Windows 7 to support third-party codecs… like all other Windows versions

Rafael obtains a quote from Microsoft about a recent erroneous report. (No, not that one. Not yet):

In a typical inaccuracy-laden FUD-like fashion, Gizmodo ran a story on March 26th regurgitating some rumblings from Damien Bain-Thouverez, a ffdshow (Tryout fork) developer, indicating that Windows 7 may block the use of third-party codecs (those small voodoo pieces of software that let you watch your illegally downloaded Bluray rips).

The thought of Microsoft moving to alienate its bajillion users by blocking the use of third-party codecs in Windows 7 Windows Media Player (and its wrapper Windows Media Center) is insanely ridiculous. While Microsoft usually remains silent on issues that arise in unofficial builds, they made an exception to my inquiry (due to the inaccuracies floating around) and had this to say:

"As we move toward the release of Windows 7, we have worked to add more codecs and file types to allow for a better user experience. We also allow Microsoft experiences to use codecs and other format technologies from third-party companies, just as we always have.  Third party applications can use the Microsoft codecs or their own.  Microsoft does not restrict the use of third-party codecs."

So there you go. :)

Discuss this Article 11

matt.brown
on Apr 3, 2009
Native blu-ray support would be a nice touch, especially in Windows Media Center. Ohs wells.
trieste
on Apr 3, 2009
A blog post about a blog post about a blog post? As a 'Microsoft experience' I object to this lazyness. Just to note that as of the present build they do block third party codecs i.e Damien indicated this “blocking” behavior occurs in Windows 7 build 7057. A blog writing something stupid to drive traffic? I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked! (See! I told you I was shocked) I must go now, some Microsoft experiences need some help.
Dr. Tone
on Apr 3, 2009
Paul the only problem with this official statement is: "Third party applications can use Microsoft codecs or their own" The problem Damien Bain-Thouverez has is that Microsoft application don't let you use Third party codecs.
weedmonk
on Apr 3, 2009
Speaking of Gizmodo they've been on tear since those new I'm a PC commercials came out. It's funny seeing they rally the fanboi's.
kenmcnamee
on Apr 3, 2009
I've had no problems installing ffdshow, k-lite or CCCP on any Win7 build thus far. I've also installed it on my buld 7057 Media Center PC and watch downloaded XVID and MKV TV shows on it every night. No issues whatsoever using WMP, WMC or Media Player Classic with ffdshow tweaks or DirectVobSub. So, the Gizmodo story is complete and utter crap.
Dipsh t Admin
on Apr 3, 2009
"No, not that one. Not yet" Huh? Am I missing something here?
kenmcnamee
on Apr 3, 2009
Doing a little more testing I can't confirm that WMP is using ffdshow. It does use Haali Media Splitter but I'm not sure that technically counts as a codec. If Microsoft media apps don't let you use third-party codecs then I personally don't see the big deal. As long as you can still install them and use third-party media applications without a problem then there is no issue in my opinion.
Dr. Tone
on Apr 3, 2009
If you go on the doom forums you'll see that mkv doesn't have the issue because it isn't natively supported by the OS. I'm happy about that because everything I have is MKV. In all honesty if the microsoft codecs/filters do their job I usually use them any way. Since Vista SP1 the microsoft MPEG decoder has been greatly improved. I'm interested to see how this all turns out as Microsoft apps slowly gets closer to using Media Foundation completely instead of directshow. That's another can of worms the ffdshow developers are going to have to start addressing sooner then later.
Raf
on Apr 3, 2009
@kenmcnamee: Windows Media Player's revamped UI makes in-use codec identification an impossible task. The best way to test whether or not ffdshow is being used is to load the ffdshow control panel and enable OSDs, like FPS, time, etc. Upon opening Windows Media Player, you won't see any change.
kenmcnamee
on Apr 3, 2009
Raf: I enabled the tray icon for ffdshow when it's active. Opening an AVI in Media Player Classic shows the icon but doing the same in WMP does not. If I open a MKV file in WMP then the ffdshow icon still doesn't display but the tray icon for the Haali splitter does.
subzerohitman721
on Apr 3, 2009
Gizmodo, More fud artistry from the Apple biased media. I think their credibility is somewhere between Bill Clinton's and Dick Chaney's.

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