Day of reckoning: Q1 2009 PC market share figures arrive

Well, Gartner and IDC have weighed in on what everyone agrees was a down quarter for the PC industry (Q1 2009). The figures break down like this:

Worldwide PC sales (averaged between Gartner and IDC): 65.34 million

US PC sales: 15.13 million

According to Gartner, worldwide PC sales fell year-over-year by 6.5 percent in the quarter; IDC says the decline was 7.1 percent.

US PC sales fell just .3 percent, Gartner says; IDC reports a 3 percent decline in the US.

The top 5 PC vendors, worldwide, are:

1. HP
2. Dell
3. Acer
4. Lenovo
5. Toshiba

In the US, the top five PC vendors are:

1. HP
2. Dell
3. Acer
4. Apple
5. Toshiba

The big trends in the quarter:

- PC sales weren't as bad as expected. That is, sales fell, but not as much as anticipated.

- Dell is tanking. They fell from the number one spot in the US for the first time in years but saw massive market share declines (in the 16-17 percent range worldwide and in the US)

BTW, I will use the figures quote above to measure Mac market share for Q1 2009 when Apple releases their quarterly results. Preliminary numbers are inconclusive: Both Gartner and IDC show that Mac sales were down slightly year over year in the US. Neither company provides data for Apple's worldwide sales because Apple is not in the top five globally. But we can nail that number down soon. My guess is that Apple will lose a very small amount of market share globally and be flat in the US. Given the exorbitant prices they charge, that's not too shabby.

Discuss this Article 79

chipwinter
on Apr 16, 2009
Dell is tanking, and they don't charge exorbitant prices. If I want Dell to stick around, I'd suggest they raise their prices.
CapnScurvy
on Apr 16, 2009
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anonymous
on Apr 16, 2009
You'll never catch me, Cap'n! If you want me, you'll just have to pay the full dollar or give me something shiny. Ooh, is that tinfoil?
planetarian
on Apr 16, 2009
These trolls are getting seriously ridiculous.
stevejobs
on Apr 16, 2009
Back off, Captain! She's mine, all mine! Her cold, pasty white skin inspired my minimalist approach to design.
Dipsh t Admin
on Apr 16, 2009
I've got my popcorn ready, as I'm sure this one is going to be a doozy... And I agree about the trolling. Paul, can you do IP bans of these people?
Avro
on Apr 16, 2009
I have had Dells in the past and I rather like them, but they really have to do better. I used the chat facility on their website (which is about as horrible as a website can be - once I found 3 different prices for the same computer). I was asking questions about their warranty and as I often am stationed abroad asked about international support. In order to get that I was told that I must buy an additional extended warranty and also an international warranty. I asked about the price and they told me that they changed every Thursday. I asked about the price TODAY and they would not give me a response. FWIW my Aluminium MacBook which I bought in November cost me £40 ($60) for 3 years of AppleCare and it was good for ANYWHERE in the world. I hasten to add that this was the Higher Ed price as I am working on another degree. Dell has to do better, a lot better.
Ocean
on Apr 16, 2009
>>Dell is tanking, and they don't charge exorbitant prices.<< Insanely great point. >>My guess is that Apple will lose a very small amount of market share globally and be flat in the US. Given the exorbitant prices they charge, that's not too shabby.<< See above.
SnakeDoctor
on Apr 16, 2009
Todays news... In the worst global recession in 40 years, sales of goods such as computers are down. The Sun will rise and set within the same 24 hour period. Now for some Microsoft/Windows news please go to.... http://www.pcworld.com/article/163153/more_zune_hd_details_emerge.html
DRWAM
on Apr 16, 2009
I agree, but I've seen a lot of old Dell's still puttering along. Just erase the hard drive, reinstall XP and some can get more mileage.
weedmonk
on Apr 16, 2009
Paul you must remember that Mac's make about 1/3 of Apples current revenues. They are CE company making PC's bundled with a novelty OS that's popular among the bi-coastal US market and certain other niches. Somehow that translates into press coverage that indicates they are a major player/alternative in the global context. 60/40 almost. The MSFT commercials hit on it when they highlight Africans, Asians and exotic 'names' like Giampaulo where Leo Laporte doens't even want to make the effort to pronounce. God forbid it was Indian national so he could break out the Apu accent. About 5/6 of humanity technically isn't worthy of Apple or its stores. Computing begins and ends with the a certain effette preening and distinct demographic. Thats why these ad's are golden.
Avro
on Apr 16, 2009
@DRWAM I certainly don't disagree, but Dell has got to get new/repeat customers. They seem to be going elsewhere.
tayme
on Apr 16, 2009
@Paul - Too bad that your sites and blogs have devolved into such a joke, it used to be my favorite place for IT news. I think that there are a couple of reasons for this...first, your lack of moderation. A simple little ignore feature would go a long way. Second, your continued bashing of Apple and its fringe users. You seem to get a little pleasure each and every day by throwing little jabs in where they could be simply left out. Maybe you are fishing for clicks...maybe not...I'll keep reading and finding my own sick pleasure in the amount of entertainment that is provided, but for real Windows news, I'll go to MJF's site - http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/ By the way, mikegalos - care to define the term "teabagging" that you used this morning in your standard leftist tactic of trying to quash anybody that you disagree with? I am sure that you won't do so, at least not truthfully...just like Anderson Cooper - http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/04/15/cnns-anderson-coop... --tayme
Avro
on Apr 16, 2009
@ weedmonk Actually the Apple numbers are closer to 50/50 computers/consumer electronic devices Windows fans sometimes assume that Macs are only popular in the US. Actually they are popular in many English speaking countries and Western Europe. The strategy has been profitable for Apple and they might expand beyond this but they don't really need to.
anonymous
on Apr 16, 2009
BEGINTRANSMIT @Tayme - I find your insistence upon interjecting trivial carbonform political rants into the important matters of earthbound Information Technology discussed here to be a distraction. The feudal matters of your society concern me little. To the biped known as @Paul, I suggest immediate elimination of this offender! Bring him to the Hall of Reckoning, and as Burlaq the Reasoned One dealt with Lephaceous the Chatterer, dismantle his atomic structure with micron tweezers. ENDTRANSMIT
johnbaxter
on Apr 16, 2009
"Dell is tanking" Baxter to the rescue ;) My Dell is on the truck for delivery (out of Port Angeles). Unfortunately, the monitor missed the truck from Portland and is down there waiting for a ride to PA for delivery tomorrow. Odd in that the boxes rode together from North Carolina to Portland. Whatever Apple's numbers turn out to be, they seem good enough that the "Apple is doomed because they missed the Netbook" crowd may be thought to be off base. At least for now.
Ocean
on Apr 16, 2009
>>I'll keep reading and finding my own sick pleasure in the amount of entertainment that is provided, but for real Windows news, I'll go to MJF's site - blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft<< Thats cold.
DRWAM
on Apr 16, 2009
Yep AVRO, I agree. My partners are ordering less Dell's and more Mac's and HP's and Sony's. I have noticed anecdotally that the HP's and Sony's don't seem to last as long as the Dell's. They seem to replace them sooner than the Dell's [and Mac's of course..duh!]
Waethorn
on Apr 16, 2009
Just looking at the sales here, HP, Dell, and Acer all sell netbooks. I don't recall Toshiba or Lenovo selling any, and Apple sure as h3ll doesn't. What model of netbook do you normal people actually like? Anybody like the netbooks from the top 3? Side-question: does ASUS/ASmobile build netbooks for the top 3?
Waethorn
on Apr 16, 2009
BTW, Cap'n: Nobody wants to see your 'Q-tip', so put it back in your pants.
CapnScurvy
on Apr 16, 2009
Avast ye, Waethorn! If ye be referrin' to me Rock o' Gibraltar, ye'd be well-advised to not be considerin' it a mere peg boy's- it be well enough girthy to please ye mom, whom I have harpooned many a time with it. Arrrrggghhhh!!!
bettieblu
on Apr 16, 2009
This blog is crumbling fast. What is with all the weird posts, even though some are funny? @tayme how did that tea party thing really go? I can listen to the likes of say Hanity because he will say it was a huge success, while he spend every waking moment HATING Obama and crew. Cant turn on MSNBC either since they will spin it as a failure, so I guess I will never know. A few questions though, when Bush tripled our debt where were these people? Especially when he signed in Tarp 1???? I did read that there is a major rif between the Tea party group that are/were Ron Paul followers, and the likes of Hanity/Rush. Apparently Hanity ripped off their message. The GOP is falling apart fast. Not that I am huge fan of Obama, but I am more than willing to give him at least a year to put the US back on the right path after 8 years of deregulated, warmongering greed.
bettieblu
on Apr 16, 2009
I thought ASUS was the market leader in netbooks??? I have to agree with some here, I just dont get the netbook craze. Then again I think twitter is nothing but digital diarrhea of the mouth. Maybe I am too old at 42.
anonymous
on Apr 16, 2009
Oh Wae, baby, you never let me have any fun. The nice captain was on shore leave, and just wanted to cork my bunghole. I swear, sometimes you're so uptight about these sorts of things!
tayme
on Apr 16, 2009
@bettieblu - The local one that I went to was good. There were about 1000 people there. A lot has been lost in thinking that it is only about not wanting to pay taxes...that is not it at all. I agree, you can't listen to Hannity, Limbaugh, or MSNBC/CNN/mikegalos. You have to listen to the real people that were there. But, I'll leave the politics alone for this blog... --tayme
Saucy
on Apr 16, 2009
@the whole bunch of you I just thank God I drink coffee. @bettieblu Not too old, just too sensible. While I *guess* I get the netbook craze - they are cute and might fit in a car's glove box - in fact, I don't get it. They are too small and cramped .. if you try one (and I have) they can also be terriblly slow. They are inexpensive so that might be a factor, but for just a bit more one can get a low end full laptop. For the meantime, I think I will stick with my laptop, lol.
Dipsh t Admin
on Apr 16, 2009
"after 8 years of deregulated...greed" SOX compliance was one of the biggest regulations to ever be forced on business. And let's not forget the Community Reinvestment Act, which was yet another regulation that further sent us down a path of inflated home values, all because the government wanted to "intervene" in the free markets. And the failed Freddie, which Rahm Emanuel was on the board of and oversaw tons of accounting irregularities, which would contribute to the downfall of the quasi-government agency. Seems to me that government tends to cause more problems than good when it overly gets involved in the free market. As I've said before on here, the blame for the current financial mess goes well around to everyone. The government in general, the Fed, banks, realtors, financial pundits, and individuals hoping to flip a run down house located in a bad neighborhood and expect 100's of thousands over the real value. The party had to end some day. I attended a tea party yesterday. It was refreshing, but there were also some fringe crazies there as well. No doubt it is being reported poorly by the NY Slimes, MSNBC and CNN. It was to be one of many protests that are being staged through a grass roots effort. Just like the Obama campaign, so the left really has nothing to complain about. And where were these people when Bush was spending like mad? First, his increase in spending will be a pittance compared to Obama's. And, what would the point be? We already had a media and Hollywood that hated him, and protests galore. I can't see additional protests be worthwhile. And remember, we got a tax cut, not an increase. And before someone says the 95% of people getting a tax cut, tell me next April what that equals. And then tell me the increased costs of goods and services when/if cap and trade gets passed. Then tell me whether you were better off under Obama or Bush. Netbook wise, ASUS is certainly a big leader, as is Acer, Dell, Lenovo and HP. Sony too, but I don't necessarily count the P as a netbook necessarily. If I were to buy one, a HP 2140 would be it. Although, I'd wait for Windows 7 to be available. I also agree that some of these brand new posters are sometimes funny, but really annoying. Paul, you are going to have to do something about it. It's probably just bonch using his "honey" to do this.
bettieblu
on Apr 16, 2009
"And, what would the point be? We already had a media and Hollywood that hated him, and protests galore" Um well to me it would transcend hypocrisy. If you felt strongly about out of control spending then you would have protested no matter your party affiliations. Wrong is wrong. Bush spent a fortune, and let the deregulation of wall street happen. I read recently that when the people in charge of AIG finally realized that they were in trouble, they had no idea what was going on with the group that had created the crazy offerings that had got them in trouble. There were so complex and never before seen that they had a hard time following what their employees had created. It went on to further state that it was only possible because of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley banking deregulation laws of 1999. We need regulation, uptick rule, and massive transparency to fix this utter mess. Sadly we need lots of money as well. How much, I dont think anyone knows. I think Obama and crew have seen some crazy bad news, just like Bush did, stuff that is not being given out to us, that scares the crap out of them, about financial collapse/depression and they are trying everything they can to avoid some really ugly scenario. There is lots of blame to go around, with Barny Frank and Freddi/Fanny junk and I think its so utterly complex that no one really has the full answer.
Waethorn
on Apr 16, 2009
"I thought ASUS was the market leader in netbooks???" They are, for the most part anyway. The rest of their systems aren't as popular though, because they market them as highly-fashionable higher-spec machines, kinda like Sony. They don't mass produce them as low-cost machines as Dell does, and they don't have the brand recognition to market them as HP does. ASUS does very well as an ODM for HP and Apple though. ASUS and Acer are the two top netbook makers, with Dell pushing the Mini line close behind them.
weedmonk
on Apr 16, 2009
@Avro I'm not manufacturing that metric. Just refer yourself to their last fiscal report to glean that metric.
bettieblu
on Apr 16, 2009
@saucy I have tried netbooks, and I would say they are good to lookup something quick on the internet and that is about it. For anything else, typing a document of more than a paragraph they are too small, watching a movie to small, listening to music to big, playing a game not powerful enough and clunky. They are cheap and I can see them being used for limited functions while mobile, when you could not bring your full size keyboard notebook, or your iPhone/Windows Mobile sucked even worse for typing on. I am sure someone can think of a application in those constraints.
bettieblu
on Apr 16, 2009
Yeah at Target they have nothing but ASUS, I think????
weedmonk
on Apr 16, 2009
@avro "Actually the Apple numbers are closer to 50/50 computers/consumer electronic devices " Off pixie dust? Mac's are and have been decreasing coefficient of AAPL's revenues. Which goes proportionaly against the opinion makers.
DaveyJ
on Apr 16, 2009
Hey Paul and Company. Long time lurker on the site, never once logged in and said anything. Cheap shots: those that say this blog is crumbling fast. I enjoy the information you present...and then the commentary after from everyone and their brother...it just makes the site more fun. Some of it serious, some of it funny, and some of it grossly off topic (You know who you all are :) ) All of it makes it more fun to read than a dry, technical website. Of course, I'm not an IT person (which might be the reason why I like your site better)...I'm just a teacher...but I train everyone in technology from students to my fellow teachers alike, and like to stay ahead of the curve and see what's coming. (The Windows 7 beta is running my English computer lab at the moment...the students think it's great.) Great...now I'm off topic too! So in short...you're not crumbling, you're my daily slice of tech-world info, and humor all combined. Keep it up.
Avro
on Apr 16, 2009
@weedmonk Sales of Mac desktops, laptops, peripherals, software and services were $4.53 billion for Q1 2009 Sales of iPods, iPhones and Music for Q1 2009 were $5.63 Billion Source SEC filings That puts it at 46% for computers and services and 54% for consumer electronics and music. If you drop the music from the equation it is about 50:50 computers/consumer electronics.
DRWAM
on Apr 16, 2009
FYI, at the hospital Physicans IT Committee, which was mostly by more IT staff than doctors, over 50% had netbooks. Last year, most had laptops and/or smartphones. I gotta agree with bettieblu that the netbooks are just too small for some of us, especially me. Also, I would prefer to have Win 7 on it than Linux for better compatibility for my stuff. However, I'm sure that my kids will want one soon when they're old enough. PS The hospital is using ZYNX for the computer entry orders. They keep telling us that we will be seeing Microsoft's Amalga 'more and more', but I don't know to what capacity.
bettieblu
on Apr 16, 2009
I could possibly see having a netbook, if I went on a vacation and I wanted to check email, and other web based stuff (directions to places), and maybe off load photos off my camera. The only reason would be size, if it was just as easy to bring my 13inch notebook then I would go that route. In that vacation scenario I describe a small tablet, large iTouch type of device would be even better. Maybe with screen the size of a netbook.
hamiltonstallings
on Apr 16, 2009
Hopefully the netbook fad will end and a rebound will occur with a new fad: Gigantic laptops. 40 - 50 inch screens, quad SLI, multiple keyboards depending on where your standing so you can reach the nearest one.
DRWAM
on Apr 16, 2009
My $399 Vista laptop has a 15.6 in widescreen. Real low rez, and it weighs around 6 lbs, but it has all that I need, so carrying a few more lbs and a wider space won't make much of a difference. It's dimensions are around 10 x 15 inches, which is small compared to me ;).
hamiltonstallings
on Apr 16, 2009
"It's dimensions are around 10 x 15 inches, which is small compared to me ;). " I see what you did there.
ivymike
on Apr 16, 2009
Yaaaawn... burp.
robertsjoe
on Apr 16, 2009
"Given the exorbitant prices they charge, that's not too shabby." Does Microsoft pay per each shill? Ballmer thanks you. The cheque's in the mail.
slimshadey
on Apr 16, 2009
robertsjoe
on Apr 16, 2009
@slimshadey: Describes PC users completely. PC users will now be referred to as Homeless Frank.
slimshadey
on Apr 16, 2009
slimshadey
on Apr 16, 2009
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/01/18/dan-lyons-paul-thurrott-the-fak... Paul Thurrott and the Amiga. Thurrott has lived the majority of his adult life bitter and angry about Apple. He started out his tech career as an Amiga fan. This is an important detail to consider because there was something about Commodore’s Amiga that attracted an intensely religious fervor that even Commodore’s death couldn’t extinguish. For extremist nerds, the Amiga was Elvis, Jesus, alien abduction, heroine, the Qur’an, and the Klingon language all wrapped up into one product and branded with a name that suggested the idea of having a hot Spanish girlfriend: a life changing, unforgettable fantasy that had to be aggressively advocated until death.
tayme
on Apr 16, 2009
@slimshady and Bobbi Jo - You do realize that the drunk bum wanted a Mac PC, not a Windows PC, right? I'd say its a closer description of the outer fringe Mac iCabalists. --tayme
slimshadey
on Apr 16, 2009
@tayme how is the teabagging going?
gorath
on Apr 16, 2009
That roughly drafted article is hysterical. Does the author truly believe that his opinion is balanced and level-headed? Really?

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