Thank God for Ed Bott. Seriously.

You know, I've spent more time in this blog than I'm comfortable recently blasting so-called tech journalists who invent the news. But there's one guy out there who is consistently well-researched, and today he goes after pseudo-journalism in his own way. So it's nice to both allow someone else to take the reigns for a moment while being able to point to him as an example of someone who's doing it right. Ladies and gentlemen, I present Ed Bott:

Software licensing is often hard to understand. But that’s no excuse for so-called Windows experts to deliberately publish sensational stories that turn the facts upside-down.

I’m talking about the fuss that Scott Dunn and Brian Livingston kicked up in yesterday’s version of the Windows Secrets newsletter, in which Dunn breathlessly proclaimed the existence of an “upgrade hack” in Windows Vista that “allows end users to purchase the ‘upgrade edition’ and install it on any PC — with no need to purchase the more expensive ‘full edition.’”

I wrote about this way back in February 2007, when the same sources issued the same breathless reports. Nothing has changed since then. If you qualify for an upgrade license, this technique allows you to do a clean install, legally. If you don’t qualify for an upgrade license, then doing a clean install with this technique is technically possible but violates the terms of the license agreement. That distinction seems to be lost on the folks who are dredging up this old story.

Look, you can argue that Microsoft’s prices are inconsistent and illogical, but that has nothing to do with the issue at hand here. An upgrade license is intended to replace a previous license, period. Advising readers to violate the terms of a license agreement is pure sensationalism, and it’s wrong.

This needed to be written, and you should check out the whole post, especially if you're confused about what you can and cannot do, according to the Windows license.

Discuss this Article 8

Waethorn
on Apr 4, 2008
"Advising readers to violate the terms of a license agreement is pure sensationalism, and it’s wrong." Um, not to sound like a jerk here Paul, but why is it that you recommend those codec packs that contain codecs that are either pirated, or contain unlicensed intellectual property (such as those that contain unlicensed MP3 codecs, or Quicktime Alternative)? Free-Codecs.com is the site I'm referring to - most of what they have posted is illegal.
brandon.pope
on Apr 4, 2008
That is neither here nor there. Its funny Paul, no matter what you talk about, you get some kind of criticism. You have a tough job. What is funny is that the statement above is a quote fro Ed Bott, and you take the heat. Ed makes a good point regardless.
BrightrevCarl
on Apr 4, 2008
Here's the silliest part of this whole thing. On Newegg.com, Windows Vista Ultimate OEM, which is legal to use on a single PC, is $170. Windows Vista Ultimate Upgrade, which is NOT legal to use without an upgrade, is $200. I don't believe you can legally transfer the OEM copy to another computer, but it DOES cost less.
johnhe
on Apr 4, 2008
It goes without saying that an upgrade version of the OS should not be installed unless one owns a qualifying product. But Microsoft created a situation in which a backdoor method of doing a clean install using an upgrade version was needed because they have not addressed the very common scenario of upgrade users needing to do a clean install after a hard drive crash or other serious problem. To suggest that someone buying an upgrade would need to first re-install XP or 2K in order to get a working system after a major system crash is just ridiculous. During the initial upgrade process, the Vista setup program should generate a key that the upgrade user could print out and then use later to do a clean install if it was necessary to restore the OS on the upgraded machine. This would have required only a few hours of work by a single developer but would have saved many thousands of upgrade users many hours of effort to get their computer working again after a system crash. I know this would not be hard to implement because I wrote both the clean install and upgrade install Setup programs for the Microsoft MS-DOS 5 and was a development lead for the Windows 95 clean install and upgrade install Setup programs.
Waethorn
on Apr 5, 2008
"I don't believe you can legally transfer the OEM copy to another computer, but it DOES cost less." It's also illegal to buy an OEM System Builder copy unless you are, in fact, an OEM System Builder, and the copy is for resale with a fully assembled computer, to an end-user that is not also you. The System Builder License Agreement also states that you aren't allowed to preinstall the operating system without using the OEM Preinstallation Kit, which is included in multi-packs of 3 or more (the OPK is not included in single packs, but you CAN download it from the OEM System Builder website, which you have to register for, in order to get access). If you talk to Microsoft licensing agents, they will tell you that these "wholesalers" are getting away with breaking the terms of Microsoft's own licensing policies by allowing public sales to end-users, but Microsoft Corporate puts them on a low-priority for license noncompliancy list. They'd rather target stores that are actively counterfeiting copies than target stores that are selling legal product against the wording of the defined license agreement. I might point out that Newegg is NOT in fact an Authorized Microsoft Distributor, so System Builders shouldn't be buying from them anyway. Real distributors only sell to resellers, because most require the proper paperwork for retail tax-exclusion status. By comparison, eBay doesn't allow the sale of separate OEM System Builder products unless they are included with a fully assembled computer system.
DRWAM
on Apr 5, 2008
Waethorn, I messed with my Vista install just for you. I got Ultimate and the Mac Pro Tower booted right from the DVD and installed without Bootcamp, although Bootcamp had originally created the partition, and Vista formatted it to NTFS. During the installation the typical "Bootcamp" volume title was not shown, so I think it was real. The install DVD has an EFI file, so that is probably why it booted from the DVD. Further indications is that there are errors noted during startup of the other volumes, I assume because they are Mac formatted. As noted on the internet, the Pro Tower still only sees 2GB [I have 4GB] of RAM, this does not happen with the MBP laptop. Utimate is similar to Home Premium, at first glance, and runs very smoothy. I am using it right now. One note is that installing using Bootcamp went fine during the several restarts, but without Bootcamp, it would restart into Leopard. Installation resumed when I restarted again and used the option key to choose Windows. I may give Nero a try and make a DVD. Last time that I did, I could not tell much difference from iDVD, and it had fewer steps, but I never edit, and I made no chapters with NERO. More info in the future. Doc
Waethorn
on Apr 5, 2008
"I got Ultimate and the Mac Pro Tower booted right from the DVD and installed without Bootcamp, although Bootcamp had originally created the partition, and Vista formatted it to NTFS. During the installation the typical "Bootcamp" volume title was not shown, so I think it was real." The key thing that I wanted to know about was if the Mac's older EFI is compatible with Windows Vista SP1's UEFI support, but ok. Do you have an x64 copy with SP1 integrated (only SP1 supports UEFI)? If it's an x86 (32-bit) copy (SP1 or not), then your EFI is just booting into BIOS mode. The following is the proper way to test if the Windows Vista SP1 will work natively with the Mac's EFI without Boot Camp, and running in native 64-bit mode: 1) Boot off the Windows DVD 2) On the first prompt (which should be the language selection prompt), don't click anything with the mouse, but hit Shift-F10 instead. This will bring up a command prompt window over top of the aforementioned language setup. 3) Type the following, hitting Enter after each command: diskpart select disk 0 clean convert gpt exit exit Note: The first "exit" exits out of diskpart, and the second will exit the command prompt. 4) Reboot your machine, and boot back off of the DVD. I don't know how the Mac's EFI switches modes, but I know that many PC systems won't allow UEFI mode to work properly unless the system detects a GPT-converted disk during Power On Self Test. It has something to do with the way the UEFI enumerates the disk, so that's why I say to do this. Don't worry about not shutting stuff down properly - at this point, if all succeeded, your hard drive should be empty, and it doesn't matter if you reboot while you're in the DVD setup as it won't hurt anything. 5) Proceed with the installation as normal. 6) When in Windows Vista, click the Start Button, then right-click on Computer, and select "Manage". Click "Continue" on the UAC prompt. 7) You will now see the Computer Management console. Click on Disk Management on the left. 8) You should see "Disk 0" in the lower half of the screen to the right. If you see small EFI and MSR partitions before your normal data partition then your system successfully booted in native x64 mode, complete with GPT disk support. Note: To also confirm it, you can also right-click on the Disk 0 box, and click Properties, then click the Volumes tab, which will display the "Partition Style" as "Master Boot Record (MBR)" or "GUID Partition Table (GPT)". GPT confirms that Windows Vista SP1's UEFI support is backward compatible with the Mac's EFI. If that doesn't work, or you can still boot off of OS X, then your Mac EFI isn't supported, and it's hiding the OS X GPT partitions and/or detecting a Windows boot disc and switching to BIOS emulation mode automatically. "I may give Nero a try and make a DVD. Last time that I did, I could not tell much difference from iDVD" Windows Vista's built-in software is called Windows DVD Maker. Also included is Windows Movie Maker HD. Sony DVD Architect Studio (and Vegas Movie Studio) are better programs than any of those though.
DRWAM
on Apr 6, 2008
I'll see if I can get my hands on a DVD.

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