Office Garage: A Tale of Two Package Types

MSI vs. Click-to-Run: It's no contest

In the latest episode of Microsoft’s Office Garage video series, Yoni Kirsh and Jeremy Chapman explain the differences between Windows Installer Package (MSI) and Click-to-Run package types, how to download Click-to-Run builds for use with software distribution tools, and when its necessary to provision user accounts in Office 365. Oh, and there’s skydiving.

This episode is great because it addresses what is probably the biggest misunderstanding that IT pros have about the new Click-to-Run install type that is used by Office 2013 (and Office 365 ProPlus, an Office 365 offering). Many who hear about “streaming installs over the Internet” and “based on App-V [application virtualization] technologies” assume that the resulting installs aren’t really fully functional, or aren’t true locally-installed applications. But that’s not the case.

(MSI installs of Office 2013 are only available if you have a volume license agreement for Office Professional Plus 2013 or Office Standard 2013. So even the retail packaged versions of Office 2013 use Click-to-Run.)

“I think the similarities between the two installation types will surprise people,” Chapman explains. “And after Office is installed they are both virtually indistinguishable to a normal user.” “The things we tend to care about on the IT pro side—automated deployment capabilities, imaging support, Group Policy configuration management, application and file compatibility, etc.—are roughly the same with both package types,” Kirsh adds.

Here’s a great graphic showing how MSI and Click-to-Run compare:

Some other great points here:

Offline use. Click-to-run still results in a local install of Office. It’s not “cached” or “streaming” or whatever. It’s on the disk. (It streams during install, which means you can use it before it’s fully installed. That’s a benefit, not a problem.) “The only thing we really need a periodic Internet connection for is to see whether my IT department has deprovisioned my account and I can stay offline for 30 days at a time if I need to,” Chapman says.

Bandwidth required for the install. The 32-bit Office 2013 Click-to-Run package is 994 MB, compared to 710 MB for the MSI version. Office 365 ProPlus is about 700 MB. “The main takeaway here is that the network bandwidth consumption of an initial Click-to-Run install is about the same as a network install of the traditional MSI package,” Kirsh says. “Roughly the same goes for your updates. And if you are totally network-constrained, like 56k dial up modem slow, you can install Click-to-Run from USB or DVD media just like the MSI.”

New installs don’t get bigger/slower over time. If you’re familiar with how Office updates could be packaged with the initial Office installer in the past, you know that the update would be tacked on to the end of the install, and as time went by the Office Setup would run slower and slower, and the total package size would grow constantly. With Click-to-Run each build is cumulative and contains all the updated binaries to date, so the overall package size doesn't really change. That means that the Office 2013 install will always take about 4 to 5 minutes before users can start running the applications, regardless of how many updates are added.

There’s a lot more. Check out the original blog post, The new Office Garage Series: Who Moved My MSI?, and the video for the full story.

Discuss this Article 5

posttoast
on Mar 8, 2013

What I really dislike is the fact that I am now unable to choose which applications I want to install. I don't use Access, Outlook, OneNote and Publisher and I would really like to save some space on my SSD. The only way for me to do this would be to get a volume license. Seems silly to me.

pthurrott
on Mar 8, 2013

Yep. This will be fixed in a coming rev to Click-to-Run. MS is aware this is a concern.

andrewtechhelp
on Mar 8, 2013

Click To Run deployment of Office 2013 is really good, although the updating process concerns me a bit. Why can't Microsoft have a SINGLE method for updating software they create?

Office 2010 and Office 2013 MSI installs update through Windows Update, which works great. The Windows patches and Office patches come in together and get automatically installed a couple of days after they're released at max (normally installed same day).

Office 2013 using Click To Run though uses it's own update system. It pops up a bubble in the Notification area saying there's updates available and you have to confirm to install the updates.

I wanted to see if the updates would install though. So on the first PC I clicked on the notification bubble and confirmed the installation and installed them, but on the second PC I ignored the bubble and kept using that PC normally and even after 2 weeks, the automatic updates didn't install.

So yea, that's concerning. Office 2010 is great because updates get installed automatically in the background. Mum ignores all the update bubbles and stuff on her PCs because they're just something that gets in the way for her. So potentially, she could continue to use unpatched versions of Office 2013 because the Click To Run updating system is different.

Microsoft: UPDATE ALL YOUR SOFTWARE THROUGH WINDOWS UPDATE, PLEASE. Having Windows, Office, Skype, Metro Apps all updating in different places using different methods is silly.

WebGeorge
on Mar 18, 2013

Hi Paul,

You mention above that Microsoft is going to address the inability to do a partial/custom install in an upcoming rev of Click-to-Run... is that official and is there a timeframe?
I've been posting about this on the Office365 forum... I don't have an issue with Click-to-run, seems to work great... but I want to install only some apps on my Win8 tablet with limited storage.... I don't really plan to use InfoPath, Access or Publisher on there and would rather minimise the footprint. Seems very short sighted of Microsoft if they want to make inroads in the tablet market....
What's the point of being able to install on up to 5 devices if you can't fit it on!

WebGeorge
on Mar 18, 2013

I'm keen to find out more about the comment "This will be fixed in a coming rev to Click-to-Run. MS is aware this is a concern". Is it official or rumour and any idea when?

I have just registered for Office365 Small Business Premium and have a Win8 Tablet on order (which I'd like to have as one of my 5 devices)... and like most tablets storage is at a premium. I definitely don't want to install Publisher / Access / InfoPath / etc. but see no alternative. I've been posting on the Office 365 forum but so far have only managed to confirm it's an annoying reality.

If it's a while off - is there any reason we can't manually delete some of the unwanted files? (other than having no idea how to navigate the "MS Office 15" application files).

If Microsoft wants to be taken seriously in the tablet space and subscriptions for Office.... then they need to think about these things. Treating the tablet market like it has the capacity of a desktop is short-sighted....

Thanks Paul !

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