Start Orb Removed in Windows 8 Consumer Preview

There have been a number of reports recently that the Start Orb, or what some still think of as the Start button, has been removed from the Windows 8 Consumer Preview (Beta). And while the first few leaked shots I saw were inconclusive--there's a well-known registry hack that achieves this same effect, for example--this change is in fact true based on what my internal sources are telling me: Microsoft is removing the Start Orb from Windows 8.

Here's how it looks (mockup).

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This change doesn't impact the functionality of the missing Start Orb: You can tap the Start key on your keyboard (or CTRL + ESC) to mimic the behavior of the Orb, or mouse over the bottom left corner of the taskbar to bring up the Charms and screen overlay as before.


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Info Dave
on Feb 5, 2012
That is a huge step forward. Starting every task from one single spot was never a good idea, and efforts to circumvent it persisted until we end up back to a command line interface to find programs. Good riddance. Beyond this, Windows 8 appears to be fixing many prior wrongs. There is now talk of Windows 8 Phone happening at the same time. Ballmer will get his wish of Windows everywhere. The transition to Windows 8, I mean the re-imagining of Windows 8, will be as critical Microsoft as Apple's transition to OS X.
Webdev511
on Feb 5, 2012
Considering the windows button starting showing up on keyboards shortly after Windows95 was released, It's a pretty safe bet that the button is going to be present on the hardware on which people install Windows 8. Of course if there's no keyboard they'll be using the Touch First elements instead. I'm sure that once the consumer preview released, we'll have plenty to talk about with Windows 8. Well until the enterprise preview (RC) is released that is.
morsleyg
on Feb 5, 2012
I'm not really sure how I feel about Windows without a conventional Start menu. The new Start screen is fine for what it is, and will be great for touch, but it's not for everyone. I hope there's a "legacy" start menu in at least one version of Windows 8, but I'm sure we'll have a good chance to try it out with the "preview".
jvd897
on Feb 5, 2012
I don't mind that the Start Menu is being replaced with the Start Screen, but to remove the Start Orb seems like a real mistake. Microsoft is having a real tendency with Windows 8 to make basic functionality non-discoverable. Ordinary users are probably going to have to use the legacy Desktop every now and then: inevitably they'll want to go back to the Start Screen or launch a new program or something, and without the Start Orb, the Desktop might feel like a dead end. Unless Microsoft's telemetry data shows otherwise, I'm guessing that most of them won't know to press the Windows logo key or do Ctrl+Esc, much less mouse to the correct corner of the screen. (This might be more obvious on a Windows 8 tablet, though, with its WinKey button front-and-centre.) Also, where's the notification area?
gruntboy50
on Feb 5, 2012
This is going to evoke very emotional responses from many users. I guess I am turning into an old fuddy duddy. But I dont like where any of the major operating systems are going. Windows, OSX or Linux. I suppose its time to start hording windows 7 keys. The move to the start screen from the start menu just makes me angry. The screen may be better, It may be the best considering the diversity of computing paradigms. I just don't like it. I don't have good reasons. I am just tired of people changing things for the sake of change, with such little value added to the change. I will avoid Windows 8 with every fiber in my body. Just give the option to keep the start menu. I don't want live tiles, or a fisher price mobile experience on my computer. Unlike most people, I actually do work on my computer. I don't need change getting in the way of my productivity. This just stinks. I am now my father.
gruntboy50
on Feb 5, 2012
I really dont like where Windows is heading. It's time to start hording Windows 7 keys. For my home machine, I dont care as I mainly just need a terminal to get on the internet. The operating system is moot. However, at work where I launch applications to do development and engineering analysis this just gives me nightmares. I dont need a mobile experience dictating how I use my desktop. I also Don't need my applications written for the WinRT environment lambasting my simulation and development tools with artistic nonsense. It evokes very emotional feelings in me and I feel like I am turning into my father. I just hate everything about windows 8 for the enterprise environment. Fortunately, most my tools have a split personality and can run on a Unix terminal. Maybe I can convince my boss to get me a Solaris box, or just let me run some flavor of Linux. I certainly dont need office to do my job. Just about anything will output a .doc or .xls file. And I can always do Email in the Cloud so I dont need outlook. Just the more I hear about Windows 8 the more angry I get. I will probably use it at home, because I actually like what I see with Windows tablets, But for work, I will delay upgrades until IT just puts a gun to my head. Then I will turn in my two weeks notice. My only hope is Bring your own device becomes a more acceptable IT policy. Seems to work in the mobile world. Damn I hate Windows 8. Its turned me into my Dad.
4077
on Feb 6, 2012
[quote]It's time to start hording Windows 7 keys.[/quote] Dude, this is Kindergarten!. If this kind of thinking had existed in the past then we still would use square wheels because "Mammy, I don't like the round thing! Let's horde square wheels". You really made my day!
c3141wss
on Feb 6, 2012
I don't want the start screen. Pulling me out of my workflow with a full screen interface that wastes screen real estate is incredibly disruptive and distracting. Surely Microsoft can see what a disaster Windows 8 will be. I, for one, have no plans right now to deploy Windows 8 at all on my company's computers. The cost of user retraining alone would be huge. Ivory tower elitists like Steven Sinofsky think they know what makes an easy to use interface but they don't. The most important thing to the average user is consistency. The average user sees their computer as a tool to get stuff done. They want to be able to sit down at their computer and do their work, browse the web whatever. They do not have the time nor the inclination to continuously learn new interfaces merely because Microsoft thinks it's "cool" or "easier to use". Office 2007 was bad enough. I had so many users asking me "how do I save a file?" (who would have thought that an orb with the Office logo wasn't intuitive) that I had to send out a memo. I shudder to think how they will react with Windows 8.
Waethorn
on Feb 6, 2012
@Steven Grey, Brian Hill: Luddites like you also railed on Windows 95 for replacing DOS.
c3141wss
on Feb 6, 2012
"Luddites like you also railed on Windows 95 for replacing DOS." I railed on Windows 95 for not replacing DOS (because it didn't). Merely because someone is opposed to something new doesn't automatically make them a Luddite. Not every change is for the better. Microsoft's core business is PC software. The core Windows customers are PC users who use Windows on their PC. Alienating your core customer base is not a bright idea.
LemonSaucy
on Feb 6, 2012
Ugh. I do not like this. Metroseexual isn't all that. I find the flipping back and forth between the gaay Metroseexual screen and the proper Desktop so disconcerting. I really do not like it.
LemonSaucy
on Feb 6, 2012
@Steven Grey Sometimes my Dad is right, I'm not too cool for school to admit that. Windows 8 [at least configured to Metro] is another Windows Me/Vista. Microsoft will make billions because it will be preloaded, but everyone who's stuck with it will long for either Window 7 or Windows 9 if they can't get rid of Metro. If they can't, Enterprises in the majority will altogether reject it as a sad and obvious marketing scheme. Microsoft should focus on serving it's customers not trying to corral them into ugly marketing contrivances. Don't get the wrong idea: I like Windows! And think Windows 7 is the cat's meow of PC operating systems. And Windows 8 set to Desktop only is nice too. But ..
Info Dave
on Feb 6, 2012
Perhaps one of the best quotes regarding the Metro UI was "Windows 8 is what you get when you turn your UX design over to middle aged women who've never used a computer for anything but Facebook and smartphone games." They were, of course, referring to Julie Larson-Green, the person responsible for much of the current UI thought. This includes the ribbon interface, which is a controversy in and of itself. Metro may no be THE answer, but for the first time Microsoft is assimilating what a consistent user interface means, and the power it represents. Steven Grey and Brian Hill are holding on to what they are use to, and rightly so. First and foremost, a guy's gotta make a living. But they are holding on to false hope. Microsoft has no interest in supporting XP, and every reason to kill it. Microsoft is moving on to something else. If it works, Steve and Brian will have significantly fewer options over time. If Windows 8 doesn't work, Microsoft is in serious trouble.

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