Windows 7 Beta Network Performance

My main problem with win7 (now that the taskbar has been resolved with that middle button click) is that zune 64bit software crashes on installation... Im hoping it gets fixed though it could just be me.

OK, so this is waaay off topic, but I have to get it out somewhere, and by no means near, this is the closest to the subject as I can get. In M3 the handwriting recognition for Swedish language on tablet PC finally worked. M$ Sweden has promised this functionality for sooo long, first it was in Vista, then in Vista SP1 and now in 7. It is a very strange business approach *not* to get this available. In Sweden all students (yes all - those who don't have opted out for whatever reason, availability is not the issue) and WiFi, 3G and broadband is everywhere. I'm constantly on line one way or the other. Many students go for Mac, because, really it is cooler, but if they would have had the option of making notes on a Tablet, I'm pretty sure that market would rise, with Windows sales (torrent downloads?) going up. Being a researcher myself, I know I long for handwriting recognition in my own language. Anyway, back to the issue. As I said, in M3 Swedish handwriting recognition was finally available. You won't believe my joy. But alas, in the Beta, Swedish language handwriting recognition is not there. What the...?! They take functionality *away* in the "function complete" version? What does it mean? That it will not be there in the RTM? I get screwed again? I'm so frustrated! Sorry but I have to ask you guys. Good luck asking *Microsoft*... I had so hoped that my first post would be a positive one. But I may add that I had all sorts of issues with wireless networking (I have a domain server, WHS, numerous clients, the whole shabam) on M3. The wireless network card would die without any warning, requiring a reboot, network connection would drop for no apparent reason, singal strenght was flaky. So on the same machine with same hardware (the Acer TM C210) and 7Beta, I have still to encounter the same issues. Was probably a driver thing. In M3 I had to install some drivers, but with Beta all is up and running without me having to install a single one. Look! Something positive after all! BTW: I'm all 32 Bit - for whatever reason. Cheers!

Angel of Death btw: I had the same wireless problems for a while and it turned out to be a buggy driver that was fixed by a driver update. I'd guess that there's something in a specific chipset that was fixed by my OEM's updated Vista driver but that wasn't fixed in the Acer driver until they did the Windows 7 version.

Raaj, I would say it's nothing to do with network performance, but Outlook 2007 itself, as I suffer from the same problem on XP SP3 and a local copy of the PST file. This despite the fact that Outlook 2007 was the one which closed the file itself when I closed Outlook 2007 (and yes I made sure the process quit too).

OT: But Breaking... This is a copy of the mail Steve Jobs posted to Apple employees this afternoon: =========================== Team, I am sure all of you saw my letter last week sharing something very personal with the Apple community. Unfortunately, the curiosity over my personal health continues to be a distraction not only for me and my family, but everyone else at Apple as well. In addition, during the past week I have learned that my health-related issues are more complex than I originally thought. In order to take myself out of the limelight and focus on my health, and to allow everyone at Apple to focus on delivering extraordinary products, I have decided to take a medical leave of absence until the end of June. I have asked Tim Cook to be responsible for Apple’s day to day operations, and I know he and the rest of the executive management team will do a great job. As CEO, I plan to remain involved in major strategic decisions while I am out. Our board of directors fully supports this plan. I look forward to seeing all of you this summer. Steve

Mike, that's some pretty serious news about Steve Jobs. I hope he has a speedy recovery from whatever it is.

How much do you wanna bet that he's undergoing cancer treatments again?

I agree with the wishes for Jobs' speedy and full recovery. With that said, I find the fascination with him similar to that of Obama (actually, I guess it should be vice-versa, since Jobs has been in the spotlight for much longer). Even people like mikegalos and Waethorn seem to be obsessing on the guy's health. --tayme

@sharky - Like I said...just like Obama! ;-) <-- Kinda winking --tayme

yipcanjo, I've not had any problems getting our vista machines to map network drives using a login .bat script, on either 32 or 64 bit. Never had to hack the registry either.

Microsoft SongSmith: A Fail to Remember The epic fail of the video and the product bring to mind one of the better movie pans of 2008, a scorcher in The New York Times of Mike Myers' "The Love Guru." "A whole new vocabulary seems to be required," critic A.O. Scott wrote, searching for the words to capture his horror. http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/americangeek/archive/2009/01/14/microsoft...

One would think Ocean and robertsjoe would get along like a house on fire. It's a shame, really. "That article is a good example of the press' bias against Microsoft and for Apple...again, it reminds me of the love affair that the media has with Barack Obama." Ooh, I felt this thrill going up my leg when I watched Obama on that show. :)

@tayme: So you're saying that Apple is like Obama. Microsoft is G.W. Bush. Makes sense. Cool, interesting and visionary is Apple/Obama. Lame, dumb and evil is Microsoft/Bush. You're right.

>>If Microsoft created something truly exciting, cool and interesting, then the press would care.<< The press cares about Windows 7. Paul calling Steve Jobs a liar in 3, 2, 1....

So who is right and who is wrong: >>"We believe that during Jobs' absence, Apple's sales will be unaffected," analyst Gene Munster told clients in a memo reacting to this afternoon's announcement that Jobs has elected to take a medical leave of absence from his day-to-day leadership role at the Cupertino-based company through June. "More importantly, we believe the pace of innovation will remain solid, driven by key product-minded executives," he continued. "From an operational perspective, we expect [chief operating officer Tim] Cook to maintain the same standard of excellence that he demands as COO."<< or >>the essence of Steve Jobs — the obsessive visionary who involves himself in the smallest details of Apple’s products and advertising — has fostered what is in effect a corporate operating system that will need to be completely upgraded whenever a successor is named. After all, however talented the executives at Apple, one skill they all need is an understanding of how to work with, and when appropriate, defer to, the whims of Steve Jobs. << (NYtimes tech blogger)

"How much do you wanna bet that he's undergoing cancer treatments again?" How much you wanna bet "waethorn" just can't help being an obnoxious pr1ck?

lotsa "How much you wanna bet "waethorn" just can't help being an obnoxious pr1ck?" Considering that you used the news about Jobs as an opportunity to launch an ad hominem attack against me, you are absolutely the last person who can talk about people's comments on Jobs' health.

abhinov.k.s. "Just a thought. Isn't the following mentioned specifically in the Windows 7 beta EULA? You may not disclose the results of any benchmark tests of the software to any third party without Microsoft’s prior written approval" Of course. And, unfortunately, it's often ignored. Which leads to companies not including as much monitoring code in betas. Which leads to less effective betas. Which leads to less well tested products. Which leads to worse products. But, it gets the unscrupulous writer more hits on their page. Of course, we're at such a low point in industry "journalism" that I've even seen one relatively well known blogger post how he should be sent early information from companies under embargo and then ignore the embargo because he shouldn't have to live under anyone's terms but his own. And paint the companies' as the bad guys for expecting him to honor his agreements.

Great to see Hotmale losing users and GMail growing so fast. "Gmail grew 43 percent last year to 29.6 million. In contrast, the much more massive Yahoo Mail grew 11 percent to 91.9 million uniques. AOL Mail finished in second place for the year with 46.6 million uniques (plus another 7.2 million visitors to AIM Mail), while Hotmail actually declined 5 percent to 43.5 million." http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/14/gmail-grew-43-percent-last-year-aol...

"I get to the office, jump on the LAN and start the copy, roughly 600meg, about 5000 files. Vista told me it was going to take 4 hours." I call it like I see it: bullsh*t (or incompetent IT - take your pick). I'ved used Vista RTM at pre-consumer launch with Small Business Server 2003 R2 (based on Windows Server 2003 no less). My data loadout consists of ~30GB, which needed to be copied to my notebook at the time (a Core [1] Duo 1.6GHz with WiFi-G) as an offline folder sync. It took all of about 20 minutes to complete after connecting the system to the domain. @mike: Survival rates of pancreatic cancer are slim to nil in the long term. If someone actually had pancreatic cancer for this many years, they'd come out of cancer treatments looking like Skeletor in a beatnik costume: witness Steve Jobs at last years WWDC....Then a no-show at this years Macworld....Put 2 & 2 together. A hormonal imbalance can be easy treated by medication. 6 months off isn't justified for that. If it were chemo treatments, you could be looking at 3 months off and maybe another 3 for recovery for good measure. Of course, if he came back to work bald, you know damn well that someone would leak it to either shareholders and/or the public, and Apple can't afford to lose stock value at this point in time (nobody can). Apple is just reporting this as PR fluff for shareholders to keep them at least partially satisfied. If Apple reported the truth, it would come down a lot harder on them. They'll just play a "wait and see" until later this year when the economy should be recovering, otherwise if they took a downfall now, they wouldn't come out of the gutter. There are no consumers right now that want to buy a $3000 laptop.

Your funny Waethorn. How could someone be incompetent it was a copy and past to a mapped drive?? I never finished the copy I aborted used a USB stick and moved the files to it, then plugged it into a server. It could have only taken an hour. Also this issues is very widely known and discussed all over the place. Maybe your such a complete blind tool that you never saw it or did but you MS colored goggles shielded you from it. Here is that technet forum with 692 posts about the problem. Many calling MS out with please to fix the problem. The last post was on 1/9/09 and the first was 1/2/07. A lot of incompetent IT people out there! http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistadesktopui/thr... Like I said I guess the problem has not been fixed hence this thread.

I found that Vista was a little slower than xp when copying large files to a 2003 Server, but not horrendously slow. I don't know if I will get the chance to do that same test with the Windows 7 beta though. Still, as the comments to the original article indicate, you should be using robocopy anyways. It would be interesting to see the results of the same script but using robocopy instead of copy.

Lotsa "It was a question, not an "attack". " This isn't some wierd variety of "Jeopardy" where framing an ad hominem attack in the form of a question changes it from being an attack. As I said before when you used the news of Steve Jobs' illness as an excuse for ad hominem attack, you're not exactly a class act, are you? Note that was a question so it wasn't an "attack".

Waethorn Remember, Lotsa phrased his attack in the form of a question so in his bizarro-Jeopardy world, it's not an attack.

Gizmodo is now reporting that Jim Goldman, the CNBC Silicon Valley bureau chief that Dan Lyons said was punked by Apple has done a 180. http://i.gizmodo.com/5131629/fakemodo-cnbcs-jim-goldmans-apple-sources-r... From reading Goldman's latest column, it looks like he's changed from being in the 2nd group of reporters covering Apple - what Dan Lyons referred to as "the other kind who suck up in order to get access and end up getting played and punked" and is now in Lyons' 1st category, "the kind who realize they're getting snowed and they're getting bullied and they're getting blocked out and realize that a lot of what they're being told is not true " That's a least a little step in the right direction for press coverage.