Now available: Microsoft Security Essentials

The public version of Microsoft Security Essentials is now available from the Microsoft web site:

Microsoft Security Essentials provides real-time protection for your home PC that guards against viruses, spyware, and other malicious software.

Microsoft Security Essentials is a free* download from Microsoft that is simple to install, easy to use, and always kept up to date so you can be assured your PC is protected by the latest technology. It’s easy to tell if your PC is secure — when you’re green, you’re good. It’s that simple.

Microsoft Security Essentials runs quietly and efficiently in the background so that you are free to use your Windows-based PC the way you want—without interruptions or long computer wait times.

My review of Microsoft Security Essentials is also available.

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mikegalos@msn.com
on Sep 29, 2009
Congratulations to the Microsoft Security Essentials team from an old OneCare PM. Nicely done, folks.
realtestman
on Sep 29, 2009
Finally. No more need for rubbish anti-virus suites or half-baked freeware apps.
rr0de74@live.com
on Sep 29, 2009
This is the best app MS has released in a long time. I despise this kind of software and have often run with out it for long periods of time with out harm, and I honestly think that most of malware today is user activated and this kind of software does not do much. I used AVG free, but it bugged me to much and AVG will kill off the free version with new free versions and they force you to un-install and re-install, probably so you buy the full version. This is lite, free, and will automatically update with your windows updates. Any small company (50 or less) should dump what they have now and just use this for their Windows clients.
EricoF3
on Sep 29, 2009
The best security for Malware ever!!! Congrats Miocrosoft!!
mikegalos@msn.com
on Sep 29, 2009
rr0de If I understand it correctly MSE is for home users, ForeFront Client is for businesses.
techfan
on Sep 29, 2009
I miss some of the features of OneCare, like the programs startup manager (also available in Windows Defender), but aside from that, I'm very happy with MSE, and will recommend it to family and friends. I'm not sure if v1.0 was pushed out to beta testers yesterday but when I went to Microsoft Update, I got a def update and when I launch the program, the beta tag was gone.
rr0de74@live.com
on Sep 29, 2009
Probably. I dont see why they dont let companies use it, especially small ones. There is no way to mange them as a whole with this product so I would think that once a company got to a certain number of computers they would go with ForeFront so they could manage it, along with WSUS to manage updates on all computers.
pezzonovante
on Sep 29, 2009
What a great piece of software. Works like a charm.
Logjamming
on Sep 29, 2009
Ah, the illusion of safety. Fixing problems in an OS that should not have been there in the first place and presenting it as a free Christmas gift and all the MSCE-certificate holders all rejoice. Laughable.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Sep 29, 2009
logjamming The people you have that wierd religious relationship with at Apple include an anti-malware product in Mac OS X 10.6.x, I assume your comment applies to them as well?
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
"I'm not sure if v1.0 was pushed out to beta testers yesterday but when I went to Microsoft Update, I got a def update and when I launch the program, the beta tag was gone." Check under Help|About for the software version. 1.0.1500.0 is still beta, but it was a beta refresh that gave you the new icons. The EULA still has the words "pre-release software" though. 1.0.1611.0 is the RTW. I have a computer here with build 1500 and there aren't any updates available either through the program, or on Microsoft Update that will update this to the RTW. It looks like for now, you'll have to do a manual upgrade to the RTW. It looks like you can upgrade over top of the pre-release, and Microsoft hasn't stated that you can't do that either, but I'm waiting for some clarification from them about that. Typically you'd have to remove beta-class software before installing a RTM/RTW build. BTW: Mike, how flexible is the MSMPENG? Seems like they can build a UI for it fairly quickly. "I dont see why they dont let companies use it, especially small ones. There is no way to mange them as a whole with this product so I would think that once a company got to a certain number of computers they would go with ForeFront so they could manage it, along with WSUS to manage updates on all computers." It's in the license agreement actually, fairly close to the top too, under "Use". As is typical with a lot of software, home users get a break, while commercial uses have to pay for it. Businesses get business-level support too, while consumers only likely get forum-based support. To manage Forefront Client Security, you have to pay extra for the management software, which requires a hefty dual-CPU server (or multiple servers - up to 4), and a license of SQL Server Standard (32-bit, until the next version, called Forefront Endpoint Protection comes out), and it costs a few thousand dollars. FCS can scale management to up to 50,000 systems though, so that can be a small price for a large organization. Client AV costs are $12.72US/computer/year, which is still pretty competitive on the market. It'd be nice if they didn't charge for the clients, but support has to cost something, and considering the alternatives that are available, <$13/pc/yr is a pretty small pill to swallow.
de Silentio
on Sep 29, 2009
Logjamming, are you saying that Apple shouldn't release security updates for the holes in their operating system? Because if they did they would be fixing problems in the OS that shoul not have been there in the first place and also laughable.
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
Even with only "basic support", Symantec charges $35/pc/yr at a minimum, but that's with a large scale volume license agreement. That's about 2 & 3/4's the price per PC, and Microsoft got higher reviews in the last proactive test from AV-comparatives.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Sep 29, 2009
Waethorn "BTW: Mike, how flexible is the MSMPENG? Seems like they can build a UI for it fairly quickly." It's a pretty flexible and powerful system but I'm probably a bad choice to ask about it since I'm under NDA on things like internals of the various malware protection components.
Ocean
on Sep 29, 2009
"I used AVG free, but it bugged me to much and AVG will kill off the free version with new free versions and they force you to un-install and re-install, probably so you buy the full version." I just took AVG off of my wifes laptop yesterday and replaced it with Aviras antivirus package. If this maintains its strong pace, I'll standardize the home pc's on it...well, except for the new Ubuntu desktop.
MacLawyer
on Sep 29, 2009
Most excellent. Can you run this *with* AVG, or will the two conflict?
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
Mike, did you ever run into that "100% CPU usage" problem with MSMPENG in testing, or figure out what caused that? That doesn't happen anymore AFAIK, but I know it happened to a few systems I've seen running old versions of OneCare, FCS, and even Defender on XP. I don't think I've come across that problem since OneCare 2.5.
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
"Can you run this *with* AVG, or will the two conflict?" They'll conflict. You can't run two proactively-monitoring antimalware softwares side-by-side. It's bad mojo anyway - AVG faired very bad on the last proactive scan comparative test. It's a piece of crap, and quite frankly, anybody still using it now "because it's free" needs to have their head examined what with Microsoft offering a superior product. Even Avast has always rated higher than AVG.
techman.merb
on Sep 29, 2009
Whatever is written in the license agreement, you know that a lot of small companies will still be installing this. AVG, Avast and all the other free versions include the same terms and their use in small businesses is very high nonetheless. Is it against the EULA? Yup it sure is. Do most people really care? Nope, not one little bit and they probably have no idea that they are doing anything wrong. I've also never heard of one person being hassled by any company for using a free AV in their small business. I would rather see some people break the EULA than have them working with unprotected systems that create problems for everyone in the long run. By the way, I've been running MSE on my home system and laptop since the beta came out and it runs perfectly. It's a great product and a fantastic companion to Windows 7. You can bet that as soon as I get home I'll be updating both of them to the final version.
Grannyville
on Sep 29, 2009
@MacLawyer In my opinion, I wouldn't recommend it. One antivirus should be enough. Just pick the one you like the best and stick with that.
techfan
on Sep 29, 2009
@Waethorn: Thanks for the info! Here I thought I was using MSE's RTM version, but I'm actually using 1.0.1500.0 The MSE site has a message about beta testers upgrading to the new version. Today I got another def update but that was about it. As of 2:26 EP ET there are no upgrades using the built-in upgrade option in MSE, but I found this post on the MSE help forums. http://tinyurl.com/yepco2z
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
"I've also never heard of one person being hassled by any company for using a free AV in their small business." There are regulated companies that would get in serious trouble when they get a software audit. There's also the BSA, which manages illegal business software use cases (in Canada, it's called CAAST). Some may get away with it, but it's not a valid license, hence illegal for them to use it in those circumstances. I suppose you could say the same about purchasing Snow Leopard for $29 if you only use Tiger on your Mac. You could say, "ya people will do this anyway" but if Microsoft were able to instate some kind of enforcement on this, you'd still be crying the blues. When did it become ethically viable to "be" illegal?
GoodThings2Life
on Sep 29, 2009
Granted ForeFront is like $13/client... plus a $2500 management console (if you need that). Frankly, I'm inclined to install the console on one server and then use the clients just so I can use Group Policy to enforce settings for the client... unless, of course, I get ambitious and write my own Group Policy templates for MSE. Great product that MSE is...
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
@techfan: Cool, thanks. Good advice for all. BTW: Boots is awesome on the forums.
techfan
on Sep 29, 2009
You know, if you read the news coverage about MSE, most all positive. The only ones trashing MSE are those that hate "M$", for whatever reason, and those that want something more out of MSE. And still no non-manual upgrade option for beta testers on MSU :-( It would have been nice if beta testers got an upgrade before the official RTM, but I guess I'll just have to wait...
techfan
on Sep 29, 2009
@Weathorn: "Boots is awesome on the forums." Yep! Dude's been there since the OneCare forums days.
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
@GT2L: I don't imagine MSE supports GPO's. The management console costs $98 if you already have SQL Server Standard or Enterprise, so long as you follow the rest of the system requirements. In the future version, I've heard that it'll be free, which will seriously reduce the cost factor for SMB's. Small business customers that need workstation security management would be advised to buy SBS 2008 Premium, so that they get the required SQL licensing. Businesses that don't need advanced management can do just fine with just the workstation Forefront client licensing and some well-crafted GPO's, but centrally monitoring workstations will be limited to SBS's security controls which are fairly limited.
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
@techfan: As the forum guy said, you'll likely just have to wait for the Microsoft Update servers to be propogated with the upgrade. In either case, you'll still have the updated engine and virus definitions, which is the main thing.
NoNameAtAll
on Sep 29, 2009
I switched to MSE yesterday. Found the old Beta elsewhere and updated it to 1.0.1500.00. I'm liking what I see so far. Updated it to 1.0.1611.00 the moment I saw the site go up (Actually, at the time, the site kept going up and down. :P) It's good stuff, to be sure. This is a good Antivirus and I've got Spybot S&D alongside it for good measure. Good thing Antispyware solutions don't conflict, eh?
rr0de74@live.com
on Sep 29, 2009
@wae before the 1.5 beta update I saw that 100% CPU issue with this product on XP, Vista and 7. I would get 80-100% CPU for about 30min after a reboot. I had a friend with a Vista machine SP1 with 1gig of RAM. He added 4gigs of RAM and I updated the box. His Crapafee was out of date so I gave him the beta, but then removed it after I saw this CPU problem and went with AVG.
techman.merb
on Sep 29, 2009
@Waethorn I never said that I agreed with those that do that, just that people do and will continue to do so. Personally I find it a shame that small businesses have little option other than to use overblown security suites for protection when something like MSE is perfect for their needs. Very small businesses with under 25 users aren't going to spend the money for a server to run their antivirus protection. Most of my smaller clients are running Kaspersky Anti-virus which is the most cost effective solution I've been able to find for them. These small companies are always left on the sidelines when it comes to just about everything and they are a very large part of the market when taken together. It's the same thing with servers. I have some small clients who would be served perfectly with a more business oriented version of Home Server to handle their file storage and back up needs but there is just nothing out there. SBS is overkill for them as is any version of MS Server. It's a shame that MS tends to ignore this segment because there is a lot of money to be made there.
rr0de74@live.com
on Sep 29, 2009
rr0de74@live.com
on Sep 29, 2009
Well maybe not the last post....... With the announcement of the full release version of MSE - I was excited to try it. Microsoft Security Essentials Version: 1.0.1611.0 Antimalware Client Version: 2.0.6212.0 Engine Version: 1.1.5101.0 Antivirus definitions: 1.67.178.0 Antispyware definitions: 1.67.178.0 My trials so far..... MsMpEng.exe even in its latest version - is not happy with that old TWAIN loader - taking well over 30 secs on the third step... so NO improvement. placing Iedit (the parent PhotoImpact 8 program in the exclusion list helps as before) Start up - even on a restart MsMpEng.exe will still eat my PC with up to 99% CPU for over 1 min 30 sec - NO improvement (I do not have anything other than PhotoImpact in the exclusion list) Since installation just a couple of hours ago - I have already witnessed two unexpected and inexplicable up to 99% CPU by MsMpEng.exe for over 1 minute periods - NO improvement. Zip Repair Tool - manual scan of ZipRepairSetup.exe with MSE - takes 1 min 22secs with MSMpEng.exe at mostly 99% CPU - NO improvement Installation from clicking on Install button (after all the set up formalities and choices) - progress bar rises to over 90% almost immediately - but it took to 1:25 total elapsed time to full bar, and 2:25 to showing finished - then to 3:33 showing the application screen with MsMpEng.exe at 65% and the actual application taking up the rest so the CPU is at full100% and task manager even would show itself to be not responding..... MsMpEng.exe goes back up to 99% at 3:59 and remained there until I aborted it at 5 minutes - so NO improvement. I guess I can put all my exclusions back in and see if MsMpEng.exe behaves better on my PC - and an important caveat - this obviously is some incompatibility between MsMpEng.exe and my PC - and may be unique to my PC and might not apply to anyone else..... However the fact remains that this is the most active thread on this entire forum with 140 replies (more than any other thread) and with over 3,800 hits. and this isn't the only thread - CPU usage is High Excessive resource utilization (CPU) MsMpEng at reboot msmpeng.exe running at 95% cpu usage CPU usage maxxed out I am very disappointed that even the most obvious problems I was having does NOT seem to have had any improvement son my PC, as far as I can see, even in this latest final release.
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
@NNAL: Spybot S&D can and will conflict with MSE if you have TeaTimer running. Spybot is a horribly out-of-date piece of software though. They don't keep it up-to-date enough to keep up with modern malware. It might've been good maybe 5 years ago, but its time has come and gone. " I would get 80-100% CPU for about 30min after a reboot." The problem that I'm mentioning was perpetual, until you removed whatever MSMPENG program caused it. Uninstalling and reinstalling USUALLY solved it, but there were rare instances where it didn't. I'm guessing it was from an engine update, or some kind of corruption caused by a particular set of virus definitions. There were rare instances where people had OneCare installed where a daily update caused the service to turn off too. Mind you, the number of problems that occured from updates to various MSMPENG host applications were far fewer than updates that I've seen for Norton and McAfee. If you have problems with any MSMPENG host app, try uninstalling it, deleting the folder for it in Program Files, and reinstalling it. That should solve that problem as it did for me. "Very small businesses with under 25 users aren't going to spend the money for a server to run their antivirus protection." Yes and no. See next response. "Most of my smaller clients are running Kaspersky Anti-virus which is the most cost effective solution I've been able to find for them." The SBSC always seemed to prefer Trend Micro, which was the first company with a proper SBS-compatible solution for antimalware. It included a web-based management console, as well as deployment tools. It was good in theory, but the execution was lousy. I like FCS's approach, but the system requirements are too high IMHO. They need to think smaller when it comes to database requirements - fitting within the SBS maximum of 75 PC's would be a good start, running on the free SQL Express would be the next thing to look at. "I have some small clients who would be served perfectly with a more business oriented version of Home Server to handle their file storage and back up needs but there is just nothing out there." Home Server is supported for small businesses. It even works in an SBS domain if you need full PC backup with your SBS setup. " SBS is overkill for them as is any version of MS Server." It really depends on the business. SBS is a fine solution for many small businesses because it offers features that businesses are looking for, and also includes scalability for the future. Entirely cloud based solutions don't offer the same level of control, and often cost more than SBS + managed services to maintain the network. You don't get the benefit of a managed network environment either. Users shouldn't be in control of the IT environment - the IT department should be.
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
@rrode: It's likely a compatibility issue with some other service that's running. I'd usually see it on computers with a lot of miscellaneous third-party software installed, and this user is no exception. In the [very] rare circumstances where I couldn't fix the issue by completely removing and reinstalling the software, I'd recommend that they consider a backup and reformat (it's about 10x faster than trying to troubleshoot and pinpoint the exact cause). The program ALWAYS worked fine after that, so the answer lies somewhere in the additional software that was installed. Also, running Windows in diagnostic mode, except with the MSMPENG service and host app running would work fine too.
NoNameAtAll
on Sep 29, 2009
"Spybot S&D can and will conflict with MSE if you have TeaTimer running. Spybot is a horribly out-of-date piece of software though." Actually, MSE hasn't gone ballistic due to TeaTimer. It has practically ignored it, actually.
Balthazar9
on Sep 29, 2009
“Congratulations to the Microsoft Security Essentials team from an old OneCare PM. Nicely done, folks.” Self congratulatory vain platitudes for something that should have been a part of win’98 second edition. No doubt McAfee, Symantec, NOD32, Kaspersky, et al... are very concerned. “Most excellent. Can you run this *with* AVG, or will the two conflict?” Do you spend your days surfing nefarious sites? Why even bother with all these security crapware? Waethorn, why don’t you use a real browser to simply disable/enable JavaScript and plugins on the fly. Also, edit your hosts files, properly configure gpedit and you will never need clock hogging security apps. Better yet, use Linux baby.
techfan
on Sep 29, 2009
@Waethorn: True. I would manually update MSE if it wasn't using the latest defenitions, but since it is, I'll wait for the upgrade to be posted on MS Update. I want it now though ;-D
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
"Waethorn, why don’t you use a real browser to simply disable/enable JavaScript and plugins on the fly. Also, edit your hosts files, properly configure gpedit and you will never need clock hogging security apps. Better yet, use Linux baby." Because I only need to install the Forefront Client Security agent on my PC, all of my apps still work, as does my hardware (an Ion platform, which has no real support on Linux), and it doesn't slow down my PC. It's simple, and vastly more effective than Linux.
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
"I'll wait for the upgrade to be posted on MS Update. I want it now though ;-D" If the engine and defs are the same, what does the RTW really give you? Let's just give you an example of this: There's a lot of talk about people trying to install Exchange SP2 on SBS 2008 to keep it right up-to-date, but Microsoft hasn't made an SBS-friendly installer for Exchange SP2 yet, and the regular one breaks A LOT of stuff in SBS and requires LOTS of manual fixes and workarounds. So why not just wait for it and everything will be good in the end.
Backup77
on Sep 29, 2009
@Waethorn The main issue with Spybot S&D is you still have to manually update the definitions which by now they should have included an auto updater.
Backup77
on Sep 29, 2009
@Waethorn I iopened the MSE console then clicked help upgrade MSE and it did it all automatically. Under about it now shows Microsoft Security Essentials Version: 1.0.1611.0
Backup77
on Sep 29, 2009
Well done MIcrosoft for providing a light & fast anti-malware application that does not bother you every 5 mins with annoying popups.
techfan
on Sep 29, 2009
@Waethorn: True, again. I guess it's just one of those things about having the latest software, even though, technically, the latest software is already install.
Waethorn
on Sep 29, 2009
"The main issue with Spybot S&D is you still have to manually update the definitions which by now they should have included an auto updater." The big problem with TeaTimer is that if a piece of malware tries to install itself as a service or as a startup program, you'll have both MSE and TeaTimer fighting over which one controls whether or not the malware gets write access to those system components. Yes, Spybot doesn't have an auto-updater, but you an get it to check for updates on each launch. They just don't add modern malware to the definitions fast enough for it to be a reliable antimalware solution today. Thanks for the tip that MSE is upgrading itself. I'll wait and see when the upgrade is propogated to Microsoft Updates.
whiplash55
on Sep 29, 2009
Great news, I've been running the beta and have a high opinion of it. I hope the EU bureaucrats don't get their panties in a bunch over this one.

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