Fixing Windows 8, Part 3: Start Screen

It’s the face of Windows 8. Let’s fix it

The Windows 8 Start screen is fine on tablet devices, but is borderline useless to users of traditional PCs. Fortunately, a few simple fixes will make this crucial user interface better for all users.

This one is a huge area of functional dissonance, and given that it’s a 1.0 implementation in Windows 8, there are clearly plenty of things that need to be fixed. I’ll highlight some of the obvious ones here, but let me know what I missed.

(Note: With these kinds of suggestions, there’s always some well-intentioned soul who mentions that they like things just the way they are. That’s nice. But as is generally the case with these “Fixing Windows 8” suggestions, what I’m really asking for is choice. So you would be able to keep using Windows 8 in its current state if that’s what you want, thanks to more mature customization functionality.)

Snap

I’ve suggested this one in the past, but what the heck, it’s needed: Microsoft should allow the Start screen to be used in Snap mode so that it can sit on the side of the screen and be visible at all times, providing tile-based status updates from your favorite apps. I find it odd that the Start screen is the only Metro experience that can’t be snapped, since this is one of the few Metro experiences that actually makes sense in the constricted, thin Snap area.

Multiple tile sizes

With the more mature Windows Phone platform, Microsoft has evolved live tiles to support three native sizes, which we might think of as small, medium, and large. But Windows 8 only supports two, medium (square) and large. I’d like to see Windows 8 support up to four tile sizes for even more customization choices, including small (which, like medium would be square, and would be static only) and extra-large, which could provide a larger canvas for in-app information and be ideal for large screen desktop PCs and other devices.

Clock and other status information

Windows 8 is the only mobile environment I’m aware of that doesn’t offer a status/notification area at the top of the screen, and while one might make the argument that this bit of UI would clutter the currently-clean Metro app experiences, it’s a necessity on the Start screen. I shouldn’t have to tap WINKEY + C (or otherwise enable the Charms) to see the time, date, battery life, network connectivity, and other related information. And given how much free/wasted space there is on the Start screen, it’s not hard to image what this might look like. No brainer.

Note: Obviously, the status information could be located anywhere on screen. I’m not a designer.

Sleep/Shutdown/Restart

While I have no problem with Microsoft moving the power choices (Sleep, Shutdown, and Restart) to the Settings pane, these items are not really settings, and should be more readily available from the Start screen. The obvious place is in the menu that appears when you tap the user tile. Today, this menu includes options like Lock and Sign out. Why not Sleep, Shutdown, and Restart too?

Collapsible folders/groups

Windows 8 currently lets you organize Start screen tiles in visual groups which are segregated from each other and can be named. But when you pin a lot of tiles to the Start screen, you need to scroll off to the right to find what you’re looking for. To evolve this concept into something more usable, Microsoft should consider making these groups collapsible—a concept I wrote up some time ago—or just allow for tile “folders” that would open up in-place similar to iOS folders. More content in less space.

Anything else?

Discuss this Article 87

comprocomputers
on Dec 22, 2012

I LOVE all these suggestions. Especially the one where the start menu is pinned to the side of the screen! Please for the love of god Microsoft take these suggestions and implement them!

andrewtechhelp
on Dec 22, 2012

THANK You for suggesting they move the Shut Down button to that User Tile. Splitting up Lock/Sign Off/Switch User from Sleep/Hibernate/Shut Down/Restart just didn't make any sense to me. They belong together.

I'm not sure if you can do this currently (I'm pretty sure you can not), but being able to Pin Folders, Files & Control Panel applets would be nice too.

Sen
on Dec 22, 2012

You can pin folders and control panel shortcuts. Files are possible with a simply registry edit too. I think they are trying to move us away from the age old habit of cluttering up our desktops with documents and files; instead having all files live inside the apps / cloud.

Particularly for these Desktop items, a quarter sized tile would be very useful indeed. One has to believe multiple sizes are coming.

ian.berg
on Dec 22, 2012

Can any photo from my Skydrive be set as the background for the Start screen, and perhaps rotate through them, like a Windows XP/vista/7 Desktop background?

AlexKven
on Dec 22, 2012

Well, the Wikipedia entry for Windows Blue says that you will get resizable tiles in Blue, so that right there is a step in the right direction.

ozaz
on Dec 22, 2012

The improvement I'd most like to see in the start screen is an option to segregate desktop and metro apps. As a minimum, I'd like some kind of visual indicator on desktop app tiles to show that they are for desktop apps. However, I'd really rather be able to bring up one start screen view only for desktop apps (or perhaps even the old start menu) and one start screen view only for metro apps.

uxo22
on Dec 22, 2012

Nice Suggestions, I like them all. I still also think that Microsoft should make it optional (natively) to have the traditional start menu on non-tablet devices. Additionally, I think that there should be a notifications charm added that gives you a history of your notifications. (unless there is another way to see notifications history that I have missed.)

carkuss
on Dec 22, 2012

Everything Paul mentioned would make the large screen desktop experience MUCH better.
One really minor change I would like is making the back and forward arrows in Metro IE larger. They are kind small on my 23" screen. You have to hunt for them a bit.

AJ
on Dec 22, 2012

:-) agree. One my 27" XPS touch, took me a week before I realized they were there

jmw7753
on Dec 22, 2012

I wish Windows 8 would recognize whether the user had a mouse or touch interface, and offer different cues accordingly. When I upgraded my desktop, I was using a mouse, and disliked the start screen and the whole UI, because nosing my mouse pointer into corners, etc. was hit-or-miss. Once my touchpad arrived, everything made more sense.

bdegrande
on Dec 22, 2012

Makes a lot of sense. I would actually even go a bit further and have shutdown and restart visible on the screen at all times, maybe on the onscreen status bar that Paul mentioned.

tboggs13
on Dec 22, 2012

I find the Start screen very useful for search, but less so as a launcher on a desktop. If anything, it is a distraction as I see the live tiles and start reading news.

I pretty much would love to see all of these suggestions implemented. I would also like all of the live tiles to have a mandatory square with the app icon in the lower left hand corner. Once the tiles go live, it is very difficult to tell which is which.

Justin M Salvato
on Dec 22, 2012

Having the Start screen snap is a must. Adding the shut down/sleep to the Microsoft Account name is a good idea! But the time and date shouldn't be on the bottom; should be to the left of the Microsoft Account name. By the way, what people call wasted space, I call neat. Let's not get crazy trying to add data to these spaces.

Sterling
on Dec 22, 2012

I agree with all the suggestions, specially time and date (and battery info on supported devices) on the Start screen.

I'd also like to see folder support.

You didn't mentioned it here but have before and that's support for custom backgrounds. Stardock's Decor8 offers this, but it should be built into Windows.

Reldel
on Dec 22, 2012

How about letting you arraign tiles alphabetically within groups without having to play Rubix Cube?

sekyal
on Dec 22, 2012

I agree with you. You move on the rest just move also. It is very difficult to set them up exactly how you want. Also agree with all of Pauls suggestions.

garytenzer
on Dec 23, 2012

I would like the tiles to be locked into place and only be movable after pressing on them for a few seconds (like icons in iOS). It is far too easy to accidently move tiles around on the screen by accident.

Reldel
on Dec 22, 2012

How about creating a method to arraign tiles alphabetically with start groups instead of making us play rubix cube trying to sort them?

Curmudgeon
on Dec 22, 2012

Paul makes some terrific suggestions for changes to the functionality of Windows 8. But what about aesthetics? Because let's face it, the Windows 8 Start screen is horribly ugly. Tacky. Tasteless. I should really go find a thesaurus to try to find more words to describe its altogether awfulness.

Too many colors. Too many tiles flashing and/or generally updating themselves. Everything just screaming for your attention. It's visually noisy. The Start screen is an eyesore.

The problem is that Microsoft's not going to fix it. They won't hire anybody with taste. But perhaps we can convince them to write the API to allow 3rd-parties to skin it.

sekyal
on Dec 22, 2012

You do realize you can turn off live tiles right? Although a master choice for turning them on or off would be helpful I suppose.

xnederlandx
on Dec 22, 2012

Re: Folders on Start Screen.
I remember reading a while back (correct me if I'm wrong) that the designers of the start screen intentionally didn't use folders, and instead designed semantic zoom to deal with the issue of so many tiles.
Thus does your proposal mean that you want a switch between folders and semantic zoom?
Or that you can have like semantic zoom regions/tiles on the start screen which you can like zoom in on more to view the tiles in it or see them as larger tile sizes?

ER_Blue
on Dec 22, 2012

Paul, you've really thought this through. Great suggestions, really. All equally so. I can't pick one over the other. All should be implemented. Hopefully MS Windows team is reading this.

pfismvg
on Dec 22, 2012

Good to see your slowly coming back to earth Paul, and start to acknowledge that Win8 needs lots of fixing. But snapping the Metro menu to the side of the screen is of course nonsense. That would take up a huge chunk of the screen (al the time), and probably be unusable because you need to scroll sideways.
The old start menu was simply perfect, and even if it is 17 years old, it did/does not need fixing for PC's controlled by keyboard/mouse.

sddjd
on Dec 22, 2012

Also agree with these ideas for improvement. Like any other OS I find plenty I'd like to see improved, but just as much that finds me pleasantly surprised.

My TOP gripe right now is trying to deploy a couple pc's in our work environment to test drive win8, but being required to use a Microsoft account to access the "accounts" entry in the Mail app settings. H3ll will freeze before we bow to creating MS accounts for every user in our environment just to be able to use the built-in Mail app.

I've searched the web but cannot find any clue as to how to circumvent this (aside from all the "just hit ctrl+I" tips). Free, easy, regardless, has Microsoft really deluded themselves into thinking the uncounted business pc's will all just sign up for MS accounts?

milky_cereal
on Jan 2, 2013

I find this annoying too. In fact, why not let you use your AD account as a pseudo MS account. Either give you some kind of corporate federation between the MS account and AD account, or just reduce the functionality of the online accounts (like no store access or only with access to free apps, or something like that). There has to be an easier way. And MS, don't tell me I need Enterprise to do this. There are plenty of small to medium businesses where Enterprise does NOT make sense under any circumstances.

vigitalmoe
on Dec 22, 2012

would also love to see the ability to continue working in Metro UI on primary screen while working on desktop in secondary screen without Metro UI/ Start Screen disappearing to desktop

johnlavey
on Dec 22, 2012

These are all good 'fixes', Paul. I especially like the suggestion to add the time, date and connectivity indicators to the lower right corner....where they have resided for years. I am so used to looking at the date, time and calendar in the task bar. Not seeing these items on the start screen only encourages me to go back to the desktop....they were an integral part of Windows 7 and prior OS layouts and great conveniences.

And while MS is at it, why not build the Window 8 calendar into these new time and date placements. I like the style of the new Windows 8 calendar but it makes more sense to me to have it readily available on the lower right rather than as a Windows 8 tile.

Darutto
on Dec 24, 2012

I like your suggestion of the calendar. It was nice and tidy to click on the date and open the small calendar, it could save a tile on my crowded start screen

Jsgratch
on Dec 22, 2012

Excellent suggestions, but if I could add one: there needs to be some sort of visual cue for closing metro based applications. The dragging from the top of the screen to bottom with a mouse while engaging the primary click is clumsy and unintuitive. A visual cue would make exiting the full screen apps much easier for new users and provide a nice symmetry with the legacy desktop apps. This option could be disabled by users for those who so wish it or make use of a touch interface.

I know alt-f4 works but not everyone is aware of the short cut.

JimP
on Dec 22, 2012

Metro needs a better way to close an app. Dragging your finger from the top of the screen all the way to the bottom of the screen is not discoverable.

Darutto
on Dec 24, 2012

And with crappy touchpads is not easy to do either! You need a proper click to do it correctly using a mouse.

Jack
on Dec 22, 2012

A master MRU list for documents (a small tile in the empty space that opens a drop down list?), and/or perhaps one list for each app/tile that requires one - similar to the list you get when you right-click on an icon on the desktop taskbar.

ScubaDog2008
on Dec 22, 2012

Okay, I agree that the Start screen should be "snapable". I don't necessarily agree with the collapsing of tiles or groups, because if I really need to move that fast I use the lower right corner to show ALL the groups and then I zoom to where I want...OR I simply start typing the app I want. BTW, I do NOT have a single icon on my Desktop on any machine now. Everything is on my Start screen, whether it takes me to desktop or not. I love it! As for more tile sizes...meh. I don't like three sizes on WP8, so I'm fine with just two on Win8. On the clock/battery/etc status, I'm STILL wondering why nobody has created a simple Metro app to sit as a tile. Seriously, developers, there should be as many of these out there as there are fart apps. Get with it! And as for the Start/Sleep/Shutdown....again? Really? I almost never turn mine off. If I'm on my notebook I just close the lid. My desktop machines are on nearly 24/7, so I just configure the power profile appropriately. Not an issue. People have to get smarter about using computers overall.

Boots
on Dec 23, 2012

Did you read the third paragraph of this article?
None of these changes will stop you using Windows 8 the way you like. They just give other users a choice to use it in a different way.

ScubaDog2008
on Dec 26, 2012

Does Apple? Nope. And iPad is easily beating all comers. I applaud Microsoft for establishing a new approach, and I applaud the effort (if not completely the execution) to push users to adopt it. If there are whiners complaining that the new interface is too "confusing" for people, it would be so much MORE so if there are a lot of other customizations. I stand by my post, with one correction. It turns out there ARE a number of time/date apps out there and I've found one that I like and have installed it on all devices. I can place the tile where I feel it best suits my use. Now all we need is a battery app and the issue is solved.

James-SantaBarbara
on Mar 14, 2013

You miss the point. Configurability has always been the cornerstone for Windows users.

You like the Start Screen...MANY users don't. Of course there should be multiple sized tiles...to each his own. Why an app to display time/day/date with easy access to a quick calendar when it should be usefully integrated into the OS.

Some people DO shut their PCs down, quite a few serious people have desktops, or some may wish to restart the PC after an upgrade or for other reasons. Whatever! Easier access to a typical function such as powering down/restarting is easily corrected as Paul suggests.

My desktop has a single icon (Recycle Bin) but my taskbar is loaded...and those with jump-lists are invaluable for speeding up productive work. I don't want a Start Page app that limits any jump-list configuration the way 99% of Windows 8 apps do...they generally are too limited and not configurable.

There should be 2 Windows product lines...one Metrofied for consumption, simple browsing, and email; and one for serious work that minimizes Metro apps and all of their limitations.

mkopelke
on Dec 22, 2012

Like most people here, I think all of these suggestions are excellent - especially the one about the clock. That seriously seriously SERIOUSLY bugs the HECK outta me! I am used to being able to just glance down into the bottom left-hand corner of my screen to get the time, but with Win8? Gotta leave my house hovered over the right - so stupid.

For me, when it comes to fixing the Start screen, my suggestion is not really one that MSFT can fix themselves - but it's the app developers. I really wish the developers would make much better use of Live Tiles. For example, neither MetroTwit or Rowi offer new tweets et al on the Live Tile - all you end up with is a big static icon image. I've noticed this on WP as well, and it annoys me. We don't need a notification area in Win8 or WP8 if only developers would use Live Tiles better.

Another suggestion would be to allow you to vary how the individual groups of Tiles are constructed. Right now, when you fill up the first column of a group, and the Tiles spill over into a second column, that second column (much like the first one) must be a double width size to accommodate wide Tiles (hope this is making sense!). I'd like to have the option to have a set of wide Live Tiles as my first column in a group, followed by a set of thin Live Tiles running down the side. Would make better use of screen space.

reded23
on Dec 22, 2012

Yep, you got all this spot on, Paul !

cboh
on Dec 22, 2012

The idea of snapping the Start screen is FANTASTIC !!!

Microsoft should implement this and pay Paul a large sum of money ...

That alone will do most of the join-up between Metro and Desktop ... especially if the border can be dragged so that the Metro to Desktop ratio is infinitely variable ... to the pixel.

A follow-up would be the ability to "fix" Metro to a monitor in a multi-monitor setup.

Brilliant !!!

CaymanDreamin
on Dec 22, 2012

I'm running dual monitors and my pet peeve is that the start screen won't stay on the secondary monitor while I'm working on the primary or vice versa. As soon as you start working on anything on the desktop, the start screen disappears. If you have a metro app running, it will stay up, but why not the start screen? I want to be able to see my live tiles while I'm working on something else.

ozaz
on Dec 24, 2012

Just encountered this behavior. I agree, its very annoying!

Maelstrom
on Dec 22, 2012

I do agree with all these suggestions. And to be more precise, I see extral large tiles as being 4x4.

Moreover, I would like a more consistent UX across the ecosystem especially between WP8 and Windows 8.
For instance, let's take the Calendar App. There, on my WP, my personal calendar uses my accent color of the moment and of course others for my various calendars. But as you know, you have different default color settings with Windows 8, at times in total contradiction with what you use on your phone for the same basic app. So, we do need to see those kind of settings sync'ed.
In fact, we should benefit from nearly the same UX whatever the platform we use in the ecosystem whether those apps are designed for Windows 8 or Windows Phone or even the xBox. There, the Windows team would be more than inspired to follow the Windows Phone team's lead and experience too!

AJ
on Dec 22, 2012

Great suggestions! except for collapsible tile clusters, have felt the need for the rest. Also some clear demarcation between apps and applications!

carkuss
on Dec 22, 2012

Apple is now going back and forth between IOs and the Mac OS putting features that make sense on both types of devices.
No reason MS can't do the same with Windows Phone 8 and Win 8.

WaltC
on Dec 22, 2012

Your ideas are great, and I especially like the Snap treatments you are suggesting. Windows Pro 8; WindowsRT; and Windows Phone 8 OS are all incompatible with each other for obvious reasons. Microsoft insisting that such varied and differing devices should all bear the same GUI is strange. Each GUI should have functions and appearances relative to its unique capabilities. Microsoft has some work to do this year with Win8 Pro and perhaps with you doing some prodding the company will get it done. Your suggestions are a great place for them to start.

I'd like to see an option to scroll the start screen vertically as well as horizontally, but unless they implement some of your other suggestions relative to tiles there's not much reason to do that.

Yuxie
on Dec 22, 2012

You're suggesting are amazing. Here's what I've though of:
- Start Screen tile size: Giant... for the desktop "app"
- We need a start Orb... mostly to provide a "safe space" between the corner of your screen on your first application in the row (file explorer by default) so you don't trigger the corner unintendly
- Shortcuts in the Start Screen... like you said, similar to grouping them, I absolutely do not want to scroll 4 pages just to find Powerpoint.
- The right click: Why did they have to ruin the right click in metro? Also, why not make it tap-and-hold or 1+2 tap for the "right click" for touch (and make the app bar come out"? "Right Click" is what we're all used to as our "secondary menu option."

- Being able to "snap" the start screen is an amazing idea. Because if you tweak the information density of the snapped mode, then it can used as a traditional start menu.

I really feel like I need to jump through too many hoops to get things done in Windows 8... I do not feel like I am commanding the computer, as if this "world" is governed by a new set of physics laws.

wss
on Dec 22, 2012

I don't understand how this has been overlooked:

Have separate start screens for live and non-live tiles, i.e. plain old icons.

Did I hear a slap on the forehead?

With multiple displays you could have the Live Start Screen with tiles updating on the second display (full screen or snapped) without any of the non-live tiles taking space there. You don't need to see them because they ain't updating.

When you click on a live tile, it will get opened/launched either there (snapped or going full screen) or on your main display.

You can work out the possibilities. It only makes sense.

SamR
on Dec 22, 2012

I like your ideas Paul. What about making the Start screen and in fact Metro itself a optional Windowed App in Windows 8 ? Not on RT of course.

So you have the base Windows engine running the show with both environments Metro and Desktop as Apps. With multiple Metros only also able to work in a scalable Window in Desktop.

I know it shakes the whole paradigm to pieces but I would like to have some Metro Apps "Windowed".

Crazy talk.

At the moment, I treat Metro like accelerators, web slice, MSN, Sidebar, Gadgets, active Desktop, Bing desktop, silverlight and other Microsoft proprietry innovations. I mostly ignore it. Having said that, Windows 8 is the best $15 I ever spent.

freeandeasy
on Dec 22, 2012

Great idea about snapping the start screen to the left. I might actually re-enable some tiles and use it if that were possible. Good idea on the shutdown options as well, and it's mind-blowing that they don't put status items (battery, time) on the start screen.

All in all, great article, but it really makes you wonder what the heck is wrong with Microsoft that they can't understand these very simple concepts of what is acceptable.

For now I'll keep using classic shell so I don't have to see the useless start screen, but if they implemented some of your ideas, I might give it a go.

Shan
on Dec 23, 2012

"Collapsible folders/groups"

I'm with Paul on this one and it's absolutely essential!

In the studio on our Audio/Video workstations, we take FULL advantage of jumplists in the Start menu. Production is greatly increased by pinning templates in the jumplists of a program. This allows one to get a project started very fast. Also of great value that gets used are the "Recent" jumplists and "Tasks". Just the pinned templates alone in all the many audio/video programs and utilities are well over 100 on a normal workstation. To have these individual templates currently pinned to the Start screen brings forth a very unmanageable mess with hundreds of tiles, thus hindering production greatly. It's actually completely unusable. Sure, one could pin the programs to the taskbar and take advantage of the jumplists there, but there's just too many programs and utilities that wouldn't all fit. The old Start menu is actually better suited for this type of workflow. I'd like to see the collapsible folders/groups have organized sections for "Templates" and "Recent" files so we can USE the Start screen as a productive tool in the production pipeline.

Thanks for this ongoing discussion and a place to post real world feedback from users.

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