Going Pro: Post-PC vs. PC-Plus

Surface with Windows 8 Pro is a physical representation of Microsoft’s vision of a PC-Plus era

Flying home from Cancun today, I’m watching a young man a few rows up rotating his iPad in the air in front of him. He’s playing a racing game of some kind, has been since the flight attendants gave us the OK on using electronics. Watching him between the seats, I’m struck by how different the iPad really is from the Surface Pro, and how the two machines so closely mirror the visions of their makers. It was Apple’s Steve Jobs who infamously ushered in the so-called “post-PC” era three years ago when launching the first iPad. But Surface corresponds to Microsoft’s view that we’re actually in a “PC-Plus” era, one that will include traditional PCs as well as devices.

Taken in the light of these competing visions, the Surface Pro and iPad both make a lot of sense. And you don’t have to cart out the admittedly tired “consumption vs. creation” debate to make the point, though I do think it’s fair to say that where iPad falls firmly on the side of “consumption first, creation second” while Surface Pro is decidedly “creation first, consumption second.”

(On a side note, Surface RT sort of bridges these worlds in an interesting fashion, and in this way is the embodiment of Microsoft’s almost pathological desire to serve all markets. Taken on its own, and ignoring for a moment the immaturity of its supporting ecosystem, Surface RT is absolutely a consumption first/creation second device. But with a choice of keyboard covers and the bundled copy of Office 2013, it’s also got a foot firmly in the creation first/consumption second world.)

Since I am a doubter and something of a pessimist, I do of course wonder about Microsoft’s strategy.

I can’t deny that Surface Pro is successful at being both a hybrid-Ultrabook and a tablet. But in striving to be all things to all customers, Surface Pro is also something of a compromise. The weight and bulk of Surface Pro compared to iPad, and the battery life, make it less useful as a tablet. So while I could of course play a racing game on this device that I’m now typing this article on, it would be a bit awkward. More to the point, it’s unclear whether Microsoft’s vision—which is essentially to be all things to all people in a single device—is correct.

Granted, we’re in a transitionary period. Windows 8 is like a new-born foal, all elbows and knees, incomplete and unsure of itself, and future updates to the OS—as well as future, less compromising devices—may help this hybrid system come into its own. Too, that immature ecosystem, which impacts Surface Pro as well though less so than with Surface RT, gets better with each passing day.

Preparing for trip, I asked my kids, aged 14 and 11, what electronics they intended to bring with them. My son, the older child, said he would take his laptop—a hand-me-down ThinkPad—as well as his 4th generation iPod touch. “Why not the iPad?” I asked. (He has a hand-me-down iPad as well.) He prefers the iPod touch. There you go.

My daughter would also bring her laptop—and hand-me-down Macbook Air running Windows 7—and a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus tablet. “Why not the iPad?” I asked her too. (She also has a hand-me-down iPad, in this case an even older iPad 2.) “Eh. I like the little tablet better.”

So here are my kids, eschewing full-sized iPads for smaller devices, but still bringing along traditional laptops, the latter of which are used for a combination of (school) work and play. Both watched movies on the trip using the laptops, not the devices. Their choice.

Interesting.

One of the debates around Windows 8 is whether Microsoft would have been better off creating something called Windows 8 that was simply Windows 7 plus the desktop updates they did ship in Windows 8, and targeting that system at traditional PCs. Then they could have created this separate “Metro” OS and targeted a new class of touch-based Windows devices. As I wrote in Microsoft’s Mobile Strategy is Correct, however, that tactic would have failed. Traditional PC buyers would have stuck with Windows 8, and virtually no one would have purchased Metro devices, leaving the non-PC world to Android and iOS.

Of course, Microsoft’s current strategy creates this huge compromise, one where we have a hybrid/Frankenstein OS that runs on both traditional PCs as well as new hybrid/Frankenstein devices. One can only assume that Microsoft beats the drum for its “no compromises” vision so steadily in part to draw attention away from harsh reality.

That is, looking at the kid with his iPad, you see a singular vision for the device, which is comfortable being what it is. With Surface, and Windows 8 and hybrid devices in general, Microsoft seems to be trying too hard. This is a device that isn’t comfortable in its mission, because its mission is to be everything to everybody.

In a way, this has always been the Achilles Heel of Windows. In trying to please such a huge and diverse group of users, Windows can never been great at a handful of things. Instead, it’s good at everything. Apple’s devices pretty much go for the jugular, at least at inception: They’re great at a handful of things and pretty much useless at everything else. Over time, with updates, Apple’s products move closer to the middle-of-the-road miasma that dogs Windows. But Apple tends to move on to the next big thing before they let their products get truly mediocre.

Could the kid in front of me banged out a 1000 word article on his iPad during this flight? Maybe. But I think the iPad attracts people who don’t need or want to spend their time on such endeavors. Ultimately, Surface Pro seems to be designed specifically for the PC crowd, for the people who do want a real keyboard, God damn it, and always thought that a stylus with handwriting recognition was a great idea. It’s a way to dip your toe in the waters of truly mobile devices without giving up the comfort and security of a real PC.

It’s possible that Jobs’ vision of a post-PC world will eventually come to pass. But today, we are quite firmly in a PC-Plus world, one where traditional PCs, hybrid PCs, and media tablets exist side by side and are used, quite often, by many of the same people. Choice is good. And I’m going to choose to play a racing game on the Surface Pro for the remainder of the flight. What the heck, I still have 3 hours and 56 minutes of battery life left, far more time than this flight will last.

Discuss this Article 40

tboggs13
on Feb 20, 2013

You should have loaded up Snes8x and played an old Nintendo game with a wired xbox controller. That might have made an impact on those around you. All things to all people.

Rxdiaz
on Feb 20, 2013

But why does everyone think this is a situation where it's going to be pc's or post pc world? Actually I think the pc is certainly not going to go away at all. But the iPads, iPhones, etc. are fantastic suplemental devices. I've been using And supporting MS software from the original DOS and Windows since 3.0, I have no desire to see the pc go away at all. But I think MS in beating users over the head with Metro is actually excellerating the decline of the pc. Windows 8 is an annoyance, and if MS wants us all to recode our applications in Metro then we might as well go to Java. At least then we can run our applications anywhere and not have to worry about MS pulling the plug on our dev tools like they've done so many times in the past. MS has burned a lot of bridges in the past with IT & Developers. Everyone I know is getting tired of these MS machinations from one supposedly hot tech to another. If I had a dollar for every time MS changed direction I'd be retired by now.

bdegrande
on Feb 20, 2013

I don't think Surface Pro works particularly well as a tablet. What I want from a tablet is for it to be small (in many cases I like 7" tablets). light, touch-enabled, have great battery life, and have internet access anywhere (3G/4G/LTE/whatever). The only one of these that the Pro gets right is touch-enabled. To me it is a laptop (with the weight and battery life that that implies) than can be used as a tablet in an emergency.

Rxdiaz
on Feb 20, 2013

I agree, except that it's a rather substandard laptop. My 2+ year old Toshiba laptop is much better and gets well over double the battery life of Surface Pro. Of course when I touch the screen nothing happens but getting smudges on it but that's fine, I prefer Windows 7 anyway.

Barlo_Mung
on Feb 20, 2013

I think it works fine as a tablet. 7" is too small imo. It's light enough for me to use one handed. The battery life is long enough to get me through the day. 4G/LTE would be nice I admit. I really like the pen and I use it in one note more than I thought I would. I also use the on screen keyboard more than I thought I would, flipping the keyboard around for longer things or if I'm sitting at a table. Plus I can run real apps on it which is really nice.

Tim F
on Feb 20, 2013

Is being good at many things rather than great a few things that bad of a strategy? I feel like there has been a general trend over the years toward "good enough" in the name of convenience. That doesn't mean people don't want and enjoy excellence. But if something gives me a good experience with a nice convenience factor, I'm usually willing to take it.

Barlo_Mung
on Feb 20, 2013

I don't think it's a bad thing. My leatherman multitool isn't the best knife or the best screwdriver but I use it more than my larger knife or screwdriver because I always have it with me. The phone on my camera isn't the best but I use it to take more pictures because I don't normally carry my big camera around.
Both of these are good enough most of the time and the fact that I have them with me more often is a huge feature. I see the Pro as being kind of like that.

Tim F
on Feb 21, 2013

Great examples. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Music is another example...listening to MP3s from my phone using a cheap pair of ear buds provides a much lower quality listening experience than if I was sitting in front of a dedicated sound system with high quality speakers. But I'm willing to forgo that high-end setup for convenience and a decent experience.

This idea may not hold true in every area of life, but often it will.

beelzebubbles
on Feb 20, 2013

I’ll bet on better technology (more powerful, cool-running processors) playing to Microsofts strengths…within a few years leading to a single all-in-one device (a delightful book-sized, book-weight tablet which, plugged into a dock, becomes a laptop that can run anything anywhere and, connected to a large touch monitor, can enable doing any type of work or play that people want (the upcoming Thinkpad Helix might be close enough to nirvana for me).
I’m also betting that (unless the Windows/Office design-by-committee approach prevails and destroys MS from within) in a few years, Apple will return to its proper place in the tech world, happily selling three high-profit-margin devices to their historical 10% market share… people who either have a lot of money to spend or who aren’t very careful with how they spend it. Microsoft handed it to Apple, but most people really do count their pennies. That never changes… even in the ever-changing tech world.
Lastly, Apple is now Microsoft... so we have three more-or-less equal evil tech empires vying to control our lives. That can't be bad.

Awake
on Feb 20, 2013

As you indicate in your article, the Surface Pro is too much of a compromise. Too weak to be a 'real' PC, to heavy to be a 'real' tablet, too small to be a 'real' laptop.

Tablets are consumption devices. For that purpose, a $200 Galaxy Tab is as good as the iPad, more portable than the Surface Pro

PCs are for real work at the place where you normally work. I just ordered parts for a new PC. 2TB hard drive, 32GB RAM, some multi-threaded uber processor that is very fast, 23" monitor, etc, all for less than the price of a Surface Pro.

That leaves one category for the Surface Pro, that occupied by the traditional laptop. And I am not sure that for the price I would choose a Pro over any other smaller traditional laptop at half the price.

neteru1920
on Feb 21, 2013

@Awake, I believe it is about perspective. Ultrabooks are designed for portability, so a PC at the ultrabook price with a digitizer pen is exactly what I needed for working on the go.

Surface Pro is a viable candidate for anyone in the Ultrabook market, who wants a touch screen, and a digitizer pen. The Surface Pro is competitively priced for the Ultrabook market.

At home I have a 23 monitor and a workhorse tower, but I'm not looking for those spec in a portable device.

So from my perspective the Surface Pro and Microsoft are dead on in terms of strategy.

scott.girard
on Feb 20, 2013

Maybe your kids have it right: A thin and light laptop along with a smallish tablet. Then you truly have the best of both worlds: a laptop for keyboarding and the smallish tablet for everything else. Something to think about anyway.

Do you suppose Microsoft is working on a smaller tablet device?

pthurrott
on Feb 21, 2013

Yes, Microsoft CFO Peter Klein recently hinted as much.

And yes, I think the kids are on to something. Speaking for myself, I sort of like the separation of church and state (work and play), where my laptop is "clean" (i.e. for work purposes only) and my entertainment is elsewhere.

Rishicash
on Feb 21, 2013

I'm with Paul's kids. Have a proper laptop (preferably an Ultraportable) for anything other than casual surfing and an inexpensive 7" mini for that.

dfey
on Feb 20, 2013

How long till Haswell in the pro
/sigh must wait...

deankaltsas
on Feb 20, 2013

interesting article as well as comments... sometimes i feel we are just trying to do things for the sake of doing things. i mean we can spend a day trying to configure video calling just so we can do it...and then we actually never use it. i made sure i added tethering to me t-mobile for my trip to LA for a week and never actually used it. the hotel wifi was fine. i love the fact that we have choices and that is exactly what it is... it depends on what we do. a small ipad mini , the surface and my nexus 4 is in my bag right now.. i could very easy do without the ipad mini and lighten up the load.... as i use this surface pro it's starting to grow on me and i saw the new vids from the asus with the keyboard that has not only a n extra battery but an extra 500GB hard drive as well... shit! if that happens to the surface..n accessory that makes sense i will be really solving a lot of problems and half of the comments on this blog!

david_mayor
on Feb 21, 2013

I would like to know how you manage your Surface Pro. On mine, I feel a bit lost.
When I use it in laptop mode, I would like to all applications to run in desktop mode (i.e. when I open a PDF file, I would like to open Adobe Reader on the desktop; when I open an image or a music, I would like to use Photo Gallery or Windows Media Player on the desktop)
But when I am using the Surface as a tablet (mainly using Metro apps), I would like to be solely in the Metro environment. So when I open a JPG or music, I would like the Photo app or the Music app to launch, idem for a PDF that I would like it to open with Reader.

I don't like to see a desktop app opened when I am in Metro and vice versa.

Is there a way to do it ? How do you manage this ?

pthurrott
on Feb 21, 2013

Unfortunately, you can't do that. You just pick your app defaults for each document type and it uses that regardless of whether you're currently in Metro or the desktop. This is perhaps one downside to this approach though I'm not clear how they could make an interface to do things otherwise.

saqrkh
on Feb 21, 2013

They could have a "Would you like this app to your default launcher for files opened in desktop?" option.

pmbAustin
on Feb 21, 2013

I've been saying since the first dev preview, that the one thing that is desperatly needed is the ability to have Windows 8 be more intelligent about launching apps... if your'e in metro and 'open'/'launch' a JPG, AVI, MP3, MPG, URL, or whatever... it should open in an available Metro App (only if none are available should it open in a Desktop app). Likewise, when on desktop, opening or launching such a file should open it in an available desktop app (only if none are available should it open in Metro).

This seems like such a no-brainer functionality-wise. But it appears almost no effort was put into making any such thing happen.

This functionality is probably my number 2 wish, behind a comprehensive notification center.

rx78
on Feb 21, 2013

Remember that weirdo Lenovo hybrid that runs windows 7 as laptop and linux when you take screen off and use as a tablet? I'd love to see something like this that turns surface pro into RT when unplugged from a dock. Problem solved :)

http://www.windowsfordevices.com/c/a/News/Lenovo-IdeaPad-U1/

neteru1920
on Feb 21, 2013

Paul,
With the preview release of Ubuntu Tablet OS, they seem to be moving into a PC +One direction. Maybe the Post-PC world has already gone through its cycle.

mikesmikes
on Feb 21, 2013

Software developers, web researchers, and writers are going to want the Surface RT. Period.

Surface RT has had a profound affect on me. You will come to love the QUIET, cool, portability of it. (You will alas begin to really notice and dislike the noise of regular laptops.) The extreme portability means you can carry it anywhere without a thought. You can easily do web research or read/edit office documents on a whim. You can create JSFiddles or work through demos while sitting in a restaurant. On a whim. Unplanned. Or not, just carry it back home again. It weighs nothing, the keyboard folds and protects it. Despite it's flaws, Surface RT is a true gem and super useful device that filled a gaping void. It will not be and was never intended to be a PC replacement, you will still do most of your work on your other PCs.

But the Surface Pro is mostly just a low power noisy laptop. though I could see it being very useful for many many people who need a PC but not a powerful one.

And 7" is too small for serious web browsing, though it is great for reading and everyone should have one. These are basically Kindle readers for adults, and game platforms for kids (who would play endlessly on any sized device with any OS so that is not really saying anything).

mikeh
on Feb 22, 2013

I have a Lenovo w520 in front of me. Dead silent unless I am using the optical drive or playing a game, and one heck of a low more useful than the surface or surface pro as laptop.

If I needed a tablet, there are better options than either of those as well.

"Software developers, web researchers, and writers are going to want the Surface RT".

LMAO. Yeah right.

pmbAustin
on Feb 21, 2013

I *finally* got my Surface Pro 128GB... that took long enough.

Its' a bit thicker & heavier than I anticipated (I have a Surface RT which seems fine to me in both attributes), and it definitely gets a lot warmer than I expected.

But so far I like it, and haven't found the screen to be an issue. I even spent a lot of time using the desktop (installing apps) just using touch.

But... I sure wish I could use the pen for text input everywhere. Didn't the old Tablet XP version have some way to do pen-input? OneNote does an excellent job of turning my ink into text... why can't I pop up a blank space to write, the same way I can pop-up an on-screen keyboard? that would be pretty awesome, but I can't find any way (even as an add on utility) to do this.

Anyone?

cchristi42
on Feb 21, 2013

Not sure if your still looking, but you can change the keyboard layout, and one of the options is a pen to text converter.

This would mostly be used for writing though, not sure if that's exactly what your looking for.

pmbAustin
on Feb 22, 2013

Thanks! Yet another Windows 8 feature that is completely unintuitive until someone points it out at which point it's blindingly obvious :-)

efjay
on Feb 21, 2013

I think the vision of Windows 8 as the no compromise OS is hampered at this time by the hardware its running on, namely the CPU architecture. The current solutions for Windows 8 tablets are a compromise at both ends - Clovertrail lacks power and Ivy Bridge lacks endurance.

Within a year though with Intel's Haswell, Bay Trail and AMD's Temash we will be able to have devices that truly exploit Windows 8's vision of a no compromise device. Till that time I think Microsoft was definitely right to produce the Surface Pro and along with other devices like the Thinkpad Tablet 2 Windows 8 is at least as viable as any other tablet solution depending on your requirements. In a short time I think we will start to see devices that will truly be no compromise and will address the shortcomings we are seeing today.

WaltC
on Feb 21, 2013

It should be known and appreciated by all relevant parties: each time you mutter the incantation: "Post-PC" you are merely repeating the marketing jingoism of a specific company with a commercial ax to grind: Apple. Aside from marketing, the phrase has no evidential worth.

And that is why, after 27+ years, I still loathe laptops and believe that cell phones are best used to make telephone calls. And that is why they will have to pry my desktop from my cold, dead, fingers...;)

After a very brief stint decades ago working for a major Apple Computer VAR, I became "Post Apple," and my world has been that way ever since. I have never had occasion to do other than to rejoice at living in a post-Apple world. Highly recommended.

developer
on Feb 21, 2013

I think, casual computer users prefer to buy a 400€ tablet, than a 400€ laptop (or desktop), because tablets look easier to use than laptops.

This has ramifications. We get tablet-quality experience on our laptops/desktops.

For example, most web site pages are thin, graphical environments become tablet oriented (e.g. Windows 8, Ubuntu Unity (Linux), GNOME 3 Shell (Linux), OS X Launchbar), applications and games become tablet-oriented.

I think tablets create really a post-PC (or better called: post-Desktop) era, an era with the tablet experience, that does not take advantage the laptop/desktop additional abilities.

Where this leads, remains to be seen.

ccsturgi
on Feb 21, 2013

now this suggestion i am going to make would have been a huge undertaking, and maybe we arent ready for it yet.... but... windows RT should be windows and perhaps they are going there.

What they need to do with it is really boost remote computing for x86 style apps. Personally if remote desktop works well enough on RT (i havent had a chance to try it) i would be perfectly happy in that environment. I dont use my desktop at home for anything but using the web and storing my dvd collection. it is basically a web browsing media server to me.

The sooner we can have small ultra portable devices that have solid and secure remote computing capabilities the sooner we can completely split off the x86 side into a "server" and the RT side into the main device.

sorry if this got jumbled i tend to need a lot of editing to get my thoughts on paper well.

cchristi42
on Feb 21, 2013

I would guess that will be windows 9 or 10.

If you think about it, one of the major problems in both Windows ME and Windows Vista, were they didn't offer enough transition from the old to the new (more in terms of hardware, but also software to an extent)

If MS had just gone to windows RT for everything though, you would have seen a huge out cry as there really would be no apps at all for windows 8 on release. I would guess though over the next few years as MS Applications get updated they will be designed to take more advantage or the metro OS portion then the desktop portion.

GoAskMark
on Feb 21, 2013

As Graphic Designer I was really excited about the Pro. I looked forward to not lugging my 17 inch HP envy around. Alas finding out that the stylus doesn't support the Photoshop extra features yet really turned me off. The Employee at the Microsoft store did a real good job dodging my questions related to the adobe creative suite. I felt the lack of productivity right away with the ipad. It takes me 10 times as long to do something that would take me minutes to do in Photoshop...like just adding text to a photo to make a caption! Thats when i first saw its limits. The ipad is a good slot machine! No good slot machine apps in the win8 app store yet!

stumpy1570
on Feb 21, 2013

I think the comparison arguments miss the real point. I don't think the surface pro is trying to be anything other than what it is. It is a touchscreen slab that has an optional click on keyboard. Stop the comparison and see the true vision of a "surface". This device has the ability to be a main stream consumers only device. These people dont do high end video editing, or movies. They do exactly what this machine offers at a very good speed. The ONLY thing here is battery life and weight, which will be fixed in the next version. Remember when the ipad came out, remember the weight, now look. Buy the surface for what it is and will be. In my opinion a slab is the future, no compromise and I pray M$ doesn't hose it up.

---cheers

mikeh
on Feb 22, 2013

As usual, Paul, you're wrong all around.

Post-PC and PC plus are meaningless catchphrases that having little to do with reality.

When Apple says post PC they just mean that the era of PC centric computing in which it is the go to device for everything is over. They are right, even as a PC power user, I tend to reach for my smartphone when I just want to browse the web. Much easier to kick back on the couch or lie in bed with my smartphone than my laptop. Sometime I even grab my phone to look something up when my PC is right in front of me. Go figure.

So yes, for some people, perhaps even most people, post-pc is a reality. For people that only ever used their PCs for web browsing, email, facebook and silly flash games, post PC is indeed here.

Apple knows, however that clumsy touch screen devices will never replace PC for content creators, which is why they continue maintain the Mac as something different. It's why they continue to improve the Mac, and build upon it. Graphic designers, writers, web developers, programmers are not suddenly going to start doing all of these things with their fingers and clumsly, slow, on screen keyboards.

Microsoft's big mistake was not seeing that these two groups of users were inevitabley set to diverge. Convergance my ass. It's the opposite. The future is people who use tablets as their only device, and people who use tablets/smartphones as an accessory to their PC. Even people who initially thought the one device to rule them all with Windows 8 idea was great have started souring on the idea.

It just doesn't work.

And that's why windows 8 is such an unmitigated disaster. It tries to be all things to all people, and end up failing everyone. It's like politician trying to appeal to gay rights acitivists and conservative christians at the same time, and ends up getting the votes of neither.

pthurrott
on Feb 23, 2013

Thanks Mike. Unclear how this contradicts what I wrote, but it's always nice to see people who can't stand me spending time on my site.

anonymous coward
on Feb 22, 2013

sounds like a market opportunity for a simple add-in. Just redirect the file associations for *.pdf, *.avi, *.mp3, and whatever to an app which checks whether Metro or Desktop mode is active, and then redirects to the appropriate handler for that display mode.

kristalsoldier
on Feb 23, 2013

In part I agree with Paul's assessment. My work - that what I do for which I am paid - is that of a research-centric academic. This involves substantial amounts of reading, writing, working on the internet etc. For leisure, I watch movies, listen to music - like most folks. Not too much into photos though. My current kit profile includes the following: A ThinkPad T400 (which I have had for a while running Win 7 Pro), a Nexus 10, a very old Samsung Galaxy 5850 smartphone and the most recent addition, a Surface RT. I have found the Surface RT has replaced my carrying around the ThinkPad for the most part which remains at home hooked up to my external monitor. I use the Nexus for reading, that is to say, for reference reading, for Skype, and for watching movies (for the times when I don't use the external monitor), I use the phone for tethering (when required which is quite rare nowadays since I seem to be enmeshed by wifi networks most of the time), for music, and for calling etc. The Surface RT I use - as I mentioned earlier - to carry around with me when I am at my place of employment and at sundry places like coffee shops, libraries etc. principally to create documents and to edit previously created documents. Having the Type cover and Office helps for obvious reasons. I have found that I rarely use the Surface as a "tablet" per se. The Nexus fulfils that role. In effect, therefore, I find myself carrying three devices at all times - the phone, the Nexus and the Surface. Would I leave my house with only the phone and one other device? Yes, before the Surface showed up, that is precisely what I used to do - take the phone and the Nexus with me. But I found myself consuming more than creating. With the Surface, I find myself doing both - more of creating, if you ask me. Can I see myself taking only the phone and the Surface? Possibly, but the whole reason I take the Nexus along is because I need it for reference in the same way as I would use a physical, that is to say, a paper book (and no, the Kindle and its likes would not work - I have tried). The point to note that this is not so much about the Nexus, but the need for a second large screen (alternatively a third screen, if you include the phone). So, what does this say about where I am in the Post-PC and/ or PC+ world? If you ask me, I think I remain within what is best described as the PC+ space albeit an increasingly interesting one.

pthurrott
on Feb 23, 2013

Labels are convenient because they help us quickly identify something ("post-PC era") that might otherwise be hard/lengthy to describe. But they're also generalities, and the origins of these terms speaks volumes to the creators. Macs have never amounted to much, market share wise, but Apple's devices are on fire, so Apple sees a post-PC world. Microsoft naturally sees things differently and wishes to move the PC forward. In some ways, they're both "right." Which was my point.

(On a related note, as a company that makes mostly web-based services, Google sees everything through that lens. So its products and services are always made with the assumption that you'll be online. Hammer meet nail.)

kristalsoldier
on Feb 23, 2013

I'd agree and I was not really contesting your point. I was trying to work out where - given these two generic labels - I could or would locate myself (given my kit profile and usage). I also understand the Google perspective grounded on the assumption that an individual is always online. While that is currently true in my case (and I do use - aside from the Nexus - a number of Google's services), it is not always the case when I am traveling and spending time in various parts of the world (often in Asia). At those times, I find Google's model (if it can be called so) failing me and I turn to my HDDs for support which, tangentially, reinforces my decision about buying into the Surface given its local storage possibilities. This is also why I tend to think in terms of PC+ rather than on Post-PC terms at the moment. But who knows, as the situation changes, so would my thinking on this matter!

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