$500 million in advertising??? Did I use the Jump the Shark joke already?

Let’s recap.

Apple has spent the last 2+ years mocking Windows Vista in advertising. God knows what they’ve spent on these ads over this time, but whatever.

Microsoft, to their detriment, failed to respond to these ads for almost two years. They did, however, spend this time improving Vista, most notably with Service Pack 1 (SP1) and the many other updates that shipped before and since. It’s worth noting, too, that the biggest problems with Vista were caused by third parties in the Windows ecosystem, but whatever.

This year, finally, Microsoft decided to respond to Apple’s ads—many of which made untrue claims, by the way—with their own series of ads. These include The Mohave Experiments ads, the Gates/Seinfeld series, and, of course, the excellent I’m A PC ads, which celebrate the diversity of the one billion plus PC users worldwide and what they accomplish every day with Windows. These latter ads, especially, make the Apple “I’m a Mac, I’m a PC” ads look arrogant and out of touch. Because they are.

Apple responded, as only they can, with more “I’m a Mac, I’m a PC” ads. (Hey, stick to what you know.) These included some ads that focused, inexplicably, on Microsoft’s advertising campaigns and how the software giant should have spent that money—$300 million, supposedly, though Microsoft has never confirmed that number—on “fixing Vista” instead of advertising. As noted above, Microsoft had “fixed” Vista a long long time before the ads appeared. And as I noted at the time, too, maybe Apple itself should have fixed its own incredibly buggy recent products—MobileMe, iPhone/iPhone 3G, and Leopard among them—instead of hypocritically and falsely calling out a competitor. (The Apple Way, incidentally, is ship first, ask questions later. Apple customers are all beta testers. It’s the reverse of how tech products are typically developed.)

Well, guess what?

Apple spent $486 million on advertising last year, $467 million the year before, and $338 million in 2006.

Ahahahaha.

Here’s the thing. Microsoft and Apple both spend a ton of money on advertising. They’re both big companies with big reach. Of course, Microsoft has more reach globally while Apple plays mostly in the US and other rich nations, which actually puts the numbers in even better perspective. But if the notion of Apple actually producing insider ads—in which it rags on a competitor for, get this, advertising—ads that, by the way, the typical consumers who seem them won’t even get—didn’t rile you at the time, they should now that we know how much it spent.

BTW, Microsoft spent $959.5 million in advertising last year. But then they’re considerably bigger than Apple, compete in far more product segments, and are in far more markets worldwide. So that makes sense. And let’s be clear: That budget is for all of the company’s many products but didn’t include any Windows advertising at all. If Microsoft did spend $300 million on advertising Windows this year, that was a first. And it must have spent about, what?, $17 to $19 (not a typo, just a joke) advertising Windows Mobile and Zune combined in the past year. Those are the only two other Microsoft products that compete with Apple products.

So. Apple spent more on ads over the past three years at least than Microsoft did on its competitive products. And it was Apple, not Microsoft, that then released ads mocking the other company … for spending money advertising.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Thanks to the many people who wrote in about this.

Discuss this Article 140

Lindy
on Nov 22, 2008
I will say that Fergie commercial is well done, and she is smokin hot. However that is HP commercial more than anything, you dont see the Windows mentioned until the last second. There is a glimpse, half second of WMP, with stuff flying out of it, but only a geek would know that from the small play button at the bottom. The rest is her, and colors flying around in the air. Also anything she does there can be done on a Mac, and right or wrong artistic people are usually thought to be Mac user. Stereotype of sorts.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 22, 2008
John Once again, and directed at you specifically, I find it very sad that the company that did Lisa and LaserWriter now thinks "nano-chromatic" is innovation and perhaps even more sad that their base is so complacent that they applaud this disgrace rather than burn Steve Jobs in effigy for what's happened to a once world-changing company.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
"They did, however, spend this time improving Vista, most notably with Service Pack 1 (SP1) and the many other updates that shipped before and since." Windows services packs are not much more than a bundle of the large number of security updates required to keep the OS remotely secure. "It’s worth noting, too, that the biggest problems with Vista were caused by third parties in the Windows ecosystem, but whatever." Whatever is right. Passing the buck again for a mediocre OS. Don't blame third parties for a bad OS. People waited six long years and expected more. What they got was more of the same with a new coat of pain. Vista 2 will be more of the same still. Vista sucks is not because of others. It's because of its creator, Microsoft. Plain and simple. But, whatever. "These include The Mohave Experiments ads" - a failure. "the Gates/Seinfeld series" - a cancelled failure. "and, of course, the excellent I’m A PC ads" - another failure. Excellent? There's no accounting for taste, is there? The "I'm a Dork PC" ads were not excellent. They simply copied the line from Apple. Again, unoriginal. I'll give the Seinfeld ads that token. They were original. Yet made no sense and hence they were cancelled. "As noted above, Microsoft had “fixed” Vista a long long time before the ads appeared." This could be argued. Vista by being Vista, in many people's eyes, in inherently flawed - even today. "Ahahahaha" What are you 12? Why not stick with things Windows? Or change the name of the blog. Your obsession with Apple bashing is extraordinary. The thing is, Apple tells the truth in their ads. It shows up Microsoft for being who they are - a convicted monopolist. A leopard (pun intended) never changes its spots. The core is the same. In the end, with all your whining Microsoft is still the new IBM. Big and boring. And no matter how hard you fanboys try, that will never change.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@mikegalos: "It could just be they've stopped targeting my demographic but has anyone noticed a pleasant lack of "I'm a Mac" ads lately? Its almost as if Apple got their two "Microsoft is spending money on advertising" ironyfests out there, saw that the polling numbers, realized that the joke was on Apple and cancelled their November ad buys" Wishful thinking. They keep on coming regularly like they always have. There is no way that anything that Microsoft has done will change Apples (or anyone else's) perception of Microsoft. There have been recent ads released. You wish.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@mikegalos: "For exampe, I could say that Microsoft's advertising and R&D mix have given them 96% of the global market" Don't forget that it helped them to be monopolist. Convicted as such too. That helped... lots.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@mikegalos: "Yes. Mac sales are up but not enough to justify the money spent on the ads." It also helps to clear up all the FUD that Microsoft generates about their stuff. It's also to let people know that there is stuff that is a lot better out there. That the McDonald's of the tech industry is not the best meal you can have. That Apple is a much better dining experience. That people don't have to eat the crud that Microsoft has been serving for decades. That's why the dollars are spent.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@lotsamystuff: "That's what makes Paul the Rush Limbaugh of the tech world." Ahahahaha. This made me LOL. It's funny cause it's true. The facts speak for themselves. http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5821/supersiteformicrosoftfatu1.png
johnpapola
on Nov 22, 2008
@Mike, The iPhone is changing the entire face of mobile computing, so I don't know what more you could expect from Apple. Seriously. They've delivered a completely new computing platform and in less than two years become a dominant player with a rich ecosystem of third party developers. The iPhone is enormously innovative and enormously influential. And again, they did the same with music, single-handedly revolutionizing the business. And they're clearly working hard on advancing the desktop in areas like multi-threading and GPGPU processing that are still in need of major advancement with Open CL and the coming updates in Snow Leopard. I believe Open CL just finalized in record time. Never mind that Apple beat Microsoft to market with many of the technologies that made Vista an improvement over XP. They're also continuing to do very innovative work in creative professional software at unbelievable prices relative to the competition. Perhaps you'd prefer it if they spun their wheels in unprofitable ventures across every aspect of tech like Microsoft does (gaming, mobiles, search). Instead, they've been busy launch two completely new and wildly successful businesses (music and mobiles) while continuing to grow their computer business in the double digits. But everyone here knows what you're about, Mike. Innovation only counts if you deem it innovation... which means it only counts if Microsoft is doing it. That you choose to ignore these things and focus on marketing like "nano-chromatic" is because you're not intellectually honest. This whole routine about Apple having contributed nothing since the Lisa or the laserwriter is just pure, grade A, bull$hit. Just like your contention that Apple had monopoly power in the computer space (now rejected officially by the courts for it's obviousness). I'm trying to be respectful here, but your positions don't really warrant it. I'm only wasting my time on writing this (despite knowing you're incapable of recognizing it) because I'm sick and sitting on the couch, bored, and tired or reading about the economy. God bless.
tayme
on Nov 22, 2008
@robertsjoe - You are truly obsessed with Apple, aren't you? It is amazing to watch. If you have never read about our old friend bonch, you should look him up. You'd get along with him. Thanks for the entertainment!!! --tayme
johnpapola
on Nov 22, 2008
@robertsjoe, Microsoft does deserve enormous credit for dramatically improving security. They are an effective firm when they have competition, as we've seen with IE, Silverlight, Xbox as well as Windows Server. But like most companies, the absence of competition inevitably leads to decay. Of course, none of that explains why Windows Mobile sucks.
tayme
on Nov 22, 2008
Remember, one of mikegaos' many claimed career stops was as an evangelist for Microsoft. Mike is the Jerry Falwell of this site...and robertsjoe is like the Jim Baker. They both think that their version of the truth is the only correct version, and in most cases, they are both wrong. --tayme
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@tayme: Are you saying that this is a Republican blog for Microsoft? Channelling Dick Cheney?
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@johnpapola: "Microsoft does deserve enormous credit for dramatically improving security. " I don't disagree that they do some good things, I am not completely oblivious to that. But they are given credit (by this blog and others on here) for things that they don't deserve credit for. Plus there's a lot of anti-Apple FUD generated on the Supersite for WINDOWS blog and by the likes of mikegalos and others. Unfair and biased, that seems to be some people's motto. "Of course, none of that explains why Windows Mobile sucks." Because there was no one before to show them how to do it? ;)
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@tayme: "You are truly obsessed with Apple, aren't you? It is amazing to watch." If so, it's exactly the same thing that can be said about Paul and the Microsoft fanboys on this site. bonch?!
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
"Remember, one of mikegaos' many claimed career stops was as an evangelist for Microsoft." Something started by Guy at Apple. Copied that too mike?
DRWAM
on Nov 22, 2008
It's funny how you seem to be more aware of these ads after this discussion. I just drove back from McD's and heard " Get KYW news on your iPhone" and the Target ad on our table has a Zune ad on the back cover. I still want to bite Fergie's butt.
subzerohitman721
on Nov 22, 2008
This whole squabble about the advertising doesn't surprise me one bit. Any good corporation would spend a good chunk of change on a good marketing department and effective advertisement. However, the only thing I dislike about the Apple ads are this: 1.) Deceptive and spreading stereotypes. 2.) Tells me nothing about the product. I got more out of the Fergie HP commercial about the functions of their computers than any Mac "Switcher" ad. That explains why my dad is running an HP. He could identify with the commercials and the reasonable price. Microsoft has done a damn good job with beefing up security. Right now as I have stated the facts over and over, Apple has a serious security issues. Its systemic of their lack of beta programs and accountability with consumers. If they had an open process subject to honest scrutiny by the press, Apple would be more criticized than praised. They do make good products. Its just the arrogant "Culture of Smug" that we get from rabid Mac fans and the press thats a real turn off. Its guys like Lindy, bettleblu, Ocean, and RobertsJoe that really turn me away from Apple. Nor do I want to be associated with that kind of rabid fans. At the same token mikegalos doesn't do anything to polish the image of Microsoft users at all. I think both instigate things when there's nothing to really instigate. Vista outsells Leopard 30 to 1. How effective is the advertising when you're losing by that margin? To me that says it and is ultimately the bottom line. 2009 will be the 16th year for Windows dominance of the marketplace after anti-trust, court rulings, Mac Commercials, and the rise of rabid fans. At the same time, Apple isn't hurting one bit. The more things supposedly change, the more they stay the same. Peace.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@subzerohitman721: "I think both instigate things when there's nothing to really instigate." In this case it was all instigated by yet another flame-bait anti-Apple rant on this blog.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
The point of the Apple ads is that Microsoft spent all that money on ads telling you about Vista, it's that they should be spending it in fixing Vista's problems.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
BTW, Microsoft did not spend $959.5 million on advertising. They spent $1.2b. Big difference. Bet the post is not updated to be made "factoid" like. http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/789019/000119312508162768/d10k.htm
subzerohitman721
on Nov 22, 2008
@robertsjoe In this case it was all instigated by yet another flame-bait anti-Apple rant on this blog. My Take: Yet I've yet to hear you compliment Microsoft for one thing. From you we always hear, "Microsoft sucks and the users have no style, blah blah blah." Dude, seriously. Apple has many reasons to be criticized and you're "Apple can do no wrong" holier than thou is getting old. How do those iPhones work so well? Its because they're using Microsoft Exchange. No exchange, no iPhone. Its as simple as that. Great product but it has Microsoft products being implemented in its functions. You're just as bad as MikeGalos, if not more insidious. I think chuckb84 said on the previous entry was right about getting a life being so appropriate on this blog.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
" And let’s be clear: That budget is for all of the company’s many products but didn’t include any Windows advertising at all" And let's be clear: The budget from Apple of $486 was for all of the company’s many products but didn’t include any OS X advertising at all. Why not mention that? There are many ads that are for the iPhone. Tonnes of TV and print and online ads for the iPhone. Nothing to do with OS X. You were talking about Vista right? So the iPhone would have nothing to do with it. Why not mention that $486 is not what was spent on just OS X ads? No, of course not.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@subzerohitman721: "yet I've yet to hear you compliment Microsoft for one thing." There is so much that's incorrect and FUD around that there's no time to compliment MS. Things I like about what MS has done? - VisualStudio. Great dev environment. Lots of great work there. - SQL Server. Great database. Enjoy working with it. Great free version too. - .NET. Incredible work done by Anders and the team. C# is a great language. Got the bad taste of VB out of people's mouths and offered something better than it and less of a hairball than C++. No, I'm not about just bagging MS. I'm about stopping FUD and anti-Apple posts for the sake of it. Factoids, people! Factoids! (BTW, if you didn't know, that's a reference to a collection of posts that started with "Factoid:". Microsoft does some very good work.
DRWAM
on Nov 22, 2008
Great ad for Dell Inspiron 530 in this weekend's Parade mag 'A PC THAT FITS YOUR NEEDS AND YOUR BUDGET' 'Plays and creates CD's and DVD's.' Has Vista Basic and only for $349. And subster. I'll be the first to admit that without Exchange, I would not on the iPhone.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
The $959.5 million figure still has not been updated to $1.2b. Come on night watchmen, get the facts right.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
Correction, where I said: "And let's be clear: The budget from Apple of $486 was for all of the company’s many products but didn’t include any OS X advertising at all." I meant: The budget from Apple of $486 was for all of the company’s many products and not JUST for OS X. Including iPhone, iPods, etc.
chipwinter
on Nov 22, 2008
robertsjoe: Dont' hold your breath waiting for Paul to correct things. About two weeks ago he went on a tirade about how Apple rejected an App from their App store and then said it was such a disgusting move, he felt like he had to shower. The real story was that the App was never submitted to Apple, thus never rejected. Never any mention of that here.
johnpapola
on Nov 22, 2008
@Subzero: "Vista outsells Leopard 30 to 1. How effective is the advertising when you're losing by that margin?" "Losing" at what? The game of business is one of product design, customer satisfaction, growth and profit. Market Share is utterly irrelevant once your platform has a large enough userbase to incentivize third party support. As Steve Jobs said long ago, Microsoft doesn't need to fail for Apple to succeed. This fixation on Mac market share as a valuable metric is for suckers (and hack/shills like Paul). Let's also not forget that Apple's direct competitors really are the hardware makers. This is why the advertising says "I'm a Mac... and I'm a PC." This is why Hodgeman refers to Vista as something not of himself but put upon him. Now, again for everyone, the reason Apple is using this advertising approach is that the computer market is saturated. In order to grow their base, Apple needs to convert Windows users as well as bring in first time computer buyers and repeat buyers. The spots are pure awareness. Get the simple notion "Mac are better than PCs" in people's heads and soften them up for their next swing past an Apple store. If you've had a problem with Vista that an ad touches on, you may just have your interest piqued. The Apple stores remain the key to Apple's growth because demonstrating the power of a computing platform like OSX is only effective in person. No :30 spot is going to get across the technical merits. Now, as for this idea that anyone choosing their computer based on the personality of online fanboys... I'm sorry for you if you do. That's a pathetic, infantile reason to pick your computer. There's clearly jerks shilling for both sides. Pick what works for you.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@chipwinter: "Dont' hold your breath waiting for Paul to correct things. About two weeks ago he went on a tirade about how Apple rejected an App from their App store and then said it was such a disgusting move, he felt like he had to shower." That is so annoying. When people spread such FUD then don't have the decency to make corrections.
johnpapola
on Nov 22, 2008
@Chipwinter, You're dead right. Paul went nuts about the Opera Mobile "denial" that never happened. Meanwhile, John Gruber got the real story and followed through. But Gruber has integrity and Paul has none. Not when it comes to Apple. Paul has fully devolved into a sad, bitter hack and a complete shill for Microsoft. He has the journalistic integrity of Rob Enderle, who posted glowing praise for a Dell music service/device for which he was a consultant while never mentioning his role in the articles. That Dell initiative died without ever seeing the light of day, btw. Of course Paul won't alter this post with real information (or look it up in the first place). Let's not forget that Paul spent YEARS talking about how the Mac market was "ending" and that playsforsure was destined to marginalize the iPod + iTunes. Paul is a part of Microsoft's marketing arm. This site might as well be an employee blog.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 22, 2008
This is amusing. The Apple brigade are now battling each other to prove who is the most rabid. Although my favorite is the person who works for a television network saying how market share doesn't matter. Of course, with his network's Nielsen ratings running less than 1 and share to match, I'd imagine he says that to himself every day... But, then, he also insists on telling us about iPhone's share at every opportunity... Curious.
bettieblu
on Nov 22, 2008
"Vista outsells Leopard 30 to 1. How effective is the advertising when you're losing by that margin?" Dont go into marketing, or business for that matter. If Vista sales pickup because of the I am PC adds, then they were effective. We know Mac sales have gone up dramatically since the "I am Mac" adds so we know it was very effective. Pretty much marketing 101. You don't have to like the adds from either side to objectively say that they were effective or not. Vista honestly does not compete with Leopard. It competes with XP. If Microsoft got every OS X user to convert to Vista, yet only 10% of the corporate world, then they have failed. I say that because the corporate world is where MS makes most of its money. As of July of 2008 only 8.8% of corporations have moved to Vista according to Forrester. Will they hit 20% before Windows 7?
techboy2000
on Nov 22, 2008
I think the "I'm a PC" ads are pathetic. Continually showing the sloppy and uncool unwashed masses is a big turn off. I couldn't believe they would show a middle aged man in a tank top saying "I'm a PC". Seeing Microsoft create unfunny, unentertaining, and unappealing advertisements makes me angry.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 22, 2008
"Remember, one of mikegaos' many claimed career stops was as an evangelist for Microsoft." Something started by Guy at Apple. Copied that too mike? " Absolutely. And Guy Kawasaki is an absolutely fantastic person and a totally class act who while being a fierce competitor is always an honest and honerable one. It's a shame that since he left Apple almost 20 years ago they've stopped evangelizing and switched to lying about competitors to preserve the image of the innovative underdog with a better way that he created in the 1980s. I still collect used copies of The Macintosh Way to give out to people at Microsoft as THE must read book on evangelism. I just finished re-reading it for at least the tenth time last month. Below is a case in point about Guy as a class act that I blogged about back in June 2006 (the copy on the link has better formatting and links if you feel like bothering but the text is below): http://mikegalos.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D67AAFB9181617CF!253.entry --------------------------- The Story is Out A little while after Word 2007 Beta 2 shipped to the general public Guy Kawasaki posted that he was looking for a program that would let him do WYSIWYG editing for his blog and even stated that he’d be willing to use a Windows PC. Now, that may not sound like much but remember that Guy was the original Macintosh Product Evangelist for Apple and is a legend in the Mac community. Not being about to resist, I sent Guy a note that the new Beta version of Word had exactly that feature. We bounced some mail back and forth for a while going over the features and UI for blogging and I didn’t think much more about it. Last weekend I woke up with mail from Guy in my Inbox. He’d gotten Word 2007 beta installed and running and wanted to know what he had to do to set up the blogging for his host. After a few more emails back and forth, Guy was blogging with a Microsoft Windows product. Now, as a courtesy, I didn’t mention this publicly until now because it wasn’t the right thing to do. Guy has been fair in his evangelism and is a class act all the way around and didn’t need to catch heat from the less rational side of the Mac world for the sin of using a PC product. Today, that embargo was lifted as Guy added a blurb about Word 2007 beta’s blogging feature in his blog and while he’s now blogging with two Mac applications he still put in a plug for Word. As I said, class act. And now that he’s gone public I feel like I can, too. P.S. If you haven’t read The Macintosh Way that Guy wrote about product evangelism , go, find a good used book store (like, say, Powell’s in Portland, OR) and track down a copy now. I’ll wait. It’s a must read and must re-read that I go through at least once every three years and I’ve got a hardback copy now so that I don’t wear it out.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 22, 2008
Since Paul's blogging software truncates the links: here's a tinyurl link to the same post about Guy and Word: http://tinyurl.com/6fx65r
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@johnpapola: "Paul went nuts about the Opera Mobile "denial" that never happened. Meanwhile, John Gruber got the real story and followed through." Completely agree. There's a big difference between a tabloid Microsoft fanboy blogger and someone with integrity of John.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@mikegalos: What? Aren't you going to correct Paul on his incorrect figure on what MS spend on sales and marketing? Of course not, it's not shilling. You guys aren't about facts. It's about being MS shills.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@mikegalos: " they've stopped evangelizing and switched to lying about competitors" Apple has not lied. Unlike MSFT.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@techboy2000: "Continually showing the sloppy and uncool unwashed masses is a big turn off." If you want to show real Windows users, you'll get just that.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@bettieblu: "If Vista sales pickup because of the I am PC adds, then they were effective." Sales and marketing for Windows is really something they don't need to do. So many millions of people are paying the Microsoft tax that there's no real alternative. So many companies, governments and the like have made the mistake of choosing Windows, it's too expensive now to get out. The Microsoft tax. "Vista honestly does not compete with Leopard. It competes with XP." You're kidding right? Vista is competing with OS 9. OS X is far ahead of any competition.
johnpapola
on Nov 22, 2008
@Mike, Good to see you at least own up to your active Microsoft evangelism. "my favorite is the person who works for a television network saying how market share doesn't matter." More blatant intellectual dishonest at work from Mr. Galos. Obviously, an advertising-based business like TV has market share as a big role. If you're pepsi and you're looking to get Mountain Dew ads in front of the biggest percentage of eyeballs possible, ratings (which is a share metric) matters. We don't sell widgets, Mike. We sell access to eyeballs. Brand plays a vital role in our business too, since demographics are driven by content and brand and advertisers are interested in particular demographics. Don't you worry, though. Spike is doing just fine even with our modest ratings thanks to a very targeted brand. In computers, on the other hand, market share only matters in individual segments because it determines the third party support. So Apple's mac share in the consumer space is large enough for a vibrant consumer product ecosystem. Same with education content creation, life sciences, etc. Overall share is meaningless and pursuing it at the expense of profit is a terrible business (it's what got Dell in so much trouble that Michael had to come back). Apple's growth means that their pricing looks fine. It's unknown whether lowering their prices would dramatically increase their volume enough to counter lost revenue. Maybe it would. Maybe it wouldn't. As for my reference to the success of the iPhone, I was merely pointing to that because it is objectively amazing. Even more impressive than the market share, though, is the customer satisfaction. All of the empirical evidence tells us that the iPhone is a huge success on all fronts. It's clearly and obviously a solution for more that people "interested in getting drinks with their friends after a day of shopping" which you proclaimed as the only audience for the iphone.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
More proof of just how MS goes about getting things wrong: http://www.techflash.com/Enderle_Microsoft_Ballmer_conflicting_reality34...
Mum
on Nov 22, 2008
Mac advertising is nearly non-existant on global scale. Vista was the biggest beta program anyone ever put out claiming it's a finished product. There are signs it'll never really get fixed. And M. Galos: still struggling to get the difference between 'innovation' and 'invention'? Which changes the world? Which really matters to consumers? And which R&D is aimed to generate?
SPiotr
on Nov 22, 2008
Some "factoids" for the US-centric amongst you. The "Get a Mac" TV campaign that bothers some of you so much only appeared in a handful of countries outside of North America. In the UK the campaign was web and posters only) If you want a snapshot of Apple's TV presence in the UK, this year, then here it is..... Some MacBook Air ads at the start of the year. (not many). iPod ads all year round but more around the launch of new products and the holidays. Some iPhone ads early in the year and many many more after the launch of the 3G. There also seems to be a new iPod Touch campaign. I don't know how that product mix compares with what you guys are seeing in the US (on TV) but I think it's safe to assume that, out of the $950 million that Apple has spent on advertising in the last two years .... a pretty large chunk was spent on NON-GetaMac ads. For those who suggest that that campaign is 'preaching to the converted' I suggest you take another look at Microsoft's "I'm a PC" ads. The basic premise is that 95% of people use a PC! (In fairness, they do it pretty well and it's a pretty tough sell) In the last 3 years, Apple has gone from selling 4.7 million Macs to 10 million. That is THREE TIMES the growth of the PC. With US PC growth being virtually nonexistent in the same three years... Apple's increased sales represent an even better gain. The GetaMac ads do not work in isolation so it's no point claiming that they are solely responsible for the increase in Mac sales. However to claim that the opposite is true is a complete falsehood. Incessantly repeating it (particularly without any evidence) does not make it true. PS. Great idea on how to save your advertising budget Mike. Just give your product away for free! Wish I had thought of that. ------
johnpapola
on Nov 22, 2008
On a side note, Gruber just linked to an interesting exchange between Rob Enderle and the top brass at Microsoft about the utter stupidity of the multiple SKUs for Vista. For once, I agree with this guy. Amazing that the numbskulls at Microsoft clearly got this from all sides and still proceeded with this scheme for confusing consumers in an effort to raise the ASP. http://www.techflash.com/Enderle_Microsoft_Ballmer_conflicting_reality34...
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
"Amazing that the numbskulls at Microsoft clearly got this from all sides and still proceeded with this scheme for confusing consumers in an effort to raise the ASP." And people like Mike preach the mistake. Claiming that it's actually good. I guess if your master feeds you shit, you eat it.
johnpapola
on Nov 22, 2008
Sorry for the double post about something off-topic.
tayme
on Nov 22, 2008
Ka-ching!!! Penton Media and Paul Thurrott would like to thank you all for making this a profitable Saturday. --tayme
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
@tayme: "Ka-ching!!! Penton Media and Paul Thurrott would like to thank you all for making this a profitable Saturday." Profitable, maybe. Credible? Not so much.
robertsjoe
on Nov 22, 2008
"Ka-ching!!! Penton Media and Paul Thurrott would like to thank you all for making this a profitable Saturday." The funny thing is, I think that's why there's such a high number of flame-bait anti-Apple rants. To pay the bills.

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