iPhone OS 4.0

I blogged about this on my Windows Phone Secrets blog, but here's a heads-up about Apple's announcement today with regards to iPhone OS 4.0 for the iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad:

Apple today unveiled its plans for iPhone OS 4.0, the next major OS for its iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad products. Based on the announcement, they’re making some obvious but important updates to the product and, perhaps for the first time ever, they are clearly responding to their increasingly aggressive competitors, especially Google (Android) and Microsoft (Windows Phone). This shouldn’t be seen as a negative so much as it is a reflection on how mature the iPhone OS has become. (And that it’s competition has finally caught up and in some cases surpassed it.)

Apple being Apple, the product page introducing the new OS exclaims that there are “over 100 new features.” But funky math aside, a more obvious way to examine the big bucket changes is to look at the 7 “tent pole” features (their term) that they called out as being the big deals in this release.

They are ...

Check out the original post for the list, and some discussion.

Discuss this Article 74

Keleko
on Apr 8, 2010
iAds isn't anything more than Apple getting a slice of the ad revenue that apps are already using with AdMob. They're actually making it a better experience for the user than the existing ad solutions.
daveinla
on Apr 8, 2010
I can't believe that a way to bring more ads to one's phone is described as a feature !!!!
Dr. Daniel Jackson
on Apr 8, 2010
"iPhone OS 4 will work with iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, and the second- and third-generation iPod touch this summer, and with iPad in the fall. Not all features are compatible with all devices. For example, multitasking is available only with iPhone 3GS and the third-generation iPod touch (32GB and 64GB models from late 2009)." At least some older hardware will get a taste of the new OS, I imagined Apple would only be selling it new hardware, much like the WinMob scene where you have to buy a new phone for no reason, even though your existing device will work fine with an update.
Dr. Daniel Jackson
on Apr 8, 2010
That is one great thing about Android being open source, I replaced Windows Mobile 6.5 on my A&tt Tilt with Android 2.1 and couldn't be happier. http://source.android.com/
tayme
on Apr 8, 2010
It is a very incremental update. The semi-multitasking feature is no where near as elegant as WebOS; but of course, WebOS has terrible battery life. Its hard to believe that Apple did not release this to iPad before iPad Nano with the push that device is getting right now...but better to solve it's G1 issues first, I guess. Semi, kinda, almost related - I hope that the rumors of Lenovo buying Palm come true....they have done will with the ThinkPad brand and may be able to breathe some life into a dying company that started this whole device category. --tayme
Waethorn
on Apr 8, 2010
@tayme: Lenovo's got some really nice consumer platform stuff right now. There's a good audience of consumers that want a bit more reliability than your average flashy system though, and the newer models in the ThinkPad line certainly fit well.
dallasmay
on Apr 8, 2010
Whoo... This will make my phone upgrade choice a lot harder. Evo 4g with tethering for 8 devices or the iPhone 4 with... ads. uh... Nevermind.
Waethorn
on Apr 8, 2010
BTW: Nothing that Apple said today impresses me one iota.
ModernDislocation
on Apr 8, 2010
Waethorn said "BTW: Nothing that Apple said today impresses me one iota." For some reason I don't really get the impression that you not being impressed amounts to much when it comes to the iPhone's success.
tayme
on Apr 8, 2010
@Waethorn - Which of the new Lenovos did you order? Are you still liking it? I have a friend looking for a new W7 laptop and I was thinking about sending him that direction. --tayme
Dr. Daniel Jackson
on Apr 8, 2010
Anyone tried that U1 hybrid yet? is it even out?
roteague
on Apr 8, 2010
@Dr. Daniel Jackson said: "...WinMob scene where you have to buy a new phone for no reason, even though your existing device will work fine with an update." As a Windows Mobile developer that was one of the biggest gripes I had about the platform. However, I don't blame Apple for only making the updates available on the new devices; to do otherwise would lead to too many compromises - AFAIK (I don't develop for iPhone, so that is a guess on my part).
rr0de74@live.com
on Apr 8, 2010
@waethorn at least are consistent! Very solid update, nothing to surprising. This will help them continue their lead. Not all features on the 3G a given since the hardware probably cant handle it. Of course this is only half of the release, the other half will come in the form of new hardware. I suspect, iPad CPU, more pixels on the screen, wireless N, 16gig 3GS becomes the new 8gig 3G, and probably a 64gig model. Windows Phone 7 has time to make some catch up changes before they launch in Sept?
Dr. Daniel Jackson
on Apr 8, 2010
iPhone OS 4 will work with iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS and the second- and third-generation iPod touch I think that is a great thing, props the fruit for the unusual support.
Dr. Daniel Jackson
on Apr 8, 2010
"Not all features on the 3G a given since the hardware probably cant handle it." Maybe not, but at least it's something.
DRWAM
on Apr 8, 2010
When iPhone OS 4.0 arrives, many of the 3g phone will be two years old. The full discount is eligible after 18 months, so most 3G owners will be able to upgrade their iPhone at full discount if they choose. Many have upgraded, then sold their old phones for the same price as the new, with a net cost of zero. This is especially true for those phone that are jailbroken. So get a new 3GS, sell the old phone for the same price or close on Craig's list. I know several people that did this, as well as many that have posted about it at the iPhone Dev-team web site.
Waethorn
on Apr 8, 2010
"For some reason I don't really get the impression that you not being impressed amounts to much when it comes to the iPhone's success." It's a phone that does what other phones already eclipse in functionality, and yet it's a big money pit for consumers that want to increase the functionality to get it to the level of other devices, but they'll do so because Apple puts on a flashy show. So you would be correct. "Which of the new Lenovos did you order? Are you still liking it? I have a friend looking for a new W7 laptop and I was thinking about sending him that direction." I'm personally using an AMD ThinkPad Edge 13". The battery probably isn't as good as what you'd get from a more expensive Intel model, but the graphics is certainly superior, and the processor performance is going to be at least on par. Where it excels is in functionality though - a model with Win 7 Pro x64 and at least 3GB of RAM will easily handle virtual machine workloads for business apps. I've upgraded mine to 4GB and am rocking a Windows Server 2008 (R1, cuz R2 is 64-bit only) deployment server VM with a separate VM for testing the rollout of Win 7 OEM images. In fact, I'm doing that now as I type on the host Win 7 Pro. I only paid $649(CDN) for mine and got the baseline 2GB/250GB/Win7HomePrem Athlon Neo model with a 4-cell battery because I have RAM in my store, and my Action Pack includes Win7Pro licenses already. It gets about 2.5-3hrs which is what I'm used to from my old laptop, but there's a 6-cell battery option too. It's very light with the small battery though, and I'm just used to plugging it in because I want maximum performance most of the time. The AMD model is a leg burner if you have it on your lap though. Use one of those gel pads if familial propogation is one of your future interests. I've noticed that Lenovo is cutting back on the number of options on their website for customization. I haven't looked at the US page lately, but on the Canadian page, they don't show the Edge 13 versions with Turion Neo configurations at all, and they've taken the options down for building your own (it's only 3 Athlon Neo baseline configs with only options for warranty extensions and accessories - nothing else). If that's a problem, find an authorized reseller. Lenovo-authorized distributors still carry a bigger range of SKU's with all different possible combinations of the processor/RAM/HDD/OS customization options and resellers should be able to get something to fit what you're looking for. You *CAN* get 32-bit versions of the OS if that's your thing, but it's normally 64-bit on default configs. As I mentioned, I got Win7HomePrem x64 with it. I just used Anytime Upgrade and plopped in my Action Pack Win 7 Pro number as an upgrade key so that I didn't have to wipe anything (the Lenovo Toolbox software is actually good - not crap like what HP and Dell puts on their systems). I've been looking for a nice thin and light system that will handle VM's, a decent amount of RAM, and doesn't cost a lot, for a long time. Lenovo is finally able to deliver, and in no way is it with thanks to Intel. AMD Vision Pro is by far the most economical and value-rich platform for business laptops.
DRWAM
on Apr 8, 2010
FYI, when you unlock an iPhone in the USA to use with T-mobile, only EDGE will work, not 3G. In Europe, 3G works, but some countries require the carrier to unlock the iPhone after a certain period of time, when requested. The phones cost more. OT, the Lenovo [super] netbooks look really sweet, but they ain't cheap, or as cheap as the typical netbook from other companies. Still, they would be the ones that I would buy. The hardware is worth the price to me.
Waethorn
on Apr 8, 2010
"the Lenovo [super] netbooks look really sweet, but they ain't cheap, or as cheap as the typical netbook from other companies." They are when you compare them to other business-class ultraportables. They aren't the same as a consumer netbook. Comparing it against something like an Acer Aspire One or Dell Mini 10 isn't an accurate comparison. Acer makes a Timeline model that compares, but it's more expensive. Dell makes a "business-class netbook" called the Latitude 2100. It's an Atom with much lower performance than the x100e, crap graphics, and it even sports a much higher introductory price point: http://www1.ca.dell.com/ca/en/business/Laptops/laptop-latitude-2100/pd.a... That system just can't compete with the value proposition of the x100e. Oh, and the x100e is going to be available soon with the same Athlon Neo dual-core that the Edge 13 already has. Currently it's a single-core version (just FYI: Atom netbooks are all single-core, unless you get one the odd ones with a desktop dual-core version of the processor - the older 330 or the newer D510)
Dr. Daniel Jackson
on Apr 8, 2010
What's the fun of being a rabble rouser if you can't rabble? Almost everyone here makes decent posts it's just a few Apple trolls that do the rabbling
Waethorn
on Apr 8, 2010
"Do you enjoy the features coming in IE9? Thank Firefox (some may even argue Chrome.)" Sorry, but support for webslices, hardware accelerated rendering, and "accelerators" themselves are all innovations that Microsoft produced. I consider Firefox and Safari to be the furthest behind in software technologies and innovation. IE7 was the first browser to break free of the menu-driven UI. Chrome has one innovation: their sandbox model. Opera's UI actually one-ups IE's IMO, but it's proven to be a buggy mess in my own experiences. IE is one of the most stable browsers that I've used. Stable, not just from a reliability standpoint, but also because it's a known quantity. Major versions remain on the market for a while, and it's a platform that a web developer can target without having to constantly change their code because some minor update changes functionality, or supports some kind of new tag or function that may or may not be part of a proposed or real possible future web standard. Firefox does that with minor updates. So does Safari. So does Chrome. So does Opera, to a lesser extent. Take a good hard look at Chrome, Safari, and Firefox, and tell me that they aren't changing HTML support from one minor version to another. You can't, because they are. There is only 1 rendering engine version for the lifespan of IE7, one for IE8, one for IE9, etc. Hotfixes don't add extra functionality or change rendering behaviours.
BrandanL
on Apr 8, 2010
@Waethorn "[I]t's a big money pit for consumers that want to increase the functionality to get it to the level of other devices, but they'll do so because Apple puts on a flashy show." Actually, the iPhone isn't very "Flash"y at all ;-) Everybody has been clamoring for multitasking since day one, so that is easily the most significant feature of this upgrade. The rest are marginal but welcome changes, like the Mail enhancements and the "enterprise features" (how vague!), that fill in various other gaps and further polish the iPhone user experience. (iAds is thoroughly uninteresting to consumers, but I guess it'll bring more developers to the platform, and that's good. Or something.) So you're right: iPhone OS 4.0 won't really blow any minds. But the iPhone started out light years ahead of its competition. Apple can still afford to release incremental updates like this because the iPhone brand is exceptionally strong, the UX is still nearly flawless (even if it is getting dated), and they're gradually ticking items off consumers' feature lists. Android, WebOS, and Windows Phone are the ones that really need to knock our socks off to get our attention.
Waethorn
on Apr 8, 2010
"the iPhone started out light years ahead of its competition" Ahem....the iPhone was a flashy dud when it came out. It didn't widely catch on until Apple opened it up to third party apps. Worldwide, it still isn't the most favoured smartphone OS by a long shot, and you can only really count it as being a favoured platform in its home market - the US (the same goes for Mac's BTW). "Android, WebOS, and Windows Phone are the ones that really need to knock our socks off to get our attention." WebOS at least makes an attempt to differ somewhat from the iPhone and Android (which are both nearly identical in concept and design). Windows Phone takes the platform to a completely whole different level though. Their concept rests behind the idea that a productive UI should be simple, but just can't exist on a single, small screen. So they step back, design an integrated, mostly "application-less" (and window-less) UI from the ground up, and turn the phone into the "window" that shows you a small cross-section of the UI at a time. That's a much more innovative concept than just building on a computer-based metaphor of having independent applications that load. Microsoft has tried at different times to get rid of UI concepts that dwell on applications, instead looking at a solution to what the user wants to do. And they've gotten very good at it over the years. Apple, meanwhile, has kept on the icon-driven application metaphor time-and-time-again. If somebody thinks that's somehow innovative, then they need to re-read the dictionary. We could debate this forever. In fact, Paul makes some pretty silly arguments about legacy versions of Windows Mobile, one of which I find particularly funny: "A phone shouldn't have a Start Menu" Oh yes, because having a customizable, quick-access list of your favourite applications is just completely outmoded isn't it? Meanwhile, Apple has gone to great strides to get users to quick lists of their apps (Home screen reordering, and the newly added program groups), but they know that any attempt to limit the number of apps that users can mark as favourites will just cut into their bottom line because it means they will probably stop paying for crap from the App Store and settle on their choices.
Logjamming
on Apr 8, 2010
Great update and the beta works remarkably well. A useful way for application switching without draining the battery: this is a well thought out way to move forward. Good job, Apple! Now bring on the new iPhone hardware as I am about to renew my cell phone plan.
Logjamming
on Apr 8, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9zDv8BivYw Not me, but it just shows that multitasking is quite smooth in the new beta.
subzerohitman721
on Apr 8, 2010
So in short Apple's iPhone OS 4 will: 1. Contaminate their gorgeous apps & phone with ads. 2. Tell programmers exactly which selection of programming languages they can use. 3. Deny workable features on older models (AKA: Planned obsolescence.) 4. give pseudo-multitasking features instead of the real thing. Wow. Thank you Apple for making me feel more secure about my Android device purchase. I hate to say it, but Apple really took their platform backwards in the wrong direction. NOBODY likes ads. I think trying to further monetize the platform will definite turn a lot of people off. Having no ads was actually one of the things about the iPod Touch/iPhone that was actually a plus in their favor. Limiting the multi-tasking to the 3GS is a huge mistake, with all of the already multi-tasking Android devices on the market. With the HTC Evo, Incredible, Samsung Galaxy S, & others are going to be on the market just in time to beat the any new iPhones announced at WWDC. I really think Apple didn't do enough to stop Android from pushing right pass them this year. Things still not available on the iPhone OS 4? Mass storage mode Tethering with AT&T Wi-Fi syncing Printer support for the iPad Multiple notification bar Honestly, the iPad doesn't support printing natively? Seriously? Computers from Xerox PARC in the 1970's had this feature. You're telling me that Apple isn't supporting a 30 year old standard peripheral feature? One of the most fundamental features of modern computing? Going back even further, UNIVAC had the first high speed printer in 1953! I'm sorry but that just seems completely asinine that one of the most basic & essential tools of computing isn't supported. It just seems to me like Apple keeps taking steps in the wrong direction. And I though Microsoft was evil at times. I now have a greater appreciation for both Google & Microsoft today. Paul, I think you have a new article to write. Apple: Just like IBM & Microsoft.
smiddlehurst
on Apr 8, 2010
Good update from Apple, I personally think they're going about Multi-tasking the right way for the vast majority of users although it will, of course, be a method that gets flack from the geek community. For 90%+ of users it'll be a very good compromise between functionality and useability, not to mention the battery life savings. I'm even kinda looking forward to iAd, as odd as that sounds. I have no problems with ads in free software but the current methods really do suck and guarantee I won't look at 'em. If they introduce ads that are basically mini-apps offering exclusive content (the Toy Story 3 example was a good 'un) for products I'm interested in.... yeah, I'd be happy with that. The one thing I did want to bring up though is Windows Phone 7. Now, let me be clear here, I'd like to see this (long overdue) move from MS pay off and deliver a proper competitor to iPhone and Android. But I can't help but feel todays anouncment makes WP7 seem a bit... outdated. It still has that unique interface and some nice ideas but in terms of functionality it's waaaay back in the pack now and its one potential killer feature in Xbox Live integration is now matched, to a certain degree, by Apple. Granted Game Center won't have the built in userbase of Live but it WILL be running on 50 million device (or more, not sure how many of th 85 Million they've sold are original iPhones and iPod Touch units) and that's one hell of a starting point. Plus Apple is going to have a few months headstart in terms of marketing and that can make a LOT of difference to public perception. Yes the hardware for WP7 will be nice but is it really going to be that much different to Android handsets? The interface is striking but also a bit... weird and I can see that turning off a lot of people, especially with the 'window onto a larger scene' theme they're using. I really think MS need to step up development if they can and at least deliver some of the basic functionality that was in WM 6.5 at launch time and not at some mysterious future date with some form of multi-tasking being the obvious candidate. Confirming what's going to happen wth OS updates would be a good idea too, I can't be the only one who got frustrated with the complete lack of updates for most devices in the WM days surely?
Grannyville
on Apr 8, 2010
If Apple give me the option to remove the Mail, Maps, Stocks, Voice Memo, Weather and YouTube apps from my phone,I'll be happy with 4.0 update :) Not that fussed about multi-tasking. I only use my phone for listening to audio, SMS and phone calls.
robertsjoe
on Apr 8, 2010
Another paid post by Microsoft. Great work!
robertsjoe
on Apr 8, 2010
The clueless of the posts and other commenters here is amazing. Just like Microsoft is not innovative, can't see the future, neither can the people that write about their trashwares and those that follow them like sheep (the Microtards commenting here). The iPad is revolutionary. Microsoft never could do it with their tablets. They don't have the vision or minds to do something so amazing as the iPad. Yet you drone on negatively. Why? Because like those at Microsoft, here and Windows drones around the world, they have no clue or taste. Bunch of clueless tools.
Dipsh t Admin
on Apr 9, 2010
@SacredCow, I would also say the following: Like multitasking on 4.0? Thank WinMo, Android and WebOS. Like the "magical" iPad? Thank MS for blazing that path. And thank Motion Computing and Fujitsu while you are at it. @Sub, regarding the planned obsolescence bit. They gotta move along some time. I doubt anyone is still rocking a first gen iPhone, and if they are, they won't really care about 4.0. Hardware evolves, and the software evolves with it. Assuming anyone will still support and upgrade a 3 year old device in the rapidly changing mobile device market is just not practical. @RJ, OK, I'll bite. Name me at least one thing on the iPad that you consider "magical". Regarding iAd, even the Apple fanboys at BGR and Engadget were subdued about this announcement. Just what we need, more intrusive, excuse me, "interactive" ads embedded in our apps.
jeffsters
on Apr 9, 2010
Gosh, you guys are just hating life now aren't ya? Apple is, if nothing else, careful and metholdical. It updates and releases requested features over and over again in an elegant way that always makes me think "wow, yeah, that's how it should work!" You guys keep posting the same anti-Apple junk you've been posting and all the while Apple has sold MORE AND MORE. I love it! Every issue with the iPhone, pretty much, has been addressed, yet the hate continues. It's really gotta suck to be you guys!
tayme
on Apr 9, 2010
Did anybody notice a couple of things that Jobs did yesterday? I picked up on these after reading and watching the announcement last night. - When talking about porting iBooks to the phone, he seemed very lax, like he thinks it is a bad idea. Of course he is the one that said that people do not read, so maybe he is just eating crow over that comment and pouting a bit because he was wrong. - When asked about how he thinks AT&T's network would handle the extra data usage caused by "multi-tasking", he pretty much blew the reporter off by saying that it would not cause any extra data usage. When further asked about people streaming Pandora while doing other tasks, he still stuck to his comment about not much data use. Why is it then, that a warning comes up when running Pandora for the first time, stating that data usage is high and to ensure that you have an unlimited data plan. Do you think that he was hinting at a Verizon or Sprint move coming up or just being a clueless @$$? --tayme
fzanes
on Apr 9, 2010
@robertsjoe How is the iPad revolutionary? Name one thing you can do with it that you can't do with another existing device? Name one! The ipad is revolutionary...the iPad is magical...The ipad is revolutionary...the iPad is magical...keep telling yourself that so you feel good about the money you just spent. Must buy shiny new thing...must buy shiny new thing...it will complete me...it will complete me...Steve said so...must obey Steve...
BrandanL
on Apr 9, 2010
@Waethorn "Ahem....the iPhone was a flashy dud when it came out. It didn't widely catch on until Apple opened it up to third party apps." This article reinforces the point I was making, mostly in the list near the end: http://counternotions.com/2009/08/26/pre-iphone/ (Yeah, it mentions the App Store, but most of the points are about the original model.) "Worldwide, it still isn't the most favoured smartphone OS by a long shot, and you can only really count it as being a favoured platform in its home market - the US (the same goes for Mac's BTW)." Of course it's not the most popular smartphone OS in the world. It only runs on three devices! WP7 does introduce a new UI. I can't deny that. Whether it's desirable remains to be seen. Innovation doesn't necessarily involve sweeping changes to existing paradigms. If it's truly a better UI, then you'll see others copying it, just like they copied the iPhone's multi-touch, home screens, etc. @Grannyville "If Apple give me the option to remove the Mail, Maps, Stocks, Voice Memo, Weather and YouTube apps from my phone,I'll be happy with 4.0 update :)" Put them all in a folder and stick it on the very last home page by itself. Name the folder "File 13" to be cute.
meason
on Apr 9, 2010
I would just settle for a decent development environment such as Visual Studio over Xcode.
rr0de74@live.com
on Apr 9, 2010
@subzero, pretty much if you dont like it, it will succeed. Dont, I repeat, dont be a financial analyst. "to stop Android from pushing right pass them this year." Dream on. Most real analysts predict 2012 before Android is on par market share wise with the iPhone. I agree with that prediction because Android is the replacement for WinMO. A flood of some good and plenty of under powered junk (we tested 3-4 1.6 Android phones back in October from Sprint and Verizon here at work) being provided by all vendors. Has the Droid even caught up to iPhone 3G sales yet? How about Nexus? The iPad will surpass Nexus sales, total sales in 2010 if it has not already. Not allowing multitasking on the 3G was a smart move. It will be allowed on the 3GS/its Touch partner, iPhone 4.0 hardware/its Touch partner, and the iPad because those devices have enough horse power to use it with out killing the experience.
NoNameAtAll
on Apr 9, 2010
"Not all features on the 3G a given since the hardware probably cant handle it." Backgrounder on jailbroken devices says hi.
Waethorn
on Apr 9, 2010
"If it's truly a better UI, then you'll see others copying it, just like they copied the iPhone's...home screens" Huh? Apple invented a page of grid-aligned icons for launching individual applications?? Have you not even seen a cellphone (or computer) before 2007? @sub: I have to laugh at your comments about ads, and the fact that you have an Android phone, considering who makes Android.
Waethorn
on Apr 9, 2010
"Not allowing multitasking on the 3G was a smart move." Underclocking the processor was a dumb move. The original processor could be clocked to the currently underclocked speed of the 3GS, so this is synthetic limitation of Apple to inflate upgrade rates.
rr0de74@live.com
on Apr 9, 2010
"this is synthetic limitation of Apple to inflate upgrade rates." Or done to provide stability and battery life. @nonameAtAll I dont doubt the multitasking features could run on the 3G. Its probably a lowest common denominator factor. Average user opens 10 apps and leaves them running....complains the device is slow. On a 3G that probably is not an ideal situation because of its slower hardware.
yoshipod
on Apr 9, 2010
"Underclocking the processor was a dumb move. The original processor could be clocked to the currently underclocked speed of the 3GS, so this is synthetic limitation of Apple to inflate upgrade rates." So how would pushing the clock speed on the older models change battery usage or heat generation. I highly doubt Apple underclocked it for marketing reasons as they did in the 1990s since there were no higher end iphones to compete with. What would be the purpose? To sell a faster model one year later? That really makes little sense. I'm sure it was for engineering reasons and not a synthetic limitation as you suggest.
yoshipod
on Apr 9, 2010
"I can't believe that a way to bring more ads to one's phone is described as a feature !!!!" I'm not super thrilled about this, but it should lead to better apps and lower prices. Its kind of like TV. You can pay for HBO and not have commercials or you can watch NBC for free and have to view them. This "feature" is really for developers and not end users. The user gets apps for free if they want to put up with ads, as so many already do. This should just make it easy for the developer to implement and manage the revenue generation part of the app, thus allowing them to spend more time and creativity (hopefully) on the app itself.
Waethorn
on Apr 9, 2010
"Or done to provide stability and battery life." ....but at the cost of inflated prices for the part. In either case, the consumer loses, so quit apologizing for Apple.
meason
on Apr 9, 2010
@yoshipod Why do you assume that an app with ads is going to be free? all iAD does is increase profit for apple and developers and does nothing for the end user at all.
yoshipod
on Apr 9, 2010
"....but at the cost of inflated prices for the part. In either case, the consumer loses, so quit apologizing for Apple." I was unaware the manufacturers of processors will charge you less if underclock them. Or are you just trying to make Apple look bad at any cost?
yoshipod
on Apr 9, 2010
"Why do you assume that an app with ads is going to be free? all iAD does is increase profit for apple and developers and does nothing for the end user at all." Most apps that are free come with some form of advertising. Many apps also use advertising for their "free trials". Of course there is nothing preventing ads from appearing in paid apps, save for consumer backlash. People already tolerate ads in their free apps, so I don't think this is going to be much of an issue to them. My guess is that should a developer put adds in a paid for app, they will suddenly find their sales plummeting.
Waethorn
on Apr 9, 2010
"Why do you assume that an app with ads is going to be free?" Ya, nowhere in Apple's PR presentation did they say that they would require that ads be used for only free applications. Analysts are already assuming that it means that users will still get ads in paid apps just like every other media outlet out there. Yes, it's a Minority Report future already: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ucwrnJBD6c Enjoy!
whiplash55
on Apr 9, 2010
Did I miss the part where they're coming to Verizon? Damn, AT&T signal is a 25 minute drive from m house. I hope Windows Phone team is listening, if 7 is going to be useful at all it needs to multi-task from day 1.
rr0de74@live.com
on Apr 9, 2010
@meason Ads have the potential to generate revenue, read some article today that predicted up to 4.7 billion a year. That said if its not done correctly in a app, then people wont buy it.

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