20,000

There are now 20,000 apps for Windows 8 and RT. Sort of

The Windows Store sailed past the 20,000 app mark the other day, according to a Microsoft watcher. Bloggers are trying to spin this news to match their Microsoft biases, but I don’t think this milestone changes much: The Windows Store continues to grow quickly, but it still lacks even a single killer app. So, good news and bad news.

The Windows Store provides Metro-style apps that run on Windows 8 and RT.

News of the 20,000 figure came via a tweet by Wes Miller. He runs the Win App Update web site, which ironically hasn’t been updated in over a month.

Miller says that 87 percent of Windows Store apps are free. The problem, as with all app stores, is that about 97 percent of them are worthless.

PC World reports that the 20,000 app figure is worldwide and that individual markets will see far fewer apps. The US has 12,675 apps, for example, compared to 14,000 for Canada. It’s not clear where they found those numbers. But since I’m blogging here, I am required by law to mention that Apple has over 700,000 apps in its own app store, with 300,000 for the iPad. And Google Play has over 600,000 apps. Remember: No success cannot be countered effectively with information about a far more established alternative.

But wait. What about the Mac App Store? Go figure, but Windows Store has already surpassed the one online store Apple never talks about: The Mac App Store has only 12,638 apps, according to App Shopper. And that’s been around since the beginning of 2011, almost two long years ago. Yikes!

Anyway, back to my original premise: App take-up good, lack of quality apps bad. I’m hesitant to even look at the top 10 or 20 iPad or Android apps because I know that comparison would be a bloodbath. It took Windows Phone two years to even make that comparison a conversation. How long will it take Windows Store?

Discuss this Article 25

Arodimus
on Nov 23, 2012

I believe that we are defining window 8/RT apps the wrong way... We should be including "Metro" apps with the windows phone apps meaning that Microsoft has 140,000 apps for it's mobile plateform with 20,000 being for RT as the same as we break down ios app count to 700,000 with only 300,000 ipad apps (after 4 yrs breaking down to 75k a yr for the ipad, less than 6300 a month) whereas the "Metro apps are at 10,000 month

ian.aldrighetti
on Nov 23, 2012

I don't have an iPhone or iPad, but can't you run even apps designed for the iPhone on the iPad?

I know, though, that you cannot run an RT app on a Windows Phone or the other way around, however. So if I am understanding you're point correctly, it seems rather flawed to me.

chilero
on Nov 23, 2012

What has been pleasantly surprising for me is that I have found Canadian news and TV apps. CTV, CBC, Globe & Mail.

This morning I saw a TV ad on my local news (national channel) for their Windows 8 app (Global TV). Unfortunately it isn't available for RT.

I'm waiting for an app from my local paper and would love a Shaw Go app (the western Canadian HBO Go).

abw1987
on Nov 23, 2012

The thing about Windows 8 is that most apps are, in my opinion, rendered unnecessary by web browsers. Why use a Facebook app when you can access the full Facebook experience using Metro IE, desktop IE, or any other browser?

Unfortunately, many will use the app store situation as a red herring until the Windows Store starts landing some of the more "must-have" apps.

Waethorn
on Nov 23, 2012

Anybody could say the same thing about educational apps (ie. video training) on iOS. How many of those are there?

Also, does Apple count training lessons in iTunes U as individual apps? How about iBooks? Those would account for a lot.

sevenacids
on Nov 23, 2012

You make an interesting point here, but it's not only Facebook. Most of the "popular" apps like Twitter, Wikipedia etc. are not really necessary either.

The problem with the whole app model/stores is that they are all incompatible implementations. For example, an app for the Apple app store doesn't work on Windows, and vice versa. A web-site, on the other hand, will work just fine whether you run iOS, Android, or Windows, provided that the browser supports all of the required features.

rich4a1
on Nov 26, 2012

I have Wikipedia app installed on my Surface RT, but I still mostly read Wikipedia content from metro IE10....

ian.aldrighetti
on Nov 23, 2012

That is in part true, but I think many (including me) would disagree. There is a benefit to having an actual app made for the platform: integration.

Without having, say, a Facebook app, you won't get things such as notifications, live tiles, contracts (being able to share from an app to Facebook) and so on. I know you can pin a website to your Start screen, but it's just not the same.

Plus there is offline capabilities. Maybe not with Facebook, but Wikipedia could add such abilities to download and save an article for later reading even without an Internet connection.

blakjedi
on Nov 26, 2012

wp integrates facebook and twitter with no app... are sure you understand how wthe windows phone OS works? Win 8 doesnt need an app for those integrations either. When you log on, you also add in the login information for those online applications - no app required. Thus not having a twitter or facebook is immaterial...

mmaestro
on Nov 24, 2012

Because the Facebook web experience on a tablet is garbage. Yes, it's great on a laptop or desktop. But it works poorly at best if you're using a tablet. And with Metro, that tablet experience is extremely important.

sevenacids
on Nov 23, 2012

I never understood the importance of the plain number of apps in an app store, because it always feels like that quantity is more important than quality.

What the heck do we need 20,000 apps for if most of them are worthless? Personally, I'd prefer to have far less apps in the store but each of them required to meet a certain quality or value. 700,000 apps in the Apple app store... right! But how many of them do we actually need?

pyjamarama
on Nov 23, 2012

Maybe you should look because I just did and it didn't look bad, I'm not going to post the list because is country specific but on Windows 8 top 20 free apps there where apps for local papers and TV stations, Skype, Google, and some games. On the Ipad the list of top 20 free apps were almost all games, none of them looked particularly appealing, there was Skype, Nokia maps, and a file manager app, not needed on Windows 8, and some kind of office app also not needed on Windows 8. Now this is a very unreliable comparison because a more cumulative time frame would probably bring to the front the actual good games and apps that the IPad has, but have to say that the local Microsoft branch did a good job of convincing top company's and local news to develop an app.

textomatic
on Nov 23, 2012

Who needs apps when you have IE 10? IE 10 works great for accessing all your favorite websites. But I'm just an average guy who doesn't use a gazillion apps, anyway.

smoledman
on Nov 23, 2012

By spring 2013, most of the top 100 iPad apps will be in the WIndows store.

SamR
on Nov 23, 2012

I too do not get the point of most Apps on tablets, maybe they make sense on Smart Phones due to the small size of the screen. I like to do everything in the browser if possible.

On the desktop it is even more pronounced. I have a large 16:10 monitor which is much higher resolution than the Metro Apps are. Why would I want to go down in resolution with cartoon style apps?

I recently converted all my desktops to Windows 8 very cheaply due a bunch of special deals that are available from Microsoft. I was surprised by the speed of the install and the small amounts of additional programs I installed as well. The OS does most of what I need natively. I only loaded Office, Firefox without Flash, CDBurnXP, Irfanview and maybe a few others.

Maelstrom
on Nov 23, 2012

Paul, it's easy to find how many apps are available in a specific market, well, at least in your very own marketplace (pun intended).
In order to get that information, just do a seach while in the Microsoft Store app using the good old asterisk as the search criterion. That's how one may notice that there are 10,607 apps, both in French and English, (yes, your language preferences do seem to have an influence) available in France as I write this.

rockycpa
on Nov 24, 2012

Now there was a good tip. There are now 11,476 US.

Sothryn
on Nov 26, 2012

2 days later: Morning of 26 Nov. 2012
14,007 apps for the US market.

zorb58
on Nov 24, 2012

I'm starting to believe that Windows and Windows Phone get no attention because the developers of these "blockbuster" apps are the same as the Apple fanboy bloggers. Take instagram for instance... I can almost guarantee their developers dare not touch Windows because, among other reasons, their app is "trendy" and "creative." Don't you know that "trendy" and "creative" things only run on Apple devices (and Android just because everyone has one). There is absolutely no reason for instagram to NOT be available on Windows Phone.

Sepp
on Nov 24, 2012

Why do we forget the most important Apps /???
does Mac or Android include for free the Office Apps?
this is already enough reason for me to buy Surface and not IPad or Android ... don't you agree KILLER APPS !!!!!!

OOps I forgot that windows Phone had those all the time ... that's why I have been using a windows phone for at least 7 years ...

lorinkundert
on Nov 26, 2012

For android, Polaris Office 4, opens up every MS office document I throw at it flawlessly.

Rallicat
on Nov 24, 2012

It depends on your definition of 'killer app' .. some would say the presence of Skype, eBay, kindle, Netflix and a healthy selection of games shows things are off to a good start in the 'quality' department.

rockycpa
on Nov 24, 2012

I have upgraded 4 computers to Win 8 now. I am also using it for my personal use. I can tell you that I don't even see the purpose of apps on a desktop. I can get a real program that does so much more than an app on a non-RT win 8 machine. I am waiting to see what the Surface Pro is like before I buy into that. The whole reason I don't use an IPAD, ( I have bought several and given them to others), is that you can't really do much on an "app".
I can't think of a single app that I am missing and I can also run Photoshop, Lightroom and QuickBooks. The old XP that I upgraded today took 11 minutes to boot and open Outlook before the upgrade. After the upgrade it took 60 seconds and that's the slowest one I have upgraded. Apps are meaningless if the website has a good mobile web site since there must be millions of programs that run on WIN 8. So I say look at all the positives. The negatives are minor.
I have 7 more computers to upgrade. WIN 8 is going to save us thousand of dollars and we'll have faster machines.

neonspark
on Nov 25, 2012

I will give up EVERY killer app on the ipad/android for x86 compatibility. how about that?

A-tom
on Nov 25, 2012

"[But wait. What about the Mac App Store? Go figure, but Windows Store has already surpassed the one online store Apple never talks about"

You compare the number of apps of a store with desktop apps (Mac App store) with a store with 'all but mostly not real desktop'-apps. That's a 'apple-to-oranges'-comparison. Can you buy rich apps like e.g. Photoshop Elements, Lightroom, etc. In the Windows store? How many apps in the Windows store are x86 only that require full desktop power and aren't light weight RT-apps?

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