Microsoft Surface with Windows 8 Pro Preview

Microsoft may have gotten it right with Surface with Windows 8 Pro

With Microsoft expected to launch its second Surface tablet in the coming days, it’s time to start thinking about how or if this device changes things. Stung a bit by limitations in Surface RT, I’m nonetheless still quite excited about Surface with Windows 8 Pro. And if this machine lives up to its advanced billing, it could fulfill Microsoft’s promise to change the PC market for good.

Microsoft first previewed Surface Pro, as I’ll now call it, back in June 2012. Earlier this month, it provided bloggers with a few minutes of hands-on time at CES, but since I declined to attend the show, I will need to wait a bit for my own hands-on experience. Fortunately, I have a few insider secrets about Surface Pro you won’t read anywhere else.

Here’s what’s happening.

Form factor

While I previously compared the specifications of Surface RT with those of Surface Pro in Microsoft Surface: RT vs. Pro, a Specifications Comparison, I’ve now spent over two months using Surface RT and have a better idea of how portable the device is, and how the slightly bigger and heavy Surface Pro will compare. Put simply, the Surface RT and Pro are almost identical looking from a form factor perspective, with the Surface Pro’s slightly thicker body--.53 inches vs. .37 inches—being the prime differentiator. (The reasons for this difference are discussed below.)

Where the Surface RT and Pro differ more obviously from a form factor perspective is the weight: Where the Surface RT comes in at just 1.5 pounds, the Surface Pro weighs 2 pounds, fully 33 percent more. Now, 2 pounds is still very light, and when you factor in the weight of a Type Cover or Touch Cover, the device is still lighter than the 11-inch MacBook Air. (It’s also infinitely more versatile, but that’s another story.)

Microprocessor/graphics/RAM

Where Surface RT features a 1.3 GHz NVIDIA Tegra 3 (ARM) processor with integrated graphics and 2 GB of RAM, Surface Pro features a more conventional and well understood 1.7 GHz Intel Core i5-3317U processor with integrated graphics and 4 GB of RAM. This combination graces a huge percentage of common Ultrabooks and will represent a huge improvement over the Surface RT’s netbook-like performance.

Indeed, a peek at System properties reveals a score of 5.6 on the Windows Experience Index (WEI), with the processor coming in at 6.9 (out of a possible 9.9); the primary disk rates a stellar 8.9. Windows RT doesn’t provide WEI numbers, and for a reason: With that OS, Microsoft promises a consistent experience, so no WEI score is required.

One big area of concern with the Surface Pro is that the Intel Core processor requires a fan and thus the system could be loud. Well, Surface Pro comes with two fans, but in normal use it’s almost completely silent, and uses a unique vent that runs along the back edge of the device; this explains the additional thickness compared to the Surface RT. Play a modern game, however, and the fans kick in, as expected.

The Surface Pro also sports a much higher resolution display than the Surface RT, 1920 x 1080 (“full HD”) vs. 1366 x 768. I’m a bit nervous about how the Windows desktop will look on the Surface’s small 10.6 inch screen. But the Pro will provide better performance and higher resolutions on an external display; that the Surface RT can drive a full HD external display well is perhaps a good sign. Oddly, the Surface Pro uses Mini DisplayPort for video-out, where Surface RT uses a more standard mini-HDMI port.

Battery life

One of the absolute highlights of Surface RT is the battery life: This highly mobile wonder gets about 9 hours of battery life. When Microsoft vaguely admitted that Surface Pro would only get “about half” the battery life of Surface RT, people panicked. But in real life, it’s not quite that bad. Surface Pro gets over 5 hours of battery life in real world use, not commendable in any way, but not a complete dud either.

Ports and expansion

With its nearly identical form factor, it should come as no surprise that Surface Pro works with the same Type Cover and Touch Cover keyboard covers as does Surface RT; they share the same cover port. Where the Surface RT features a single USB 2.0 port, the Surface Pro has a single USB 3.0 port, plus a second 5 watt USB port on the power supply for device charging. Both devices have micro-SD slots, and a headset jack. As noted previously, where the Surface RT uses micro-HDMI for video out, Surface Pro uses Mini DsplayPort.

Pen and touch support

Where Surface RT only supports capacitive pens, which emulate a fingertip in a smaller form factor (which does provide slight better accuracy), Surface Pro supports true electromagnetic pen/styli. Indeed, it comes with one: The bundled pen supports multiple pressures (for thicker lines), an eraser, and a right-click button. It also features a weird magnetic latch, identical to that on the end of the power adapter, so that it can connect to the exterior of the device when you’re not using it. This seems destined to be lost, but the Surface Pro wasn’t thick enough to provide the otherwise preferable internal bay for the pen.

An electromagnetic pen requires a certain kind of digitizer on the screen, and sure enough the version on Surface Pro is indeed superior to that on Surface RT. It’s also better at multi-touch: Where Surface RT supports five touch points, Surface Pro supports 10 touch points.

Storage

Where Surface RT comes with either 32 GB or 64 GB of internal storage (plus up to 64 GB via microSD), Surface Pro provides 64 GB or 128 GB of storage. You’ll need it: Windows 8 Pro takes up more space on disk than does Windows RT, and you’ll be able to install a lot more software on there thanks to its compatibility with normal Windows desktop software. (Yes, Surface Pro does come with the 64-bit version of Windows 8 Pro.)

Microsoft Office

It’s worth pointing out that Surface RT comes with Office Home & Student 2013 RT, which includes full-featured versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote 2013. Surface Pro does not come with any version of Office, but you’re free to install any version of Office you like, including Office applications like Outlook that cannot work on Windows RT.

Pricing

Surface RT comes in three versions. The base product features 32 GB of storage but no Type Cover and costs $499. The mid-line version adds a black Touch Cover and costs $599. And for $699, you can get a 64 GB Surface with Black Touch Cover.

Surface Pro will come in only two variants, both of which lack Type Covers, so you’ll want to pick up a Type or Touch Cover separately. The base version, with 64 GB of storage, will cost $899, while the 128 GB version will cost $999.

When you factor in the cost of a Touch Cover ($119, in a variety of colors) or a Type Cover ($129, black only), the Surface Pro will cost a fairly expensive $1020 to $1130, or about the same as a decent to high-end Ultrabook. You may want to factor in the cost of Office 2013 in that purchase, too, come to think of it.

Looking ahead

I’m really looking forward to getting my hands on Surface with Windows 8 Pro, not for 30 minutes in a contrived hotel room drive-by where I can’t even take my own pictures of it, but in the real world. Asumming there are no surprises, I’ll be moving to using Surface Pro full-time, even at home, as soon as the device arrives here. I’ll report back regularly on my experiences, and provide further comparisons between Surface Pro and Surface RT, as well as other Windows devices. We’ll see what happens. But I think Surface Pro is going to be the real deal. Stay tuned.

Discuss this Article 49

mikesmikes
on Jan 21, 2013

Will the Pro have any real life advantages over the RT? I could be wrong, but I really think it will not. Because it will not address either of my two major issues with the RT:

1. The 10" screen size.
2. The floppy keyboard.

Now, I love my RT and use it all day every day, and those are not serious issues for how I use the RT - web browsing and occasional Office use - and very occasionally for testing out HTML/JavaScript. (Oh, and for podcasts and music listening and probably other minor things I don't think about. Oh, and when I want to make a quick check on weather or something since it warms up instantly...) But for any "power usage", I use a full-size laptop. I can't see the Pro changing this. Just because it can run legacy Windows apps, doesn't mean you'd want to, on a 10" screen with a floppy keyboard. I could be wrong, because Office is definitely useful on the RT, but still, I jump over to a full-size laptop, if available, for longer sessions.

What intrigues me though is the pen. That might actually make the Pro a more useful device than the RT. Even though, the RT actually has decent handwriting abilities as well, and I haven't thought of any practical use for it.

AlexKven
on Jan 21, 2013

Four words: too expensive!
The only reason that a normal person would buy the RT version is if it significantly undercut the iPad. Face it, Paul: Low cost computing is a necessity, and google knows that. That is why the Chromebook will kick Microsoft and Apple in the a**. It's a shame because the netbook market was a market where Microsoft had basically 100% of.

qhendricks
on Jan 22, 2013

There's a difference, though. Chromebook can't do what the Surface Pro can. The pro is expensive for a tablet - but it's more than a tablet. It's comparable to a full ultrabook, which often times are even more expensive. The RT was comparable to a tablet. This is comparable (in both specs and price) to an Ultrabook.

Waethorn
on Jan 22, 2013

"Four words: too expensive!"

Your math is bad and you should feel bad!

dalestrauss
on Jan 22, 2013

WRONG - the Surface Pro is not overpriced. Take any high end ultrabook, add an active digitizer and Displayport (which supports 2560x1440 external monitors) and you have the highest quality ultrabook imaginable for $1130. I've been a laptop user since purchasing a 1988 Toshiba T1100 Plus for $2395, which was a mid-level, no hard disk, laptop of its time. High end Compaq lunchbox-sized 386 transportables, with a meager 1MB ram and 40MB hard drive, went for nearly $7000. In over 25 years of portable computing, the sweet spot for mid-level (business class) laptops was just over $2000, with all the high end gear, like the Compaq and Toshiba best, were in the $3500-4500 range. Only in the last few years, since the invention of the horrific netbook (the disco era of computing), have prices drifted to the $500 level and below.

The early bets on the iPad were a $999 price for baseline, and Apple shocked us all with $499 (despite the fact that it didn't have enough ram or storage for squat), with the Apple high end being $829, which does get you 3g/4g. For $70 more, you can have the baseline Surface Pro with micro-SDXC expansion for another 64GB, 4GB ram, active digitizer, displayport, USB 3, and a built in kickstand. To get a kickstand I have to buy at least a $39 folding cover for my iFad, which does nothing else. The $119 touch cover on my Surface Pro is a fully capable keyboard for portable use (no one EVER said it was for drafting the Great American Novel).

So please, take your "too expensive" opinion (and your poor math skills - that's two words by the way), and go back to your Chromebook world.

worleyeoe
on Jan 22, 2013

In the grand scheme of things, it's overpriced. Here's why. The simple truth is that, until tablets came along, the only game in town was a Windows PC. In general, the PC was overkill for what most people needed. Today, most "consumers" don't need to run Win32 apps in this new paradigm.

So here comes MS with two very high-end solutions. Surface RT is without a doubt overpriced for what ever reason, presumably to allow OEM to sell more of their tablets. Likewise, the Surface Pro is also over priced but probably not as much in terms of %. Ultimately, it's a 10.6" device, which is not going to be anything more than a companion device for most power users and enterprise users.

Honestly, what extra do out get compared to an average $500 laptop? An SSD and an active digitizer. But at what cost? Less overall storage, fewer ports, and considerably less screen real estate. IMO - the fancy keyboard is somewhat of a wash, because a good $500 laptop is still portable and integrates a usable solution in terms of viewing the screen from one's lap.

The bottom line is that MS has intentionally overpriced these devices, again to give OEMs somewhat of a leg up on selling lower their priced hybrid tablets. And BTW - your history lesson does nothing to dispel the "overpriced" moniker. And as time passes, the addressable market for mondo tablets will get smaller, not larger.

I for one would rather have a complete range of devices, inexpensive to high-end. Unfortunately, MS like their efforts with WP is focusing 99% of their effort on the high-end while Google is running away with the volume which hurts MS in terms of adoption of its on-line services and Office.

StephenPAdams
on Jan 29, 2013

Microsoft isn't going to release a product at a price that they lose money or break even on....especially not when it is their first foray into the PC hardware market. No, instead they're going to start with premium devices that compete with Apple. Their manufacturers are there to create cheap products (there are Windows 8 laptops that are $250-$300).

Microsoft is already working on releasing a cheaper/smaller Surface (and upgrading Windows 8 to support smaller form factors). They'll be sticking with an Apple plan to keep their image in line with a premium experience. The race to the bottom can happen with their other manufacturers.

sharpsone
on Jan 23, 2013

Did I really just read this line of phooey? The Chromebook is nothing but a browser. If you like the AOL experience go for it. Hope you enjoy it while the rest of us run real PCs!

StephenPAdams
on Jan 29, 2013

Being that there are Windows 8 laptops for $250, your argument is mostly moot: http://www.stephenpauladams.com/articles/are-chromebooks-the-new-ubuntu-...

Yuxie
on Jan 21, 2013

So expensive... what happened to "the iPad is overpriced."

Also... the pen simply proves that the "righ click" is important.

sorahl
on Jan 21, 2013

Paul - I too am VERY much looking forward to the Surface Pro (especially since I didn't get the RT). Grabbing a copy of O2013 via HUP so a bit of savings there. It's still a couple hundred more than I was hoping but not more than it's worth. Did I mention I can't wait???

dfey
on Jan 21, 2013

If it came with Verizon 4G LTE I'd be on the pre-order list. I still think 16x10 is a preferable format and that Haswell will be the "real deal" when it comes to cpu's but this is a good device finally worthy of long consideration.
5.5 hours * Haswell 20% = 6.7, which I'd expect will land you 6-7 hours with Haswell maybe a bit more.
1920x1200 screens will come in time
LGE in either AT&T or Verizon flavor will also come in time

thereal_entheos
on Jan 22, 2013

I would get it to with Verizon LTE, but I don't think there is a single computer (tablet OR notebook) that has this on a Windows 8 machine. I know many think its fine just to use the internet sharing of your phone for your tablet, but this doesn't work with Verizon when you are on your phone (yes, oral communication isn't completely dead).

Something is odd here on why no Verizon LTE on new computers when it was available in the past on quite a few laptops (at least 3G). Just when its now only $10 more a month to add a tablet to a Verizon sharing plan. Makes you wonder too now that there are a few android tablets with Verizon LTE, and of course the iPad.

ogdenous
on Jan 22, 2013

Why not just enable hotspot on your phone. Always will carry it and can plug in to Surface to keep phone charged. IF they get new 7w Ivy Bridge in that would be great. It is 7w compared to 17w on older Ivy Bridge. Haswell is 10w.

GoodThings2Life
on Jan 21, 2013

It's certainly fair to factor in the cost of Office, which is extremely unfortunate. I think that Microsoft should have at least offered it at a substantially discounted pricing or offered a 6-month trial period or something to woo customers.

Thankfully, I'm planning on licensing Office 365 to get my copy, which I think offers the best value.

GoodThings2Life
on Jan 21, 2013

Oh, and one more thing, I know it has never really "caught on" with previous iterations of Tablet PC's, but I really wish/hope Microsoft would put some focus on the usefulness of the pen with OneNote and apps like Fresh Paint. It's such an understated feature, in my opinion. In fact, I think Surface Pro might finally be the form factor I need to convince more of my coworkers to use tech in meetings and carry around less paper notepads.

studio4llc
on Jan 22, 2013

If OneNote and the tablet pc (convertible) achieved any success, it was due to college students that kept both alive.

SDreamer
on Jan 22, 2013

It's nice seeing Microsoft embracing something that could be used as a nice differentiation factor for them, and that's the stylus input. Been using a TabletPC for a while (currently an HP tm2t w/ Win 8), and it's its the deal breaking reason for me to stick around with Microsoft. It would be nice to see them highlighting that feature of the Surface Pro. I hope more light is shed on that pen. From other reports it doesn't seem to be Wacom made, and seeing that magnetic latch clip to the power makes it seem like it's possible that it could be battery powered as well making a heavy pen vs Wacom's batteryless offering. Hoping it turns out to be a hit though.

dalestrauss
on Jan 22, 2013

It's like Microsoft has been cow-towed by Jobs' legacy of "If you see a stylus, they blew it." WINDOWS WITH A PEN IS NOT A STYLUS. It is a great data input method - I never convert my not notes to text; OneNote searches them perfectly (well nearly so) as if your handwritten notes are indexed in the database. Note taking has a whole new meaning with a Wacom quality pen. Don't let Jobs' reality distortion field mix words here - an active digitizer is NOT a plastic stylus pointing device as that carnival huckster pulled the wool over the eyes of the iFad loving public.

Shopko
on Jan 22, 2013

I'm a professional software developer, and I can't do work on anything less than a 24" screen. For content consumption only, 10-11" is fine. For content production, with editors, debuggers, and VM windows open, my 27" 2560x1440 screen is almost a minimum requirement.

Ironically, my need to run 5-8 applications simultaneously in desktop mode is what drove me away from Windows 8. The OS is clearly designed for people NOT in my category of user. Microsoft has really dropped the ball for developers, driving many of us to alternative platforms and technologies.

These days, I work in Ubuntu 12.04 / Linux Mint 12 almost exclusively on my desktop, Arch Linux on a Raspberry Pi running XBMC with CEC, and Android smartphones / tablets for media and Internet consumption. I've developed apps for iOS, but honestly Google's market is large enough for me to make plenty of money while focusing on one technology stack exclusively. Plus, my native code dabblings in Android carry over to the Pi's ARM codebase amazingly well. Microsoft really doesn't have a good multi-platform story for developers outside of "code for HTML5 as IE10 interprets it".

henador
on Jan 22, 2013

Of course Win8 was designed for your type of usage. You still have the Desktop, which is probably the best version of Windows yet. I have a Samsung Series 7 Slate, which uses an older Sandy Bridge i5, and connect it to an external 23" 1920x1080 monitor, keyboard, and mouse. It's basically a Desktop computer in that mode and I use it to dev Win8 and WinPhone8 apps in VS2012. I can undock and use it as a regular Win8/Metro tablet for consumption.

The Surface Pro will be better because it uses the newer Ivy Bridge i5, which has a slightly faster CPU and a significantly faster GPU.

You can *choose* to use a different platform but you definitely haven't been driven away by Microsoft or Windows 8.

arrow22
on Jan 22, 2013

And as a software developer, you've never had to leave your office/home to show an early build of your software, or to travel and work from a hotel?

You also realize that you can easily plug in a nice big monitor on the Surface, along with a keyboard and mouse, and just pick it up and go for other tasks. There's also nothing in Windows 8 preventing you from using multiple applications at a time. In fact, multiple monitor support is quite improved from previous versions.

There's tons of reasons to dislike Windows, but what you've pointed out aren't issues at all.

pmbAustin
on Jan 22, 2013

As much as I drool over this thing, I think I'm going to wait for Surface Pro 2 ... hopefully with Wi-Di, LTE, NFC, and better battery life and graphics (and possibly thinner and lighter).

I have a Surface RT for now, as well as a Win8 (non-touch) laptop (upgraded Dell), and an upgraded Win8 Desktop (also non-touch). I think I can do without for a year?

Then again, I'll probably succumb to temptation. 'Cause I really want to play with this thing.

But I'm telling you, add Wi-Di (I really like this feature of my laptop) and LTE (because it really wants to stay connected at all times), and I'm in. Totally.

I hope it's really successful for Microsoft, sells well, and that their next generation is even better.

wp7mango
on Jan 23, 2013

It might have WiDi. Certainly the processor and graphics card support WiDi, so it just depends on the WiFi adapter included.

ad24
on Jan 22, 2013

This looks amazing. I just hope I will be able to wait until Surface pro with Intel Haswell comes out. Guess, it will be almost as Surface RT battery and weight wise, but with full Intel Core power.

FirasR
on Jan 22, 2013

Lots of great info thanks Paul. I was really excited about the Surface Pro when it was first announced, however the more info I read about it the less tempting it's sounding. With it's relatively high price, not so great battery power, limited storage, regular ultrabooks from either Lenovo or Asus are seeming like a better deal. Luckily I'm not planning on purchasing a new machine for at least another month or two at the earliest, so I'll be waiting to yours and others' on-hand reviews of the Surface Pro after it's released and see what the other manufacturers release in the next few months (why oh why didn't Lenovo release an Intel version of the 11" Yoga along with the 13" back in Oct./Nov. as I'll have to wait at least till June or probably longer if I decide to get that one).

nztjbv
on Jan 22, 2013

Very thorough review of Surface Pro. I'm looking forward to the release of Surface Pro....hopefully in the next two weeks. However, I am curious to know how the Surface Pro would run using Intel's Clover Trail CPU?

Maelstrom
on Jan 22, 2013

Well, I don't see it odd to have a mini DisplayPort there. Indeed, while it is brand new in the PC world (at least outside of Apple), it may have a bright future considering the large bandwidth it allows along with the ability to chain periphericals. In fact, it broadens our connectivity in brand new ways and that’s its main advantage IMO.

For instance, not only the mDP may extend our Windows desktop's real estate to two or more external displays but it also may bring along an external HD via a daisy-chained setup. Moreover, and in addition to this, it may even enhance performances by also connecting an eGPU box to the Surface (e.g., MSI GUS II)! So, with just one mDP, the right hardware and just one cable to plug, we may transform a tablet like the Surface Pro (or any other slate or ultrabook with a mDP for that matter) into a very decent desktop replacement.
As such, it is a good bet for the future and a much more efficient one than using a mini HDMI port even if all this still comes at a hefty price for the time being.

That being said, since I'm in no hurry, I think I'm going to wait for the Surface Pro 2 running on Haswell...

nicosavides
on Jan 22, 2013

So, no Y series processor from Intel?
The classic Core i5-3317U is good but the new Y processors might have given a bit more battery life.

Nazo
on Jan 22, 2013

I've got a similarly specced (though missing a few features) Acer Win 8 tablet device and I absolutely love it. I think Surface Pro will be a really nice device but the tricky part will be in the marketing. I've seen a lot of criticism of this form compared with a laptop but IMO this is not a laptop replacement and it doesn't work as one.

MS needs to do a much better job getting a clear message across than it did with Surface RT (or Win RT for that matter).

WaltC
on Jan 22, 2013

I really, really do not understand why people think going backwards in time 20 years to 10"-14" monitors is "going to change the way PCs are made." That's a strange assertion.

nicosavides
on Jan 22, 2013

size matters only related to resolution :)
People (or at least I ) want 1920x1080 in the most portable case.
I want 10" for portability as I am moving a lot, and can plug a large screen when at my desk if needed.

qhendricks
on Jan 22, 2013

My only concern is adding the touch keyboard onto the original price. I want the 128g version, so it looks like I'll be spending a bit, which I don't mind for what I'm getting.
I wish I could finance this. I really don't want to have to drop 1k all at once.

studio4llc
on Jan 22, 2013

MS Surface Pro at $1,130 or Lenovo Helix (due end of February) starting at $1,499? The Helix is a serious machine - 11.6" @1920x1080 detachable; i3, i5 or i7; up to 256gb ssd; up to 8gb ram; 10 hrs battery life (5 hrs tablet + 5 hrs base); NFC; 3G, 4G or 4G LTE; digitizer pen - probably replaces the x200t series of Lenovo convertible tablets.

klamation
on Jan 22, 2013

Wow, those are some serious specs. I'm worried that they will push the price well into the +$2500 range, once you start adding things. The base processor with base RAM and base storage, running Win 8 (non-Pro) for $1500, though? I guess if you want the power, options like this are better than the Surface Pro.

studio4llc
on Jan 22, 2013

I suspect Lenovo will keep it below $2,000 and inline with the "x" series of convertibles. This is likely the high water mark for anything less than a workstation. Certainly is for me. But if you are considering, and can afford $1,400, why not justify $2,000 for a true performer? $1,400 is too much money to be searching for reasons.

GWLeibniz
on Jan 22, 2013

My dilema also. But as I am using a Lenovo to type this, I think it will be the Helix - as long as I can force IT to go for that!

GWLeibniz
on Jan 23, 2013

No they will not! The swine - no Lenovo - they don't like the connection between screen and keyboard. Its going to be a S-Pro in about 6 months.

bdegrande
on Jan 22, 2013

As one who has used an XP tablet, as well as other smaller form factor PCs (Toshiba Libretto, Sony UMPC), a 2 pound tablet is an absolute non-starter for me. I don't mind the total weight with the keyboard, but if the tablet itself is going to be that heavy. you might as well get an ultrabook or a Macbook Air - you get much better hardware in about the same price range.

I have a relatively light RT tablet (Asus VivoTab) and it will probably be Windows 9 (which I am hoping will be a much smaller OS, at least on tablets) before I am interested in a tablet running full Windows.

selboury
on Jan 22, 2013

This is undoubtedly The Ultimate PC,

I am still hoping that Microsoft will release the following accessories really soon:
- a dock similar to the samsung slate dock for more expansion ports and maybe a built-in gpu for multiple monitor support
- a 'special' keyboard accessory with built-in battery pack

Who knows maybe they'll surprise us at launch...wishful thinking?

thundr35
on Jan 22, 2013

Honestly, when comparing this with the other intel based devices available, I don't know why this device would appeal to anyone. I'll be the first to admit that it looks nice, but that only goes so far...at least with me. Then again, this is supposed to be a "Premium" device which I guess is code for "Overpriced". Maybe I should be less practical..

MarkH
on Jan 22, 2013

My thoughts, in no particular order, are: Thank you very much to Paul for keeping us as up to speed as he can and without all the hooey of regular bloggers. Also, I think the Surface Pro is a fantastic innovation by Microsoft and I absolutely can't wait to skip it in favor of version 2 :-P. When is this NOT the case? Brand new innovative something or other comes out and it's all "ooo, ahh...wait...it can't do that?" Seems to me I read (possibly here, but don't quote me) that Microsoft is creating these things more to "set the bar" to spur other manufacturers, and not as the be-all end-all deluxe model. It shouldn't come as too much of a surprise then that while the Surface Pro is good, it's lacking in some pretty obvious ways that the other manufacturers (Lenovo for instance) will overcome...hopefully quickly.

Life is better when multiple manufacturers compete to make their product better than the other guy's. I applaud Microsoft for starting the ball rolling at a decent level.

pipsqueek
on Jan 22, 2013

Newest model Surface Windows 8 Pro will go on sale on February 9 in the U.S.and Canada: Microsoft

hereskilled
on Jan 22, 2013

I've been using a Sony Vaio Duo 11 (http://www.sony.co.uk/product/vn-duo/svd1121z9e) to write a Windows 8 app. It's a lovely machine when using it on a desk, but it's too heavy as a tablet and the screen is too wide so it's actually awkward to use. I did like that it would run 2 external screens and it's own screen.

Paul, the Vaio had the DPI set to 125% that made the desktop usable, but cause the external screens to be set too high when plugged in.

Unfortunately I've got to give it back as the company decided to go another way and I've been given a 13" retina Macbook Pro so I can develop and iOS app instead. It's going to be dual booted into windows.

mmaestro
on Jan 22, 2013

Paul, does this have an SD slot for expandable storage?

pthurrott
on Jan 22, 2013

Yes, same as Surface RT. (micro-SD)

funenuf
on Jan 22, 2013

I am excited to try the Surface Pro! The ability to run our company's ERP system, Office 2013 w/Macros, Oracle Database Connections, E-Drawings, AutoCAD, E-Plan, Allen-Bradley and Siemens PLC software in a device I can remove from dock to use as a tablet is amazing.

AlexKven
on Jan 22, 2013

Paul, I know that this thing has an ambient light sensor, which is awesome, but does it have any others, like GPS or accelerometers? (The Surface RT doesn't have GPS, but the pro might)

eboyhan
on Jan 28, 2013

As its name imples, the Surface Pro is aimed at professionals -- so the choice of displayport in place of an HDMI port makes sense -- as displayport can drive much higher resolutions than HDMI. Professionals will want to take advantage of the multi-monitor improvements in W8, and use the Surface Pro with higher than HDMI resolution monitors.

I have pretty much made up my mind that I'll get one of these on Feb 9th. Only thing up in the air is which keyboard to get. The nearest MS store is 100 miles away; the nearby Staples and Best Buys don't have any of the surface keyboards on display -- so I'm resigned to a trip to Orlando on 2/9 (which is a Saturday) to help with that. I don't do a lot of typing, and I don't touch type well at all -- so I'm leaning towards the "Touch" keyboard.

I had a little hesitation about this because it seems to me, that MS will be releasing additional Surfii later in 2013. One question is whether they'll go up (more features, higher price), or down (lower prices, fixes to the RT feature set), or something entirely different.

I hope they go up. My wishlist would include 8 GB ram, 512 GB SSD (I have 2 W7 laptops with 256 GB SSDs, and it's just not enough). Instead of displayport and USB 3.0, why not replace them with a single Thunderbolt port? I'd like to see them use the lower voltage "Y" ivy bridge processors, and of course "Haswell" when they become available.

I had planned to get a high-end ultrabook this XMAS season, but nothing appealed: the new retina MacBook Pro's don't have touch screens (and I'm leery of an Apple product when my usage is all on Windows). The Samsung Series 9 looks great, but again no touch screen, and SSD tops out at 256 GB.

The ASUS ZENBOOK™ Touch U500VZ looks nice, but other than the page on the ASUS web site, it's nowhere to be found.

This all makes the possibility of buyers remorse vis a vis the Surface Pro easier to take: if MS does release a nice high-end Surface later in 2013, maybe it'll be able to satisfy my yen for a high end Ultrabook :grin.

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