade, it will be easier to do. Hopefully that means an ever-evolving dashboard that gets better every few months.

That seems like a lot of wishful thinking at the end of that paragraph or, at the very least, a rewording of what a Microsoft representative said to the author of the article. But it’s pretty clear the author has little to no understanding of the ramifications of this statement, regardless, and no mention of it is made again.

In any event, let’s take it at face value and try to figure out what it means: Windows Strata will be the underlying layer, platform, API, whatever for everything Microsoft is doing online. So something like the Xbox Marketplace, or the Zune Marketplace, would run on top of this thing, perhaps not directly, but at a higher level. So would infrastructure services like Live Mesh/Live Framework, which I take to be Microsoft’s Sync platform. I suppose Windows Live, and Office Live, in their entireties, would run on top of it.

So it does make some sense. But I’m curious someone from Microsoft would simply let that slip out. I’m not surprised that IGN didn’t follow up on it: They’re clearly more concerned with avatars and whatnot, given their audience. But what a weird slip.

Thanks to Chris H. for tipping me off to this.

Discuss this Article 23

tayme
on Oct 10, 2008
I am not so sure taht these are all "slips"...at least not accidental slips. I think it is MS purposefully building up speculation for PDC, the same way that Apple does for MacWorld, in an attempt to get the Blogosphere talking about it. --tayme
bettieblu
on Oct 10, 2008
My two RROD's, failure of HDDVD, the expiration of of my 1 year Live account, and that STUPID looking Wii interface upgrade pushed me to the PS3. Wont go back either.
bettieblu
on Oct 10, 2008
Oh and then MORONIC MS points system.
shark47
on Oct 10, 2008
"Oh and then MORONIC MS points system." Welcome to the world of Nintendo points: http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/10/06/nintendo-points-non-transfer...
shark47
on Oct 10, 2008
Oops. Thought you switched to a Wii. Guess I should've read that more carefully. My bad!
cesjr
on Oct 10, 2008
I can't wait for Windows Strata (i.e., MS's latest attempt to subvert the openness of the internet and replace it with a proprietary layer they control, so as to preserve their monopoly and resulting rapacious 80 percent profit margin). Not.
meason
on Oct 10, 2008
I just prey that this "New Experience" does not mean I repeat my experience of my 8-9th broken xbox
mikegalos@msn.com
on Oct 10, 2008
Gee cesjr, speaking from a lot of knowledge there... If you'd have bothered actually reading anything before spouting out your prejudices as though they were fact, you'd see that Live Mesh is built on public standard protocols. But, hey, you're right about all those evil Microsoft extensions. You probably meant JScript (oh, wait, that's now ECMA Standard 262 at Microsoft's request and pretty much universal on the net). Maybe you meant DHTML/XMLHttpRequest (oh, wait, that's now called AJAX and a W3C draft standard at Microsoft's request and pretty much universal in Web 2.0 apps) No, I'll have to go back to you spouting out your prejudices as though they were fact,
Ocean
on Oct 10, 2008
What color will the xSOD be for the Windows Cloud OS??
Waethorn
on Oct 10, 2008
"What color will the xSOD be for the Windows Cloud OS??" Green - to match your envy over the fact that it never shows up.
Waethorn
on Oct 10, 2008
Hey Paul! Where's the Friday Sh*t Takes? Where's the Windows Bleakly? It's my holiday weekend, not yours! Get back to work, SLACKER!! :P
DRWAM
on Oct 10, 2008
Yo Wae or Mike. What's the best way to test performance with different amounts /configs of RAM? Yea it's OT, but I'd like to see some one big enough to stop me from typing! Thanks, Doc Go Cloud!
Ocean
on Oct 10, 2008
>your envy over the fact that it never shows up.< This makes no sense... A red ring of death, a blue screen of death, I'd agree that green would be the next likely color though.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Oct 10, 2008
DRWAM It depends on what you consider important performance. I know that sounds like a cop out but it isn't. There are general purpose performance test (even the Vista Performance Information and Tools control panel will give you basic data) but the real test that matters is performance doing the things the computer will actually be used for. btw: Totally OT as well, but you might want to check out the Tablet PC of the Future demo that Jonathan Cluts is doing. There's a video at http://www.gottabemobile.com/Microsoft+Shows+What+A+Tablet+PC+Of+The+Fut...
mikegalos@msn.com
on Oct 10, 2008
Waethorn I got Short Takes around 11AM PDT and Windows Weekly is up on the link that the Zune software uses so...
DRWAM
on Oct 10, 2008
That's nice stuff, but it will happen sooner than you think. Publishers need to add internet/cloud features to their book selections so that you will pick their offering over the numerous typical reference texts. Most journals already have an online version for example. Future reference text which will allow you look up pathology and/or regional anatomy when interpreting an MRI of the spine for example, will be more beneficial than a plain text, and will sell more copies. Some text do offer a DVD already, so I see some early forms. But that tablet is sweet. I would like a snappier response, but the technology will get their and not need to be too pricey. Still, it's great stuff. Some of you guys oughta find a popular text and try to make some bucks making it happen. Thanks, Doc
DRWAM
on Oct 10, 2008
I was too tired to play with the new RAM since I was real busy at work. The last patient needed a report sent to the Oncologist tonight, and it was a followup of a tough PET/CT. The next round of chemo depended on the results. The data takes a few minutes to be transferred to the workstation, then reconstructed. It turns out that they waited for a mimVista disc copy of the study which gave me time for a quick review. I immediately saw he improved and ran out to the paring lot to tell them the good news. They had just started their car, so I gave them a good weekend by giving them the good news a few days early [before Monday]. TV and heating pad time now. Doc
subzerohitman721
on Oct 10, 2008
Consider me skeptical about this new Xbox Experience. Since I like the Dashboard the way it is and games like the Force Unleashed. Users have given it pretty above average scores, compared to media scores. Unless this is significantly different than the Wii system, then I won't be sold on it. I actually have to agree with the dissent on here about the 360. Microsoft hasn't done a good enough job on the 360 to hold customers. Then again, I'm seeing a lot of my friends who are Wii owners sending in their machines for faulty laser diodes not reading Wii games or pure overheating like the 360. As for the PS3, well Blu-Ray isn't worth switching for. Since Blu-Ray players are now $200 bucks and Blu-Ray accounts for just a measly 8%, Microsoft ultimately might be a winner for sticking with standard DVD. Sony HD platform may die before it ever gets its moment. Then you'll be stuck with a dead format, just like all those HD-DVD owners. At least the Microsoft addon HD-DVD is only 25 bucks and the movies are dirt cheap. A small silver linging.
bettieblu
on Oct 10, 2008
@subzero, put down the crack pipe. BR is the de-facto HD standard now. 98% of a DVD releases also come on BR. Blockbuster and Netflix will send you BR in the mail for no extra charge if you have their monthly service. Nothing online can match the quality of BR. All HD content from your cable company/Dish/Direct/Apple TV...etc is 720p-ish because its compressed. BR is 1080P uncompressed. BR is probably the last physical format, but it will be successful, because it will probably be a good Five years before you can get a good subscription service that has online HD movies with a selection like Netflix or Blockbuster. You pay for what you get. The cheapest BR I see at wallymart is $250. I am sure some fly by night internet site probably has a Kraft BR player for $199, but even then that is $200 towards a PS3, and you get so much more with the PS3. Only a TOTAL fool would spend a dime on HD-DVD at this point, no one is making movies for it now!!! Man you are the biggest Fangirl on this board. MS chose HD-DVD, it LOST, bad choice....move on.
DRWAM
on Oct 11, 2008
We aren't impressed with anything better than DVD def. If the movie stinks, all the pixels in the world won't make me enjoy it. The BR 'wow' will wear off in a few seconds since I watch the movie and stanard DVD's are fine. We just don't see any nvalue in higher quality video since the content of the movie is what we view, and don't worry of the video quality beyond standard DVD. Heck, many XviD's look fine on a 50 in PDP, but we are oblivious to the quality if the movie i good or bad.
gorath
on Oct 11, 2008
cough, bluray = BD (bluray disc) in the UK at leat. ahem anyway. BD completely and utterly blows away any other current delivery medium, such as sattelite, cable, or downloaded movies, simply because it is, as bettieblu (almost) correctly states, the least compressed of the lot. Watch a HD image on sattelite TV for example, and there's banding in the dark areas of the screen, because the colour depth is reduced to make the broadcast stream manageable. Watch it on BD, and that compression is far far less apparent. That's because BD uses 25 or 50Gigs per film, whereas a broadcast version will not be anywhere close to that. As for online versions? You have to be smoking crack to think that most people will have the ability to download 50Gigs in the duration of a film anytime soon, so again, the image is very heavily compressed on current HD download sites. There's also another odd problem with HD transmission (although not apparent on downloads) that I have noticed. For some reason, the picture/sound sync will drift all over the place here in the UK, and it happens on cable and sattelite. I have no idea why this is, and even after several conversations with video engineers, I am still none the wiser, as nobody I've talked to knows why either. very strange.
gorath
on Oct 11, 2008
@ DRWAM Hmm, as much as I disagree with you about image quality, I do believe that your viewpoint is the most common. The majority of people I know who have 40"+ HDTVs still only have SD picture sources, which, generally, means their TV looks worse than on my ageing 42" Sony WEGA CRT widescreen. However, most of those people are also seemingly unaware of this, and have no real understanding of HD. I feel it's a repeating of the MP3 scenario, where the content creation industry is pushing for higher and higher quality, but consumers are willing to accept lower and lower quality, as more and more entertainment becomes a throwaway item.
DRWAM
on Oct 11, 2008
Since Comcast has now limited bandwith use to 250GB each month, BR, BD and HD DL will be quite a problem, unless content is DL directly from the provider, which would allow higher limits. I would expect that the internet providers may not tolerate the DL of such volume from 3rd party providers, such as the gaming console companies. Also, the 4GB RAM in the $400 laptop is noticably faster. The Vista Performance Information and Tools shows it wuls support 64 bit as well. But definitely not worth the ROI for this cheapo box's use, IMO. Still, I like it. The RAM was $23 after rebate.

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