Mozilla jumps the shark

When a company like Opera complains about Microsoft, I sort of get it. No one uses this browser on PCs, and no one ever will. (Indeed, Opera was the last "major" browser maker to stop trying to charge for its product, despite the fact that every single OS has come with a free Web browser preinstalled by default for well over a decade.) (And, please, dear God, please. Don't try to argue that Opera's share is low because the browser reports itself as a different browser. No one uses Opera. No one. There are more Safari users, for crying out loud.)

When the European Union complains about Microsoft's bundling of IE, I don't get it. The US has already curbed Microsoft's anti-competitive behavior quite nicely, thank you very much, and as noted above, every single OS sold or given away today comes with a free Web browser. Asking Microsoft to remove theirs is anti-competitive, pure and simple. People are sophisticated enough to download a new browser if they want one. Let's just be honest about that.

But when Mozilla--the one company that has made very serious market share gains against Microsoft recently--agrees with the EU and with Opera that Microsoft's Web browser abuses of 1995-2000 are still very real and ongoing, and that they will help the EU in their case against the software giant, I think it's time to drag out an increasingly tired statement: Mozilla has jumped the shark.

This saddens me. I use and recommend Mozilla Firefox and feel that it is the best browser out there.

It's free, by the way. And it jumped from 18 percent usage share in May 2008 to 21 percent by the end of last year. This despite the "bundling" of IE with Windows. (And, presumably, the "bundling" of Safari with Mac OS X. Oh, and did I mention that Firefox is "bundled" with virtually every Linux distribution there is?) In other words, the usage share for Firefox in the Web browser market is over double what the usage share is for the Mac is (in the US) in the PC market. And no one ever gets tired of talking up Apple's successes. Firefox is over twice as successful as the Mac (from a usage share perspective). And it took less than half the time.

So. Looking ahead, I need to think things through. Will IE 8 be good enough that I can simply abandon a product that is made by a corporation I simply cannot support? Perhaps. Is this issue big enough to force me to actually make a stand? It just may be.

Discuss this Article 116

Waethorn
on Feb 11, 2009
I don't actually recall anything in the DoJ case where it specifically said that Microsoft was forcing companies to use their software. I do remember that they were "caught" giving computer manufacturers discounts on software when they met exclusivity contracts. They do the same thing to business customers that sign "Company-Wide" volume license agreements though. How is that any different?
Master3
on Feb 11, 2009
"Yes, an echo chamber is much more comfortable with any of those annoying fact-based opposing views. " Echo chamber? What, you think trolls like you, Ocean, Yawn, and robertjoe , actually provide anything of value that supposedly balances out this alleged echo chamber. All you idiots do is post off-topic links, flames, threaten other posters and generally attack Paul for just having the nerve to be critical of Apple form time to time. it's a #$@ blog and you @zzhats act like this is CNN and is corrupting the minds of the public. Like a lot of people said. If you dont like the views here, then stat you own damn blog where you can post negative MS links all darn day!
Master3
on Feb 11, 2009
"boyreinvented said: "What I'm saying is, Apple doesn't push it's OS on other hardware. Microsoft pushes it's OS on pretty much all hardware going and in it's OS it pushes Microsoft programs. There is little alternative. Forcing the hardware market to only use your OS is anti-competitive and therefore bundling your software with the OS is also anticompetitive. If you think otherwise, you're just confirming my opinion of you." Ok, smartguy, who's forcing these companies to use Windows? A. The Market B. Microsoft Oh I know you want to say B, because you have this bizarre little troll in you head saying that icrosoft goes to these companies and at the point of a gun, is DEMANDING that they use only Windows and Windows ALOOOOOOONE. But you see, that isnt happening. Some of these companies are using Linux on some machines, like netbooks, and they are finding out that they.....dont sell all that well. That is what we call the market deciding. You know like how the market wants to use iPods over other brands, thus allowing ITunes to be FORCED UPON US!!!!! The Apple-fawning tech media calls that the "halo effect". And I'm sure you do too, because Apple is goooooooooooooooood and MS is ((((((EVIL)))))). because these childish debates always seem to boil down to that with you clown.
Dude1313
on Feb 11, 2009
Typically glossed over but quoted for truth: chuckb84 said: "Master3 said: "chuckb84 said: Remember, Paul makes money from Microsoft, not Mozilla, Linux or Apple, hence the faux outrage." Really? So you have the photo of Ballmer handing Paul a check, right? Or something that constitute proof to people who are not morons?" Uh, he writes books about Microsoft products, his entire livelihood depends on Microsoft succeeding. I didn't say anything about "Ballmer handing Paul a check". He just has a vested interest. He's not objective. Paul says it himself, "It's time for Microsoft to respond to the challenges it faces with leadership and authority. And if you care about the systems you support now, your jobs, and your very livelihood, you might do demand the same from the company. All of us have backed the same horse." His livelihood depends on Microsoft. That's his statement, not mine. I just point out that it makes his technical commentary about, oh, Apple, Linux, Mozilla, and Google, somewhat suspect. He may not even realize the double standard. Read the Upton Sinclair quote again." This is the most "on the mark" commentary of Paul yet. ********************************** tayme said: Is Mozilla and the EU complaining about the bundling of IE or the integration of IE in the OS? There is a difference. ********************************** Agreed. Give me the ability to be able to remove IE on the PC (and Safari on the Mac for that matter) and it would be gone. Firefox the best thing to happen to the web since the dawn of the web itself; Anything that breaks the strangulating grip of IE is to be applauded dispiet what others are cheer leading about in IE8.
tayme
on Feb 11, 2009
@chuckb84 - "I'm sorry, but nearly everyone IS forced to use that junk" This is an old and tired argument. Please explain to me who is being "forced" to use Microsoft software. Don't fall back on the lame argument that at work, people are forced to use it...that is not Microsoft's fault. We are all free to choose where we work, if you don't like your job or the tools that are required to do that job...move on. If somebody built a better mousetrap, it would get used. The fact is that Windows on the desktop is easy to deploy and support. In the datacenter, the same can be said...but the big horses are *nix powered there. I've said this before, being the family and neighborhood "tech guy", if I have a home user that I know does not have safe browsing habits or tends to foul things up regularly on a PC, I always suggest a Mac. It saves me a lot of headaches. But in the enterprise...not so much. By now, I'd think that the rabid Mac fans, like you and the rest of the glee club that hangs out here, would be over that...but obviously, you are not. --tayme
Dipsh t Admin
on Feb 11, 2009
"I've got NO problem with Microsoft if they fully open up and license the proprietary file formats that they use to keep the computing world in shackles. As soon as you don't have to have Windows for basic functions, office, exchange, directx, users will run screaming to alternate choices." They license ActiveSync freely as we can see, so anyone is free to build a better mouse trap if they wish. Exchange is a product that they sell, so is Office and DirectX is part of the OS that they created. I don't understand your contention here. These are products that they developed (or bought the company that did), and they are selling them for profit. Same thing with Office formats, which are available for free for anyone to use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCX In fact, Apple uses the format too. Under this reasoning, Apple should do the same and open up the dominant iTunes store to other players, should they not?
Dipsh t Admin
on Feb 11, 2009
"If you really think it's incorrect, go look it up in this book" Well, I already looked it up in respectable dictionaries, and they all seem to agree with lotsa and I.
shark47
on Feb 11, 2009
Microsoft's bundling IE with Windows hurt competition in the 90s. I agree with that. That said, OSs today are a lot different from those in the 90s. A browser is more or less an integral part of the OS and forcing Microsoft or any other company to unbundle it, IMHO, would only hurt the consumer. It might help competition, but it'll definitely hurt the consumer. Firefox's growing marketshare indicates that people are smart enough to download it and install it on their computers. This is especially true in Europe. Another argument is that Microsoft is forcing companies to use its software. That's a tired, old argument. Do you mean that OEMs wouldn't be glad to install other OSs on their computers if there was a market for it?
johnpapola
on Feb 11, 2009
I 100% agree with you, Paul. 100%. The EU is quite simply an socialist, anti-innovation, anti-profit, anti-American anti-prosperity mess. This is the regime of nations like France who won't let failures like Airbus die. It is a museum of dead economic ideas and companies where unemployment was in double-digits during the boom times. Microsoft should be able to do whatever it wants with it's products. Period.
Waethorn
on Feb 11, 2009
@tayme: This statement is wrong: "You sell the solution, possibly assit in the deployment, and move on." Most of my customers also get managed services or on-site maintenance from me as well. There are only a few that don't, but only because they have full-time on-site IT people. (There are even some that have on-site IT but still rely on services in the operations cycle post-purchase) I am not just in IT sales, sorry to say.
chuckb84
on Feb 11, 2009
@Dipsh t Admin "Under this reasoning, Apple should do the same and open up the dominant iTunes store to other players, should they not?" Yes, they should. However, I don't feel that music downloads are as fundamental as spreadsheets and office documents. Microsoft knows that .doc, .xls, .ppt and Exchange are how they keep corporate America right where they want them. It's true that some slow progress is being made, .docx is "open", well, mostly. However, most offices still use the older, proprietary Microsoft formats. This change will take some time, but it is a good change. Question: Do you think Microsoft wanted to do this? Every action they've taken has been in opposition to these changes. Paul, in particular, is utterly opposed to Microsoft opening up formats, and this is from the guy who says he's all about "choice". Read the Upton Sinclar quote AGAIN. @Master3 "What, you think trolls like you, Ocean, Yawn, and robertjoe , actually provide anything of value that supposedly balances out this alleged echo chamber. All you idiots do is post off-topic links, flames, threaten other posters and generally attack Paul for just having the nerve to be critical of Apple form time to time. it's a #$@ blog and you @zzhats act like this is CNN and is corrupting the minds of the public." You're quite right. I provide nothing of any use, like background on the blogger, his previous postions, contradictory statements, biases and vested interests. Your erudite commentary shows me to be totally wrong.
Waethorn
on Feb 11, 2009
"Well, I already looked it up in respectable dictionaries, and they all seem to agree with lotsa and I." I guess you don't consider an American dictionary legitimate then. Funny, that. I'll bet that losta will disagree with you.
RobertC
on Feb 11, 2009
@Waethorn Stop being vacuous. Your press release is out of date. http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0473293.htm "Ericsson (NASDAQ: ERIC) will perform the first-ever demonstration of the new HSPA multi-carrier technology for peak downlink data rates of 42Mbps at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Spain. Australian operator Telstra, currently pioneering HSPA downlink data rates of up to 21Mbps in their Next G(TM) commercial network, welcomes the demonstration of the multi-carrier technology, which will significantly improve consumer experience in the entire network coverage area. ... Mike Wright, Executive Director Telstra Wireless says: "This exciting concept demonstration shows the strength of the HSPA technology on which we have based our Next G(TM) network. The Telstra and Ericsson partnership has grown through the various releases of HSPA and has delivered tremendously successful high speed broadband services to millions of Australians. It is impressive to see the next evolution in action today as an indication of what carriers will be able to experience by the end of the year." 11th February 2009
Waethorn
on Feb 11, 2009
"However, most offices still use the older, proprietary Microsoft formats. This change will take some time, but it is a good change." Change for the sake of change is pointless. If there are companies using binary formats now, the reason is because they don't care about cross-platform compatibility for the foreseeable future. For a company to invest thousands in converting users over to the new format just to say that they, themselves, are "open", and maybe, sometime in the future, just possibly they might need interoperability, they should just go ahead and fire their CTO. If a company is already set on Microsoft platform technologies, they won't make any kind of investment outside of their planned cycle, and even then, backwards compatibility is going to take precedence over some perceived future "openness". Only if they need platform compatibility are they going to actively investigate the need to convert. Otherwise, they'll just accept the defaults given to them or force older already-established standards.
Ocean
on Feb 11, 2009
""Under this reasoning, Apple should do the same and open up the dominant iTunes store to other players, should they not?" Yes, they should."" Thus the DRM-free music downloads.
Waethorn
on Feb 11, 2009
@RobertC: Thanks for backing up my argument with additional proof. A demo does not equal deployment. This is a technology demo only. With Ericsson hardware. Only 1, fixed (ie. needing AC power) broadband router. Not Telstra's network. How can an Australian provider do a legitimate demo in Spain anyway? Answer: They can't. It's a demo by Ericsson to showcase the technology. "Australian operator Telstra, currently pioneering HSPA downlink data rates of **up to** 21Mbps" This also backs up my quote from the November 2008 press release stating that it will take a few years to reach this peak data rate for the entire network, and that they are only beginning the rollout. Here's the most important line too: "Ericsson's HSPA multi-carrier technology will be ready for commercial implementation by the end of 2009." That also doesn't mean deployment. It only means that Ericsson will have the equipment ready. Carriers have to do their own testing after release, with limited-area trials. When it's approved, they'll start mass-deploying it. Get a clue. Just because a company releases a new piece of technology doesn't mean a provider will deploy it instantly. Also, being that this is a plug-in router, it makes mobile broadband still forthcoming, since there are no other devices announced with dual-channel HSPA+.

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