The New Mac Mini

So I'm not one of those compulsive Apple blogger guys, obviously, but ... my God. Have you seen the new Mac mini? It's just gorgeous looking. I need to check one out in person, but I suspect that I'll just be more impressed when that happens. I mean, look at this thing.

I'm a big fan of simplicity and noise-free computing, and this looks like some kind of high-water mark for design. It even has a decent and logical assortment of ports for the first time (including HDMI and SD, though I'm not clear why anyone would want Firewire 800 on an entry-level machine). It supports up to 8 GB of RAM. Has decent processors. And 802.11n.

There's only one problem with this thing that I can see--it starts at a too-high $699, or about $200 more than I think it's worth. (And while I love Apple's hardware, I couldn't care less about Mac OS X. I would wipe that out immediately.) But they've gotten the hardware design just right here. And unlike the previous Mac mini versions, which required a spatula-type tool to remove the lid to get at the memory, this one has a nice looking removable panel on the bottom that provides instant access to the guts you need to access. Like so:



Classic. I don't need a new PC right now, and I certainly can't afford to spend that much money, especially for something unnecessary. But this speaks to the heart of what makes Apple's products so popular, I think. It doesn't matter what makes sense. You just want one.

Must resist.

Discuss this Article 23

wlow3
on Jun 15, 2010
Who are you, and what have you done with Paul Thurrott?
spivonious
on Jun 15, 2010
I agree the price is too high, and the specs are a little dated. I would have loved to see an i3 or i5 inside instead of an old C2D. If Apple included the i3, a blu-ray drive, and priced it under $500, this would be a hit with the HTPC crowd.
pollycat
on Jun 15, 2010
Yup, too expensive for what you get, starting at $499 would see these fly off the shelves. Wonder if you can also get fairly easy access to the hard drive for later upgrades? In some ways, the "server" edition looks interesting - two 500GB drives and no optical drive, with the option of adding an external one later. But again, way too expensive still.
pthurrott
on Jun 15, 2010
LOL, well. I've always been a fan of Apple hardware. I try to bottle that up, of course. :) With regards to the hw, I'm OK with Core 2 Duo on a low-end machine, but my ideal Mac mini would dispense with the SuperDrive (a la the server version) and put the SD slot plus two addition USB ports on the front instead. A single hard drive would be fine for starters. But again, this should cost less than $500. And that's always the sticking point with Apple stuff. It's just too expensive. But my goodness. That thing is beautiful.
stimshady
on Jun 15, 2010
Is it really that beautiful? Looks kinda like a curved brick with an apple logo on top of it and a hole in the side. it reminds me of a giant coaster.
clindhartsen
on Jun 15, 2010

I saw this up on Engadget this morning, and it does admittedly look amazing, just surprised it doesn't have on of the i3/5/7 set of processors, but I suppose you're right about it being an intro product.

On a side tangent, did Apple used to show this as an example for television use? They show it in front of a PC showing a movie in one of the preview shot on the site.

If I was in need of an upgrade, this would work for me, but I'm sadly not, so I'll just stare and wish my Gateway looked this cool,.

Ocean
on Jun 15, 2010
"starting at $499 would see these fly off the shelves" One thing thats impressed me about Apple is their ability to forecast their market. Whoever they're aiming at, I'd bet these fly off the shelves regardless of the price.
roblind
on Jun 15, 2010

Yes, this an impressive looking design in keeping with Apple's "keep making 'em thinner" mantra. I noticed that they've also done away with the external power brick and built the power supply into the unit.

So, in keeping again with Apple's "keep making 'em run hotter" tradeoff, I can't help but wonder what thermal dissipation is going to be like on this thing. They claim it runs with very little power consumption but I would like to touch one (or maybe not) after its been running for an hour. On the other hand, it might make a great heating coaster for your coffee mug!

rr0de74@live.com
on Jun 15, 2010

I agree great looking box but about $200 over what is should be.

I have two of the last version (9400m video card), One runs Windows Home Server (silent, low power) with FW 800 external drives (wish it had eSATA).

The other runs Windows 7 64bit just fine, and with out any OS X partition at all.

That said since moving back from OS X (mostly) to Windows 7 I wont buy another Mini because of the price.

Dell or HP need to really come up with something that is really close, use plastic and lower the price.  There is a market for this, as computers that play demanding games and as a media center device.

rr0de74@live.com
on Jun 15, 2010

@clindhartsen in the Mac world Mini's have been used ad media center PC's for a while now.  It has quite the following.  

You add Eye TV...

www.elgato.com/.../products.en.html

and Plex

http://www.plexapp.com/

and you have a really nice setup.  This new box with N wireless, and HDMI really helps out.

Dipsh t Admin
on Jun 15, 2010

"Whoever they're aiming at, I'd bet these fly off the shelves regardless of the price."

Well, the Mac Mini has never flown off the shelves.  I don't think this iteration will change that, no matter how nice it looks.

And yes, it does look pretty sweet, and would look great in my living room.  However, at that price, plus the cost of a Windows 7 license to get Media Center would make this quite an expensive proposition for such limited hardware specs.  But it does look nice.  Placing the SD card slot and two additional USB ports in front would also make it very nice, but would ruin the iAesthetic.

Dipsh t Admin
on Jun 15, 2010

"Dell or HP need to really come up with something that is really close, use plastic and lower the price."

Dell does.  The Studio Hybrid and Zinio HD provide these features, although a similarly specced Studio Hybrid will only be about $50 less, although you can almost certainly get that cheaper without much effort.  They should be refreshing them soon so I expect a spec boost.

yoshipod
on Jun 15, 2010

Sorry but you really can't sell this at $499 as so many want.

iSuppli estimated the material cost of the prior mac mini at $384. That machine sold for $599 meaning a 36% gross margin.  Applying that same margin to the new version means the cost to build a mac mini is over $450.  This does not include any software or anything but the components and cost to assemble.  Since so many don't want to run OS X, lets add in the cost of a Windows 7 Home Premium license.  Most estimates are that major OEMs like HP and Dell pay Microsoft about $50 for that.  Buying your own OEM license is going to cost about $100.

So that means the cost is $500.  That does not include any expenses associated with developing this product, marketing or selling it, let alone any profit.

If you want a sub $500 computer, you have to start cutting corners. This means a lower end processor, slower RAM, and an enclosure that is nowhere near as nice or small, with the power brick on the outside.

LC21
on Jun 15, 2010
Using a putty knife to crack the case was very exciting. Good times.
MacLawyer
on Jun 15, 2010

Looks nice but I always worry about heat issues in an enclosure that small.  One of the reasons I use Minis instead of iMacs is that my previous iMacs had heat related problems.  Previous Minis had plenty of room for ventilation. Now we see the internals of the Mini stuffed into an even smaller enclosure.

Paul....I think *I* can resist.  At least for now.

gorath
on Jun 15, 2010

I don't get it. It's a plain white box with an apple logo on it, why is that "gorgeous looking"?

I don't like fancy LEDs and flashing lights, but as a piece of design, that is incredibly dull.

Backup77
on Jun 15, 2010

Its a sweet looking device and goodness knows the mac mini was overdue for a refresh. The firewire port is a waste, a couple of USB 2.0\3.0 ports would have been more useful. The bump in memory is handy.

MorituriMax
on Jun 15, 2010

I've been wanting to get into coding apps for the iPad/iPhone.

Would this be enough of a machine to run all the software to write apps?  If not or if this is too much, what would be the basic apple system required for doing app software?

Thanks, and yes, this thing IS gorgeous.. wow.

as40347
on Jun 15, 2010

I'm happy to pay more for the nicer hardware.   I've never seen anything this nice in a small package from the Windows OEMs.   This will be great for my kid's computer in the living room.  Replacing a 9 year old Gateway that runs XP.  Since it has HDMI,  I plan to occasionally use this to stream on the new Samsung LED.  Perhaps WW!

Waethorn
on Jun 15, 2010

To anyone that says that Apple stuff is worth it, I have something to say:

$900 for a 24" monitor.  

Let me repeat that:  24 inches.  $900 FREAKING DOLLARS!

That is all.

meeyou
on Jun 16, 2010

Too pricy for me - but I guess that is half the appeal to the target market

Grannyville
on Jun 16, 2010

My God that looks awesome.

I've been wanting a Mac Mini to install Windows 7 on and hook it up to my TV with Windows Media Center. Now I want it more with the new design.

Why Apple had nothing to say about this during WWDC keynote puzzles me.

yoshipod
on Jun 16, 2010

"Dell does.  The Studio Hybrid and Zinio HD provide these features, although a similarly specced Studio Hybrid will only be about $50 less, although you can almost certainly get that cheaper without much effort.  They should be refreshing them soon so I expect a spec boost."

So where are all the cries about Dell overcharging?  Since as you pointed out a similarly specced machine is only about $50 less, shouldn't Paul and the others be constantly complaining and saying those machines are overpriced by $150?

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