SuperSite Blog Daily Update: October 25, 2010

From the "not news" department: Microsoft Netherlands says Windows 8 will be out by 2012. Well, right. Well, Microsoft previously said they would ship new versions of Windows every three years, starting with Windows 7. Which came out in 2009. And 2009 + 3 is ... ? Hold the presses, people!

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Nintendo's Reggie Fils-Aime says that "Apple Can Hurt Us More Than Microsoft." Heads up, sir. Both companies are already kicking your a#$, Microsoft in the console business and Apple in the portable gaming business. Enjoy the number two spot for a while.

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Curious there are no stories about holding any one model of Windows Phone and it causes the antenna to stop working. None. Curious. It's hard not to imagine certain reviewers tried everything to make it happen, too. You know they did.

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And the best keeps getting better: Amazon announces that it will soon implement "lending for Kindle, a new feature that lets you loan your Kindle books to other Kindle device or Kindle app users." Additionally, the company will be "making Kindle newspapers and magazines readable on our free Kindle apps, so you can always read Kindle periodicals even if you don't have your Kindle with you or don't yet own a Kindle." Yay!

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Not all Apple-centric reviewers are immediately dismissive of Windows Phone, which is refreshing. Indeed, it's pretty clear that Andy Ihnatko gets it, which says a lot about the guy's credibility: "With Windows Phone 7, Microsoft has created the first really fresh and successful approach to a mobile platform since the iPhone. They’re competing with iOS and Android the same way Apple chose to compete with Blackberry, PalmOS and Windows Mobile in January of 2007: by not competing at all. They didn’t build a knockoff: they built something new." Exactly right. Thank you for looking at the product honestly.

That said, a few corrections. Most are not deadly.

"It's not a multitasking operating system." Actually, yes it is. Yes, most third party apps can't take advantage of that just yet. But most Windows Phone apps at least elegantly handle app switching and pick up right where they left off. This is, in short, a meaningless bit of pedantry that's sort of cheap (and typical) to bring up out of context. As far as users are concerned, the thing the things that matter all at once.

"There’s no cutting and pasting of text." True enough. But where's the mention of Microsoft's promise to deliver that feature by early 2011? Or any comment about the real-world need of this feature, and how often he really needs it, say, on his iPhone?

"Getting your personal data onto a Windows 7 Phone is damned-near impossible" ... from the PC only. Earlier in the review, he praises Windows Phone for being different. Part of being different is breaking with the past. It's time to stop using Outlook as the hub of your data. Windows Phone is a cloud phone. Not a 1990's PDA.

"If you’re in the market today for a new smartphone, no, I don’t think Windows Phone 7 handsets would be among your top-tier choice." I couldn't disagree more. :) Overall, a nice review, with lots of kind words ... and then a weird, bone to Apple right at the end. Ah well.

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And speaking of the Kindle (above), Amazon continues playing it cute by announcing another successful sales milestone without actually saying what it is.

The new generation Kindle devices are the fastest-selling Kindles of all time and the bestselling products on Amazon.com and Amazon.co.uk. Today, Amazon.com announced that sales of the new generation Kindle devices since their introduction have already surpassed total Kindle device sales from October through December 2009.

"It's still October and we've already sold more Kindle devices since launch than we did during the entire fourth quarter of last year,"said Steve Kessel, Senior Vice President, Amazon Kindle.

Neat. And how many Kindles is that exactly?

Discuss this Article 7

spivonious
on Oct 25, 2010

I would argue that Nintendo is after the casual gamer with the Wii (and is very successful as sales numbers indicate). The Xbox360 targets a very different market of "hardcore" gamers. Where Reggie's comment applies is in the portable market, where the iPhone is serious competition to the DS.

lotsamystuff
on Oct 25, 2010

Nice to see the Kindle finally catching up to the nook. The ability to lend and borrow (along with the "read in store" feature) is one of the reasons I bought the nook, and is one of its best features. Now if the publishers would get on board an expand the titles available for sharing, it'd be just about perfect.

Having said that, the new Kindle is pretty compelling. At least Amazon finally hired a designer, because the old version was butt-ugly. Still isn't compelling enough for me to trade in my nook, though.

chipwinter
on Oct 25, 2010

Pretty good news for Microsoft on Skynews this morning: A British survey of several thousand kids showed the Kinect console to be the fourth most wanted Christmas gift this holiday season. That's great mindshare for a new device.

Link: http://tinyurl.com/36mrf6a

gorath
on Oct 25, 2010

(cough) erm, maybe, just maybe, there's no reports of windows phone antenna problems yet because very few people have them yet. It took me three attempts at getting in touch with Vodafone today before anyone knew anything about the phones.

Just playing devil's advocate, that's all, wink wink nudge nudge, and all that.

yoshipod
on Oct 25, 2010

"Curious there are no stories about holding any one model of Windows Phone and it causes the antenna to stop working. None. Curious. It's hard not to imagine certain reviewers tried everything to make it happen, too. You know they did."

Well there were no stories about that happening with the iphone4 in the weeks PRECEDING its release.  In fact, it took a few weeks with 100,000's of iphones in the publics hands before this was reported.

Now, in mid November, once the phone is actually live, you may have a valid point.  But until then, its just a silly thing to write.

I am sure that there will be plenty of you-tube videos showing signal strength falling on many WP7 models, since you can make just about any phone signal degrade. You can find just about any model phone showing this behavior, albeit many not as bad as the iphone4

daveinla
on Oct 25, 2010

Kinect is an amazing technological tour-de-force I think. But IMO, it's like many features that MS is pushing because it's a technological show-off but it not necessarily good to the user in the end (think useless Vista/Win7 windows flipping, translucent bars in windows that make indentification of text and windows harder).

While Kinect will be great for sports / dance games, it will be limited for more mainstrean game by it's lack of precision and little lag. Imagine playing a platform or shooting game on that where you need absolute precision in space and time to play... I think Sony found the best compromise here that will suit most of the game with the Move. Precision of the direction / speed / diection with the gyroscopes and accelerometer, the stick in the other hand to move your cahracter for example and the camera for body movements or limb movements.

That's why I got a PS3 slim in the end (plus the fact that GT5 is coming out hopefully eventually... !!!!)

Dude1313
on Oct 26, 2010

Paul,

As far as Win7 phone goes I'm curious to see just how it fares. As unlike desktops, WinPhone7 has to earn its place through competition, sort of like MP3 players and we know how that turned out. I seem to recall an article you wrote calling the iPod the new pet rock... As much as you harp on Apple about their perceived or real flaws the are still crushing. As much as you cheer on Android (usually in direct relation to how well they are "dominating Apple"). The thing you don't acknowledge there is how much of Android's growth comes at the expense of WinPhone7? And how much will it be of WinPhone7 growth at the expense of Android? I have a feeling that those two will be cutting into each others sales rather then denting Apple.

Here's an entirely different idea regarding hubs: the metaphor of hubs is indeed different. However one wonders if its different for the sake of being different or the fact that the new OS will have next to no apps at launch compared to Apple or Google. Great way to hid that.

Also like it or not Win7 is coming into a market that is rapidly coalescing around Android and Apple. The fight for MS is with RIM and Palm for 3,4, and 5th respectively. This isn't 2007, and while the game isn't over MS is coming very late to the party.

I for one look forward to how this all plays out, should be interesting to watch. But I'd be highly surprised if MS gets very far with this revision. MS tendency to release the next version and the next to wear down competition doesn't work anymore and there is no one that phone industry that is interested in handing MS a monopoly this time around: in short they have to earn it.

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