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Stephen Chapman continues his slow leaking of Windows 7 build 6780 screenshots….
Good stuff as always.
Thanks Dave!
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It's worth noting that the big collection of pictures that Stephen Chapman took these from (With full credit given) is at: http://www.thinknext.net/archives/2268
And there are a couple of short videos showing the start menu and the calculator at http://www.thinknext.net/archives/2273
Looks like I'm getting the equivalent of the hp 16c calculator as one option. Cool!
Nice screenshots. Windows 7 is actually looking very good and seems to be building on all the good work done in Vista. The new calculator's very cool.
BTW, one of the entries in the Start menu in the screenshot is ThinkNext.net
shark
That's the spot for the link to the user's files. The screenshots were done by ThinkNext.net and they're using that as their logon name.
Wow, an, ahem, new calculator and menu thingy. I hope they have patented these cause everyone's gonna wanna copy them.
There are sections of Vista that did not change from XP. Almost like they did not have time to finish it.
So its looks like that are going back and cleaning it up/finishing it. Vista R2 is what they should name it. Corporations would like that, joe user would not.
Scooby.
If history's any guide, you'll see the new calculator cloned before Windows 7 makes it out of beta.
The Mac fanatic's dilemma:
"I have to come up with a snarky remark about Windows 7, but I don't know what to say. "
"Do I say something or keep quiet?"
" Naah. I'm a Mac fanatic. I cannot resist the urge. I'll go ahead and say something and hope people find it funny."
I just hope these anti-everything-MSFT pests (you know who you are!) on this blog leave once and for all, and find refuge on TUAW or MacRumors. We sorely miss an ignore option.
I'm still shocked frankly that the built in calculator can't do things that basic students need though. Still not real financial mode (think HP 12C) or nor a basic graphing capability, which the Mac has had for a little bit now if I remember correctly?
I hated having to spend money on a business calculator for finance and accounting, and sometimes Excel is just overkill.
fireboy92k
For people who need a more sophisticated calculator but not the full package of Excel, there's Microsoft Math 3.0.
http://www.microsoft.com/learningspace/Products.aspx?prod=math
I saw those thinknext.net screenshots via Mary-Jo Foley's. One thing that I don't like about the UI (and hopefully will either change or have options) is the all-text toolbar. The new version of Windows Live Mail has a toolbar like that and it's kind of confusing 'cause you have to stop and read the label rather than identify the icon on the toolbar.
@techfan - I like the all-text toolbar. I have more trouble remembering the meaning of an icon than reading a word. But that's just me. It would be interesting to see the research on this sort of thing.
It's nice to see how the UI is evolving. I'm looking forward to having the rest of the native apps (Wordpad, Paint, Calc, etc.) get some upgrading and have them use the ribbon.
Luckily all the most important apps in Vista were upgraded first: Freecell, Minesweeper, Hearts, etc.
@Shark
Without us "snarky" Mac users how dull (even duller?) would these comment listings be. The thing is I have worked designing/developing stuff for years with windows, it pays a good wage. However if there was anything to love about it I think I would have found it by now, if it floats your boat fine. However you do seem to suffer from a similar dilemma, if not more so considering how often you post.
Go on you love us being here :-)
"The Mac fanatic's dilemma:"
I though sharks were supposed to TAKE bait, not present it.
I think that's premature making too much (or too deep) considerations on this Windows 7 milestone from a few screenshots which are not of so certain origin.
I'll wait the PDC 2008. Then, we'll be able to make serious consideration. Let's say that I agree mostly with the requests Paul did on this site for the next release of Windows here:
http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/06/04/dear-win...
It still way to early to tell, but I would venture to guess that Microsoft knows where it going with the UI. For me I would just like to see users to be able to customize the UI. I feel that was a short coming in Vista, Microsoft locked most of the UI down. I just like to see choice. As far as the all text tool bar is concerned, I hope it has options I can't read I'm illiterate....
Now seeing several examples of this new UI and I really have to say that its a thing of beauty. Visually speaking, the UI look is elegant and refined. Even though the base is essentially Vista, its definitely a degree more refined than what we've seen in Vista. The translucent effects look a lot sharper than Vista SP1.
I think Microsoft has a greater sense of focus on Seven, which they didn't have with Vista. Too much was going on back then with XP and with the original Longhorn milestones, that the type of polish Microsoft was looking for wasn't possible. However, Vista got a lot accomplished in the way both Windows 95 and Windows 2000 setup the next version. This is becoming an almost predictable pattern with Windows.
While I reserve full judgement, so far it appears that Microsoft is on focus. I just hope this fleshes out completely. I like what I've seen by both the still shots and videos that Mike posted.
"However you do seem to suffer from a similar dilemma, if not more so considering how often you post."
It's a different kind of dilemma - to post or not to post. I don't bash apple's products and don't have the inclination to do so. I do go overboard in my defense of MS at times.
This is nice:
http://www.thinknext.net/archives/2275
"Lightweight WMP. Clicking a video file will not fire up the full Windows Media Player. Light WMP takes no time to startup, it’s not simply hiding the menus, toolbar and side panel of a full WMP."
Shark, you said, "I do go overboard in my defense of MS at times."..
but WHY?! An insult against MS (some are deserved, some ore not), is ***NOT*** an insult against you personally! And it's not an insult against Windows users...believe me, I criticize MS all the time, and I use Windows primarily, and make my living on it! I mean, come on!
What made me finally post here (and on a tirade no less) was that defenses of MS (not necessarily your defenses) were not so much defenses of MS, as much as attacks against Apple USERS...
Look at Mike Galos..."MS provides services where people live their lives while others provided services where they think people should live their lives"...I didn't quote it exactly right, but it certain was close enough to convey the point.
that is an obnoxious, smarmy, good for nothing post...it's things like that which made me erupt finally. There is no room for insulting a person's preference because of a difference of opinions.
Computers are computers.......the OS is software...some OSs provide a better experience than others...
I used Suse Linux for a while......god, I hated it. I thought MS had some annoying bugs...that OS drove me nuts!
I like the Mac....i have had numerous issues with it though....I have the iPod touch..I love the thing.........Love my XBOX 360 too but can barely find time to play it anymore...
Windows 7 looks good....I'd pass on that awful Ribbon though. I'll skip Vista too and just jump right to a 64 bit Windows 7.
@kellymjones - There was actually a discussion on the Windows Live Mail Desktop newsgroup about the all-text toolbar:
When asked about the new toolbar in WLMail, Stacia Scott [MSFT] said:
"One of the implementations of these goals was the removal of the icons in
the toolbars, and in our final release you'll see more changes that reflect
these goals. We've been testing these changes in our usability studies and
in general the feedback is that people like the cleaner look."
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http://preview.tinyurl.com/Windows-Live-Mail-Desktop
I managed to learn/remember what icon does what and after a while, I removed all the text from the toolbars in XP.
Ok, so as to the point about Windows Mail evolving into Windows Live Mail and not being included, I can completely understand that, so why is there no "Internet" link at the top of the Start Menu?
One would assume that IE8 is included since you need an initial web browser to download an alternate web browser, yes?
Is it installed by default, or do you have to do a post-Windows install of IE8?
MikeG - Thanks for the link. I still don't understand why that isn't just in the base OS though. Or take the calculator app out all together.
There is no reason why a $500 computer shouldn't be able to kill both a typewriter and a large adding machine out of the box.
panache, there's a reason that many of the attacks are directed against Mac fanatics. Here's one:
"Erp | 2008-09-21, Sunday , 5:44 pm
Buy a Mac… geesh."
It's one of the comments on thinknext.net
http://www.thinknext.net/archives/2273
And this is not as uncommon an occurrence as many might think it is.
Seriously, we're going to have to set up some wrestlemania bouts for some of the mad squabbles going on in here. Anyone got Vince McMahon's number?
