New Intel Chipsets Spur Hope for Windows 8 Surge in 2013

2012 was a tough year for Windows 8 hardware. But 2013 is already looking a lot better

With Windows 8 PC and device sales off to a slow start, Microsoft, Intel, and their hardware partners delivered a curious “hurry and wait” message at this week’s Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. As is so often the case, things are going to be better in the future, the firms say. But this time, it’s truer than ever. You may actually want to wait.

Here’s the problem in a nutshell.

Windows 8, as you know, is a hybrid operating system that merges the PC-centric past with the touch-centric device future. As such, it is ostensibly equally at home on both traditional (non-touch) PCs—all-in-ones/tower PCs and portable computers—as it is on next generation devices such as tablets, hybrid PCs, and touch-based Ultrabooks and all-in-ones. (Yes, opinions vary. Let’s move on.)

The Windows 8 hardware situation has been a disaster so far, to put it fairly. Microsoft’s partners promised a wellspring of new form factors and models in time for launch, but uncertainty over which architectures—Intel x86 or ARM—and which form factors would be most successful with consumers triggered a sad, deer-in-the-headlights response from the hardware makers. As a result, there were few (read: no) compelling devices at launch, and Microsoft internally blamed its partners for the lackluster Windows 8 launch, as I exclusively reported previously.

Of course, it’s more nuanced than that.

Coupled with this uncertainty was another age-old problem that’s always faced Microsoft, Windows, and the PC industry: Timing. Microsoft was ready to deliver Windows 8 for the 2012 holiday selling season, but the chipsets needed to take advantage of its most forward-leaning platform features were only partially available. For example, one of the advantages that ARM brings to the table is its support for Connected Standby, which helps these devices function much like smart phones, intelligently going into very lower power modes automatically in order to save battery life. But ARM devices offer this useful functionality at a cost, too: They offer poor performance and are incompatible with the millions of Windows desktop applications and browser plug-ins that users rely on.

Intel’s knee-jerk response to the ARM threat is something called Clovertrail, a new generation Atom (read: crap) chipset (or System on a Chip, SoC) which offers the same kind of smart phone-like functionality as does ARM, including stellar battery life in fanless designs. Clovertrail devices offer one major advantage over ARM gadgets, of course: They’re fully compatible with all that desktop software. But they also come to the party with some of the same disadvantages, with lackluster performance thanks to a 32-bit design that supports just 2 GB of RAM. Clovertrail is exactly what it sounds like: A 2012-era netbook platform.

Now, you could have just purchased a true Windows 8 PC/device running on a true “Ivy Bridge” Intel chipset, assuming you could find such a thing. This hardware provides full compatibility and full performance, but it does so at the expense of battery life and your sanity: Ivy Bridge devices run hot, and require fans.

When you put this all together, consumers were basically faced with a bunch of horrible trade-offs and, like the hardware makers themselves, reacted mostly with that same deer-in-the-headlights response: They stayed away in droves, driving Windows 8 sales into a funk for the entire launch period through the end of 2012. According to NPD, Windows 8 PC/device sales didn’t just fall short of Windows 7 PC sales during its equivalent launch period, they fell short of PC sales from a year earlier. Cue the Chicken Little horror stories.

With the holiday selling period behind us, however, we can turn our attention to a new generation of Windows 8 devices that will appear throughout 2013, and many will of course feature next-generation chipsets that will hopefully merge the performance of Ivy Bridge with the power characteristics of Clovertrail/ARM. And while we can pretend to be interested in this year’s evolutionary updates to ARM, nothing is more interesting or pertinent to users than that what Intel’s doing.

Here’s what Intel’s doing.

Intel this week announced a new generation of microprocessors, which pretty much obsoletes every single Windows 8 device that was sold over the holidays. (And to be clear, in this case, I literally mean “device”: Traditional desktop PC designs are not as affected by this evolution of course.) A low bar, I know. But they all represent huge improvements.

These coming chipsets include:

4th generation Core processors. The Ivy Bridge successor, code-named “Haswell,” offer what Intel says is “the biggest battery life gain over a previous generation in company's history,” and will “enable a broad new range of Ultrabook convertibles, detachables [what I call hybrid PCs] and tablets with all-day battery life.” Full-power Haswell chips are not expected until “late 2013,” Intel says.

Low-power Core processors. Intel is finally delivering a true Core processor with the power characteristics required for Connected Standby. These chips utilize as little as 7 watts of power, “enabling thinner, lighter, touch-based Ultrabook convertibles, detachables and tablets.” Best of all, they are available now, and devices utilizing them will be appearing in the market in the coming weeks. Update: It appears that these new 7w parts are based on Ivy Bridge, not Haswell, which may explain their immediate availability.

2nd generation Atom SoC. The Clovertrail successor will continue the power-saving goodness with a 22mm design but make up for its biggest shortcoming, offering “more than double the computing performance of the current platform.” Unfortunately, it won’t be available until holiday 2013, and given the other chipsets, I’m thinking this will be reserved solely for the bargain basement bin part of the market.

There’s some speculation that Microsoft’s Surface with Windows 8 Pro tablet—which I previously exclusively revealed is set for a January 27, 2013 launch—will in fact utilize the low-power Haswell chipset instead of the Ivy Bridge chipset Microsoft has promised. (Mary Jo Foley questions one aspect of this presumed and very much desirable change in Will Microsoft's Surface Pro offer better battery life than promised?) I argue at this point that Microsoft will do irreparable damage to the Surface brand if it does not utilize this new chipset.

Regardless, we’re going to be flooded with new PCs and devices in 2013. My advice is simple: Wait. Wait for the new chipsets, and wait for the new hardware designs being announced this week. There simply isn’t a single compelling, no-brainer device in the market today, yes. But that’s about to change.

Discuss this Article 37

dopydope
on Jan 8, 2013

*Clovertrail
not Cloverfield

pthurrott
on Jan 8, 2013

Thanks. I always misspell that for some reason.

Waethorn
on Jan 8, 2013

It's "Clover Trail", Paul. Cloverfield was the terrible movie.

rbumpus
on Jan 8, 2013

not clear on the distinction between Haswell and the unnamed Low Power processors in your second of three chips described. Does it have a code name we can watch for? Your descriptions seem to say they are targeted at the same market.

Sen
on Jan 8, 2013

Usually there's a 2-3 month lag between Intel "shipping to manufacturers" and shipping in retail. So Surface Pro is most likely not going to feature the Y series Ivy Bridge. Unless of course Intel granted Microsoft exclusive early access, like they did Apple for the first-gen MacBook Air, but that pissed off other OEM partners (which is why it has never happened again).

The problem with Ivy Bridge is not the max TDP - which is what Y series improves substantially - but the idle power / light load power which is more relevant to mobile devices. So even the Y series isn't going to substantially improve battery life in light situations like web browsing or media playback. This won't be addressed till Haswell, which according to Intel drops idle power 20 times versus Ivy Bridge.

Like I mentioned in the Tegra 4 article, the chipset to watch for 2013 is without a doubt AMD's Temash. These are bonafide ARM-like / Clovertrail like SoCs with similar power consumption characteristics without any of the drawbacks. 64-bit, full SATA support (for proper SSDs instead of crappy eMMC/NAND), mature DirectX 11 support - it's all there. At CES yesterday, AMD demoed a Temash 10-inch tablet prototype running full blown Dirt: Showdown in DX11 mode on 64-bit Windows 8 at 1080p! There's nothing in mobile land, neither from ARM nor Intel that, comes even close for most of 2013. AMD's graphics leadership is undisputed, and it is no co-incidence that all next gen consoles will run AMD graphics. While Intel's performance CPU division clearly has the edge on AMD today, AMD's low power CPU division is formidable. Their previous low power design Brazos obsoleted the Atom line in 2010, and it's going to happen again in 2013. Temash releases Q2 as A4 and A6 series, let's hope the OEM's give it a fair shot.

Waethorn
on Jan 9, 2013

If AMD had the money that Intel had, they would actually give people what they want - better multimedia experiences - rather than just rehash the same old boring "faster number-crunching computer" with X-transistor technology marketing that Intel has always run. Intel just can't do that type of marketing though because they'd be laughed out of the industry.

MarkH
on Jan 8, 2013

Amusingly, "Cloverfield" was shaky, rehashed an old story, and left you feeling a little like "wait...what? Why did I get this?" So maybe you didn't misspell it, Paul? :-)

arrow22
on Jan 8, 2013

late 2013... Waiting will be tough. My laptop was due to be replaced last year (FYI, placing a dead laptop video card in the oven DOES revive it! On it's 5th life now.)

The industry is at a weird state: I am leaning towards the Macbook Pro, the high resolution display being a huge draw (and my first forray into Mac OSX) - but I need Windows 8 as well, which doesn't work at that resolution (not well anyway). I also feel like the traditional non-detachable, non-touch screen clamshell design will start looking quaint by the year's end. There are just so many opportunities where tearing off the display to use as a tablet makes sense, and I'd rather have a single device rather than two if I can help it.

Let's see what 2013 brings...

eboyhan
on Jan 11, 2013

I came to a similar conclusion: the Mac-book Pro has all the powerful features, but no touch screen, and I'm more MS Windows-centric than Apple-oriented.

I'll pick up a high end Surface Pro, but then wait for Haswell to replace my power laptop -- such agony :D

henador
on Jan 8, 2013

The CloverTrail doesn't have "lackluster performance thanks to a 32-bit design that supports just 2 GB of RAM". The 32-bit design has nothing to do with performance. Atoms are slower because they have fewer internal execution units, slower caches, etc. (basically, they're less complicated to save power). A 64-bit design with the same limitations would be even slower.

efjay
on Jan 8, 2013

And I would argue that the "crap" moniker is misplaced as well. Certainly they are not computing powerhouses but with Wacom digitizers and the ability to do some level of work in Photoshop and the like, ability to run programs like Zune to replace the mediocre Xbox Music app, better GPU performance now allowing smooth 1080p video viewing I would say they are pretty capable devices for the non-power user who needs access to a few x86 programs.

Having said that, its clear proper driver support has been the biggest problem for the released devices but most OEM's are addressing that with frequent driver updates, Samsung in particular coming to mind. Personally I think of the two platforms ARM is the least attractive, being completely dependent on the Windows Store which so far is definitely lacking. At least with a Clovertrail device you can install an alternative program if there is no app in the Windows Store.

Waethorn
on Jan 8, 2013

"Photoshop" and "Atom" should NEVER be used in the same context.

worleyeoe
on Jan 8, 2013

And, I would add that the iPad, while far from a Surface type device, is selling like hot cakes and with 1 GB of memory. And the Android tablets are just as limited in memory, 2 GBs, as the W8 tablets / Surface. Therefore, the market currently doesn't care about 2GB+ of memory. So if Samsung can sell the premier Tab 2 for $349 with near identical specs to say an Acer Iconia 510 for $500, then there's something hugely wrong with the pricing model of Clover Trail based tablets. The cost differential for Clover Trail over the A9 based ARM chips can't be more than $10-15.

pipsqueek
on Jan 8, 2013

Scratching my head. Wait for better hardware, devices? I don't understand your logic. The Surface as Paul has shown has advantages over the iPad. The iPad is laboring under the same limitations using ARM architecture, but that hasn't dampened demand for iPads. Wait for ??????????? then sales will take off ?????

Grasping at straws.

henador
on Jan 8, 2013

Brand new UI, brand new devices, zero customer awareness. Of course WinTabs are off to a slow start. Intel has finally woken up and the mobile world will look far different by the end of 2013. By then we'll have CPU horsepower coming out of our ears while using little overall power.

Unfortunately, we'll still be contrained by WinRT, which was designed for low performance CPUs/systems (the async crap).

dalestrauss
on Jan 8, 2013

Here's to hoping that Intel did grant early access to the Y version of Ivy Bridge to Microsoft for its ground-breaking tablet. Even though it does not have the idle power/light load characteristics of the Haswell chipset, it will still be a nice improvement over standard Ivy Bridge, and give Surface Pro somr "bragging rights" to accompany the ridiculous 90 day delay in releasing the tablet they should have released first.

All of this chip commotion leads me to believe that WOA (Windows on ARM) is all much ado about nothing. Why give up any backwards compatibility UNLESS the performance delta for ARM is significantly (not even substantially) better than x86 variants - and it is not. In fact, I would argue that it is the power state advantages of ARM that give the iPad and Android crowd their all-day batteries, charm, AND inability to do real productivity tasks. Why dilute your brand with that stigma?

brians (not verified)
on Jan 8, 2013

The new Intel chips should indeed provide much nicer Ultrabooks and Macbooks. They are not likely to provide better tablets.

Let's compare them to the Exynos 5250 which is the ARM Cortex A15 chip shipping in the Nexus 10 and the Samsung Chromebook and a Tegra 3, which is the ARM chip in the Microsoft Surface and the Nexus 7.

Medfield is somewhat slower than a Tegra 3.
Clover Trail is slightly faster than a Tegra 3.
An Exynos 5250 is 1.4 times faster than a Clover Trail.
Even if Intel does manage to ship a chip 2x faster than Clover Trail by the end of 2013, ARM chips that fast and faster will already be shipping (i.e. those announced at CES and Exynos 5400). So far, Intel has lagged severely in their SoC's GPUs.

As to 7w Ivy Bridge, you have to be careful, the chip itself might be that efficient, but it will be the low-end of the chips that gets that power consumption. Worse, that is just the chip, by the time you add in the necessary support chips you'll be more like 12 watts, meaning you must have a fan in a tablet.

Haswell has essentially the same problem, it is possible that the lowest end Haswell might be able to be used in a tablet with no fan, but I'll believe it when they actually ship it and outsiders test it. All other Haswell's have too high a TDP not to have a fan.

The support chips are a big deal. The 4W Exynos 5250 (yes, that 4W is not a typo) is a System on a Chip, it includes a huge number of things, the processor, memory controller, USB 2 and 3, vector processor, various multimedia encoders/decoders and much more. But here is the really big factor, an Exynos 5250 costs about $20, Haswell STARTS at $184 (just for the CPU). To put that in perspective, the average selling price of an Android tablet in June was $151. The whole Exynos 5250-based Samsung Chromebook costs $249.

While Intel is clearly trying, they are a long way from being able to compete in tablet space.

You can find links to support the above here:
http://computingcompendium.blogspot.com/2012/12/arms-disruptive-technolo...
and here:
http://computingcompendium.blogspot.com/2012/12/intel-disappoints.html

ad24
on Jan 9, 2013

This is an excellent comment. I guess Intel has yet to fully understand that glorious days of their fat-margin business model are gone for good.

Waethorn
on Jan 9, 2013

....and they killed it when they started pushing low-power processors for netbooks (that started with low-power Celeron processors before moving to the Atom).

brians (not verified)
on Jan 9, 2013

There is new news about the 7 watt Ivy Bridge chips. It turns out the 7 watts is not TDP (the traditional measure used by chip makers), but rather SDP a new measure Intel just created that makes it look better than it is. 7 watt Ivy Bridge Chips will definitely need a fan and will not get the increase in battery life one would normally expect. Here's an article that covers the matter in depth:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/power-saving-through-marketing-in...

jimbie882
on Jan 8, 2013

When are the lower power Ivy Bridge devices available? That's what I would like to know especially if Intel are offereing them now.

The problem is the Haswell chips are 1 year late. This is the sweet spot and where I see future demand for Windows devices and laptops. There won't be any momentum for Windows 8 until we have those chips.

johnwbaxter
on Jan 8, 2013

Fortunately, my Windows machine fleet has a reasonably able Sony laptop (from early Win 7 days) and a working if clunky Dell tower from mid-Vista. I'm happy with Windows 8 Pro on both (yes, no touch). [Both have moderate Intel chips.]

Windows 8's "Intel problem" means I have even less reason to rush in and buy. Unless the tower blows up or I leave the laptop on the roof on my car, I have very little incentive to buy anything now. (I wouldn't mind if a friend bought a Surface or Surface Pro.)

I'll look late in the year (or sooner if the current fleet lets me down). That doesn't help Microsoft sales, but it's not my job to keep MS in business: that's Mr. B's task.

developer
on Jan 8, 2013

There is also economic recession, in Europe at least.

People spend conservatively, on only needed devices.

GWLeibniz
on Jan 9, 2013

Agreed and as the total EU market has a larger population then N America it is a significant market to slow down.
My colleagues and I all have chosen to delay the inevitable purchase of a Win8 tablet until later in the year because we believe a better price/perfromance point will be reached.

GoodThings2Life
on Jan 8, 2013

I admit I'd love it if Surface Pro uses Haswell chips, but I have to believe their production is already happening, and are the new chips even available yet? I guess I'm not clear on this... it's a no brainer if they have/have had access to the chips for production and testing, but maybe this is saying customers should wait for Surface Pro v2...

Waethorn
on Jan 8, 2013

I'm more anxious to see what AMD's 2014 HSA chips look like. This is where the lines between GPU's and CPU's become blurred, and processor cores are used equally between data processing, and the visualization of data, which makes a lot of sense. Microsoft is committed to this future of computing, and so is ARM. Intel isn't, because their "GPU's" (if you can even call them that) suck large. They honestly think that x86 is good enough to use as a GPU. It already wasn't good enough for Larrabee though.

robertnd2
on Jan 8, 2013

Nice article Paul. Without splitting hairs, I don't think any of the tech sites have speculated that the surface pro will have a Haswell processor as the article suggests. I believe they were speculating on whether it would have the new low power IVY bridge chip. Also, as was inferred by another poster, the new low power IVY bridge chips, while having a lower TDP, will not be able to go into connected standby mode. We will have to wait for Haswell for that. I've been following the Intel stuff for a while and have felt that the 3 month delay in the surface Pro (from the Rt version) was primarily related to lower power chip being available from Intel. Otherwise, the staggering of the Surface Pro makes no sense (they could have launched it in October with the other version) Also, this whole thing about the Surface Pro having 4 hours of battery life was a ruse based on a silly post on twitter by a lower level Microsoft employee that all of the tech blogs took for gospel and ran with it. I think Microsoft intentionally has kept quiet to give everyone a pleasant surprise with regard to battery life. We will find out in a few weeks!

bathswana
on Jan 8, 2013

It is highly likely that the sole reason the Surface Pro is launching 90 days after the Windows 8 and Surface RT launch is because Microsoft is waiting for Intel's low power chips.

Otherwise Surface Pro could have, and would have, launched on October 26th, 2012.

SamR
on Jan 9, 2013

I am in the market for a Windows laptop/tablet but I have one requirement that I will not budge on. OK lets make that three requirements.

One, it must have NO fans, NONE. (My current Dell drives me nuts)

Two, it must run full Windows not RT.

Three, it must last all day on battery, say 8 hours minimum (Dell again).

In the meantime I purchased an iPad 4 and waiting for the Microsoft to release the Office Apps.

Heavyhanded
on Jan 9, 2013

Hi Paul, I clearly remember you stating somewhere that you like the Clover Trail tablet that you own. In fact, you said it is what MS should have based the Surface on and not the decrepit Tegra 3. Why do you call it "crap" in this article, particularly after I have made a recommendation to a co-worker to buy a Clover Trail tablet?

pthurrott
on Jan 9, 2013

I prefer it to ARM/Windows RT. That's a really low bar. Really low.

CloverTrail is an Atom and it performs as one. It's basically an expensive netbook-class tablet. Again, "better" than Surface RT or Windows RT generally. But that's faint praise.

I will be writing a Part 2 to my Cloverfield article comparing it to a real PC. It's not going to be pretty.

pthurrott
on Jan 9, 2013

And, I should add...

The article you're thinking of is here:

Windows 8 Architecture Wars, Part 1: Clover Trail vs. ARM
http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/windows-8-architecture-wars-part-1-clo...

dalestrauss
on Jan 9, 2013

Looks like the "low power" Y class Ivy Bridge processor may be more about smoke and mirrors than real power saving. Intel created new "benchmark standard - SDP" to get to the 7W figure, and they do not have any SDP ratings for standard Ivy Bridge processors (per Ars Technica - http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/power-saving-through-marketing-in...)

Waethorn
on Jan 9, 2013

Paul, I still don't get your hostility towards ARM. It's slower than Clover Trail, but it's also cheaper. All of the Clover Trail tablets are far more money than comparable Windows RT tablets, and the x86 models don't give you Office, so to balance the pricing out, you're paying A LOT MORE for backwards compatibility that doesn't really be there for a consumer system anyway. Whether a customer tries to use this as a PC replacement or not, that's their own choice. Many consumers have already done away with backwards compatibility by buying iPads and Android devices instead of laptops. And then you can also count Windows-to-Mac switchers. Yet Windows RT gives you a standard file system (you can easily work ZIP files too, which is a big plus in my book), USB, and Flash support, so this has a leg up on the other platforms already. It is a PC platform that runs apps that can also run on your x86 system. I think of it as the basis of Windows 8, not the other way around where Windows 8 is stripped back.

pthurrott
on Jan 9, 2013

It's not "hostility." I just don't think this answers a need anyone had. It may in the future.

Waethorn
on Jan 9, 2013

A low-cost variant of the more expensive touchscreen Windows 8 systems that requires no additional learning curve over them?

eboyhan
on Jan 11, 2013

I wonder if the 90 day delay in releasing the Surface Pro was done with malice aforethought. MS could have been having private conversations about the Ivy Bridge rollout, and factored in the delay to enable them to use the 7W chip. If so, then their recent announcement that the Pro would get half the battery life of the RT would have factored in the use of the 7W chip.

In retrospect I'm beginning to think that MS' decision to support ARM is more of a "hedging" rather than a "strategic" move. Intel has an almost 2 generation lead over its foundry competitors on the process side. Intel has faced agile competitors before (ARM now, AMD back in the day). They keep on doing what they do best: turning the screws on process -- using that to overcome whatever competitors come up with.

Haswell is going to come in at the low end with TDPs equal to ARM at the high, and Bay Trail with come in with very low TDP with performance that will probably sink the ARM follow-ons just announced by Qualcomm and Nvidia. Haswell is going to have some very interesting performance boosters -- especially for the engineering/science space. For us mere mortals the graphics are supposed to be astounding.

The previews of the PRO art CES are mildly encouraging. I'll get one, but probably defer a power laptop buy until Haswell. Clearly 2013 is going to have some interesting surfii from MS based on Haswell and Bay Trail.

Windows on ARM might make sense in the phone space (if they can unify Windows Ph 8 and Windows RT), but even there Intel is bound to make inroads in phones -- likely first in China via Lenovo.

Other than the phone play, Windows RT looks more and more like a "pure" test bed for Windows "Next Generation".

One off the wall thought: TI is getting out of the consumer ARM business. Amazon is going to have to find a follow-on partner for future kindles, I wonder if they'd consider Intel?? Nahhh!

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