Confirmed: Apple iCloud Does Not Stand Alone

Paul Paliath at Infinite Apple worked with my co-author Rafael Rivera to confirm that Apple’s iCloud cloud service does in fact use outside cloud services—including Microsoft’s Windows Azure and Amazon S3—to do its thing. And what they’ve found is that iCloud doesn’t even (currently) host images sent over iCloud’s iMessage service. Instead, it places them on Azure (or S3) and links to them instead.

(I originally blogged about this issue three days ago HERE.)

In other words, iCloud is not so much an Apple cloud computing solution as it is a repackaging of other, more mature cloud computing platforms. And what the heck, Apple is picking up the bill: Azure and S3 aren’t free.

Now, this could change. iCloud, of course, is only in beta. But it does beg the question: If iCloud can’t handle this data during what is a very limited beta, how are they going to handle it when the service actually goes live this fall? I don’t think they have the infrastructure to support the traffic, new datacenter or not.

Here’s what Mr. Paliath as to say about the issue:

Last week, we posted some screenshots showing what appeared to be Apple’s new iCloud-backed iMessage using Azure (and Amazon) services for hosting. Since then, GigaOM ran the screenshots through three “cloud and networking experts at major companies” and the trio dismissed our claims.

Looking at the screenshots, it’s obvious Charles was used to dump iCloud traffic. Working with Within Windowsblogger Rafael Rivera, we were able to set up a similar configuration with proper SSL sniffing capabilities — a set up that cloud and networking experts could have set up in minutes.

We sent an image from and to iPhones running a beta copy of iOS 5. The resulting traffic showed, quite clearly, the use of Azure services for hosting purposes. We don’t believe iCloud stores actual content. Rather, it simply manages links to uploaded content.

So is this ironic or just hypocritical? I’d argue it’s both.

Discuss this Article 5

davepermen
on Jun 14, 2011
if cloud doesn't work, use more cloud.

now.. does apple sue them for having stolen the cloud computing from them, too? that would make it perfect.

serval23
on Jun 14, 2011
Although this story puts a smile in my face, it just makes sense. With its push to the cloud Apple needs a lot of resources and so they buy it. Amazon & Microsoft are the biggest and best(?) suppliers.

Apple is very focused, server infrastructure is not their core business, so why shouldn't they buy these services, running own servers isn't for free either. They host important and confidential stuff on their own servers (imagine MS could look at the itunes server code, because its hosted on azure ;)) and let the others do the simple, heavily resource-consuming file hosting.


This is less a weakness on Apple's side, but a demonstration of Azures strength.




posttoast
on Jun 16, 2011
I really don't see what all the fuzz is about. For me, as an end-user, I really don't care if the servers are placed at Apple, Microsoft or on the moon. It's not about the infrastructure, it's about the software that I will use. The software will make the difference, not all the stuff behind the curtain. So is this ironic or hypocritical? I'd argue it's neither.
ianaldrighetti
on Jun 17, 2011
Then what are those massive server farms for? Is there nothing in them? I wonder if they are running Windows Server, wouldn't that be great?! If I remember right, the servers are Dell's, and I highly doubt OS X would be running on those.
jpetrides
on Sep 2, 2011
This would be hypocritical if they were leading us to believe that they were doing their own hosting. If anything - this just makes sense. I agree with Otto - why would Apple want to get into the server infrastructure business at all? These things always go down once in a while.. and when they do, every tech reporter in the country writes an article about it. Apple can't have ANY negative press, so it makes sense to stay away from server infrastructure and just focus on their products. I think the takeaway from this is... --> 1) Of course they are not hosting it on their own. 2) Big win for Azure!

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