Going Pro: Surface Pen

With Surface Pen, it's 2002 all over again

With years of Tablet PC experience behind me, using the Surface with Windows 8 Pro's new Surface Pen is like going back in time. It looks and works identically to the pens that PC makers used to provide with Tablet PCs over a decade ago, and it's unclear where there's anything but a niche market for such an accessory. That said, those who need such a thing should be excited by the capabilities of Surface Pen.

In fact, Surface Pen, combined with related hardware built into Surface Pro, is arguably one of the key differentiators between this device and Surface RT, not to mention many other touch-based Windows 8/RT devices. If you're not familiar with this type of accessory, the short version of the story goes like this...

In the early 2000s, Microsoft developed an offshoot of Windows XP called Windows XP Tablet PC Edition that was designed for a then-new breed of PCs called Tablet PCs. These Tablet PCs came in two form factors, convertible laptops, with featured screens that could be used in normal laptop mode or flipped around and used like a tablet, and slates, which were “pure” tablet devices that relied on a pen, or stylus, and could be docked for use with a keyboard and mouse. (And if you’re shaking your head in wonderment at the similarities between 2002 and today, you’re not alone: As I wrote in Tablet PC Redux?, the parallels are pretty amazing.)

Tablet PCs never took off in the market, despite the personal backing of Microsoft’s over-rated founder, Bill Gates, and subsequent generations of the software—like Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005—and new generations of hardware that solved the battery life and portability issues of the originals. I used just about every single Tablet PC ever created, and I never really warmed to the designs, though I appreciated Microsoft’s amazing technical achievements in handwriting recognition and the use of handwriting as a first-class data type (that is, it didn’t need to be translated to text to be searched). There just wasn’t a volume market for these devices.

Flash forward to 2010 and the release of the iPad, which touched off (sorry) the current market for what we sometimes called media tablets. The iPad and its ilk are dumber but simpler than Tablet PCs, and that’s why they’ve resonated with consumers, which are buying them up by the tens of millions each year. But as Tablet PC purists will tell you, the iPad’s finger-based controls are like finger painting compared to the amazing accuracy you get with a Tablet PC pen, which offers pressure-sensitive control good enough for creating the finest (simulated) oil painting. Plus all that amazing handwriting stuff.

With the release of Windows 8 and Surface Pro, Microsoft and its partners are running down the Tablet PC rabbit hole once again. This device offers a standard Tablet PC pen, just like the ones we used years ago, albeit with even better specs and accuracy. But it’s sort of amazing how what’s old is new again: Some of the interfaces you use for the Pen are straight out of that original Tablet PC software from 2002.

So what’s the difference between Surface Pro and Surface RT, which supports something called a capacitive pen, which is really just a cute word for something that looks sort of like a pen but is in fact really just a slightly more accurate replacement for your fingertip. When Surface RT first arrived, I picked up a cheap capacitive pen for testing, and while some may scoff at this kind of thing, I will admit that it is actually pretty helpful for tapping on small on-screen targets—especially on the desktop—that would otherwise be hard to hit with a finger.

Capacitive pens will work with any touch-enabled Windows 8 or RT device; they don’t require a special screen or any additional technology. But they are of course limited in use. You don’t get different levels of pressure and the accuracy is only a bit better than using your finger (and probably no better if you’re a small child).

Surface Pro, meanwhile, includes a special digitizer in the screen that enables the use of an electromagnetic pen. Microsoft goes to great lengths to explain why this is so amazing and thin and so on, but the point is that this digitizer is essentially a modern version of what was included in all Tablet PCs a decade ago. (The screen is also better than RT’s in other ways. For example, it supports 10 touch points compared to 5 for Surface RT.)

Surface Pro also comes with Surface Pen. This is an electromagnetic stylus that supports an astonishing 1024 pressure levels, meaning that the system can understand that many variances in how hard you are pushing down on the screen. In writing apps like OneNote, that means thick and thin lines. But this capability really matters in drawing and painting apps where you can really emulate real-world artist tools such as pens, paintbrushes, and so on. Surface Pen also has an “eraser,” a soft top that can be used to erase on-screen lines and a right-click button on its barrel. (It’s easier to tap and hold to get the right-click action, however, just as you would with touch.)

Surface Pen also includes a unique magnetic latch that lets you “clip” the pen to the side of the Surface, using the power supply connector. This works OK, I guess, but it has a couple of ramifications. First, it means you can’t connect the power supply and pen at the same time. And second, it means there is no way to insert the pen into Surface Pro, as is the case on virtually all other Tablet PCs (and Windows 8-era devices with electromagnetic pens, including the Samsung ATIV Smart PC Pro 700T). So you’re going to lose this pen. It’s just a matter of time.

In use, the Surface Pen is like a blast from the past. Literally. There are old-school Pen and Touch and Tablet PC Settings control panels for configuring the pen and screen for the pen, and it’s like stepping back in time.

But there is some new stuff. Surface Pro supports an advanced palm-blocking feature that really works. As the pen gets close to the screen—say, about an inch away—the screen detects its presence and assume you want to use the pen. So it turns off multi-touch, thus eliminating false taps and gestures generated by your hand. What this means is that you can write or draw with Surface Pen naturally on Surface Pro without worrying about your hands messing things up.

Surface Pen of course works in handwriting-capable apps (and applications) such as OneNote, though I rarely use it for such work since I can type much faster than I can write. (And more accurately: My handwriting deteriorates very quickly these days.) It also works great in Metro-style painting apps such as Fresh Paint, and it is here that the pen has gotten the most use. Not by me—I think these pens are borderline useless for my needs—but by my 11-year-old daughter, who quickly realized that Surface Pro + Surface Pen was about a million times more amazing than her mother’s Samsung Galaxy Note II (which also includes a pen). Ah, children.

Some tech enthusiasts have complained that Surface Pro does not support third party applications such as Photoshop directly, because they require third party APIs. This means that you can’t use the pressure sensitivity of the Surface Pen with such apps, yet, which is true, though Microsoft says it is working with Adobe to make that happen.

When that capability is available, one secret use of Surface Pro + Surface Pen will become all the more valuable. You see, you can of course dock Surface Pro with desktop components as I’ve described earlier in this series, using, among other things, a large desktop display. And in this mode, you can do such things as disable the Surface Pro screen and use only the large desktop display. In this mode, however, you can still write on the Surface Pro screen with Surface Pen. That’s right: Surface Pro is basically the largest and most accurate Wacom-style drawing tablet you can get, and those artists, architects, and others who need this capability will be amazed by this.

Surface Pen can also of course be used as a pointing device, so you can use it to select small items on screen easily, navigate through the UI, and so forth. Here, the right-click button becomes more helpful, though again tap-and-hold works better in my experience. This, again, is just like Tablet PC days, and the File Explorer on Surface Pro adopts the “check boxes” in the file views as we used to see on XP Tablet PC, as well as the “left-handed” pop-up menus that are designed to be viewable when accessed via touch or pen. (They appear on the left, rather than the right, and lefties can configure them to do the opposite.)

Overall, Surface Pen is a familiar tool for Tablet PC fans, and a nice addition for those who never owned such a machine. I’ll never personally use it, but I spend most of my time typing, not drawing or writing. For those who need such a thing, the combination of Surface Pro and Surface Pen will be very enticing indeed.

Discuss this Article 73

Kentc
on Feb 19, 2013

"... of Microsoft's over-rated founder, Bill Gates,..." Are you kidding me?! How would you define a properly-rated founder? The creater of WinSupersite?

pthurrott
on Feb 19, 2013

Don't be a dick. Everyone thinks of Gates as some kind of tech god, but the truth is he's just a savvy, ruthless businessman. He would have been successful at anything.

InfoDave
on Feb 19, 2013

Wow, spot on! I thought I was the only one who thought Bill Gates was a businessman, not a technologist.

navarac
on Feb 19, 2013

....savvy, ruthless businessman..... is right. There was no real need to insert the word "overated" in the article though. No need to be rude......

Rishicash
on Feb 19, 2013

I'm with you Paul. And I'm surprised I haven't before read about him being overrated, which I must say the same of Steve Balmer.

jeffkibuule
on Feb 19, 2013

It's really hard to call the richest man in the world "overrated" and maintain some type of credibility Paul.

pthurrott
on Feb 19, 2013

OK.

So, this isn't about Bill Gates. No offense, but I don't really care what anyone else thinks about him. I've been doing this for 20 years and have my own perspective on it. Time to move on.

Rishicash
on Feb 21, 2013

Re-read Paul's comment. He said he thinks that Bill is overrated as a innovator or techie not as a businessman. Paul didn't say Bill isn't innovative or technologically adept, he merely said he is overrated and I agree.

BrickEngraver
on Feb 20, 2013

I really believe you are correct about Bill Gates not being a tech visionary, and being a ruthless businessman. And a very savvy businessman at that. Overrated as a innovator or techie, but one thing he did do way back when the PC came out was to bring licensing software to the business in a big way. If I remember correctly IBM in one of the biggest blunders of tech history agreed to the licensing model instead of outright purchase. That was the brilliant business move that Gates made. and what made him and a lot of other people billions. He found a way to make real money by selling SOFTWARE to the masses. For with the licensing model, he was essentially free to license to everyone and did and became the defacto standard for PC operating systems. Sure it might have been an inferior OS, but it pretty much became the only system.

And then there is the other Bill Gates, the humanitarian.He (and especially his wife) cannot ever be called "overrated" and are true visionaries in the solving some of the really big problems with which all humanity is faced. Maybe that came from marrying a good woman and reading good literature and simply getting more mature. But in my opinion the Bill Gates of today is not the same overrated tech innovator and ruthless CEO of the past.

Bobby Cannon
on Feb 19, 2013

I love my Surface Pro pen. I have an RT but missed my pen too much. It's why I purchased the Pro. It's great for brain storming ideas!

Bobby Cannon
on Feb 19, 2013

Oh and I forgot to mention that the Pen + OneNote is the killer Surface must have combo. It's pure win!

Andygoes
on Feb 19, 2013

Paul, I've heard and read you commenting on your large hands and small devices. Same situation here - any comments on the size of the pen itself? Comfortable to use with your big hands? Is the button placed conveniently?

pthurrott
on Feb 19, 2013

Yes, the pen is fine. It's ... pen-sized. On some devices, like the Samsung ATIV Smart PC Pro 700T, the pen is tiny. This one works well.

nztjbv
on Feb 19, 2013

I have a Surface Pro pre-order from MS Store. I'm unclear as to whether or not I can use the Surface tablet to control my desktop PC monitor with the pen on my Surface. I have your Windows 8 Secrets book and am hoping to see an addendum or a Surface Pro book. The book by the way has been very helpful.

pthurrott
on Feb 19, 2013

Thanks. Yes, you can do that.

Glokta the nefarious
on Feb 19, 2013

"Microsoft’s over-rated founder, Bill Gates" Funny he always speaks so highly of you.

pthurrott
on Feb 19, 2013

Sigh.

He's over-rated, sorry. If you don't get that, you don't know what he's all about. This is the guy who drove Microsoft into the hole it's now in, the one that everyone blames Ballmer for. All that belligerent behavior around the US antitrust trial? Gates? Late to the Internet? Gates. Tablet PC? Gates. He's a businessman, not a tech God. Sorry to burst your bubble.

nztjbv
on Feb 19, 2013

Steve Ballmer's management approach has been and is focused on continuous product improvement. Windows 8 I believe will in time benefit from his development approach. I think Steve Ballmer's only sin is his lack of charisma. Aside from that he's getting a bad rap.

CaptainStack
on Feb 19, 2013

Paul, I'd be very interested in reading a whole article about why you think Gates is so overrated and maybe doing a side-by-side comparison to Ballmer. I think Ballmer takes way too much flak for how he's run the company and I do think the success and failures of Bill Gates are misunderstood too. Any chance you'd write such an article, or perhaps already have?

pthurrott
on Feb 19, 2013

No, I'm way more interested in products than people.

mebby
on Feb 19, 2013

My view of Bill Gates that he was a tech geek but a poor business person. Yes he had some ruthless qualities to secure market share but he also lacked vision to see the big picture of delivery quality tech products that would sustain a market.

saqrkh
on Feb 19, 2013

I've used the Pro at work as though it were my work PC, but the pen definitely let me go a few steps further by almost replacing pen and paper. I've basically used OneNote and the pen to take notes during meetings, check-ins, jotting lists, etc. It's also been useful in annotating creative materials without having me to print and scan, or print and submit the hardcopy to someone in another building.

BlueMan
on Feb 19, 2013

On a backward compatibility note, these pens haven't changed much over the years (the smarts is in the digitizer itself after all). I still have pens around from my old, and long gone, Toshiba and Compaq Tablet PCs that continue to work just great. Which means a) I don't have to worry about losing the Surface Pro pen and b) I keep way to much old crap around (that Compaq pen is from the gen-1 Compaq Slate).

bsquarednc
on Feb 19, 2013

I always find it hard to believe how overlooked the value of inking is....pen + OneNote is absolutely incredible. Inking up Office docs is also quite awesome. And now that OneNote in Windows Phone 8 displays ink, it just went to another level.

LOVE MY SURFACE PRO!!!

Suckleague
on Feb 19, 2013

How does it work in Office, does it create actual text or some kind of shape object?

bsquarednc
on Feb 19, 2013

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention how I have my tablet set up....

My Surface Pro sits on my desk and I use it for note taking during various activities. Since I have OneNote on SkyDrive, the notes I take pretty instantaneously show up on OneNote on my desktop setup (Dell desktop running Win 8 w/ two 24" Dell monitors). It' brilliant...before SkyDrive, this was an absolute pain.

Yuxie
on Feb 19, 2013

Now the question is:
How does it comepare to competitors' pens? (ThinkPad Tablet 2 Pen?)
and How does ti compare to a real pen on paper?

GMTDev
on Mar 6, 2013

It is the Wacom pen, so it compares very well.

Murray
on Feb 19, 2013

http://www.wacom.com/en/products/pen-displays/cintiq/cintiq-24hd is probably the biggest most accurate Wacom you can get. But this still intrigues me.

beelzebubbles
on Feb 19, 2013

Paul,
When I lose my Surface pro pen, can I replace it with any Wacom-enable one?
Have you seen any apps that emulate writing on a legal pad where the handwritten entry can fill the page (instead of gobbling up handwriting and regurgitating it as typed text)? It would be a killer app for writers and note-takers. Fascinating article... thanks.

SvenJ
on Feb 19, 2013

Yes

Journal & OneNote to start.

M@
on Feb 19, 2013

Hey there,

I've tested out some Wacom pens with the Pro, and I've found that the Intuous 3 and 4 pens do NOT work...however from what a Microsoft store employee told me when I was testing those is that the Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel DOES work with the Pro.

Product site can be found here: http://www.wacom.com/en/products/stylus/bamboo-stylus-feel

I'm looking forward to grabbing one of these myself. Hope this helps.

prettyconfusd
on Feb 19, 2013

While it is still Wacom technology in the digitiser screen and pen, the stand-alone tablets such as the Intuos line use different technology.

There's some great pens about though, I managed to get one from eBay that's pretty similar to the Intuos 4 pen, it's called the Axiotron "Studio" pen but they're quite difficult to track down nowadays.

That's my preferred pen but Wacom do sell some 'penabled' of 'Wacom Feel' (I think that's the new branding) but they don't all have erasers on the end.

This page is a little out of date but it shows a list of compatible pens:
http://www.wacom-asia.com/aptky/607/pen.htm

If people are more interested in this tech and using the slates, the Samsung and ASUS EeeSlate sections are amazing resources as they're full of users who've been using these modern tablets/slates and know plenty of tricks.

(Such as how you can install drivers that allow Photoshop to work perfectly, it just messes up some other apps)

Check it out: http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/samsung/

eric.alpern@gma...
on Feb 19, 2013

Paul,
What do you think the chances are that the next generation RT will have 10 touch points vs. 5? And thus have the better pen.

BlueMan
on Feb 20, 2013

It isn't the number of touch points that allow for the "better pen". In fact there is a completely separate set of technology at play.

The Surface RT (and others like the iPad) uses a capacitive touch screen which uses changes in an electric field to determine if it is being touched. They are extremely easy to use by not very accurate.

The Tablet PC contains a digitizer which works only in conjunction with a specialized pen. These digitizers cannot recognize human touch or capacitive pens. Although you require special hardware (the pen), they are extremely accurate.

The Surface Pro (and some others like the ASUS EeeSlate) contain both a digitizer and a capacitive touch screen. This is how it is able to achieve both multi-touch and pen computing in a single device.

Suckleague
on Feb 19, 2013

Does it work in Word and Excel?

SvenJ
on Feb 20, 2013

Yes, but this requires more of an answer than that. For what you are likely thinking, you want to bring up the keyboard, select the handwriting input panel, and write there. That recognizes handwriting/printing and inserts the text at the cursor in the application. This works very well in portrait on the Surface, as nearly a full size screen is left above the input panel.

Some programs, like OneNote, let you 'ink', like writing on a pad with a pen, and will recognize the handwriting in the background. This lets you do a text search on what appears to be handwritten notes.

Turbo
on Feb 19, 2013

I'm actually finding that I use the pen quite often when in desktop mode! I use it as a mouse to select and move items. The right-click functionality is much easier than touch-and-hold. You just hold the button and touch the item and the right-click menu appears.

tboggs13
on Feb 19, 2013

It might be a niche market, but based on the number of iPad users I have seen trying to use pens, I think it is something to be desired.

I was surprised to see a very large selection of pens for iPad at Fry's. Of course this may just be the latest fashion accessory.

eric.alpern@gma...
on Feb 19, 2013

what do you think the chances of the next generation Surface RT getting 10 touch points vs. 5? It would be nice to be able to use the better pen, giving you a better experience with the device.

SvenJ
on Feb 19, 2013

Let me give you the silver lining to no pen silo. When you lose the pen, you can buy any wacom penenabled pen you want. You are not driven to get the overpriced, hard to find, replacement that fits the silo (as I have done for HP and Toshiba pens in the Tablet PC days). If you like nice pens, you can even get a nice one made by Cross, without the nagging thought in the background, but it won't fit in the silo. I actually like the pen that came with my HP TX2000 better as the right click button is flush, rather than sticking out and rough.

M@
on Feb 19, 2013

Hey there, SvenJ:

Are there other pens than the Wacom bamboo stylus feel that you've found to work? Maybe the Cintiq pens? It seems the "Pen-enabled" designation does apply to Cintiq from what I can see, but I'm not sure if any old Wacom pen would work.

I've tried the intuous 3 and 4 pens on the Pro and they do NOT work...so I'm just curious if there're more than the Bamboo stylus Feel pens that are known to work.

Thanks!

SvenJ
on Feb 19, 2013

The ones from my HP TX2000 do. One looks like this, http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HP-Touchsmart-Stylus-Pen-460657-001-TX2000-T.... Note that HP also uses N-Trig in some of their slates, like the Slate 500. That pen doesn't. I have an ancient Toshiba Satellite (XP Tablet Edition) and that stylus works fine. I would think if it specifically says penabled(R) it should work. I didn't see the Cintiq stuff referencing penabled(R), just "Wacom's patented, professional pen technology"

SvenJ
on Feb 19, 2013

Noting that Paul mentioned he got a cheap stylus for the RT, I just want to mention that there are differences in Stylii for capacitive screens. You can get some that are like dragging a pencil eraser over glass, and others that are like using smooth, though fat, roller ball. Price does seem to play a part, but I have had some luck with inexpensive ones. I can recommend the Targus ones found at office stores and BB, and those by Bamboo. The latter are a bit pricey, but have some class. Targus ones can be found with regular pens and even laser pointers integrated.

My wife really likes using a stylus on her iPhone and iPad. It doesn't smudge up the glass, and fingernails don't get in the way.

AlexKven
on Feb 19, 2013

This pen is amazing. And it actually comes with the Surface Pro, which is also amazing! I wonder how that happened. They decide to take a bunch of photos of the Surface with the keyboard, then sell the surface for an arm and a leg, and sell the keyboard SEPARATELY for another arm and a leg. I guess they had to include the pen because after spending two arms and two legs on the main package, you would not have any limbs left for the pen.

But the pen is simply amazing. It is perfect for general use on the desktop, because you can touch small onscreen elements easily, which is a very big deal.

SvenJ
on Feb 19, 2013

I think the cynical part of me says, they figured you would naturally buy the keyboard, but no-one would spring for the pen, making the extra effort to put in a digitizer irrelevent.

BrickEngraver
on Feb 19, 2013

I am a big POB fan (Patrick O'Brian-Aubrey Maturin Series) and subscribe to a mailing list of other POB fans. Well posted I had a surface on order and was kind of looking forward to seeing how it was going to work out. One of the ladies on there said a friend of hers bought three just as a replacement for a Cintiq as they were artists. So it at least sold three for them as those guys were probably all Apple people. Can you use it on a whiteboard application such as in Lync?

Heavyhanded
on Feb 19, 2013

Nice write-up, Paul. As an educator at a college, I've loved using my old Motion Computing tablet PCs as a virtual whiteboard. Active Digitizers are great! QUESTION: How many level of pressure does the surface pen support? 256? 512? It may not mean much to you but to others it does.

pthurrott
on Feb 19, 2013

Thanks... It supports 1024 pressure levels.

prettyconfusd
on Feb 19, 2013

Regarding Photoshop, this isn't actually a new thing.

This was an issue in Windows 7 too, but Sketchbook Pro and a bunch of other art programs work fine with the built in drivers. The only trouble I’ve had is with the Adobe suite (Photoshop) and there are drivers out there that enable proper support for those programs but unfortunately they ruin support in everything else.

It’s always seemed to me to be Adobe’s problem for using non-standard OS drivers rather than Microsoft or Wacom’s to try and fix. I don’t know the technical ins and outs but that’s my experience over the past two years.

On Windows 7 I would just disable touch and install the drivers, use Photoshop, then uninstall the drivers and enable touch. With Windows 8 there's no simple way to disable touch so my current setup is:

A main Windows 8 partition that uses the built in drivers and I can use my pen fine in OneNote, Sketchbook Pro, and pretty much every other penabled app out there.

I then also have a Windows 7 partition with only Photoshop installed and capacitive touch disabled so I just boot into that when I need to do some major Photoshopping.

It's a pain but it works fine. I'm looking forward to Microsoft, Adobe, and Wacom to sorting this out. I do think it's Adobe's fault for using non-standard drivers though. I think when the technology is only used on Windows it might be an idea for them to use the Windows drivers rather than implement their own...

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