Windows 7 Battery Life Worse on Netbooks

Laptop Magazine has some surprising news for Windows 7 battery life, at least on three netbooks: It's not as good as it was on XP. Here's what they found:

Back in August when we started testing the final version of Windows 7, we noticed that several netbooks didn’t last as long on a charge with the new OS installed as with Windows XP. Microsoft claimed that Win 7 notebooks would see longer battery life than Vista, and for the two full-size systems we upgraded that rang true. The Dell XPS Studio 16 only got an extra few minutes, but the Gateway NV lasted an extra hour. Netbooks have been a different story.

Recently we tested Windows 7 versions of the Toshiba mini NB205 and ASUS Eee PC 1008HA, and now  HP’s Mini 311 with Windows 7 has been released. The results don’t look good. In each case we tested the three systems using the LAPTOP Battery Test (continuous web surfing over Wi-Fi) and in each case the Windows 7 machines got less battery life.

What's interesting about this is that netbooks are one of the few ways in which to accurately test Windows 7 battery life vs. that of XP, since this is the only market where you can find the same machines in which both OSes have been included. With mainstream laptops, the battery life differences (between Vista and 7, in that case) seem to be less dramatic.

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panache1023
on Nov 12, 2009
Non-issue. I would expect Win7 to have worse life than XP... I would hope (and it seems to be the case) that it has better battery life than Vista. 7 added a lot more over XP...This seems like a non-story.
anonymous
on Nov 12, 2009
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rjohn05
on Nov 12, 2009
I agree. I don't think this is an issue at all. And I certainly could care less about battery on a netbook. I would be surprised if there were a lot of people who would keep their xp netbook as opposed to upgrading to Win7 just because they want to save 47minutes of battery life.
pthurrott
on Nov 12, 2009
This is a big issue. Consumers can still choose between XP and 7, and if 7 isn't getting the battery life of XP, there's your reason to keep resuscitating an 8-year old OS.
Kmctechguy
on Nov 12, 2009
Figured there would have to be something negative about Windows 7, but is the battery life so much worse that you wouldn't want to run Windows 7?I bet not, so unless there is hours lost, my next netbook will be with Windows 7.
panache1023
on Nov 12, 2009
Paul, You have a point, but look at this analogy... As cars (typical cars, not hybrids, or electric, etc) get bigger, and more powerful, their gas efficiency becomes worse. Same with this...if you want the extra processing required for it comes at a cost... That's just how life is...now look what they did..they took a lot of the issues with Vista and rectified them...so battery life just increased from Vista to 7. That's great! What were the parameters of the test? Maybe if they turned certain things off and other things on, it would be different. Again...non-story.
sttevo
on Nov 12, 2009
panache1023, well I'm glad you get to make that decision mate. Cars are a completely irrelevant. Why do people buy netbooks? Portability. A big part of that is battery life, rather than the "". I'm not saying those features aren't useful, but come on... these things are limited to begin with. So I think a massive concern when yes, a consumer can go out and buy an XP or Linux machine that will do the trick better than Win7.
EricoF3
on Nov 12, 2009
Hmmm ... I thing is not a big issue here ... Netbook is not a real issue for me so... But... Windows 7 is not a copy of OSX...
Andreas J
on Nov 12, 2009
I'm sure it has to do with Aero. Anyway, at one point I installed Vista onto my netbook(big mistake). It only got 2 hours of battery life. I just upgraded it to Windows 7, and the battery has boosted up to 4 hours. If i switch the power mode to "Power Saver", it gets about 4 hours and 37 minutes, about the same as Windows XP got.
whiplash55
on Nov 12, 2009
My experience varies my Dell Inspiron with the 9 cell battery gets close to an hour more battery life than with Vista. I did a upgrade install over the Vista install and it worked great after uninstalled a few programs. My netbook a HP 2140 with the small 3 cell battery gets about the same battery life with 7 as with XP. The battery life on that model has always been very poor, I never ran it for more than 2 hours if that before plugging it in. The battery also loses more power between uses than any other laptop I've used so the battery itself may be an issue.
EricoF3
on Nov 12, 2009
sttevo said: "Cars are a completely irrelevant. Why do people buy netbooks? Portability. [...]" Not so irrelevant. Effectively people buy netbook for portability but it is always a matter of compromise ... For myself I prefer less portability if I have to use a portable computer because Netbook are just too slow even with XP... I try a toshiba netbook, god! It was a bad experience!! Just using XP is a bad experience compared with 7 so I will prefer a Laptop 15" over a netbook... If I had to choose between a Windws 7 net book and a XP net book I will not hesitate, The 7 one will win, just because the OS experience, is much more important than battery life... Be for me it is not the first problem... Net book are too slow with any OS so...
robertsjoe
on Nov 12, 2009
Battery life on netbooks and laptops has always been inferior when running Windows, as compared to the far superior OS X.
daveinla
on Nov 12, 2009
Waoow 20% more battery life is a big + for XP vs. 7 !! I would have expected 7 to consume more, but 20 % !!
mikegalos@msn.com
on Nov 12, 2009
Premise: Battery life worse on Windows 7 than on MS-DOS 5.0 Conclusion: Users will want to use an 18 year old Operating System. Just about equally silly... In other news, Apple ][c uses less power than Dual Xeon MacPro. Film at 11
panache1023
on Nov 12, 2009
sttevo, it's called an analogy for a reason. You do have some points...but maybe it's time for battery life technology to keep up with computer hardware/software technology. I would say that your point is more relevant in regards to Vista than 7.
daveinla
on Nov 12, 2009
subzerohitman721
on Nov 12, 2009
Paul, In a small sense, you have a point. However, we all know that portable battery storage is still very much in its infancy compared to the power and duties required of most nettops running one of the best OS'es on the planet. However, the solution to this problem is very easy. Just buy a second battery. With the exception of ASUS Eee PC PC 1008HA, the other two have removable batteries. You can quite easily buy a second battery and double your power needs. When I do my research for a notebook or if I was buying a netbook, removeable battery is a must. If any model doesn't have it, I automatically reject it. In this day and age, removeable storage should be a necessity. Infact, I believe they even sell additional storage for nettops/laptops that don't have removeable batteries. A little cumbersome but at least there's a workaround. Now its up to HP, ASUS, and Toshiba to work with Microsoft to see what they can do to fix this. Maybe a driver or setting change can improve the situation here. However, nobody should go back to XP. There's no reason too. I'd rather buy the extra battery and be on a modern, secure, and the new mainstream OS of the entire PC industry. The lost average of 46 minutes is manageable with time management or a second battery pack. Honestly, would you tell some diehard Mac user to stay on Puma, Jaguar, Panther, or Tiger to maintain compatibility with the old PowerPC code? Of course not! You'd use what was the most current, supported, and has the best security. If its true of Mac users, its the same with Windows users. XP needs to die and the faster it dies, the better it is for everyone else.
cschlegel
on Nov 12, 2009
Intriguing (disturbing?) information but not complete... there is too little to go on. As a Technical Architect I want to know why W7 yields less battery life. Surely there is some way to compensate for this or am I missing something? Of course it would be best for Microsoft to contribute here and perhaps "fix" the problem -- if that is a good characterization. (Paul, thanks for the great site, Podcast... the whole 9 yards.)
BrightrevCarl
on Nov 12, 2009
The article doesn't mention whether they turned Aero on or off during the test. My assumption is that Aero was on and that accounts for the difference in battery life. I'd like to see the same test done on the same Netbooks with Aero off to show whether *those* results change from XP to Windows 7.
chuckb84
on Nov 12, 2009
It is an issue. The whole point of Windows 7 is to get users to move off XP, which Vista didn't manage. So far, it doesn't look so good: ":As Windows 7 picks up user share, it seems to be making most of its gains at the expense of Vista. In fact, there seems to be a direct correlation between Windows 7 adoption and Vista abandonment, with the latter losing a percentage point and the former gaining the same in a little over a week. Of course, the lion's share of our user base remains on Windows XP. And with this legacy OS holding steady at just under 64 percent, it seems clear that the fence-sitters in the Vista-versus-XP debate remain firmly seated on their perches." A report like this on battery life won't help.
Keleko
on Nov 12, 2009
The biggest group of XP users are corporations, and very few of them are early adopters of a new OS. Heck, I'm thinking it may be 2013 before I can get Windows 7 on my company purchased laptop. I get a new one in spring of 2010, and I doubt they'll be sending out Windows 7 then. I'll get another XP system most likely. So I have to wait 3 years for that one to go out of service before I get another new one. If MS keeps the same release schedule for Windows 8, I'll start using 7 when 8 is out. As for battery life, how many people really rely solely on battery these days? Most people I see with laptops have the power cord with them and plug it in right away. But then most of the cheap Windows laptops (not netbooks) don't even have 3 hours of battery life, so the battery really isn't that important.
Cold_realms
on Nov 12, 2009
Sadly this is a non issue... All of the energy saving features of 7 over Vista and XP are not in the non stop stress test but in real world use where we are not hammering on the machine constantly until the thing dies. I would conjecture that for a benchmark to be accurate then we would need to record several different types of people using their laptops over the course of several hours doing what they normally would do and run those as tests. Withl all the same pauses and chances for the cpu to idle and enter low power states that happen behind the scenes all the time under regular use.
whiplash55
on Nov 12, 2009
At least with most PC laptops you can swap out the battery and aren't stuck with one stupid non changeable battery, which also did away with their excellent albeit short lived hard drive and ram access. It seems the megalomaniac couldn't handle any seams on the bottom of his laptops so now most users have to waste a few days while they get their battery or oft failing hard drive replaced. Whatever the battery life when new, a year or 2 into owning a laptop the battery deteriorates significantly, meaning you take it in for an replacement, or you live with it. Another Apple "innovation" like their DVD drives that most Mac users "fix" by replacing the laptop.
Dipsh t Admin
on Nov 13, 2009
"I would conjecture that for a benchmark to be accurate then we would need to record several different types of people using their laptops over the course of several hours doing what they normally would do and run those as tests. Withl all the same pauses and chances for the cpu to idle and enter low power states that happen behind the scenes all the time under regular use." That's a very good point. Many of the changes made to 7 were in more efficient use of battery life using REAL world scenarios, not some test that is designed to drain battery life. This makes many battery life tests as they are currently done somewhat irrelevant. Paul, I've got to disagree. You have said many times how you miss the enhancements in the newer versions of Windows when you have to use older versions. It is these enhancements that make a person more productive in their time. So while on paper they may more battery life on XP, but are they more productive on 7 and therefore need less battery life? And with the much quicker suspend and resume times with 7 compared to the laboriously slow XP (especially hibernates), it is not as much of a hit to constantly suspend and resume as it was on XP. Those that require more battery life will of course purchase bigger and more batteries. Until fuel cells come along, this will be the way to do things for some time to come. And RJ, if you wanted your MacBook with a sealed battery to get more battery life than it is capable of, how would you do that? Get another MacBook?
yoshipod
on Nov 13, 2009
"Btw, i think that Microsoft could not care less about offering great user experience to netbooks users as netbooks is trongly hurting their profit margin. Thus the fact that the Windows Team manage to have even Windows 7 ultimate work great on these devices is already a great achievement." Netbooks don't hurt Microsoft's profit margins, they hurt the hardware manufacturer's. Look at Paul's example about his netbook. He buys one for $350, then pays an $80 Microsoft Tax for the ability to run a non-crippled version of Windows 7. Sounds like Microsoft make MORE money this way. I'm sure they get $30+ plus from the Manufacturer for the Starter license. Add in the $80 upgrade and they are getting over $100.
whiplash55
on Nov 13, 2009
Just to see if 7 had a noticeable effect on my netbook I used it last night and got just under 3 hours with my HP 2140. It was at 17% when I plugged it in which is about as low as I normally let it go. I think it was at least as long as I got with XP if not longer, like I said earlier this netbook has lousy battery life to begin with. These netbooks with 9 hours of battery life amaze me I've never had a laptop that got much more than 4 so I wonder how they do it? The test only covered 3 laptops so I have to wonder how valid it is.
ShinyNugget
on Nov 13, 2009
Reason it's in an issue: Technology should get better, faster and more efficient with each revision. Win7 should be better than XP/Vista in EVERY respect including battery life. User's with XP netbooks that get excellent battery life won't upgrade as readily to a Win7 netbook. Reason it's not an issue: Microsoft has worked deals with vendors to ensure Win7 is the dominant/only OS available on a netbook at the point of sale. Just as in laptop and desktop sales Win7 will come to the most common netbook OS through a mere lack of alternatives. Reason it's in an issue: Tech savvy users will opt to install XP/Linux/Hacintosh OS's on their Win7 netbook. Microsoft will get to claim the sales numbers but actual use will decline below projections. Reason it's an issue: Batteries can't be swapped with out shutting the machine down a rebooting. Then you have to charge the spare and most netbooks only charge their battery will it's in the machine and hooked to the wall. How many users actually buy a charging unit for their spare battery? That's if they buy a spare battery at all and a charging device exists for it. Not a given. Reason it's an issue: Everything is an issue. Just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't mean it doesn't matter. Every user has different needs and battery life is extremely important to a large number of us in our portable devices. Dismissing the needs of a user base is how companys lose customers.

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