Some Thoughts About the Windows 8 System Recommendations

There have been a few misunderstandings about the Windows 8 system requirements and recommendations and how they relate to those for Windows 7. Let's review.

 

First, you may recall that Microsoft has been saying for some time now that the Windows 8 system requirements will be identical to those of Windows 7. And, in fact, that Windows 8 will generally run faster than Windows 7 on the same hardware since its impact on system resources is actually lower.

 

This is true.

 

But recently, we've come to understand that Windows 8 Metro-style apps will require a resolution of 1024 x 768 or higher, and that if you'd like to run two apps side-by-side using Metro Snap, you'll need a screen resolution of 1366 x 768 or higher.

 

This is also true.

 

But then, many have wondered, if Windows 8 will run on any Windows 7-class machine, how could it possibly require a screen with a resolution of 1024 x 768 or higher? After all, PC makers sold hundreds of millions of Windows 7-based netbooks, and those machines typically shipped with a screen resolution of just 1024 x 600.

 

Here's how: The 1024 x 768 resolution is a requirement for Metro-style apps only. You can still install Windows 8 on a netbook, and Microsoft has done work to enable the Start screen on screen resolutions as low as 800 x 600, which is actually the base requirement for this OS. But if you want to run any Metro-style apps, you'll need a better screen, and thus a better PC.

 

"Even without Metro style applications, your Windows 7 workloads on these [low-end] PCs will improve and you can benefit from all the other features of Windows 8, including enhancements to the desktop," Microsoft corporate vice president Grant George wrote in a recent blog post to the Building Windows 8 Blog. "We have made sure that Start and [PC] Settings all scale well on 800 x 600 resolution screens."

 

So there you go. Misunderstandings cleared up.

 

Let's look at some of the other system recommendations described in this post.

 

Processor. Microsoft recommends a 1 GHz or faster processor. It doesn't specify dual core or better, but in this case of course, faster is always better. I will not personally be running Windows 8 on anything slower than a Core 2 Duo processor, other than for testing the netbook experience so I can write about it in Windows 8 Secrets.

 

RAM. Microsoft recommends 1 GB of RAM or more for 32-bit systems, and 2 GB of RAM or more for 64-bit. This is, as always, ludicrous. I recommend 2 GB of RAM, bare minimum, for a 32-bit version of Windows 8, and I'd be surprised if the average RAM on used PCs that will run Windows 8 isn't north of 4 GB.

 

Hard disk space. Curiously, Microsoft really low-balls here, noting that 16 GB of available space is just fine for a 32-bit install, whereas 20 GB or more is needed for 64-bit. These numbers are interesting to tablet device users, of which there are almost none, but realistically speaking, you're going to want a lot more hard drive space than that. (I realize these numbers are for what's required to just get Windows 8 installed, but Microsoft is very clear that these numbers are for "recommendations" not "requirements." Who the heck would recommend just 16 GB of free disk space. You'll want 64 GB bare minimum, or 128 GB or more if you're not just dicking around.

 

Graphics. Microsoft recommends a "DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver." Anyone really know what that means? No? Good. Because you don't need to know what that means. You can't have purchased a PC in the past few years that won't run Windows 8 just fine, and if you're playing games on a PC for some reason, that's for you to figure out. This used to be a big sticking point back in the Vista days, but not anymore. It all works fine now.

 

One of the big issues for me, since I am writing a book, is that there are almost no good PCs or devices (that I'm aware of, anyway) that provides the necessary hardware--like a UEFI-type BIOS--to enable some of Windows 8's most forward-leaning new features, like Secure Boot and Hyper-V 3.0. I'll keep looking, but as always, the best Windows 8 experience is going to happen with new hardware. And that's more true than ever with Windows 8.

 

Good luck out there in the trenches.

Discuss this Article 9

johnbaxter
on Mar 4, 2012
Microsoft has also (recently) said in one of its collections of recommendations that Windows 7 logo machines are OK (that would be subject to your notes about screen size, and thanks for clearing that up. My Dell tower has a Windows Vista logo, and I spent some time figuring out where it stood regarding the DirectX recommendation (I turn out to be fine). The test was carving out space and installing the Customer Preview on the Dell in a dual boot setup--all seems to be well. The Windows Experience Index doesn't like my graphics, scoring it in the low 2 area on both my Sony from early Win 7 days and the Dell. This is probably because it is using the generic class driver on both machines. If I cared, I'd look around for something more specific to the machines, but it's probably way too early to do so. I recommended your Windows 8 series in a meeting Saturday morning. Thanks for doing the work. --John Baxter (At least this CAPTCHA has both a capital Oh and a zero so I didn't have to guess.)
ponzonik
on Mar 4, 2012
I'd like you to address the usability of win8 as a workstation OS, where win7 excels. It has already been pretty well established that win8 will probably be even better than OSX as far as consumer type activities are concerned. But what happens when you absolutely must spend most if not all of your time in the desktop? Ie you're using some software that won't (nor needs to) be updated, a scientific or control software. What if you have a big screen or multiple screens, and use the real estate eg having several open windows in a way that the 75-25 metro split model dosn't satisfy? We know the task manager is improved but task switching has changed a lot, the metro start screen wil constantly pop up, etc. What if you have to constantly send attachments as part of your workflow with the metro mail client (where there'll be no drag and drop, no easy right click send as attachment, etc)?
sevenacids
on Mar 4, 2012
The 1024x768 minimum for Metro-style apps is one scenario where it would have made sense to preserve the old Start menu over the Start screen on Windows 8. I mean, how exciting is the whole new Metro/Start screen environment if you actually can't use any of the applications that are made for it on devices that don't meet the required resolution? It's close to being unfeasible. The only thing that works is the Start screen (which - interestingly - lacks of such a resolution limitation), but alone it offers no advantage over the Start menu. It's also interesting to see how this will work out on phones in the future. If Windows and Windows Phone will be merged into one product at some point in the future (both using the Windows Runtime as their common runtime environment) they will have to re-think this resolution minimum for low-end smart phones.
danwdoo
on Mar 5, 2012
There does seem to be a new unlisted processor requirement in regards to PAE or other type of instruction set requirements. There are reports of people (including me!) trying to install the CP on Pentium M machines that ran Windows 7 fine refusing to run the CP. The setup does not destect this missing requirement so the setup works but then it dies after the first reboot. This was not apparently an issue with the developer preview. It would be nice to have a definitive answer on this issue as to whether this will be permanent.
Waethorn
on Mar 5, 2012
That X120e that Leo used has UEFI Boot - AND SLAT for Hyper-V3.0. I should know - I have one and sold them (they have been replaced by the new X130e since they are nearly a year old now....at least, that's what my warranty monitor is telling me). How's that for "netbook-class hardware", Paul? (Hint: they aren't. Netbooks use sh*tty Atoms. These are "business ultraportables".) Secure Boot is a whole other ball of wax though. Although many systems ship with UEFI Boot and are fully capable of Windows Vista SP1-Windows 8's UEFI support and GPT partitioning, there are very few that ship with UEFI 2.3.1 and Secure Boot. You generally won't see this on most Windows 7 systems shipping today, but because it is a logo requirement for Windows 8, that will change before long.
Info Dave
on Mar 5, 2012
Great work, Paul. And I'm speaking for the entire body of recent work. I keep learning, thanks! Your comments about UEFI is what I learned just now. I was under the impression that UEFI was already on existing motherboards, and that Windows 8 required UEFI. Your version certainly makes more sense. I was also under the impression that UEFI was largely responsible for faster boot times. You are getting great boot times on BIOS based firmware. That's pretty impressive, for Windows 8. pon zonik said "It has already been pretty well established that win8 will probably be even better than OSX as far as consumer type activities are concerned." Perhaps in your mind, but Apple seems to be doing pretty well with products related to "consumer type activities". It will be best to wait and see. The fact that Windows 8 plays video that Windows 7 is huge, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
haywire
on Mar 5, 2012
Hmmm. So, basically, Windows 8 has the same requirements as Windows 7 which had the same requirements as Windows Vista.
techman.merb
on Mar 5, 2012
I installed the preview on an older Sony laptop and it runs fine.The only issues are with drivers for the webcam which I discovered are not available in 64bit version so I will be wiping it out and trying the 32 bit version. Other than that, performance is much faster than the original Vista that was previously on this system. My major complaint with it so far, and it is one that will keep me from installing Win 8 on my primary system, is the complete lack of a start menu/program menu in the desktop. I have well over 60 applications, not including games, and there's no way that I'm about to manually put shortcuts to every application on the desktop or on the Metro start screen. Give me a proper start menu on the desktop and I'd consider it. But no start menu = no install on my primary system.
DougI
on Mar 5, 2012
The following registry hack will let you run Win8 on a netbook by forcing higher resolution: I) Go to Start and type "Run" and press enter. II) Type "Regedit" and press enter. III) Go to "Edit" and then click "Find" IV) Type "Display1_DownScalingSupported" in the new message box and then click "OK". V) Once you find the key replace its value from "0" to "1" VI) Go to "Edit" and click "Find Next" VII) Repeat steps V and VI until all "Display1_DownScalingSupported" keys have been replaced with the new value. VIII) Close "Regedit" and restart your computer. IX) Right-click your desktop and select "Screen Resolution". X) Change your current resolution to 1024x768 and click "OK" I lost about 1mm of screen on one side but all the Win8 apps will open now. Credit to Ricardo Ogdon on the Win8 consumer forum.

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