Blue

Blue sounds great, but we need fixes and improvements now

In what can only be described as a high-tech version of Stockholm syndrome, Windows fans now have all their hopes wrapped up in “Blue,” a set of “year one” updates to Windows 8 and related platforms that will supposedly right all the wrongs of the original releases. I don’t want to rain on this well-intentioned parade, but I think it’s time for a little common sense. Blue will surely be an improvement. But don’t expect a panacea that fixes all of the problems with Microsoft latest platforms.

I’ve not written formally about “Blue” yet, but here’s what we do know. And to be clear, the vast majority of this information comes courtesy of Mary Jo Foley, who’s uncovered a treasure trove of details about Microsoft’s plans for the future.

Blue is the code-name for a wave of updates to Windows 8/RT, Windows Phone 8, Windows Server 2012, and Windows services such as Outlook.com and SkyDrive. These updates will be released roughly one year after the general availability of each of these platforms, at roughly (but not exactly) the same time.

Blue is not the only update that will arrive this year for Windows 8/RT, Windows Phone 8, Windows Server 2012, and Windows services such as Outlook.com and SkyDrive. Other, smaller updates are arriving all the time as well, such as firmware updates for Windows RT, app updates for Windows 8/RT, and so on.

Blue is scheduled for a summer 2013 RTM and Q3/Q4 release. Shipment times will vary by platform, of course.

Blue is a feature-pack/service pack. While Microsoft has formally ended development of service packs for most currently-supported platforms, it’s helpful to think of Blue as a combination feature pack (an update that adds new features) and service pack (and update that fixes bugs). Why? Because that’s exactly what it is. In the past, Windows service packs were released by Windows Sustained Engineering, while the group that created the original OS moved on to the next major release. This is true of Blue as well, Mary Jo reports: WSE is creating Windows Blue, just as they had created releases like Windows 7 Service Pack 1 in the past.

Blue is the start of something new. As alluded to above, with previous versions of Microsoft’s on-premise platforms (Windows, Windows Server), different teams would handle different aspects of the platform’s lifecycle. And while that’s not changing, what is changing is the schedule. Instead of major releases every three years with services packs in-between, Microsoft’s major platforms will be updated like online services, with new releases on much faster time frames, usually quarterly. Blue is a bigger deal, however, because it is the first major release to revolutionary new platforms. So it will be a big-bang release that ships roughly one year later. I expect Microsoft to begin (or continue) pushing smaller updates out to these platforms, more frequently after/aside from Blue.

Windows Blue will include new features for Windows 8/RT. According to a recent job posting, Windows Blue will “build and improve upon the Core Experience features of the OS … including the Start screen, application lifecycle, windowing and personalization … enhancing ease of use and the overall user experience on devices and PCs worldwide.”

Windows Phone Blue will include “reimagined” Office Mobile apps that will share code with coming Office Mobile apps for Windows 8/RT. These apps will have a “consistent experience … across web, tablets, and phones.” Yes, Metro versions of Office are on the way too.

Yes, Windows 9 is coming too. While Blue essentially speeds up development cycles for Windows 8/RT and Windows Server, and aligns them more closely with the existing development cycles for Windows Phone and Microsoft’s online services, this release and the new development plan don’t spell the end of major releases. Windows 9 is of course happening and is under development now, and will ship roughly three years after Windows 8, as you might expect. Microsoft won’t keep a product called Windows 8 in the market for over a decade or whatever. They still need new product versions that partners can advertise alongside new PCs and devices.

So this is all very interesting, of course. It’s also surprisingly obvious when you think about it. There’s nothing in this list of facts about Blue that anyone reading this site hasn’t at least considered. And that’s troubling.

See, the thing is, Windows 8 is broken right now. It’s got a lot of built-in apps that don’t work properly, or well, and they’re connected to a lot of online services—especially the terrible Xbox entertainment services—that are in need of even more work. So while switching from a once-every-three-years to once-a-year schedule sounds great, the truth is that Windows 8/RT and Windows Phone 8, in particular, needs to be fixed before one year. They need to be fixed now.

With Windows Phone 8, we know that Microsoft will deliver a handful of updates before Blue and that one of those updates, “Portico,” has in fact already shipped. But there’s been precious little movement on the Windows 8 front, and the embarrassing nature of those built-in apps is something that Microsoft can and should fix immediately and on an ongoing basis. Are you really telling me we can’t get a unified inbox view in Mail and working music matching in Xbox Music before October 2013? Really?

So, yes, please, look forward to Blue and hope that it fixes problems. But also expect more than that, people. Microsoft just delivered a couple of woeful works-in-progress in order to meet an artificial release schedule. Customers who actually paid for these products should expect more than to wait a year for the fixes.

Discuss this Article 61

pthurrott
on Feb 19, 2013

Last time I asked, there were no plans for SP2.

red77star
on Feb 19, 2013

I am not expecting anything new with SP2 but rather security rollout in form of Service Pack 2. I suspect IE10 is coming out for Windows 7 as well probably as separate download.

Speaking of 'Blue'. Here is my crazy theory. I believe that Desktop is going to be metrofied if not now at least in Windows 9. What do i mean by it? MS will remove TaskBar and replace with same thing you see in Metro Screen (bottom screen) when you click on certain tile. Explorer Window will get even more flat and i think everything is going to be full screen. For some reason MS designers think we don't need to see more than one window at the same time in one screen therefore everything is going full screen.

You guys mark this date of Feb. 19th and remember what i just said. MS is going full speed into this risky business of Windows 8 and beyond.

M Wagner
on Apr 17, 2013

I doubt that we will see the desktop disappear from Windows (NT) any time soon. the enterprise is just too dependent upon preemptive multitasking to do that. Nevertheless, I would not be surprised to see the Desktop in Windows RT fading away over time.

We may see Windows RT become the "new" Windows Home and Windows 8.1 (or later) become the "new" Windows Pro.

Win Factor
on Feb 19, 2013

I wonder if Windows 8 will drive additional Mac market share among consumers (probably not for businesses)?

eboyhan
on Feb 21, 2013

As I've said before, the W8 wave of releases contained 3 major items: a new API, winRT, a new touch centric UI, "metro", and support for ARM processors. Of these 3 (IMV) the most important to the core windows teams is the new API. Peter Bright has an excellent review of the history and content in this API at:
http://arstechnica.com/features/2012/10/windows-8-and-winrt-everything-o...
Two thing resonate with me from reading that article: winRT is stacked on top of the old win32 API, and a somewhat improved COM interface, not the OS core; and there are some significant changes in the model this API imposes on programmers (like all I/O must be asynchronous -- probably to enable "fast and fluid"). IMO winRT is very much an R1.0 release, and as such its capabilities were largely determined by whatever the minimum that was necessary to get the new UI up and running.

Many enterprise capabilities (like AD support are completely missing). I suspect that a lot of the effort going forward will be on fleshing out the content of winRT. New features will result as a side effect of that effort. Whether the winRT stuff is Blue, or W9, I haven't a clue.

As Paul has noted in his many W8 articles going back to the beginning, there are issues with how the "metro" and "desktop" environments interact/interoperate; and many of the MS-provided "metro" apps are seriously challenged.

How to fix the environment disconnects is a hard problem, and goes beyond things like returning the Start button or booting to the desktop. Some of the programming design precepts inherent in the current version of winRT include a notion of keeping the "desktop" and "metro" environments sandboxed from each other. Having two versions of a browser, or an email client seems a bit ridiculous, and at the very least confusing to many.

All that being said, MS can clearly respond quickly to improve the MS-provided "metro" apps; they can also probably do a lot to bring WP8 and Window RT development into synch -- that could go a long way to quickly increasing the number of apps in the app store.

I wonder whether at some point X86 chips might be supported in Windows RT. That OS had its early name (Windows on ARM) changed to Windows RT, which I believe MS thinks more accurately portrays the core idea of Windows RT to wit the only API exposed to programmers is WinRT. WinRT is largely agnostic as to whether it ultimately sits on top of an ARM chip or an X86 chip. As Paul has stated, Windows RT (or more properly Windows on WinRT) is probably the future of Windows. It will supersede W8 in much the same way that Windows NT superseded Windows 95 (or more properly Windows on DOS).

lat227
on Mar 29, 2013

I agree with most of the comments above. The biggest problem I see is the fact that 99 percent of desktop users do not have a touch screen and will not buy one because of the extreme expense and how physically awful it would be to use. I am much quicker and accurate with a mouse. I can not imagine leading over my desk to actually do work all day; my back would be hurting after a few hours and it would take me twice as long. Touch screens are great for tablets and phones, but that's all. OMG...I don't want to switch to Apple.....

lat227
on Mar 30, 2013

I agree with most of the comments above. The biggest problem I see is the fact that 99 percent of desktop users do not have a touch screen and will not buy one because of the extreme expense and how physically awful it would be to use. I am much quicker and accurate with a mouse. I can not imagine leading over my desk to actually do work all day; my back would be hurting after a few hours and it would take me twice as long. Touch screens are great for tablets and phones, but that's all. OMG...I don't want to switch to Apple.....

Siv
on Mar 30, 2013

Here's a thing, given what we now know about Blue and Windows 9, i.e. slowly but surely they are going to drop the desktop completely, what are productivity users going to do?

I like the Windows 8 interface on a tablet, I hate it on my dual screen desktop PC and like other posters here I am never going to want to touch those 24" screens EVER!

So are all desktop productivity users just to be forgotten in this mad rush to play "me too" with Apple and their iPad.

The only future I can see is to switch to Linux Mint and start developing for Android and Linux if they really care so little about keyboard and mice users.

I can type faster with a keyboard than I can write by hand and I need the precision of a mouse for designing icons, editing pictures and movies. How can they ever assume I would want to use a finger to do that?

Indeed how can people who spend all day in business working in accounts, spreadsheets and databases going to use a touch first operating system if you remove the desktop?

Have Microsoft gone completely mad?

The more they push Windows 8 and it's Metro interface on desktop users the more I think "flogging a dead horse"! Even Apple aren't daft enough to try and have one O/S on their tablets and desktop PCs??

I say vote with your wallet!

The only way I could see it working is like this:

1. Make RT the only version of Windows 8 that drops the desktop and call it Windows 8 For Mobile Devices (W84M). When you are using a tablet, only the ARM chips seem currently able to give the essential 10+ hours usage to compete with the Android tablets.

2. Make Windows 8 for x86/x64 Windows for Desktop (W84D) and make it default to a Windows 7/8 style desktop and have an option in the control panel to enable the Metro interface for those people who might like to mix it up like it is now. Preferably with Metro done like Stardock's ModernMix application so that you can run Metro Apps in a Window on the Desktop. (I have to say I think Stardock have more of a clue than Microsoft at the moment, Start8 particularly is saving Microsoft the return of a lot of Windows 8 PCs).

Siv

rsotol028
on Mar 30, 2013

you dont want or like moderUI then stay with xp, vista or 7.
the perfect OS: full modernUI, only 64 bits (with 32bit support), 3 languages for america's version (english, spanish, portuguese). ie10 modernUI needs a zoom button.

zack_falcon
on Apr 25, 2013

Here's what I want for an update from Blue:

- Bootable straight to desktop.
- Start MENU, not just Start Button, complete with a 'no-charms-bar-required' Shutdown / Restart / Lock / Log Off button.
- No Metro-influences on the desktop.
- Optional Aero Style.
- Metro itself as an App.
- Windows Media Player mini mode.

Thoughts?

leewebb
on May 2, 2013

For those still yearning for a Windows 8 Start button you get get it back here.

Best of all its FREE!
http://www.iobit.com/iobitstartmenu8.php
installed and tested on 8 & Blue

Please or Register to post comments.

IT/Dev Connections

Las Vegas
September 30th - October 4th

Paul ThurottYou'll have the opportunity to experience:
• 120 Technical
Sessions
• Networking with Peers
• Expert Speakers


Come See Paul Thurrott & Mary Jo Foley in Person!

Register Now

Office 365 InfoCenter

Get the latest insight and info from Paul

Read Now!

What I Use