Apple: Our advertising is clearly bull@#$%. Clearly.

whiplash As I said, if you get to Seattle, I'd advise it.

DRWAM I doubt it but I'm not sure since the subject of delivery to New Jersey, not surprisingly, never came up. Maybe you could look them up on maps.live.com using your $400 Vista laptop and ask!

Lawyer speak time, The reality is that in the legal system there is a concept of a "Reasonable Man" or today "Reasonable Person." The legal dates back to the late 1800s and became one of the basic ideas in legal formalism. The idea is how would a "reasonable person" react under certain circumstances? For example, if you are being tried for murder and are using the self defense as your legal defense, you will be held to the actions of a "reasonable person." That is, would a reasonable person under similar circumstances behave in a similar manner? If the answer is in the affirmative than you should be acquitted, if the answer is that you did not act in a manner that was reasonable, than you should be convicted. So Apple's defense MUST be that a reasonable person would accurately interpret the ad as being a optimistic in the performance of the car. For example, VW had a commercial a few years ago showing one of their Passat's driving insanely around town, making jumps and doing amazing stunts, would a "reasonable man" believe that their Passat could do such things without being damaged? Thus, the criticism of the lawyers use of reasonable man is just wrong, You could argue, that the ad was wrong and it misrepresented the product in which case Apple's lawyers side would lose. As for whether Apple's ad was deceptive, I would first argue that ALL advertising is to some degree deceptive. Beer doesn't make me more attractive. Axe body spray is NOT going to make women chase me down the street. If I buy a Porsche I am not suddenly going to become a F-1 driver. On the one hand, I can see why Apple would speed up the phone, because, after all they are trying to demonstrate what the phone can do, but only have 30 seconds to show the ad. However since the ad stresses the speed of the phone, and the discrepancy is so great, I would argue that at the least Apple should pull the ad, and end some of this negative publicity. As far as settling the lawsuit, I think the real difficulty is for the plaintiffs to actually show some monetary harm. Regards Joe Dokes

@DRWAM - Actually, I am just about to go hit the gym now...45 minutes on an elliptical and a couple of rounds on the circuit machines about 5 times a week now for a few months...Its working, but I do tend to like food...and I have no self control. I need to either increase the number of calories burned or decrease what I eat...I think I am right up there with Michael Phelps on caloric intake!!! -tayme

I did not see the new disclaimer about speed, but I think that a reasonable or average person could easily believe that the iPhone was as fast as advertised. The old disclaimer was just not enough as posted many times, that the shown speed were never achievable. Damage would be the cost of the phone and early termination, but I can't see much more. It could be less if someone was already a customer of ATT and stated that they were not going to switch providers. OT, keep it up tayme. I'll save a pair of speedo's for us;) Also, decreasing fats would result in less calories in the same volume of food. Still my mom lost weight better when she actually weighed her food portions. Before kids, my wife and I would cook just enough to eat. Therefore, we would not over-eat. 3 kids later and she now has to use the treadmill, since there's tons of food and even more junk. God it's good to be an ectomorph!