Will Success, or All That Money From Google, Spoil Firefox?

Generally speaking, holidays (today is Veterans Day in the US) are slow news days. So imagine my surprise when I cracked open The New Yorks Times this morning at the kitchen table and discovered a number of interesting stories. Granted, none of them were strictly news stories per se, but this was the most interesting to me because it peripherally relates to something I've been concerned about lately:

Only a couple of years ago, Firefox was the little browser that could — an open-source program created by thousands of contributors around the world without the benefit of a giant company like Microsoft to finance it.

Since then, Firefox, which has prospered under the nonprofit Mozilla Foundation, has grown to be the largest rival to Microsoft’s Internet Explorer, with 15 to 20 percent of the browser market worldwide and higher percentages in Europe and among technology devotees. It is the most popular alternative browser since Netscape.

In trying to build on this success, the Mozilla Foundation has come to resemble an investor-backed Silicon Valley start-up more than a scrappy collaborative underdog ... The foundation has used a for-profit subsidiary, the Mozilla Corporation, to collect tens of millions of dollars in royalties from search engine companies that want prominent placement on the browser. And by collecting that money as a war chest to compete against giants like Microsoft and Apple, the foundation has, at least temporarily, moved away from the typical activities of a nonprofit organization.

According to Mozilla’s 2006 financial records, which were recently released, the foundation had $74 million in assets, the bulk invested in mutual funds and the like, and last year it collected $66 million in revenue. Eighty-five percent of that revenue came from a single source — Google, which has a royalty contract with Firefox.

Despite that ample revenue, the Mozilla Foundation gave away less than $100,000 in grants (according to the audited statement), or $285,000 (according to Mozilla itself), in 2006. In the same year, it paid the corporation’s chief executive, Mitchell Baker, more than $500,000 in salary and benefits. (She is also chairwoman of the foundation.)

Ms. Baker says it was the community, not Google’s money, that made Firefox a player in the field. “Mozilla is successful because we have this giant set of people who care about it,” she said. “The fundamental infrastructure piece that keeps Mozilla independent from even a single source of income like Google is the diverse set of people.”

Hmm. Perhaps. There are signs, however, that Mozilla's success has led to the same kinds of problems that have dogged IE over the years. It's gotten much larger and much, much slower. And I can now confirm that the browser leaks memory like an 80's-era DOS app, regardless of whether you're using any extensions or not. I'm excited for the future--the Vista-look Firefox 3 mock-ups I've seen look incredible. But there's this sense that the fundamentals aren't being addressed here. Why in this day and age does any modern application leak memory like Firefox does? If I leave this thing running, on any system, and come back a few hours later, it can easily be consuming 500 MB or more of RAM. The only option to close down all the Firefox windows and restart. That's ridiculous.

I love Firefox and wish the parent company (and the people who work on this wonderful product) nothing but success. But they need to address some very real problems here before people begin defecting back to IE. (And no, Opera and Safari are not options, sorry.) I've already begun experimenting more with IE 7 lately for this very reason. I don't want to go back, I really don't. But I should be able to leave a browser window open and not think about it. Obviously.

Discuss this Article 7

rickhuizinga
on Nov 12, 2007
I just switched back to IE7 on Friday because of the memory leak issue. One of my PC's is limited to 512MB of RAM (its a UMPC, and cannot be upgraded). The memory leak issue was huge on this machine, grinding it a halt when the Firefox memory leak becomes excessive. The other reason for moving back to IE7 was the "Send to OneNote" feature for IE7 works much better than the "Print to OneNote" feature from Firefox. Some observations when making the switch: 1) I used Google Browser Sync for Firefox to keep the bookmarks on all my machine in sync. For IE7, there are two options: 1a) Zinkmo - syncs bookmarks between IE7 & Firefox between machines running XP & Vista 1b) Vista & Home Server - If all your machines are running Vista, you can re-locate the Favorites folder on each Vista machine to a share on the Home Server. All your machines will share the same Favorites. You can even use Offline Files & Folders for mobile machines for offline use too! 2) I use the ieSpell add-in to perform inline spell checking in text entry boxes to mimic the similar Firefox feature. 3) I use the Inline Search v1.3 add-in to replace IE7's modal search dialog with a search bar on the bottom of the screen, again similar to Firefox's search feature.
pthurrott
on Nov 12, 2007
There's a third option: The Windows Live Toolbar for IE has a feature like that on the Google Toolbar for Firefox that lets you store all your Favorites up in the cloud, so they'll be the same on each machine. (Actually, the Google Toolbar for IE probably does this too.)
rickhuizinga
on Nov 12, 2007
I looked into the toolbar option (Live, Google, Yahoo, etc.), but I'm not a big fan of the amount of screen real-estate these toolbars consume. I guess I'm a minimalist...
DRWAM
on Nov 12, 2007
I only use IE on my PC's since Spybot S&D shows that it automatically blocks for it, so I assume that it does not block for anything else. My group can't use IE 7 until the hospital upgrades GE's proprietary PACS software [Centricity]. It's a shame as many had Express Install automatically install IE & which was not compatible, so they had to uninstall it with a little misery. The hospital is waiting for more backup servers before they roll out the upgrade, so several have been holding out for Vista since it comes with IE7. Those Bozo's better hurry up and upgrade.
Cfischer83
on Nov 12, 2007
This is exactly why I use IE at work (besides it being the standard for my company of course)... IE is as zippy as notepad, but Firefox is longer than Outlook, Dreamweaver, Fireworks or any other app I use!
benjwah
on Nov 12, 2007
And has anyone noticed that sometimes, for whatever reason, firefox just locks up your CPU? On my dual-core laptop, sometimes the computer just starts running slow. I check Task Manager and it says that one core is on 100% and the other stays normal(ish) and Firefox is taking up 50% (or one whole core I guess). I've also had the same problem with my mother's Pentium, where the whole CPU is locked up at 100% and guess who's the culprit? "firefox.exe" It doesn't seem to be caused by any particular site so I have no idea how it happens. I remember Leo Laporte saying something in passing about it in a podcast. Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Waethorn
on Nov 13, 2007
"And has anyone noticed that sometimes, for whatever reason, firefox just locks up your CPU?" Any site with Flash? The more recent versions of Flash seem to be fairly unstable under different browsers. Often it looks like the browser that's hung, but sometimes appcrash event logs show that it was the Flash ActiveX or plugin that caused it. I've had it happen a few times before with IE7, Firefox, and Opera in different situations.

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