Microsoft Launches Outlook.com … Without Updating Calendar??

I love Outlook.com, but this service is not ready for primetime

Microsoft announced today that its Outlook.com web-based email service is no longer in preview, whatever that means. The thing is, the calendar component of this service—which also includes contacts management, SkyDrive, and the Outlook Web Apps—still looks like a 2005-era Windows Live experience. And it’s unclear how Microsoft could try to take on Gmail and Google Calendar with something that looks this dated.

To be clear, I use, recommend, and prefer Outlook.com. But the calendar component, shown below, is a sad joke, something that looks and works nothing like the rest of the Outlook.com experience. I’ve asked Microsoft for an update on Outlook.com Calendar repeatedly since the service debuted in preview form last summer. “No comment.”

On the good news front, Microsoft claims that it has over 60 million people actively using Outlook.com, though it’s not clear how many of those are new customers and how many are existing Hotmail users.

Any Hotmail user can use the Outlook.com experience now, and over time all Hotmail users will be moved to the new experience. No, you won’t have to change your email address. As Steve Weiss writes in the Official Microsoft Blog, “Starting today, Microsoft will begin to upgrade every Hotmail user to Outlook.com, so they can benefit from new features like smart integration with their social networks and easy sharing of hundreds of photos and videos within a single message. The upgrade is seamless and instant for Hotmail customers; their @hotmail.com email address, password, contacts, etc., will stay the same.”

“Today is a major milestone in our mission to provide people everywhere with the world's best email experience,” Microsoft’s David Law writes in a post to the confusingly named Outlook Blog. (Outlook.com has nothing to do with Outlook, the rich/thick Windows application.) “You'll also see us kick off a large-scale marketing effort around the world to show that Outlook.com can get you going.  And because we're confident that Outlook.com is the best email service available for consumers and ready to scale to a billion people, we'll soon start to upgrade hundreds of millions of Hotmail users to the new Outlook.com experience.”

According to Law, Microsoft has updated Outlook.com in a number of ways since the preview began six months ago, adding features and changes that were requested by users. (The biggest and most-frequently requested change, updating Calendar, is not even mentioned in this post, however.) No specific improvements are noted, however.

Microsoft does note that “Outlook.com customers have praised the inbox experience, with deeper social integration, 60% fewer ads and one-of-a-kind tools for managing newsletters, which make up as much as 80% of the typical inbox. Outlook.com customers are also enjoying the SkyDrive integration, with more than half a billion photos and Office documents shared by Outlook.com customers via SkyDrive.”

One final complaint about Outlook.com: How about a way to turn off or otherwise control Web Messenger? Between this huge issue and Calendar, I have no idea how Microsoft could possibly “launch” this thing now. It just isn’t ready, sorry.

Discuss this Article 33

TrackZ
on Feb 19, 2013

They really need the ability to rename accounts too. I have a long time Xbox live account as part of my MS account and I want to move off gmail. My MS account though has an ID that is my gmail account. The ability to rename it to an outlook.com address has been disabled for months.

worleyeoe
on Feb 19, 2013

Most likely, this is the result of their beginning the final migration from Hotmail to outlook.com. I am one of those who went out and created an outlook.com account with the same pre-fix as my live.com address. Like yourself, I would love to have had the chance to rename my account, but MS requires your account to stay disabled for nine months / 270 days.

zorb58
on Feb 19, 2013

Calendar is grossly neglected across all of Microsoft's platforms. The feature sets on the Windows 8 app, Outlook.com (Windows Live still?) app, and Windows Phone app are, at best, implemented differently so that the user needs to take time to re-find things that should be straight forward, or at worst, missing entirely... To do list anyone?

efjay
on Feb 19, 2013

Seems to be Microsoft's MO at the moment, release unfinished products with lots of fanfare and cheery announcements and hope people dont look too closely under the covers and find the flaws. Sounds all too familiar to this WP7>WP8 and Windows 8 user.

tbsteph
on Feb 19, 2013

Are we seeing a distinct pattern here: "It just isn't ready." That statement seems to describe many recent Microsoft software updates., i.e. Xbox music. Is there any hope someone in Redmond can redirect this obvious trend?

thundr35
on Feb 19, 2013

Not sure which is worse, the fact that they left it in it's current state, or the fact that they are calling it "Done". But, I have to wonder if anyone would notice if they removed it. Would that have been a better option?

Tom Garven
on Feb 19, 2013

Hi Paul:

Here is my take on the subject.

I have been using Microsoft products for over 40 years, both in the corporate and home environments. For the most part the experience has been very good. BUT, both Hotmail and Outlook have the same problem and that problem is that they appear to be nothing more than automated systems. Meaning they don't appear to have anyone working on things like:

1. Monitoring junk mail
2. Validating or verifying valid advertising, and;
3. Preventing obvious scams.

To date I have about 100 domains and probably a couple of hundred individuals blocked and I STILL get at least 5 junk mails every day and not just the usual annoying stuff. I am talking about those emails that ask for your personal information like your name, address, home phone, age, bank account, email password, - you know the type. Or obvious stuff like ads for male enhancement or Canadian drug companies, photo editing services and frequently someones estate in India that wants to give me $10 million. These types of emails appear almost every day in my Outlook inbox. These types of emails almost NEVER appear in my Thunderbird or Gmail inbox's.

Unfortunately I must give Hotmail and now Outlook a D - for effort. When I switched from Hotmail to Outlook it only took about 4 or 5 days before the junk mail resumed on Outlook. And as far as "Sweep" is concerned; it is certainly useful for blocking individual junk mails and some advertisers. It would ALMOST be a good idea if it went one step further and examined the emails content for common attributes from other blocked domains. I get exactly the same email after blocking it from a domain with only a slightly different domain name the very next day. Both Hotmail and now Outlook appear to be nothing more that un-monitored mass marketing and advertising sites with pushed mail no one bothers to monitor. It is so bad I even get junk email with Microsoft logo's !

In summary:

At the moment I can not use Outlook as my primary email client. Oh and before I forget - don't even get me started on Skype. At the moment I can't even import my Thunderbird and Gmail contacts so what's the point.

ian.aldrighetti
on Feb 19, 2013

That's really interesting... About 5+ years ago, I would agree with you, but Hotmail's (and therefore Outlook.com's) junk filter has vastly improved over the years.

I remember when most of my Inbox would be junk and other various phishing scams, but now I only get a junk message in my Inbox about once a month at the very most. I get about 20 junk messages a day, I know this because I empty it almost every day.

This Outlook address I am using now was converted from a Hotmail account created 6 years ago, so it's been spread around the Internet a lot. So I wonder why you're having such issues with junk.

hans.shinton
on Feb 19, 2013

Agree with calendar, but Web messenger? click on your name in the top right?

GoodThings2Life
on Feb 19, 2013

It is a terrible experience to use with the back/forth "can't see everything at once" mentality.

kayzee
on Feb 20, 2013

Can you turn it off though?

bradwestness
on Feb 19, 2013

I converted to outlook.com from GMail a couple months ago, mostly due to being fed up with Google's constant need to shove everyone into Google+ and all their other services.

I've been really pleased so far and I don't miss GMail at all. But yeah, the calendar is pretty awful. It looks like 2002 puked all over your screen, especially jarring given how modern and clean the Outlook, People and SkyDrive experiences are.

The calendar app in Windows 8 is pretty useless too... maybe an update to that will mean an update to the web experience as well? I suppose that's all coming in sixtoeightweeks.com.

pmbAustin
on Feb 19, 2013

Keep banging on 'em, Paul... the calendar experience (on the web at outlook.com, via Windows 8, and via WP8) is one of the more embarassingly sub-par experiences Microsoft is currently offering. I'm sure it affects even more people than the mess that is XBox Music.

They're so CLOSE to having a great ecosystem. They just need to fix it up, tidy it up, and make it all "just work".

ericesque
on Feb 19, 2013

Pathetic.

In related news, in an interview on CBS This Morning Bill Gates admits that he and Ballmer are frustrated with themselves and Microsoft for not doing everything possible to be market leaders. Hmmm...

ian.aldrighetti
on Feb 19, 2013

Not that this is a good excuse either way, but I doubt online calendars are that lucrative of a market anyways.

Morris
on Feb 19, 2013

"Ecosystem" is everyone's favorite word but no one seems to discuss the importance of default apps. Default apps are what we use most often and their quality is of the most importance. Making a calendar app an afterthought is surprising. Microsoft seems to make default apps as an afterthought and gives bare bones functionality and UI. I particularly think the calendar app on Windows Phone lousy as well (example: the month calendar view on Windows Phone is ugly, doesn't use the screen real estate well, and is basically useless).

Andygoes
on Feb 19, 2013

With respect to the calendar, it at least looks similar enough to Gmail's calendar that they could pawn it off as competitive. However, I completely agree with your assessment.

Now, if only the calendar didn't crash every time I open it in IE10 on Win8 and navigate to different tabs and back. Anyone else seen this issue?

MarkH
on Feb 19, 2013

Cool. Another half-finished half-assed effort by Microsoft. I'm sure they'll get it all updated and fixed...aaaand Windows Phone users will never see those updates. By then it will be Windows 10 and everyone will be saying "I can't believe they left that looking SO 2013...get with the program!"

Can anyone say death spiral?

bradwestness
on Feb 19, 2013

Don't worry, Blue is going to Fix All the Problems™

Philotech
on Feb 19, 2013

I agree the calendar isn't beautiful. But although I'm a hard core GMail user and lover, please show me where GMail calendar is any better? It's barely integrated into GMail, it looks dated, too, there's nothing special about it. It just gets the calendaring job done, but so does Outlook (or does it? I haven't actually used it but only played around for a while)

B52
on Feb 19, 2013

I'm wondering where the tipping point is, when it will be time to abandon the Microsoft ship. I've been a Microsoft fan boy for 27 years, since Word 1.0, but the disappointments mount. I've been a Windows Phone user since the first Samsung Focus, but I'm tired of feeling uncomfortable recommending WP to my friends and co-workers. I'm an IT executive. People turn to me for recommendations! It's very frustrating to make excuses for WP, for Outlook.com, for Windows 8. I looked forward to the Surface, both of them, but can't see buying them. I'm holding my nose and looking at an iPad Mini. I need a new PC for my household, and actually said the words "Maybe we should think about an iMac" to my wife. She replied, "You'll eat crow for years you know."

It's not just the calendar. Outlook.com has repeatedly lost parts of long emails on me. I've written long, involved emails on a number of occasions only to discover that Outlook.com lost half or more of the email during transmission! (My wife called me to ask "I don't understand. Did you stop at _____?") I look in the sent mail and see that Outlook truncated the email. Then I check with a friend who also got the email through their Gmail account, and they got the whole thing? What's that about?

Messenger on the web is an intrusive disaster. You can't turn it off or delete conversations? That's absurd. You can't use the Messenger or Skype client because if you keep Outlook open in a browser you end up with notifications from two systems.

Microsoft has become the Gang That Can't Shoot Straight again.

So, Paul, where's the tipping point? I have NO love at all for Apple, but...

Rishicash
on Feb 19, 2013

I've had the feeling for a few months now that Paul has been thinking the same thoughts. You can hear the growing frustration and exasperation in his voice and who can blame him? I'm giving MS the rest of this year and if they don't get it together by then, then I'll finally break ranks. You can only give stupid so much patience.

worleyeoe
on Feb 19, 2013

For about two months, I had to keep an anchor message in my inbox. If not, I would try to compose an e-mail and the text editing bar would never full show up and then I could not navigate around within the e-mail functions. Fortunately, that appears to have been fixed. Personally, I think a lot of these problems are associated with the fact that MS is managing three different domains / systems: Hotmail, live and Outlook.

Mekon
on Feb 19, 2013

Totally agree about the calendar, but it sounds like it will be updated in a matter of days:

"A calendar UI upgrade and Skype integration with video calling and messaging "will be coming soon after the 19th" promises Mehta, "

- The Verge

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/19/4000840/outlook-out-of-preview-multimi...

oroslak
on Feb 19, 2013

Love the photo that follows the headline. Summarizes the content perfectly.

Rambaldi
on Feb 19, 2013

Completely agree with you, it's absolutely pathetic. And what about the to-do list which does not even sync with Outlook on the desktop and does not feature categories ? Completely useless !

GoodThings2Life
on Feb 19, 2013

Love Outlook.com... with some minor gripes like IM... but yeah, the Calendar situation SUCKS top to bottom. It's embarrassing that 6 months later there's no mention of it, let alone something to preview.

neonspark
on Feb 19, 2013

well, I'm glad windows phone isn't the only Microsoft client with a really outdated calendar. at least the web version lets you see weeks, you know, that 7 day concept which windows phone has not understood in 3 years...

ZipZapRap
on Feb 19, 2013

100% agree with this. I’m hugely invested in the Microsoft group of products, and have been for years. I evangelised everything and done my best to get more people onto their platforms, glossing over the obvious gaps because I believed, wrongly, that no company would want a shipped product to stay horribly broken for long.

But I’m reaching the tipping point, as you call it. I’m so tired of having to put up with these sub-standard experiences. There is so much potential, and I love the direction the company is taking, with the modern user interface. But god, they are absolutely awful at fixing mistakes, and filling in the gaps. My patience is wearing thing, and Microsoft had better start getting on top of these problems ASAP, or I will switch.

zinc666
on Feb 20, 2013

To echo a few sentiments;

- Rubbish calendar UI
- No Outlook task integration
- Can't rename Microsoft Account
- Can't get rid of 'on behalf of" on sent emails (no SMTP relaying on custom email address)

The last one's a biggie. If Microsoft introduced that feature then I'm sure loads more Gmail users will make the jump.

I wonder what is going on at Microsoft these days!

JimmyFal
on Feb 20, 2013

I am honestly more interested in the back story of why Calendar has taken so long and is still not ready on launch day. I would really love to know what is going on there, it would go a long way to helping me figure out a lot about Microsoft. Things that we see as being so simple to do, are maybe technically a lot harder than it looks. But a calendar? Seems inexplicable, so what gives.

cmwilkerson
on Feb 20, 2013

No serious user will utilize Outlook.com for serious work when Google Calendar is so much better.

Mike84
on Feb 20, 2013

the old bury your head in the sand trick.

hilarious.

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