It’s Time to Bring Back NT

Windows NT meant something. It still can

If Microsoft is serious about fixing Windows 8 and preventing not just another Vista but a full-fledged revolt and exodus to other platforms, then it’s going to have to take some bold steps. And the first thing it should do is bring back NT.

Tech old-timers like myself fondly remember Windows NT and all it stood for. And they remember when the marketing group in Windows exorcised the NT brand, deciding that the Windows brand was both more important and more resonant with users. They were wrong on both counts. And while the resulting product, Windows 2000, with the redundant tagline “Built on NT technology,” was certainly solid enough for its day, it always left a sour taste in my mouth.

Times change, I get it. But when you examine the client versions of Windows NT you see a product that in its broad strokes has great relevance today in this new highly mobile computing world. NT was designed for workstations where Windows was for PCs. And it was aimed at power users, IT pros, and developers who preferred its power, stability, and reliability over the compatibility and relative performance of the shaky Windows 3.x/9x products of the day.

Today, Windows 8 is a hybrid OS that seeks to serve both tablets and other highly mobile devices as well as traditional PCs. But because Windows 8 includes both Metro and traditional desktop interfaces, it is optimized for neither, and is the opposite of Microsoft’s “no compromises” promise. The people who can’t stand Windows 8 are the same that used to gravitate to NT, power users, IT pros, and developers, and they would have happy-ecstatic, really—to give up the Fisher Price silliness of Metro for a desktop-only version of Windows 8 that is actually optimized for the hardware they really use.

It should be called Windows NT.

It’s time to bring back NT, both as a brand and a product, and to attach this name to a version of Windows where it will once again make sense. Windows 8/9/whatever can move forward to whatever tablet/hybrid/device future that Microsoft sees as the future of computing. And Windows NT can be the “truck,” the OS for those of us who really need to get work done.

Folks, this makes sense on more levels than you may realize.

Consider the needs of enterprises that are trying to blast remote desktops to thin clients or PCs over their internal infrastructure or the Internet. What system would be better for such clients? Windows NT would employ the Aero-less Windows 8 desktop and none of the frou-frou Metro touchiness that makes no sense in such environments.

Consider the typical business in which dozens to thousands of traditional PCs are already deployed. An upgrade to Windows NT would give them all of the security, reliability and performance benefits of Windows 8 with none of the Metro interfaces that would confuse users, require training, and be almost universally unsuitable for both those machines and for the work their users need to complete.

On and on it goes. And the reason the NT name is so important is that this name means something, and can still mean the same thing, just projected forward to a new generation of computing. Businesses would know that they can rely on NT and consumers could choose between NT and Windows, depending on their needs and their device/PC choices. NT could be installed on Windows computers and devices, and vice versa. Heck, you could treat the Metro stuff as an add-on even, much as Windows Server treats the desktop experience as an add-on today.

It’s time to bring back NT. This name, this brand, still means something. Something positive, something good. Something that’s necessary to remind customers that Microsoft hasn’t forgotten about the doers in its mad rush to satisfy the fat content consumers who only care about playing Wordament and checking Facebook with their fingers. This silliness needs to stop. And NT is the answer.

Discuss this Article 115

PC509
on Mar 12, 2013

I have to agree. Windows 8 is fine for hybrids and touchscreens. But, as an IT professional, I don't need all that fluff. I need a workhorse.

Even a GPO that allows a 'classic' mode would be fine for me. I want a workstation that I can work at. Multiple windows, multiple screens (and YES, I am one of those few that can click the start menu and still multitask with a window that is open behind it). Windows 8 does not allow me to do this easily.

moroboshi
on Mar 12, 2013

I went into Windows 8 (having used every previous version of Windows since 95) with an open mind, and being a fan of the Metro design language. I soon began to hate it though. The mix of two entirely different operating systems just doesn't work.

Fortunately it can be mostly fixed through apps like Modern Mix and any of the numerous start menu replacements. (which also allow Win 8 to boot straight to the desktop)

Microsoft could largely make the hatred of 8 go away by simply implementing the functionality of these utilities directly into the OS. That would mean desktop users rarely see the pure Metro stuff, but that's as it should be, as it doesn't work on desktops.

I also dabble with Macs from time to time a little, and I have to say, as a desktop power user, Mac OS is now vastly superior to Windows 8 out of the box. It's a proper computer operating system for people who want to get work done, as Windows used to be. Apple's strategy of two different OSs simply makes a lot more sense than the muddled mess Microsoft are perusing.

kevin@live
on Mar 12, 2013

Bring back NT? how many versions of Windows do you think that the market place can absorb. Some people are still using 98SE for goodness sake. Ah the memories of playing Command and Conquer.

There is nothing in Win 8 that cannot be reimaged for so called corporate use. I have no problems with MS offering a corporate version of Win 8 that will allow owners to modify content to the start screen to stop workers wasting time being reminded that there are updates to their calendar, email account etc.

Corporations can in any case develop and port their own applications directly to the Start Screen. Perhaps MS needs to develop templates to make such applications easier to port.

Windows is already too differentiated to support another flavour, already developers are reluctant to develop their existing or new Apps to Win 8 let alone hardware suppliers developing new drivers for yet another version of Windows.

MS's stated aim is to make the Windows experience common across all platforms, PC, Laptop, Tablet and Phone and what ever other new devices are developed. Not all devices currently have touch enabled interfaces but the humble mouse still works well enough and more enhanced devices are now coming on the market.

The Windows Store and included Apps are still "rough" and limited but the business model is good, just look at Apple and Google's revenues. I don't mind being restricted to an eco system that only allows safe downloading of Apps, have had my share of problems with OEM and other App providers in the past.

Just a thought though, is it time for MS to abandon MS Windows and welcome in MS Tiles as the name for their operating system.

bournet
on Mar 12, 2013

I upgraded to Windows 8 Pro over the Christmas break and have been using it exclusively ever since. I'm a software developer - I have 3 screens - and I simply do not understand why Windows 8 on a traditional desktop receives so much bad press. It just works. It's easily AS good as Windows 7 was - and for any "power user" out there that claims it takes longer to do something then clearly they're not really a "power user" used to keyboard shortcuts and setting up their machine for the most efficient day to day use.

Yes - currently Metro (I'm always going to call it that) just sucks - but it only sucks due to the complete lack of apps. Everyone writing apps just seems to use the boiler plate template that comes with Visual Studio 2012 - and as a result there's just a bunch of rubbish clone apps that all look the same.

Even Microsoft's own apps are rubbish - but as with iOS - over time these will hopefully get better and as other companies try to differentiate themselves and spend time on funky decent UI's then this Metro experience will hopefully get better. That being said - they probably will never really have a place on a desktop PC (Although the Plex Windows 8 App is very very good - and I'm coming around to Skype docked on the side of my desktop). Give this space time.

Power Users never will use Metro Mail / Calendar / Contacts etc. etc. - we're all entrenched in Outlook or some other full featured desktop equivalent so lets just stop complaining about them. For Grandmas / Non Techie people - these apps are likely just as useful as those found on other tablets.

I'd be very interested to hear from power users who have made the leap to 8 as to exactly why they think 8 makes them any less productive - Paul included.

aras
on Mar 13, 2013

Why Windows 8 makes me less productive? I'm sysadmin, I normally work with 3 large monitor setup. Almost never have any full screen applications open. During working day I constantly open and close large number of little tools and utilities, way too many to pin them all to the taskbar. In Windows 7, when I need another tool opened I press Win key, type few letters, press Enter, done. All this without taking my eyes from what I'm currently working on.
In Windows 8, in theory I could do the same. And believe me I tried! But having all my work on whole monitor covered by a full screen application launcher is unbelievable distracting.
I gave Windows 8 start screen a good run for couple of weeks. It just doesn't work for me, sorry. I installed Start8 and Windows 8 is fixed for me! I really don't care if people say that this is clinging to the past or not embarrassing future. I will use what works for me and what helps to get my job dob done.

But Microsoft is in trouble with Windows 8 for another reason. I don't want even start about all these poor non tech users I've seen who are confused as hell by all this stupid Windows dual nature. One young couple recently asked me to install "proper" Windows, because they hated Metro versions of Skype and IE, and had no idea that you can actually still download and use normal desktop versions!

dwhyatt
on Mar 13, 2013

I've worked in and around IT for over 28 years in both large enterprises and my own small business, so I guess that makes me an "IT pro" of sorts. However, from what I am about to say, you may feel a little squeamish about this classification.

I like Windows 8.

I like Windows 8 on my non-touch laptop, I like it on my desktop with 23" display, and I like it on my non-touch laptop connected to a non-touch 24" display. I like it at home, and I like it at work.

At work, I exclusively use the desktop when working. But I also take a break occasionally and enjoy the exquisite design and typography of Metro apps when I read the news, a book, or Wikipedia. The absence of skeuomorphism and needless chrome is surprisingly refreshing.

I don't really miss the Start button on the desktop because I pin frequently used applications to the task bar. When I do need to dig around for a rarely used program, I prefer the flat scrolling presentation of the Start screen to the hierarchical nesting used by the former Start button. For system configuration and administration, the right-button menu in the bottom left corner is considerably more coherent and convenient for me than the variety of locations in previous versions of Windows.

As an amateur photographer with an appreciation for the visual aesthetic, I like the automatic matching of window border colour to wallpaper. But from a functional perspective, I also like the improvements made to file copy and Task Manager, and the addition of usage metering for mobile data connections.

I don’t seem to be affected by the “boot-to-desktop problem”. I mostly hibernate, so I rarely boot or perform a login to my machines. On the infrequent occasions that I do, I access the desktop (assuming that I want to) by one extra press of the Enter key after entering my password. (Put the desktop tile in the top left position.) If I did this often enough, I’m sure it would become muscle memory long before becoming a problem.

Is Windows 8 perfect? Of course not. I, like Paul and many others, am waiting eagerly for improved resolution independence on a per-display basis. And the price of Windows 8 Pro from the Microsoft Store here in Australia is extortionate ($399!).

So there you have it. Feeling better yet...?

teqi
on Mar 13, 2013

As a former Microsoft employee that work on the original NT with Dave Cutler, I could not agree more. Give us back a real tech OS with a true microkernel architecture, let the hal (hardware abstraction layer) do its job and move the gui. Windows 8 is crap and we all know it, sure it has some cool new features but it looks like it was designed for a total newbie and not a long time windows user, and most of the crap they added on to 8 has little or no use in the corporate market which is where Microsoft earns its bread and butter in the OS market. What keeps windows alive is the technical user that drove so many of the core evolution of the product in the old days. Give us back something stable and fast, no full of bloatware. Oh, and remember that object oriented file system that Bill promised us back in like 1995, what the hell ever happened to that? Also time and time again Microsoft has experimented with multiple os's and/or on multiple chip platforms, remember NT on DEC Alpha, or MIPS? Now we have RT, and this is only a few of the many, many examples and yet in every case Microsoft failed to deliver. I hope they get it together someday and find out what people in the real world want, not what the lab monkeys dream up.

dot19408
on Mar 13, 2013

It looks like not too many people are GETTING your point...

Paul is not talking about going back to 1995 version 3.5 of Windows NT. He's talking about bringing back the "NT" BRAND...

I agree, this would be a perfect way to get the enterprise market to buy in.
Drop the Metro (yeah, I know. No, I don't care, it's METRO.) start screen, work-flow killer, and bring back the START BUTTON.

Allow all the Metro-y New-Age crap to run in... I don't know... WINDOWS?

It may be that only the Gray-Beards know what NT is, but we are the ones who approve the spending on this stuff.

We skipped Vista because we couldn't stand the smell.
We embraced 7 because it was stable, efficient, and drivers were SOLID.
We're skipping 8 because training would be too much trouble/cost, and we are not going to license a hack utility to bring back previous functionality.

WaltC
on Mar 13, 2013

I remember NT clearly. It was a promise unrealized entirely until Vista/Windows 7, imo (Windows 7 is pretty much Vista 2.0, with much, much better hardware drivers.) But I'm with you--let's bring back the NT/Win7 spirit--and let tablets fall where they may.

I think that Windows 8 as it sits is probably far worse than Vista (recall that Vista was never discounted to the extremes we've seen for Win8.) I liked Vista (I bought Ultimate) and I never had a moment's problem (well, uh...a few moments, maybe) with Vista because I had first-tier hardware components in my desktop and so locating working & robust Vista hardware drivers was never a problem for me. However, Vista became a major pain for laptops during its first year simply because so few laptop OEMs had bothered to ensure that they furnished their customers with robust *drivers* along with the Vista OS. Many Vista hardware drivers required a different, new model for Vista (than was the case with XP, for instance.)

I saw many a friend's laptop during that time and cringed to see OEMs stupidly trying to use WinXP drivers for the on-board no-name el-cheapo hardware components (when they could get them to work), or else sticking their customers with the *Microsoft* drivers that shipped with Windows Vista and were present to get the OS to boot up successfully but not much else (as is always the case with a new version of Windows.) Microsoft has to do these "placebo drivers" because hardware OEMs are very, very slow to do them themselves! At least--2nd and 3rd tier hardware OEMs are very slow.

1st-tier OEMs, otoh, are pretty fast on the trigger to do a proper set of drivers for a new OS. Then you have the crooks like HP who try and charge for a new set of drivers for an older device that you want to run on the new OS--or, even worse, they'll tell you that you have to buy a *new device* to get drivers for the new OS! (It's another story, but I bought a $500 flat-bed scanner from HP that HP simply refused to update with new drivers when Vista rolled out! I'm done with HP as a result. Never again. Scanners don't cost $500 anymore, either, thank goodness.)

Windows 2k was horrifically bad--I have seen several small businesses still chained to 2k(!) because the owners were curmudgeons too fiercely attached to their money to spend any of it updating things like their business-wide OS. In an auto dealership I was familiar with, 2K was a bug-fest and virus & Trojan carnival, let me tell you. Whew!

Anyway, Windows 8 uses the same hardware driver models required by Vista & Win 7--it's when you get into the RT stuff in Win 8 that things deteriorate rapidly. The RT portion of Win8 is a problem looking for a solution, imo. It gives the OS a distinct schizoid feel and look, I suppose. Microsoft could fix these problems fairly easily, I think, (by providing a traditional start menu for the desktop, for starters.) The question is, is this going to happen? The answer will largely determine the fate of the Win8 desktop OS, I believe. Microsoft needs to start firing on all cylinders.

ToaOfJustice
on Mar 13, 2013

I'm not sure how relevant this is, but I thought you might find it interesting anyway. According to an article on The Register, the crew on the ISS recently installed NT 4.0 SP7.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/04/27/nt_4_0_sp7_available/

The Jedi
on Mar 14, 2013

Start8 is $4.99, StartIsBack is $3, and Classic Shell is free off of SourceForge. Any of these should knock the pain points by adding a Start Menu and allowing you to boot to the Win8 desktop. Voila.

Hugmup
on Mar 15, 2013

Every time I failed to find something in the KB, Microsoft wanted me to fill out a form with my experience. I always answered that things are not discoverable in the KB unless you happen to know what they are called, and that Microsoft should hire someone with an MLA degree to explain the difference between an index and a concordance. If something was called "start,' but you didn't know that and you searched for "begin" there was no intelligence to reroute you.

Based on those experiences, Microsoft does not have to go back to NT, it has to go back to coherence, and it has to let experts be in charge of the things in which they have expertise.

1. Make the UI unobtrusive. Eliminate notifications that are obvious, eliminate duplicate notifications (such as notifying the user there are updates while the user is updating). We don't need a message to pop up to tell us our computer is running. We only need to know that something went wrong, or that something we were waiting for is ready, but only if it takes a measurable time.

2. Managers and developers should make the final decisions about managing and developing, but designers, artiists, and writers should make final decisions about design, art, and writing; and these decisions need to be centralized in a small group of representative experts rather than an individual..

3. Stop rewarding competition among employees, by requiring that there be losers. Begin rewarding collaboration by making it possible for everyone to win. That frees up a lot of time for work that is otherwise spent on office politics and backstabbing.

4. Pick an API, any API, make it complete and stick with it. Windows is replete with incomplete APIs. Some, like the menus, are stunted. Apple can put a search box in a menu, for example, but Microsoft cannot. There's no excuse for that.

5. Back to colors. Take all the colors out of the UI. Colors detract from the content. Anyone who is editing a movie, or retouching pictures, or designing web sites, doesn't need the visual interference.

6. Make the UI functional and unobtrusive. Windows doesn't have to be in the user's face alll the time. It does not need to remind me that it is there. It just needs to do its job.

7. Clean out the attic. Go deep enough into any version of Windows and you are back in Windows 2000. For example, many policies are stated negatively, so administrators have to work in double negatives. They should all be stated positively. For example, there should not be a policy: "Do not allow users to close the framistan," because to let the users close the framistans, you have to say no to mean yes. Instead, it should be: "Allow lthe users to close the framistans."

8. Design the product for the user, not the C-level executive who sees the demonstration. Design it for the user, not the buyer, not for ten-thumbed executives who want to make sumpin purdy without larnin anything first. Design Word for writers, Excel for accountants, Project for program and project managers, and so forth. If the users don't use it, the buyers won't buy it, because the users will be sneaking in Macs and Linux.

Finally, don't change things just to change them. Yes, tires have been round for a long time, but there's a reason for that, and it is not time to make them square. Changes in overarching UI structures should be incremental, not cataclysmic, and there has to be a really good zero-based justification for a UI change that is jolting and dislocating for the user, or that orphans all expert users.

cosuna
on Mar 16, 2013

Paul... the past won't come back... I promise...

In a distant future, we will see hundreds of companies doing Windows XP emulators just like they do VT100 term emulators today.

We've all would have moved on past Windows into REAL touch enabled OSs.

Anthony2816
on Mar 18, 2013

Maybe they should revive another old name, and rename "Metro" to "Microsoft Bob".

pthurrott
on Mar 18, 2013

Maybe. Thanks for contributing to the discussion.

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