The magic of wishful thinking ... Windows 7 edition?

Virtually everyone who has used the Windows 7 RC has come away with positive reactions, especially concerning performance. And few would question the fact that Windows 7 runs acceptably on even low-end netbook hardware, a la Windows XP, but unlike Windows Vista. And yet, now that we have the first credible performance benchmarks in from PC World, some doubt has been cast on these claims. Is Windows 7 really appreciably faster than its predecessor?

Improving performance is one of Microsoft's design goals with Windows 7, and many early reviewers (including ours) have said that the new OS seems peppier than Vista. But tests of the Windows 7 Release Candidate in the PC World Test Center found that while Windows 7 was slightly faster on our WorldBench 6 suite, the differences may be barely noticeable to users.

We loaded the Windows 7 Release Candidate on three systems (two desktops and a laptop) and then ran our WorldBench 6 suite. Afterward we compared the results with the WorldBench 6 numbers from the same three systems running Windows Vista. Each PC was slightly faster when running Windows 7, but in no case was the overall improvement greater than 5 percent, our threshold for when a performance change is noticeable to the average user.

If these test results remain consistent with those for the final version of Windows 7, the news will likely be disappointing to many Windows users.

I guess so. But the thing is, benchmarks don't measure real world performance. What I'd like to see is how real-world tasks--boot-up, resume from sleep, how long it takes from button click to application launch (and under different loads), and so on--really compare between the two OSes. I'd continue this discussion, but ... oh, my. There's something moving in the tall grass. And it might just be Bigfoot! I'm off...

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Waethorn
on May 8, 2009
@slim: I'm calling your bluff. I personally know someone that works in an office west of Toronto and says you're full of sh*t. He uses Windows Vista on a daily basis.
mikegalos@msn.com
on May 8, 2009
slime So now you're putting the contradictions into one post to make it easier to see that you can't keep your story straight? In just that post you said your "first experience with Vista" was in early 2007 and not more than a few sentences later you claim you were using it as part of this "pilot" from May 2006. I'm pretty sure that May 2006 was before "early 2007" even in your world. Perhaps you were in the pilot without actually having any experiences with the product somehow and thus didn't get your "first experience" during those eight months? It's really amazing when somebody can't even keep their story straight for more than a few sentences at a time. Here's a helpful hint, if you aren't able to keep your stories straight, stick with the truth if only because it's easier to remember.
mikegalos@msn.com
on May 8, 2009
Wae Actually, there's a Case Study on how Enterprise upgraded their intranet to SharePoint 2007, their email to Exchange 2007 and their client OS to Windows Vista available at http://www.microsoft.com/casestudies/casestudy.aspx?casestudyid=201038 I think that proves that your bluff calling was quite correct.
slimshadey
on May 8, 2009
I can give you phone numbers of people if you want? The corporate office is in the town I live in. Anything outside of that town is nothing but a rental branch or a small admin office supporting rental branches. So your Toronto connection is full of shit plain and simple. We use Terminal servers/wyse thin clients in all branches, in fact we have the largest terminal server farm in the US. The terminal servers were upgraded to 2008 last year. in 2008 we went to office 2007, we use Sharepoint 2007 for our corporate Intranet which has mostly replace our file servers. A few people in the field have computers running XP. All users at corporate run XP on PC's or on VDI. No one outside of the desktop deployment team might have Vista (for testing) and I think even they dont use it anymore. Our CIO and a few other executives use OS X and TS into a XP VDI. I dont give a rats @$$ what the paper says we DONT use Vista and anyone in Toronto does not know SHAT because all IT at corporate. Maybe that person is delirious from washing cars in his white shirt and tie in the spring heat? Mike here is the exact text from my first post... "My first experience with Vista was beta 2/RC/early 2007. It was a pig, had compatibility problems, SUPER slow copy speeds, just did weird *** whenever. I gave up personally around October of 2007." How effing stupid are you? Maybe some ESL (English as a Second Language) classes??? My first experience was with Vista in the pilot. It went from Beta 2 to Jan 07. Should I type slower for you? I then used it on my new home PC and STOPPED using it at work when the pilot closed down. Brother you are dense, really dense.
slimshadey
on May 8, 2009
From you link Mike, the only thing that "case study" says about Vista is this... "As of November 2006, Enterprise has upgraded a cross-section of IT department users to Windows Vista". Yep just like I said in my original post "My first experience with Vista was beta 2/RC/early 2007". So in November 2006 we were either using a RC or early version of the final code, and we were near the end of the pilot. Final code was delivered to Enterprise Customers in December of 2006, a month before the public and non-Enterprise customers could get it.
gorath
on May 8, 2009
What is so hard to follow about slim's story? I just don't get it, Mike, and Wae, you need to go get some air or something.
Waethorn
on May 8, 2009
@"slim": The person that I know personally met Kennedy, the CIO, in 2000 down in Jersey for an IT seminar. @mike: This guy reeks of Lindy, who never posts on here anymore.
robertsjoe
on May 8, 2009
The Windows (and Microsoft tax) is much greater than that of Apple's. It's well known to anyone that runs Windows machines. Especially if you use it in business.
Waethorn
on May 8, 2009
robertsjoe
on May 8, 2009
"benchmarks don't measure real world performance" That's the line Microsoft always uses when their stuff is slower. Same thing they said in their recent web browser "tests". They didn't even include Safari which would make them look even slower.
robertsjoe
on May 8, 2009
@waethorn: Nothing will come of that. They are not evil. Unlike convicted monopolist, Microsoft. Don't forget that not only were they convicted by the DOJ, they also have been and are still being pursued by the EU.
chuckb84
on May 8, 2009
@waethorn, Once more, gently, ""A tax is involuntary" I'll let the IRS know you feel that way." A tax IS involuntary, but the IRS doesn't care so long as I pay. (And, with a nod to Mike....I really don't mind, since by global standards USA taxes are quite low, at least compared with any other country I would ever want to live in.) The difference is clear from the little check box to designate $1 for election financing. THAT is not a tax, because I decide whether or not to pay it. So, the phrase Apple "tax" is quite wrong, as is calling the price for spyware, crapware removal, the Win7 upgrade cost from the the abortive Vista, the ongoing "upgrade" prices for Microsoft Office 2010 November Edition Enterprise Ultimate Premium Media Package, etc, as "taxes". I don't have to pay for those things; I choose to pay for the ones I decide I want, so none of them are taxes. We can compare COSTS, but the use of the word tax is silly and everyone here realizes that.
lotsamystuff
on May 9, 2009
Wae waves his threatening finger and says "I'll let the IRS know you feel that way" (re: "Taxes are involunatary") Go ahead. Since when is a tax NOT involuntary? Do YOU have a choice of paying or not paying your PST, HST, GST, etc. in your beloved Canada? Taxes are involuntary. Big news. The IRS doesn't care one bit that I "feel that way". Now go back to your basement and play with your kitty, Wae.

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