Just Say No: Practice Restraint During TouchPad Fire Sale

When HP released its webOS-based TouchPad tablet in late June, I refused to review it, noting that it lacked the ecosystem support that makes Apple's iPad special. This isn't an issue that's unique to the TouchPad, of course: It's a problem with all of the iPad's supposed competition, and will be until the Amazon and Windows 8 tablets appear.

But my point was simple: These devices aren't really about the hardware, or the specs, or most of the other technical gobbledygook that bloggers and tech reviewers like to confuse matters with when they compare such products. More important—far more important—is that ecosystem surrounding the devices, the content such as apps, TV shows, movies, music, podcasts, audio books, ebooks, and so on that are compatible with the devices. And the TouchPad doesn't have it. Not even close.

Of course, HP has killed webOS and the TouchPad along with it. And though you might choose to mourn its passing, as I do (webOS really was something special, even though it never caught on with consumers), don't be fooled by the Crazy Eddie pricing you're seeing out there as retailers dump their remaining stock of TouchPads at fire sale prices.

Remember: The TouchPad was worthless when it was fully supported. So it's beyond worthless now, unless you don't mind being limited to basic web browsing, local video playback, and the other Dead Man Standing features that these things currently offer.

When you're a gadget and technology lover, as I am, it's hard to restrain yourself sometimes. I get that. But my advice is to look the other way now. There's a better solution in the market today—the iPad—and Amazon and Microsoft are prepping new tablet platforms that I think you'll find very interesting in the near future. This isn't the time to be buying something that looks just like an iPad but offers none of the iPad's very real advantages. And that's true at any price.

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Drewidian
on Aug 21, 2011
While I agree that the Touchpad does not have the necessary ecosystem that the big platforms are building or have, I think it makes a nice internet device. If sites like Hulu, Netflix, and others adopt HTML5 as their standard web interface in addition to platform specific web applications, this device is a steal at $99 or $150. My children will love it and I might even use it as a basic device. For the most part WebOS is dead, but this could turn out to be the most brilliant move HP could have made to get devices into the hands of consumers and attract developers to the platform. Just to note... I'm a WP7 user and a purely MS guy who would love to see a 4th ecosystem develop.
Drewidian
on Aug 21, 2011
While I agree that the Touchpad does not have the necessary ecosystem that the big platforms are building or have, I think it makes a nice internet device. If sites like Hulu, Netflix, and others adopt HTML5 as their standard web interface in addition to platform specific web applications, this device is a steal at $99 or $150. My children will love it and I might even use it as a basic device. For the most part WebOS is dead, but this could turn out to be the most brilliant move HP could have made to get devices into the hands of consumers and attract developers to the platform. Just to note... I'm a WP7 user and a purely MS guy who would love to see a 4th ecosystem develop.
Drewidian
on Aug 21, 2011
While I agree that the Touchpad does not have the necessary ecosystem that the big platforms are building or have, I think it makes a nice internet device. If sites like Hulu, Netflix, and others adopt HTML5 as their standard web interface in addition to platform specific web applications, this device is a steal at $99 or $150. My children will love it and I might even use it as a basic device. For the most part WebOS is dead, but this could turn out to be the most brilliant move HP could have made to get devices into the hands of consumers and attract developers to the platform. Just to note... I'm a WP7 user and a purely MS guy who would love to see a 4th ecosystem develop.
dan_dood88
on Aug 21, 2011
Respectfully disagree; I think that the Touchpad could be useful for a few specific niches: 1. Enthusiasts that want to mess around with alternate firmware options because they can. This is the group that tries to port Linux to a toaster. (nothing wrong with that, IMHO) 2. People like me that want a couch-friendly web browser. That's primarily what my aging laptop is used for now, the Touchpad will replace it. At least the Touchpad does flash. I have a decent desktop for gaming & real work. I do not care about apps, but my smartphone will cover me when I'm out. I see your point and am doubtful if this really is the best choice for Grandma/grandpa types that need a simple, maintenance-free computer; such users might really benefit from the app model the iPad has launched. Also, I agree with your point - if anyone is expecting to get an iPad-type ecosystem, they will be disappointed. (I have no intention of putting money into the HP app store). But should work fine for web browsing, calendar, email, facebook, skype. Still, for people that know what they are getting into, and can have a use case with the present set-up, it's hard to resist the functionality available for $99; even if I have to upgrade ahead of the device's physical lifespan, it would not be a waste of money.
bob02903
on Aug 21, 2011
I agree that the ecosystem is the most important thing when spending $500+ on a tablet device, especially when I don't think I'd end up using it that much, based on my past history. Yet, I'm a certified gadget-hound, and spending $99 on a product that does several primary tasks with a nice UI, and that has decent hardware specs is almost a no-brainer. I happen to be wrapped up in the iTunes eco-system, and have several iPods, but I'm also a Windows guy, and got a nice 64GB Zune HD when they went on sale for about $200 a couple of months ago. I won't even go into my various Creative and SanDisk players, but let's face it: Toys are fun! :-)
mwrisner
on Aug 21, 2011
I agree with everything you said about HP and the TouchPad. I bought one early this morning, though. And I still don't feel post-purchase regret. Besides I got it at BestBuy.com and can take the thing back if I hate it (I checked before I submitted the order). My plan is to use the Dead Man Standing features, experiment using it for more business scenarios. Otherwise it will just complement my family's iPad 2.
drv
on Aug 21, 2011
Respectfully disagree as well. There has begun an effort to port Android to the Touchpad. This would make it a very useful product as well as a terrific buy at $99 for the 16GB and $149 for the 32GB version. However, getting one now is becoming problematic. I guess people started gobbling them up before reading Paul's advice. http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3327&p=67699
rseiler
on Aug 21, 2011
HP is saying WebOS is not dead: http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/08/the-next-chapter-for-webos Even if it ends up that way, attempts are being made to port Android: http://geeknizer.com/install-android-on-hp-touchpad/
thoughtsbin
on Aug 21, 2011
So everyone thinks that HP is losing money on PCs and even saying that the PC market is over and done by the iPads. If you look at what HP has done in the past year, all of this makes sense and any true journalist should not be surprised by this move HP has made. These actions by HP does not in any form mean that the PC market is over or that the WebOS as a platform is "dead". Here is a very good post that explains it in detail. http://daringfireball.net/2011/08/hp_apotheker
phil_will
on Aug 22, 2011
"it's beyond worthless now, unless you don't mind being limited to basic web browsing, local video playback, and the other Dead Man Standing features that these things currently offer" That's a ridiculous statement Paul, and I'm sure you know it. Yes, WebOS has lost it's hardware manufacturer, but frankly, at $99/euro/GBP, why would you not buy a 10" dual core slate with full flash support and multitasking? Not to mention the fact that since so many people are buying these up there WILL be app development for months, if not years to come. Apps are developed in CSS/Java/HTML, so the barrier to entry is ridiculously low! Admit it, you bought at least one, didn't you...
Dipsh t Admin
on Aug 22, 2011
Paul, I get what you are saying, but I have to disagree. For a tablet with the same IPS screen as the iPad, and good specs, and a great WebOS experience that works well on tablets, as long as you don't expect to download apps or get official updates, it would make a wonderful tablet for just regular web browsing and media consumption. And let's face it, most tablet users are doing the basic stuff anyway. At $99, there are some cheapo Android tablets that are similarly limited in the ecosystem support, but have inferior specs. Porting Android is just icing on the cake. I would have probably picked up one if I could have found one before they sold out.
pchoward
on Aug 22, 2011
Have to disagree here as well. The primary apps that make it well worth $99 are Browsers and Email. If thats all it did I would be happy to have another 9 inch tablet in the house to free up my ipad when someone needs a browser. Since its likely to have full android support that makes it a no brainer! I have a $99 mouse, a $99 keyboard, a $99 logitech remote ( like a lot of other geeks here:0 ) and other gadgets so this is a no brainer.
Cloutierja
on Aug 22, 2011
Please don't tell me that Paul is actually that out of touch with his audience. I know him and Leo like to advocate for the users but com'on! If he truly gets it, why post this? Post about what you actually get about this fire sale I dare you! There is no way 99.9% of your audience would ever look the other way at this type of opportunity Paul! Your post is EPIC FAIL!
Waethorn
on Aug 22, 2011
The TouchPad now joins the ranks of all of the abandonware Android 2.x tablets made by no-name Chinese ODM's that cost less than $200, and will [likely] never get software updates. If I could buy one, I probably would - I would use it as a VNC client to connect to my IP KVM for servicing computers remotely. I know of a few others were looking for some of these for single-purpose "embedded" applications. However, my suppliers got word early about this, and HP has already slurped up remaining stock from them (one supplier listed having over 4000 units over the weekend, but come Monday morning, listed zero). I suspect the same happened with retailers since upon public knowledge last week of the sale, almost no retailers were showing any stock of them. I honestly don't know anybody that was able to find one anywhere, and I figure that the whole "sale" was just staged. Best Buy certainly didn't sell the 200,000 unit backlog that they claimed to be in possession of. I think if anyone was to buy up webOS, it should probably be Microsoft. Not for the brand, but for the technology. The Enyo API is built on Javascript, and Microsoft could easily bring those libraries into Windows 8. I see it as Microsoft having the only "webOS" that is actually brought to market. What HP should do is have a fire sale on webOS now.
pidge
on Aug 22, 2011
Can't believe you are saying this. For 95% of users out there, this is a perfect solution. Bought one for my sister, my father and my wife. My father and sister just need to browse the web and access Facebook. My wife has never purchased an app on her iPod Touch and mainly uses it to shop and check email. Even when my wife borrows my iPad, she mainly uses it for the same reasons she uses her iPod Touch for, just on a larger screen.
xpxp2002
on Aug 22, 2011
I'm disappointed. This isn't like you at all. It is sad that HP will stop making it, and webOS will likely be abandoned. But let's face it. Despite the fact that I still see no valid purpose for it, the tablet form-factor future that BillG predicted nearly a decade ago is finally becoming mainstream. Except it's dominated by two of the tech world's most evil companies. Need I really state who they are? Most users only need a web browser (mind you, this one even supports Flash) and an e-mail client. I'm not sure what else the majority of average consumers expect to do with an iPad or some Android tablet, anyway. As I stated above, I'm not a proponent of the tablet form-factor. I think that the ultraportable and smartphone jointly service the same roles and needs that tablets are supposed to. In my opinion, the tablet is a solution in search of a problem. Regardless of that, Apple has managed to convince Americans that they need another overpriced product that they don't understand. Thus, there's no turning back. All I can say is, I bought a Touchpad and I'm looking forward to it. It seems to be the only option to try out a tablet without dropping $500+ for an iSheep product or selling your privacy to Google in exchange for more of their products wrapped in spyware.
jsullyboy
on Aug 23, 2011
I totally agree that the tablet needs to be both a quality hardware device and have an ecosystem with useful and relvant apps and content. But at the price of $99 or $149 its worth the risk. its not a big deal if a $99 device turns out to be not that useful. Unfortunately I was on vacation last week and missed the news until Sunday night. On Monday morning I went to 4 stores all of the tablets were long gone. The store clearks said that they were gone in the first 20 mins of opening. This got me thinking. A lot of people were willing to spend $99-$149 on a dead end device with no ecosystem. So maybe way to compete with the iPad is mimic the cell phone market. Subsidize the device to make money in the ecosystem. Plus have the leverage build a decent ecosystem because you are flooding the market with devices that have a significant price advantage. Its hard to build and ecosystem when no one has the device.
whiplash55
on Aug 24, 2011
I guess it depends what you want it for. I pretty much only need a browser and email device. I also use Skype on it and use it show off some pics. For 400 bucks less than a iPad, it's a no brainer, buy it use it, in 2 years the iPad you're using will be just as irrelevant as a Touchpad.
Ibrahim_b
on Aug 31, 2011
Reading this article is like listening to a conversation in a crowned barber shop. But hey! now that I read it, next HP's sale I am buying 4 for the whole family, hey hey.

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