A great Google article, the difference between 'easy' and 'simple,' and why this is a problem for Windows 7

The New York Times' David Carr wrote something that made me really sit up and take notice this morning, and for so many reasons that it's actually kind of hard to explain.

First, the basic premise of his article, which I agree with totally, is that Google's Web applications have taken hold with a certain audience because they're so simple:

Not long ago, someone invited me out to the Googleplex, the nickname for Google’s headquarters in Mountain View, Calif.

The fact is, I already live there. And it’s starting to worry me.

My increasingly exclusive relationship with Google started with search, of course, when I switched from Yahoo years ago. Eventually I accepted an invitation to Gmail, with its oodles of storage and very granular search function, and it has oddly become my default database — deep, rich and personal … I added the company’s calendar because I needed one I could share both inside and outside of work. And then the calendar and e-mail started talking to each other — and to me, I guess — by asking whether I wanted to schedule an event that was mentioned in an incoming message. Although it sort of creeped me out, the answer was yes, which it almost always is when it comes to Google.

[And so on. You get the idea.]

“The most powerful form of advertising is to be exceptional,” said Ranjit Mathoda, an investor and technologist who blogs at Mathoda.com. “Google has created an ecosystem that perpetuates itself by being useful.”

With Google, it is always simple, and any engineer will tell you that simple is hard.

If Google owns me, it’s probably because I am in favor of what works.

OK. This is all very obvious, right? Google’s Web applications are simple—they are—and a certain audience out there really appreciates that. One might argue that this approach—simplicity instead of an over-abundance of functionality—is also a big part of what is driving Apple’s successes right now. Many people prefer things that just work, even if the span of what’s possible is less vast than with competing solutions. Windows, by comparison, is arguably a bit much. It does more (yes, I know people with argue with that, but this isn’t really the point of this post) but does so with a more unwieldy interface.

So.

Since this is Google we’re talking about and Microsoft is about 3/5 of the way through releasing its Windows Live Wave 3 services and applications, it’s hard not to draw some parallels here. After all, Microsoft is in the midst of doing what Microsoft does: It’s releasing a massive platform. There are an unprecedented number of new and updated services (see my preview). And there is an entire suite of new and improved applications (see my preview). And they work in concert with each other in ways that are both exciting and, well, complicated. Not simple.

With that in mind, witness this bit from the aforementioned article:

Mr. Huber countered that I am free to come and go as I wish.

“The nice thing is that we don’t force you to use only our stuff,” he said. “It is not tied tightly together, and the content is all easily exportable. If you feel like we are letting you down, or you don’t like our products or we are failing to innovate, you can pick up and go where you want.”

Microsoft’s online stuff is very much tightly tied together. And while the company gets some props for making Windows Live interoperate with a huge range of third party services, you can’t help but notice that Microsoft can’t help being Microsoft. They didn’t just randomly add Flickr support to Windows Live Photo Gallery one day and Blogger support to Windows Live Writer three days later like Google might have done, noting it only in a blog posting. No, they are releasing a massive and complex platform that will bewilder users. Heck, it bewilders people like me who are pretty well involved in this industry. That’s what Microsoft does. And it’s not necessarily the right approach.

But that’s not all that this triggered.

I want to talk about Windows 7 a bit. I’ve been examining a number of builds of Microsoft’s next operating system for a while now, and I have to say, for all the goodness that’s happening there, there is something wrong, and it’s been stuck in the back of my mind. I haven’t really been able to enunciate what that problem is because I hadn’t really identified it yet. Until this morning.

Reading Mr. Carr’s article, it occurred to me that the problem with Windows 7 is the same thing that’s the problem with Mac OS X. That is, Microsoft is confusing “easy” with “simple.”

For example, Mac users have claimed for years that Mac OS X is “easy to use,” when in fact it is anything but. Mac OS X is simple. As noted above, simple is hard [to engineer]. And we should all give Apple credit for that. But simple is not the same as easy. One basic example: The Mac OS X desktop is a barren place with no obvious starting point. And the people who feel that it is easy are fooled because they are simply used to it. Things that are familiar seem easy. But they’re not necessarily easy to those who are unfamiliar with that thing or, in the case of potential Switchers, are familiar with something else. The Mac OS X desktop is simple. But it is not easy.

By contrast, the Windows desktop is easy in that it provides an obvious starting point (a Start button) and because Microsoft and its PC maker partners go a bit over the top presenting information to the user on first boot. Critics will argue that this also makes Windows convoluted. And they’re right, as it turns out. It’s hard to get the right mix of simple and easy. Apple errs to much on the side of simple, in my opinion. But Microsoft errs somewhere else: They overwhelm the user with functionality in a bid to make sure it works for everyone. All too often, the result is something that works for very few people.

OK, that’s Windows today. But what about Windows 7? As I and others have written, Windows 7 is all about a complete reexamination of the Windows OS. Microsoft has probed into every visible and invisible corner of the system and tweaked virtually everything. The result is, condescendingly, “Vista done right” or, in my mind, simply a very finely tuned tool. As a friend noted via IM the other day, [I’m paraphrasing here], it’s pretty clear that what we’ve seen so far in Windows 7 is it. There’s nothing more coming. And I don’t know whether to be excited by that or freaked.

The problem with Windows 7 is that Microsoft is copying the Mac, again. No, they’ll never really make Windows as simple as Mac OS X, though by God they’re going to try. And the reason they won’t is because you can’t simply erase decades of piling on functionality on top of functionality. Windows will always be a Swiss Army knife. You can’t escape your heritage.

Windows 7 copies Mac OS X in ways that are bad. I will give one specific example here, but save the rest for a more formal article: The new taskbar copies Mac OS X’s terrible Dock by allowing you to mix and match shortcuts (to applications and windows that are not running) and buttons that represent applications and windows that are running. Those running apps and windows can be visible or hidden, and there are subtle changes to the taskbar buttons to note that. You can drag and drop these buttons into any order you want. Looking at my taskbar right now, I see these types of buttons in this order: Shortcut (not running), Shortcut (not running), Shortcut (running), Shortcut (not running), Shortcut (running), Shortcut (running), Shortcut (running), Shortcut (running), Shortcut (running). It’s a mess. It is simple, I guess. But it is not easy to use.

But the Windows 7 taskbar isn’t just a mess because of this one thing. No, the Windows 7 taskbar is a mess because the way it works is not discoverable (i.e. it is simple but not easy). You can do awkward and undiscoverable things like click and drag upward on a button for an active window: This displays the Jump List, a key new feature of Windows 7. What the heck is that? Who would ever do that, other than by mistake? Is that really how we expose new functionality in Windows 7? Yes. Yes, it is. (You can also display a button Jump List by right-clicking, another unnatural action for taskbar buttons, though that one is arguably more easily learned because we do do that elsewhere in Windows.)

Another weirdness. When an application shortcut is “pinned” to the taskbar, it disappears from the Start Menu Most Recently Used (MRU) list. (That’s the list of shortcuts on the left side of the Vista and 7 Start Menu.) So if you already have, say, Firefox running, and you want to open a new Firefox window, doing so from the shell is now very difficult. Too difficult, I’d argue: Simple, but not easy. In Windows Vista, I can simply open the Start Menu and click Firefox, which is the very first icon in the menu. (Or, better still, I can tap WINKEY + DOWN ARROW + ENTER, something I’m very used to doing because I am familiar with Windows.) In Windows 7, Firefox doesn’t appear in the Start Menu because I’ve pinned it to the taskbar. So … how do I open a new Firefox window?

Well, I could use Firefox of course. But how do I do it from the shell? Here’s how: I have to somehow make the existing Firefox button’s Jump List appear and then choose “Mozilla Firefox” from the list. This is bad form for many, many reasons:

1. It’s not discoverable. Where did the Firefox shortcut I’m used to go? There is new functionality—pin to taskbar—but it kills old functionality. In Windows Vista, adding a shortcut to Quick Launch didn’t remove it from the Start Menu.

2. It can and will change. Right now, Mozilla isn’t modifying the Firefox Jump List, so this app gets the default list. But Mozilla will change it in the future. And then the way to open a new window will be different for every application. So much for muscle memory. And I can prove it: In Firefox today, the “Mozilla Firefox” choice is the bottom one on the list. But in IE 8, where Microsoft has in fact modified the jump list, the “Internet Explorer” link, which opens a new window is—guess where … go ahead, guess—that’s right, it’s the top item in the list. Way to go, Microsoft. There’s nothing like inconsistency.

3. When you mouse-over the Firefox button in the taskbar, a preview of existing Firefox windows appears, and you can close individual windows by clicking a little red X next to each. So it’s actually easier to close an existing window now than open a new one because the chance of a user mousing over something is more likely than right-clicking or, heaven forbid, clicking and dragging up.

Now, I could in fact launch Firefox from the Start Menu. But doing so is also convoluted because it’s not in the MRU. So I would have to open All Programs and manually navigate the folder where the icon is located. Simple? I guess. Easy? No.

I will try to flesh this concept out. But here’s my biggest fear: Folks, Windows 7 is in the can. It’s done. There are no major changes coming and Microsoft will ship this much more quickly than many realize. And that’s another way in which Windows 7 is like Mac OS X: This new functionality was implemented without any formal testing at all. Are we really to believe that the company will alter this and other functionality dramatically after the one and only public beta is released in early 2009? I just don’t see it happening.

What Microsoft has done in Windows 7 is mostly good, mostly very, very good. But Microsoft, I feel, is confusing simple with easy in this release. They’re trying to make Windows more like the Mac. And while that may or many not be an improvement over the current convoluted UI model, it’s not the same as making Windows easy.

It’s not the same at all.

Discuss this Article 121

Master3
on Nov 24, 2008
@Ocean Will you please STOP trying to divert this thread! If you have nothing of substance to add to this subject, then stop posting so we don't have to wade through your nonsense to get to relevant postings.
Ocean
on Nov 24, 2008
Master, You're off-topic. Please correct this; thanks!
SandmanX82
on Nov 24, 2008
I swear, if some of you people (ie. Ocean) are older than a teenager, you must lead very, very sad lives. Grow up already.
DRWAM
on Nov 24, 2008
I bought Office 2004 with a fre upgrade to 2008 because it was $29 after rebate. I got the media edtion at that! MS sent the wrong edition of 2008. A 10 minute or less call got me both editions and a refund of the $10shipping charge from a very nice Canadian rep. I live in Jersey.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 24, 2008
So, Doc, are you using your $29 copy of Office 2008 on your $400 Vista laptop?
bettieblu
on Nov 24, 2008
"So, Doc, are you using your $29 copy of Office 2008 on your $400 Vista laptop?" I have run Leopard in a VMware Workstation 6.5, on Vista so its possible to run Office 2008 on your $400 Acer notebook, and in a Unity Mode no less. Why you would want to do it I dont know, as Office 2008 is just a crippled slower version of 2007.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 24, 2008
(Really just wanted to give Doc a chance to mention the $400 Vista laptop) We now return to "Simple" vs "Easy" vs "Simplistic"
scarper
on Nov 24, 2008
I don't comment here much but it's really frustrating to see a child like Ocean in an otherwise interesting and informative conversation. You're the worst kind of Internet infant. You don't even argue very well which is why I hope you're not an adult because you'd fail at even my high school debate team. There's nothing noble about writing profanity on a wall and then giggling anonymously while you watch people react to it. I'm sorry you're so lonely. Sad and dumb and lonely. BTW I own a Mac and run Windows on it about as much as I run OSX. So I'm pretty bipartisan which is why I enjoy hearing different, rational, points of view. So stop screaming your childishness at the top of your lungs for the attention for a change. You really do come off as foolish.
shark47
on Nov 24, 2008
Microsoft should hire Long Zheng. He'll help them a lot. http://www.windows7taskforce.com/
lotsamystuff
on Nov 24, 2008
"Using terms like: Winfanboy, Winjihadist ." Don't forget "WinJihadist", a phrase I started using after Paul's attempt to coin "iCabal". I bet I've used the former a lot less than he's used the latter. I refuse to apologize for that.
Ocean
on Nov 24, 2008
It is a bit hypocritical to enjoy the term iCabal and be offended at the others.
lotsamystuff
on Nov 24, 2008
@bettiblu: "The best example I like to use when it comes to "simple" Leopard vs Vista is Time Machine for Joe User. Time Machine is the most user friendly, stupid proof backup application I have seen. Compare it to Volume Shadow copy and its night and day for Joe User." Completely agreed. Time Machine has saved my bacon more than once by letting me recover a file from a specific previous day. I've become so accustomed to it, I sometimes don't even bother to save alternate versions of short-term projects because they're already "there" in the archive. Far from being gimmicky (and believe me, I was more than a little skeptical at first), its interface is excellent, and a great example of powerful "simplicity". " iPhoto is a just right me 99% of the time and I think it has lots of appeal. However if I started to get serious about photo's it would be a toy compared to other stuff." I thought iPhoto was just about perfect until I started using Aperture, which has all but replaced Photoshop for 90% of what I do. iPhoto is great, but Aperture blows it out of the water; it's just about the best money I've ever spent on any software package ever..
SandmanX82
on Nov 24, 2008
Well being iCabal has nothing to do with this thread in any way whatsoever, why bring it up?
shark47
on Nov 24, 2008
I guess right clicking on a file and selecting "Restore previous versions" gives some people nightmares. It's easy to use but just like many other "hidden" features, it hasn't been advertised well. For me, "simplicity" is not another word for "gimmicky".
Waethorn
on Nov 24, 2008
"They overwhelm the user with functionality in a bid to make sure it works for everyone." OH NOES! Perish the thought of something actually being functional. Steve Job's dream computer would have a single button and does not compute. Speaking of which: http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/22/macbook-and-macbookpro-suffer-perform... OMGHSROFLMFAO! Seriously, whoever said Apple spends enough on R&D a few articles ago should actually read that. I mean, gawdammit, they should go back to the drawing board or else get out of the hardware business altogether. You can't run a MacBook off the AC power cable designed for it??? LOL! What, do they have the marketing guys doing hardware design? "Calling Dr. Lexus. We need you to design our next notebook." http://youtube.com/watch?v=js0sy-Mq58U
lotsamystuff
on Nov 24, 2008
"Well being iCabal has nothing to do with this thread in any way whatsoever, why bring it up?" I was responding to the original poster's comment that disparaging terms for PC users bring down the overall tenor and tone of the conversation, while pointing out that s/he conveniently ignored Paul's invented "iCabal" word.
bettieblu
on Nov 24, 2008
@Waethorn, honestly who takes out their battery for this purpose? I have never run a notebook like that. Not that I am discounting the problem but I dont know anyone that does that. What's the impact less than 1% or 1%? I never take my battery out of the notebook unless its so hung the power button wont shut it down, or I am adding RAM or something.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 24, 2008
Shark "I guess right clicking on a file and selecting "Restore previous versions" gives some people nightmares." You're missing the key feature that makes Time Machine such a "special" backup utility, the whirling starscape background! Why, it's the epitome of that "clean, UI design" that Apple fans go on and on about.
bettieblu
on Nov 24, 2008
Mike or Shark you ever use Time Machine? It works with more than just a file. You can go back a day, week, month or more and restore a sing email in the Mail App or a contact in Address book. Gimmicky for an IT person sure. Super easy, super nice feature for Joe user.
Ocean
on Nov 24, 2008
>You're missing the key feature that makes Time Machine such a "special" backup utility, the whirling starscape background! Why, it's the epitome of that "clean, UI design" that Apple fans go on and on about.< You're a childish troll.
shark47
on Nov 24, 2008
"It works with more than just a file. You can go back a day, week, month or more and restore a sing email in the Mail App or a contact in Address book. Gimmicky for an IT person sure. Super easy, super nice feature for Joe user." Except for the mail app thing, Shadow copy works with everything that you've mentioned. Again, right click and select Restore Previous Version and you're given a list of all previous versions of the file. Yes, it doesn't have the nice UI, but I don't think business users care about having a fancy UI. If implemented properly by the IT folks, it's a great feature.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 24, 2008
Bettieblu And the starscape adds what functionality?
Waethorn
on Nov 24, 2008
"honestly who takes out their battery for this purpose?" ....and there we have it. The first sentence is an apology on Apple's behalf. I was waiting for that. "Not that I am discounting the problem but I dont know anyone that does that. What's the impact less than 1% or 1%?" MANY people do. Likewise, when your battery lifecycle depletes, you'll also see a depletion in performance levels as your battery recharges, as that is a requirement according to what the response dictates. Do you honestly dispute the fact that lithium-ion batteries have a lifecycle of 2-3 years? How many people do you know that don't replace expensive batteries on notebook systems because of the cost? I know many. "I never take my battery out of the notebook unless its so hung the power button wont shut it down" Wow. They DO have to go back and look at those R&D numbers then. That has honestly NEVER happened to a laptop I've owned, nor has anyone I've sold one to ever said that it locked up so badly. Every PC shuts down a computer while holding the power button for 4 seconds. If it didn't, there'd be something wrong with the power relay through the motherboard. That setting is controlled by this old thing called the BIOS. Maybe you've heard of it?
Waethorn
on Nov 24, 2008
"You're a childish troll." "Pot. Kettle. Black." Exactly.
Waethorn
on Nov 24, 2008
O/T: Does anybody else find it funny that Apple doesn't mention "The 'L' Word" in any recent ads?
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 24, 2008
""honestly who takes out their battery for this purpose?" ....and there we have it. The first sentence is an apology on Apple's behalf." A great example of my big problem both with Apple and their fans. If Apple has a design flaw (and shipping a power supply that can't power the computer certainly is one) their response is "people shouldn't do what we didn't anticipate" and the user's response is "sorry that I did something wrong". The user isn't wrong, Apple is. The user shouldn't apologize, Apple should. The user should be, at a minimum, considering it a bug rather than something they did wrong.
bettieblu
on Nov 24, 2008
You see Mike this is where you bias comes in. You cant admit this is exactly what Paul was talking about when Apple makes it easy or whatever. You have zero objectivity. To answer you question, the starscape adds nothing just like the running line above the words "Microsoft Corporation" as you wait for Vista to boot adds nothing. Shark, I have used Shadow copy since it came out for Server 2003. Its a great tool in a corporate world because it saves administrators lots of time doing piddly restores for users on file servers. Its a great tool in Vista as well for a consumer on their home PC as well. Time Machine works with most apps from Apple, like iTune or iPhoto as well the other I listed. Not only that but you launch it while in the app thats missing data. So if you in you sent items looking for an email you know you sent, fire up Time Machine and you still in your sent items/mail app. Go back in time and find the email, click the restore button...done. How would you do that in Windows? Restore a .pst/mail file from when you think the email was still there? Mount the .PST/mail file and hope you were right?? The point is gimmicky or not Joe User likes that kind of stuff because its easy.
Ocean
on Nov 24, 2008
>>O/T<< Troll.
shark47
on Nov 24, 2008
"Bettieblu And the starscape adds what functionality?" Especially from a usability standpoint, because that's the context in which the original comment was made. Why is it difficult for a user to right click and select "Restore previous versions"? The additional functionality is more or less irrelevant at this point.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 24, 2008
Waethorn Correct me if I'm wrong but if the Mac Book power supply doesn't have the amperage to run the laptop at full power without a battery doesn't that also mean it can't run the laptop at full power when charging the battery? If full processing power draws X amps, then full processing power plus charging current has got to be X+Y amps. I'd be very curious to see benchmarks on a fully charged unit vs one with no battery vs one with a nearly empty battery that's charging.
Ocean
on Nov 24, 2008
>>the starscape adds nothing just like the running line above the words "Microsoft Corporation" as you wait for Vista to boot adds nothing.<< IOW he was trolling.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 24, 2008
bettieblu As shark pointed out, the question was about usability and easy versus simple.
bettieblu
on Nov 24, 2008
My T-61 would lock up in its docking station running XP and would not shut down even when holding the button down for 10 seconds. I even undocked it after 30 seconds same thing. It was fixed by a BIOS update according to our desktop folks from Lenovo, many users at my company with the same model, bought around the same time had this problem. The ACPI was broken with the BIOS version I had. ACPI was probably what you meant by "That setting is controlled". "MANY people do" Since you have no proof its total BS and of course I knew you would say that. To bad we cant start a poll of how many peopole do that. What a pain in the @$$ to deal with. Yes all batteries where out over time from re-charging thanks for the obvious there buddy. So do you remove your battery from your cell phone when near an outlet and plug in your phone so you can make calls??? Many people do it you know....in Canada that is.
lotsamystuff
on Nov 24, 2008
"And the starscape adds what functionality?" A CLI fanatic would argue that a GUI adds no functionality, only unnecessary overhead, yet I don't hear anyone argue that computing should go back to the days of DOS and green screens. The "starscape" is eye candy, to be sure, but it ain't harming a thing, and the "backwards in time" analogy, while somewhat gimmicky, is at the very least fun to watch. So sue me if I kind of like it.
WebGuy3000
on Nov 24, 2008
shark47 said: Why is it difficult for a user to right click and select "Restore previous versions"? The additional functionality is more or less irrelevant at this point. Shark, here's the thing - what if the file (or email, or contact, etc.) was deleted weeks or months ago? What do you click on to select "Restore previous versions"? Also, the nice thing about Time machine is that it's integrated with the index-based spotlight search. So if I have no idea what the document was called, but know that it had the phrase "grandma's attic" in there somewhere, I search "grandma's attic" in spotlight. If it doesn't find that string in any file on any local drive, it starts chugging through the time machine backups and returns all the backed up items that contain it. It's very handy, and to return to the original topic of Paul's post, it passes what call the Uncle Bud test.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 24, 2008
bettieblu "Time Machine works with most apps from Apple, like iTune or iPhoto ..." So what you're saying is that although it's a system tool, it's UI is not consistant between apps with some supporting it and most not. So a user can't assume it will be there unless they learn which apps support it and which don't. That's not a consistant UI which is what both Apple's a Microsoft's UI guidelines call for and it adds complexity for the user with no benefit of simplicity.
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 24, 2008
lotsa, I have no problem with you liking eye candy. But by the maxim of "the UI should get out of the way", and the discussion of "easy vs simple", the eye candy is a negative since it is distracting, doesn't add any functionality for the user and doesn't simplify the experience.
robertsjoe
on Nov 24, 2008
"The problem with Windows 7 is that Microsoft is copying the Mac, again." NO! Really?! As they did with Vista, XP... all the way back to Windows 3.1. That's one of the many reasons as to why Microsoft doesn't garner the kind of interest, press and devotion as Apple.
lotsamystuff
on Nov 24, 2008
"the eye candy is a negative since it is distracting, doesn't add any functionality for the user and doesn't simplify the experience." Have you used Time Machine? The UI that lets me go to a specific date on the right hand side, select a file or folder in the "finder" window and click "restore" is a model of usability. Sorry if we disagree.
RunTimeError
on Nov 24, 2008
"the eye candy is a negative since it is distracting, doesn't add any functionality for the user and doesn't simplify the experience." Then I guess MS should drop the transparency effects from Vista and Win 7. They should also drop Flip 3D as it is a classic example of design over usability. I mean all that GPU hogging eye candy doesn't add any functionality, now does it? Fact of the matter Mr. Galos: the average schmo loves their eye candy. Both Apple *and* Microsoft know this.
ibarskiy
on Nov 24, 2008
Ocean "People buy Office from force of habit and inertia" What a ridiculous statement to make! And you know this how?
Ocean
on Nov 24, 2008
>>And you know this how?<< Paul Thurrott and Mike Galos told me.
bettieblu
on Nov 24, 2008
Mike actually I dont know what applications are Time Machine compatible and which are not. Everything I have tried it with has worked so far. Perhaps all Apple applications do where its applicable and third party apps can if they want to code it for them. I would imagine if your applications hides the file locations like mail, iCal, iPhoto or whatever then Time Machine support in the application would be good. If you application opens a find dialog box when you open files say Word, Pages or Photoshop then you would invoke your restore from with in Finder when using Time Machine.
bettieblu
on Nov 24, 2008
RunTimeError its OK for the eye candy in Vista when using a 3D gaming video card. Its XP where its bad since it uses your CPU to render any eye candy or so I have been told:)
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 24, 2008
"Fact of the matter Mr. Galos: the average schmo loves their eye candy. Both Apple *and* Microsoft know this." Absolutely. But we were talking about easy versus simple not whether they're popular or liked. And, in some cases eye candy actually does help by clarifying the UI or drawing attention to a key UI piece. As you can tell, I'm not opposed to eye candy in general, but in this discussion we're discussing very specific context.
RunTimeError
on Nov 24, 2008
bettieblu: Oh, I know. That's why I said "GPU hogging" and not CPU hogging :)
shark47
on Nov 24, 2008
WebGuy and bettie, Fair enough. Time Machine probably has more functionality. To me it looks like they both serve different purposes. Previous versions is used, as the name suggests, to recover previous versions of a file or a folder. From a usability standpoint, I would still argue that right clicking and selecting the version from a list is as easy as it gets. The original comment that Time Machine and Volume Shadow copy were night and day, again, was made in the context of ease of use. I've seen reasons based on functionality, not on usability why Time Machine is better.
techfan
on Nov 24, 2008
@tayme: True. The way Microsoft handles windows management is what I'm accustomed to, but at the same time, I think the MS way is best. It makes more sense.
Waethorn
on Nov 24, 2008
@mike: That assumption would be correct. The only time the MacBook runs at full power is when the AC power cable is in AND the battery is charged. What's stupid is that they can't make an AC power cable powerful enough to power the notebook by itself. The battery is sitting there unused at full power, only receiving a trickle charge from the AC to keep it topped up, while the AC also provides supplemental power. The majority of the power is coming from the battery. The likely reason is to kill the battery early so you have to buy another one as a replacement product from Apple. That's the only plausible reason. I'm sure the next sealed battery in the MacBook Air will likely be the same. What did it cost to replace the battery again? In EVERY PC, the AC power cable charges the battery, and the battery then shuts off. The battery doesn't discharge at all, because it's shut off and not used by the computer. The AC power cable is utilized by the computer when the battery is charged. Likewise, you can take a battery out of a PC notebook and not suffer any performance issues at all. I also don't suffer any performance issues when charging, nor do I when on batteries. I can easily change my power profile just by left-clicking on the battery icon in the systray. Apple is just bilking customers, and for no good reason. Not only are you killing your battery early, but you're also inflating that hydro bill.
shark47
on Nov 24, 2008
Wae, you're implying that Barack Obama is a hypocrite. :)

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