HomeGroup, Homegroup, homegroup ... explained

I've heard from Steven Sinofsky and Gloria Boyer about the different spellings of HomeGroup in Windows 7. It's all part of the plan, it seems. :) Here's what I was told:

The (trademarked*) feature name is HomeGroup.

The generic 'thing" created by the feature is a homegroup.

If the word "homegroup" happens to occur in a place where it should be initial-capped, such as a title, it is Homegroup.

     (* To preserve a trademark you have to use it consistently)

Interesting. Given this, we can look at my previous example in a new light. I guess.

So, that's good. I'm not surprised to find out that Microsoft is working very hard on the consistency stuff. There's still a lot of work to do there, of course, much of it necessitated by a decision to remove capitalization all over the OS, compared to Vista, where everything was capitalized. (For example: Menu item and toolbar button names in Vista appeared as "Large Icons" and "Auto Arrange Icons" whereas in 7 they are, respectively, "Large icons" and "Auto arrange icons.") The big OS inconsistencies--like the taskbar/notification area stuff--are, of course, by design, and won't be changing. But this is an ongoing process.

Again, let's not misconstrue the criticisms here. Windows 7 is so good we can be picky. That's a good sign.

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chuckb84
on May 11, 2009
Don't worry, by the time Windows 7 is released this will all be clarified. HomeGroup is for corporate upgrade and new enterprise customers. (This also called HomeGroup Ultimate Premium 2009 for Enterprise) Homegroup is for the Windows 7 Home basic (note the lower case "b"). This is the version that most home customers will use. For less than $299, an upgrade to the full HomeGroup version will be available. homegroup is for the Windows 7 Starter Edition and will only be used in certain 3rd world countries (note the lower case "w" and "c"). This spelling will not be seen by the majority of WIndows 7 users, unless you use a netbook or live in a tertiary market where the reduced letter case functionality is being offered in the low cost version of Windows 7. This is of little consequence in those markets, since the primary language is Mandarin. Why are there multiple spellings and case usage? Choice. Microsoft is dedicated to providing only the functionality needed by different groups of users. You pay for only the upper/lower case functionality that you need. Upgrades between case versions are available* for the price difference between versions. See the 3 page table at microsoft.com/windows7/version_table/options/features/upgrades/homegroup/case_choice for a full explanation of the features, differences, prices and upgrades to different versions. *Upgrade is contingent on proof of purchase of a lower functionality version within the pas 6 months, submission of the 2048 character product key. After the upgrade in purchased, users will need to enter their current product key and the new one. The new 2048 character key must be entered twice for verification. New character key can be obtained from the Mumbai support center, where it is dictated over the phone in heavily accented english.
pthurrott
on May 11, 2009
LOL. Finally, someone "gets" Microsoft. :)
shark47
on May 11, 2009
"New character key can be obtained from the Mumbai support center, where it is dictated over the phone in heavily accented english." You, sir, are an idiot. What do you mean by "heavily accented"? Do Americans own the English language? Please stop mocking something that you don't understand. Idiot!
shark47
on May 11, 2009
"homegroup is for the Windows 7 Starter Edition and will only be used in certain 3rd world countries (note the lower case "w" and "c")." 3rd world? Nice. On topic, it's a good thing that Microsoft is actually listening to feedback.
bettieblu
on May 11, 2009
@chuckb84 that was classic and spot on in my experience. You should get certified. https://partner.microsoft.com/40019036
DavidR91
on May 11, 2009
"Windows 7 is so good we can be picky. That's a good sign." I'm not so sure any more. The recent performance benchmarks showing no actual change from Vista -> Win7 makes me think I'll pass on 7 - Vista ran like a dog on some pretty respectable machines, so if there's no improvement, it's just shiny UI changes built on sand
stimshady
on May 11, 2009
@DavidR91 have you actually tried 7 or are you a sheep? i suggest you give it a go before writing it off, unless of course you are a sheep, in which case, i guess it'll depend on what you friends and colleagues tell you to do.
Waethorn
on May 11, 2009
"homegroup is for the Windows 7 Starter Edition and will only be used in certain 3rd world countries (note the lower case "w" and "c")" Homegroup is being used in america?
treeorc
on May 11, 2009
Despite a few minor details Windows 7 is looking surprisingly good. It is running like a top on an old Dell PC, my Acer Aspire One netbook, and within Virtual Box on my HP HDX 64bit Laptop. Very impressive.
treeorc
on May 11, 2009
@ DavidR91 6 gigs of RAM on a laptop with Vista and 1 gig on an old PC running 7 and the performance is quite close. Thus, I'd venture that 7 is worth looking at. Whether I personally migrate to 7 as an end product will simply depend on the price...I hope Ballmer is listening...
treeorc
on May 11, 2009
@ Shark47 "Do Americans own the English language?" Maybe not but at least we can understand each other...whew...
treeorc
on May 11, 2009
@pthurrott "LOL. Finally, someone "gets" Microsoft. :)" You sure about that?
dmccall
on May 11, 2009
I thought about your post last night when I was moving a file out of a .zip file. Vista asked me "Do you want to move or copy this file?" The two options are "yes" and "no". hahaha!!
darkmax
on May 11, 2009
Oh Great! Now the brains at Redmond are making excuse for their poor spelling ability!
shark47
on May 11, 2009
"Maybe not but at least we can understand each other...whew..." Oh, yes. The "thick accent" that foreigners have makes it difficult to understand them, doesn't it? In many cases, I think it has to do more with the fact that you don't want to understand what they're saying. A lot of you guys have a holier than thou attitude -- the notion that anything American is better than what the rest of the world has to offer -- and that's wrong.
chuckb84
on May 11, 2009
@shark "You, sir, are an idiot. What do you mean by "heavily accented"? Do Americans own the English language? Please stop mocking something that you don't understand. Idiot!" Hey guy, it's a joke. If I said "A variant of English pronunciation that is difficult for most Americans to understand" I suppose that would be more accurate and more PC. Of course, the support center could be in Boston or Charleston and you might well get "heavily accented English". You're right, heavily accented is in the ear of the beholder. As for the 3rd world part, Microsoft has more or less advertised Windows "starter edition" that way, so feel free to beat them up. I'm just parodying the parody.
treeorc
on May 11, 2009
@ shark47 " A lot of you guys have a holier than thou attitude ..." Huh? Are you daft? On some sort of quasi-infinite-utopian mission...whew...
bettieblu
on May 11, 2009
@teeorc Shark has this whole socialist thing about him. To converse with him you have to totally PC.
shark47
on May 11, 2009
chuck, OK, I apologize. I should have asked before calling you names. I hate it when people assume stuff. I've been asked several times (even by my previous manager) how my English was so good even though I was from India. "Huh? Are you daft?" No, I'm not. Americans do have a holier than thou attitude, which causes them to meddle in the affairs of other countries, trying to make them more like the west. (After all, the American way is the right way.)
Waethorn
on May 11, 2009
"After all, the American way is the right way" I think that should be punctuated thusly: "After all, the american way is the Right way" ;)
chuckb84
on May 11, 2009
@shark, Seriously, I was not making fun of anyone but Microsoft. All in the spirit of this, still the funniest corporate parody video I have ever seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXAcwriid0 The fact that this was done internally at Microsoft is the singly most hopeful thing I've seen from them, well, ever.
Angel Of Death
on May 11, 2009
Nobody's probably reading this thread by now, so I guess I'm safe in saying this. English is not my native language. Still have big trouble understanding heavily accented English. Gets a lot of it from working with our (esteemed, highly educated, service-minded and efficient) outsourcing partners in Chenai (that's in India for you guys in the US, and India is a country - a big country - and not a state.) I find it very difficult to understand some of these guys. So in situations where I'm dependent on understanding them (or they understanding me) it's kind of an issue, really. One way to let off steam is to joke about it, just as I'm sure that our partners make fun of obnoxious Swedes. For some reason, you can point out that someone is not doing the job they're supposed to master - even if they try their best - but not if they have trouble making themselves understood in a language they are supposed to master to performed said job - regardless of if they try their best or not. Seems strange to me, but on the other hand I just spent like 10 minutes replying to this thread for no apparent reason or gain. Could have spent that time in bed. So we're not a rational species.
niyokochan
on May 11, 2009
@stimshady@DavidR91 Look like he never did install and use Windows 7. The benchmarks show nothing useful. All the show is that Vista and 7 run programs like Office virtually the same. What the benchmark fails to show is things like the memory management, file transfer speeds, programs' load times, and boot/shutdown speeds. All of those have been noticeable and appreciatively improved :)
whiplash55
on May 11, 2009
@Shark A little hypersensitive today are we??? I think he was kidding, tech support calls are notoriously hard to understand whether they come from India or, God forbid Texas. Both which speak English incorrectly, I know I'm in California and everyone wants to be like us!
subzerohitman721
on May 11, 2009
@Chuckb84, Thanks for the good chuckle. Paul, Are you going to create a nitpicker's guide for Windows 7?
Dipsh t Admin
on May 12, 2009
If Paul creates a nitpickers guide, ala the tool of tools (outside of rj of course) Chris Pirillo did with Vista, then Paul will have jumped the shark.
shark47
on May 12, 2009
"A little hypersensitive today are we???" Probably got up on the wrong side of the bed. chuck, I apologize. I think I read too much into your comment. :)

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