ZDNet blogger gets it horribly wrong (Updated)

In a post about Apple's new OS X release, Leopard, succumbing to a mind-numbing number of complaints (a topic about which, by the way, I have absolutely no opinion whatsoever; Leopard has worked just fine on my MacBook, thank you very much), ZDNet blogger Adrian Kingsley-Hughes tries to draw a perilous and, as it turns out, demonstrably false comparison between that system and Windows Vista:

A little more than a week since Apple released Leopard and that low hum of discontent has already been amplified to the point where it’s starting to hurt my ears ... I’m guessing that the root cause for these problems echoes Vista too - a rush to get the OS out of the door.

I'm sorry. But that is the most ignorant thing I've read in a long time. (Mostly because I don't read Mac fanatic blogs anymore.)  And as noted above, it's demonstrably false. Microsoft repeatedly delayed Vista in order to ensure that it was as good as possible. Repeatedly. And these delays were widely denounced in the press, and of course in the blogosphere. How anyone could claim that Vista was "rushed out the door" after five years of near-constant delays is beyond me. It's absolutely untrue.

That there have been lots of complaints about Vista, of course, is also obvious. But then most of the people complaining make a living complaining, so it's kind of hard to draw any conclusions about that, given that Vista is the most compatible and successful release in the history of Windows. I suspect most Leopard complaints are similar, though I honestly couldn't care less: Apple's user base tends to be more technical, so of course the blogosphere is alive with silly complaints. There are real problems with Leopard, yes, as I note in my review. But then Apple always rushes releases out too soon, as I also note in my review. Saying that Microsoft did the same thing with Vista shows an ignorance of both history and simple truth. And it suggests this guy knows as much about Windows as he does about the Mac, sorry.

UPDATE: In a coincidentally similar post, Steve Bink rips into a PC Magazine writer for the same kind of silliness: Claiming that Vista has no no changes to major core underpinnings of the OS" is as clueless as it comes. That's what Vista is: A complete re-architecture of the Windows OS with a new componentized design. Does anyone out there actually know what they're talking about anymore?

UPDATE 2: Kingsley-Hughes isn't very happy with me. Understandable. I did write that he was ignorant, which I feel weird about. But I'd like to address two issues he raises in an update to his original post:

The fact that a product takes five years to develop doesn’t mean that it can’t be rushed out of the door at the end of the cycle...

This is a wonderful theoretical statement. However, in the specific case of Windows Vista, to which I was quite close during the development process, there was no sense of rushing at all. Not ever. In fact, you know that's true because they shipped it to consumers in January 2007, not in October/November of the previous year, thus missing untold sales during the crucial holiday selling season. Why not just delay it until March, or whatever, if that's what was needed? Because that wasn't needed. Vista was not rushed to market. Obviously. Anyone on the beta can tell you that. (Conversely, those on the Leopard beta, to which I also had access, will tell a different story, not to get this conversation back to the topic of his actual post.)

I’m not sure what circles Thurrott revolves in, but in the circles in which I work, most of the people I’ve come across who are complaining about Vista are people trying to get some work done using it and not being able to because something gets in their way.

Not sure about "circles," but I wrote about the success of Windows Vista, at length, in May 2007 in Hot or Not? Measuring the Success of Vista's First 100 Days. As I noted above, Vista is the most compatible and successful version of Windows Microsoft has ever released:

And what about those high profile problems that the bloggers are grousing about? According to Wascha, those issues have never even shown up in Vista's instrumentation. That's right: These bloggers actually opted out of the program that Microsoft set up so that customers can help Microsoft solve problems and thus help other customers. And when the drivers do become available, you never see follow-up posts crediting Microsoft for fixing the problems. "We sit here and wrack our brains," Wascha said. "The drivers are out there."Meanwhile, there are other pesky facts, which just don't correlate with widespread opinion pieces on the Web...

And so on. As any customer service rep will tell you, complaints outweigh positive feedback by a wide margin. That doesn't mean there are huge problems. That's true of Vista, and it could very well be true of Leopard, data loss stories notwithstanding. I honestly don't know, in Leopard's case. But I do know in Vista's. Thus my post here. 

Discuss this Article 10

weedmonk
on Nov 6, 2007
Well said. The dev cycle for Longhorn had many well publicized delays. My questions is why worry about being compared to the liliputs i.e the macbois. Their irrelevance is only amplified by their presence on this blog and 100's of others so they protect the dear corporation and virginity of steve jobs. Foregeddaboudem Paul...
Waethorn
on Nov 6, 2007
Kingsley-Huges is "FJW" - Fake Joe Wilcox from eWeek. ;)
daveinla
on Nov 6, 2007
I think that in OS development, whatever time you take to develop a major new update, they will always be bugs left there as long as the mass market has not tested the variety ofcombination possble with hardware/software/peripherals. And Vista and OSX can't escape that even though OSX has it a little easier thanks to a more controlled architecture. Weedmonk, evolve a little bit a learn to accept the mac users as peers in the computer world. macbois as you call them is a growing population of computer user and they won't kill your dear windows anytime soon. Get mature man they are not gonna launch an assault on you windows users and rip you computer appart !!!! so childish I can't believe it !! And anybody on the net is allowed to read whatever publication it want to in order to get smarter. You should read as well Mac blog even if you hate them, at least you would be more knowledgeable to what you despise and it would make you a little smarter...
Sir_timbit01
on Nov 6, 2007
Ah Geez, for every Mac fanboi out there, there's a Microsoft sycophant waiting to reply. This sure gets old. Does Leopard have bugs? Yep. Will there be patches? Of course. Does Vista have bugs? Certainly! Will there be patches? Already are, and we know more will be on the way. Did both companies (esp. Microsoft here) kill features that we saw during the beta process? Oh yeah! (Why? to meet deadlines, to rush it out the door, to keep shareholders happy.) This is not news, nor is it newsworthy. But I do take issue with Vista being the most compatible version of Windows Microsoft has ever released. I work in IT for a school board, and I've got to say our frustrations over software incompatibilities, Vista deployment grief, and even licensing confusion vis a vis XP have led us to be very cautious about rolling out Vista. (I'm not a Mac fanboi either. The last Mac I had was in 1994, and I switched when I was playing with the beta of Win95. So I'll admit I don't much about Leopard. I guess you can say I'm quite content with XP.) Paul, you've said here before on several occasions that Microsoft's biggest competitor is Microsoft. XP works just fine for most people, thanks. Educational software is a prime example of software that causes grief in Vista. They're notorious for being several years old. We're talking about junk released for Win98, or worse. Is that Microsoft's fault? Of course not. But they will run in XP, and a number of those titles won't work in Vista. Which one is more compatible? There's a reason why businesses take their time and wait until a new service pack is released before deploying a new Microsoft OS. It's because they get burned--there's not much to be gained by being the first to roll out a new Microsoft OS. I recall reading how even Intel was holding off on its Vista deployment, sticking with XP. And we've all read stories about Vista selling well, but how many of those are from OEMs who then offer downgrades to XP? How many businesses are actually making use of Vista right now, as opposed to wiping the box and installing XP? My own experience with Vista? Despite the most recent Vista patches, network copying in Vista is still atrocious. It's slow. When I flip back to XP, it just purrs. What else? My ATI All-in-Wonder card's TV/PVR features will never work in Vista, even though the card's just over two years old. And just like Apple, they changed things in the GUI just for the sake of change. How many mouse clicks does it take to get your IP address properties in XP? How many in Vista? How is that more efficient? Well, at least they've got that new Mahjongg game. And games! Evidently Blizzard had to release a whole pile of patches just to make WOW playable in Vista. If there is one thing I've read in the Leopard reviews out there, it's that performance of the OS is just as good as in Tiger. I can't say that about Vista. It just feels sluggish compared to XP. And that was after I bumped my PC up to 2gb. Gotta keep those hardware upgrades rolling! Anyway, Vista will improve, as will Leopard. Having been out for a year now, it's got a good head start on Apple to tackle these issues. Software developers will get their new releases out and newer, faster PCs will make up for the Vista performance hit. I'll be running Vista on its own one day, but only after I retire my current box.
cesjr
on Nov 6, 2007
Paul can pretend all he wants that Vista is fine and the detractors are full of it - the reality is lots of people are complaining about and experiencing compatibility and performance issues. Paul can't wish these continuing problems away no matter how hard he tries. Presumably MS will start to get on top of these issues, but they haven't yet (although performance will probably always be sluggish on older machines )
Spidubic
on Nov 6, 2007
Guess I am in a minority here but I have been running Vista since January gaming my little heart out with no problems. WoW, EQ2, TDU, at least a dozen other games, all running fine. Dual Core, Quad Core, Nvidia 7950GX2, 8800GTX, multiple driver versions. No issues. So far Vista to me is far superior to XP. My only issue was an HP printer that they decided not to make drivers for.
joe-dokes
on Nov 6, 2007
Gee Paul did you forget that Vista was released to its corporate customers prior to Christmas? Oh, those customers don't count. Facts, Paul, Facts. As far as Vista being released too early. After years, of cramming everything in the OS and attempting to prove to the Courts that Windows was a completely integrated product, is it any wonder that it took years to re-compartmentalize windows in the same way that all modern OSs are made. Finally, Paul lambasts other for writing that Vista is merely XP with flashy graphics. He correctly points out that there are significant changes under the hood. What he doesn't bother to point out is that many significant and potentially groundbreaking features were stripped out of Vista prior to it shipping. No doubt some of these will make an appearance in future versions of Windows, but it shows the typical Microsoft play book, promise the world and then deliver a mediocre product. Finally, on many a post Paul brags about how close he is to the Windows developemnt team. On the one hand being close gives him some unique access to what might be inside information. On the other, perhaps Paul is just too close to Microsoft to be objective. For example, Paul blasts Walt Mossberg from the Wall Street Journal for being too close to Apple. Yet, Paul himself is even closer to MS. Pot meet Kettle anyone? Regards Joe Dokes
DRWAM
on Nov 6, 2007
I have never used Vista and can tell you that Leopard runs flawlessly on my Mac Pro Tower as well as an 8 yr old [almost 8.5 yrs] G4 that has an upgraded CPU that I bought 3 or 4 yrs ago. That being said, my IT guys like Vista, and think that it was worth the money. I got Leopard upgrade from my friend who is really tech stupid so he did not want the free upgrade to Leopard as 10.4 [Tiger] was fine, and he got confused when he saw the demo of Leopard at the Apple store. Go figure, and What a dope! Anyway, I am not yet convinced that I would have made the purchase for such a seemingly incremental upgrade to the average user. There may be plenty under the hood, but to any average user like me and my friends, it does not seem like fireworks. Leopard does work flawlessly on both machines. [Upgrade without archive installations]
Waethorn
on Nov 8, 2007
"After years, of cramming everything in the OS and attempting to prove to the Courts that Windows was a completely integrated product, is it any wonder that it took years to re-compartmentalize windows in the same way that all modern OSs are made." actually, that was done already - in Windows XP Embedded. what was *newly* compartmentalized is actually the Windows Vista kernel. if you look at the writeups for "MinWin", you'd know that. "I am not yet convinced that I would have made the purchase for such a seemingly incremental upgrade to the average user." What about when support ends for Tiger? Apple's support lifecycle is only about half of what Microsoft's is, and that's the main recent why Apple is blasted for "forced upgrades".
Waethorn
on Nov 8, 2007
um...."recent" = "reason"

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