Windows Home Server "Vail" Leak

I have no idea why, but I'm very excited to hear about this.

Sounds interesting, I think.

and EricoF3 tries to start something with the Mac and Linux fans

@EricoF3 Microsoft's quarterly announcement was indeed really good. That said, comparing MS's total revenue growth to another companies product growth is really isn't relevant. That would be like comparing Apple's overall revenue to Zune sales. They simply are not comparable as one is counting dollars made across multiple business lines and the other is the number of widgets sold in one business line. Both companies had great quaters

If anybody was building an ultra-cheap PC and wanted it to work with Server 2008 R2 (for the next WHS), take a look at AMD's new Sempron 100 series processors. They're single core, but they're far faster than the minimum 2.0GHz requirement for Server 08 R2, and you shouldn't need a dual-core processor for the next WHS. Newegg has a Sempron 140 for $33US, and an ECS AM3 micro ATX motherboard for all of $32 after mail-in rebate. Add a case, RAM, and most importantly, your hard drive[s].

ModernDislocation said: "That said, comparing MS's total revenue growth to another companies product growth is really isn't relevant. That would be like comparing Apple's overall revenue to Zune sales. They simply are not comparable as one is counting dollars made across multiple business lines and the other is the number of widgets sold in one business line." Hep! sorry but I don't compare total revenue of MS with another company product growth!! I compare Mac Sales versus Windows 7 sales!!! This is quit relevant!! Because each Windows version sold means one less Mac sold.

NoNameAtAll said: "Why, oh why must SOMEONE try to start something? Y'know? Every OS has its advantages and disadvantages." Right!!! The only thing I try to do is to show how Apple and Apple fan are twisted because they insinuated that Apple are the genius of the crisis by had a 33% Mac sales growth... And They are genius because they will release a iTampax waowwww... And while Apple masturbe intellectualy himself, Microsoft them, have a 70 % increase in sales Window 7 for a total of 60 % of the revenue increase total... And during this time, Apple makes laugh at him with his iTampax... Good intellectual masturbation Apple and Apple fanboys...

Home Server Done right... http://www.synology.com/us/products/ds210j/index.php

"This is quit relevant!! Because each Windows version sold means one less Mac sold." Not necessarily. If you count the Mac users that run Windows, each sale could mean there's one more Mackie hypocrit out there. "I'm considering getting a nettop with a dual core Atom and Ion" Make sure you have a wireless N network too, and not the new, lame N 150Mbps standard. 300Mbps wireless N was designed for HD video streaming. Using WMM support on your router also helps. An Atom 330 still isn't that great of a processor either. If you wanted to do other stuff on the computer, it's not that great (has better options for web browsing than alternatives though). Hell, you could use a PS3 with Windows Media Connect on WHS, and download videos to the PS3 hard drive so that you don't encounter any buffering issues over the PS3's wireless G (depends on the bitrate of your video content). $299 for a PS3, vs. how much for an Ion nettop? You could similarly use an Xbox 360, and the Elite models are silent now, but I'm just going on personal experience with my own fat PS3 with the upgraded 320GB hard drive. Also, if you can still get a fat PS3, you can always grab a PowerPC version of Linux and run Firefox and OpenOffice on your TV.

So what's the deal? Will we all be running some Home Server in the future? Where does the cloud fit in? It seems sorts right since the new TV models have WiFi and internet apps, but I'd like you geeks to make the call.

@DRWAM if your house is pure Windows, with say a Xbox 360 then WHS is a good product. It does have some support for Macs, but not with out hacks. That said there are lots of options out there. Lots of NAS products offer great speed and tons of features like audio, video and photo streaming, FTP servers, download servers etc. Support for UPNP and DNLA for lots of devices including consoles. There are free solutions as well like FreeNAS if you got an old desktop PC that could be turned into NAS/SAN. For remote control, www.logmein.com is the king of free solutions.

Thanks rrode. I'm just trying to figure out the direction of tech in my future or everyone's future. I do own a couple Macs but have more Win PC's. However, my main personal computer is my Pro Tower with SL. I guess I'm just used to the Mac OS for home use, especially iMovie to make DVD's of the kids. I'm a creature of habit. At work though, it's all Windows. Many of the docs at wok have iPhones now, and so do their wives. My wife has one now too, a 32GB 3GS, while I still use my 16GB 3G. No problems with any of it, but I'm a bit more tech savvy than most. They are both jailbroken ;)

ModernDislocation said: @ EricoF3 You said: "In the academic field of where we study Logic this is the fallacy known as a "false dichotomy" . You assume that a customer is faced with the choice of Mac or Windows 7. If so the Mac market share would be much higher than it actually is. Microsoft is reporting that they sold 60 million units of Windows 7 and apple sold that 3.3 million Macs and the numbers of computers sold in the same quarter was 300 million ( a rough average per IDC and Gartner). Obviously neither Win 7 nor the Mac had any sort of majority there. So claiming that Win 7 sales only impacted Mac sales is just not true. They may very well have come at the cost of Win Vista, Win XP or some kind of *nix. We do know that Mac market share went up despite Win 7, so it is more likely that Win 7 sales came at the expense of another OS and that was most likely another MS OS." Yes you are right... Basically The only thing I try to demonstrate is that not just Apple doing good thing... Also, The only thing we can do to compre OSX versus Windows is to compare Mac sales versus Windows sales ... The reason is in general OSX is bought with a Mac PC and Windows is bought with a PC of any brand... So I could tell that the comparition between Dell, HP, ACERS and Lenovo PC versus Mac Sales but I prefer to tell Mac versus Window... All you understand ... Just mac user seems to not understand... maybe they are too besy with their intellectual masturbation...

@EricoF3 You can compare any two number you like. It just doesn't mean anything. Using the numbers you are using, you are artificially raising the Mac market share. Comparing Win 7 licenses sold to Mac sales results in over 4% market share rather than the 3% range they are in. Anyway, as I said before, both Mac sales and Windows sales were good. No rational person would claim 30% and 70% were bad growth numbers. Now if you are either a Mac fanboy or a Win fanboy you might try to turn those numbers into things they are not.

@ EricoFormulaFord Right. Apple had nearly the same revenue last quarter as Microsoft, with Microsoft exceeding it by a mere 8-9%. Microsoft has a 25-30 fold marketshare over Apple and has nearly three times more employees. Microsoft released their copied version of OSX, called W7 (it even includes a dock!), and it did NOTHING to Mac sales. In fact, Apple sold more Mac computer last quarter than in the same quarter in 2008. Keep dreaming, nutjob.

@rrode: When 2 of the authorized distributors for a vendor stop carrying that vendors product line (and are both major worldwide distributors), it doesn't bode well for the vendor, and speaks volumes about the quality of the product. Honestly, I've never used one, but I don't feel I can justify buying product from that vendor any more than the numerous other resellers that returned them. If it were only one reseller sending them back, I'd retract that position, but these are numerous resellers having issues with defective units, and the distributor is pulling out, so that blatantly says "Stay away!" to me.