A Tale of Two Start Screens

So this is interesting. I've been using the Windows 8 Consumer Preview since Monday on a Samsung Series 7 tablet, as you may know, but since yesterday have been loading it on the various PCs I use regularly. And one difference has stood out.

In this case, a picture really is worth a thousand words. So here are two: 

First, the Windows 8 Start screen on the Samsung tablet:

ss-tablet

Now, the Windows 8 Start screen on the Lenovo ThinkPad 420S:

ss-thinkpad

See the difference? The tablet version offers three rows of tiles, while the laptop version has four. Here's the thing: they both have exactly the same screen resolution, 1366 x 768. And, yes, the DPI settings are the same for both. So why would the tablet show less?

My theory is that this is related to touch, that because the table exposes touch capabilities, Windows 8 scales up the user interface to make bigger touch targets. But I really don't know.

Yet.

Update: A number of comments below wonder about the screen size differences between the two devices, and this seems like a reasonable avenue for finding the answer. The Samsung tablet has an ~11 inch screen, while the ThinkPad T420S has a much bigger 14-inch screen. So that could indeed account for the layout differences seen here. That or the touch capabilities, or a combination of the both. Interesting that Microsoft might be looking at more than just the resolution either way.

Discuss this Article 21

sushant40
on Mar 1, 2012
Good to know they are putting some attention to detail.
planetarian
on Mar 1, 2012
No dice. My Inspiron Duo support multitouch and Win8 uses it, but I get four rows. However, on the dev preview, at some point after I switched the desktop to higher-DPI, it switched to three rows.
planetarian
on Mar 1, 2012
Everything I can find suggests it's resolution- or DPI-related. No idea why you'd have two systems with the same settings but different row counts.
glenn.gilbert@b...
on Mar 1, 2012
Because the tablet screens are smaller and you're using a finger to click, not a mouse. Its more interesting that you'd want to use the "start" screen at all when you've a non-tablet system. BTW, where's the list of applications (which were in the original Start menu)?
Anirask
on Mar 1, 2012
That's odd. On a Lenovo Thinkpad X100e (same resolution as the devices you mentionned), I'm getting 3 rows of icons on the screen, not 4. Is the display physically larger on the 420? Perhaps a 14" laptop?
JimmyFal
on Mar 1, 2012
Speaking of start screens. Can you think of a reason that moving the mouse side to side scrolls things nicely on the start screen, but in the apps this extremely nice feature is ignored? I'm forced to go down to the scroll bar at the bottom which is terrible. By design; or shut up and wait till they iron it out?
Anirask
on Mar 1, 2012
Could it be because the 420 has a physically larger display? I installed it on a Lenovo Thinkpad X100e and I'm getting 3 rows of tiles in Metro.
d0johns1
on Mar 1, 2012
I will test this tomorrow at work, as we're Mac Centric there, but have you tried streaming it through Parallels to an iPad? I'll let you know what it looks like vs the traditional Parallels window/fullscreen mode.
chomers
on Mar 1, 2012
On my dell studio with 1300 resolution i get 4 rows. When my laptop is plugged into my 1920rez monitor i get only three rows. This also gave me issues when i unplugged the monitor, the start screen freezed while trying to switch back to the laptop screen as the primary display.
cuz84d
on Mar 1, 2012
I just registered to say that I have 6 rows at 1920x1080.. I think when you start moving tiles you can add rows.
cuz84d
on Mar 1, 2012
I just registered to say that I have 6 rows at 1920x1080.. I think when you start moving tiles you can add rows.
tianliu
on Mar 1, 2012
I am using Lenovo X220 multi-touch convertible with 1366 x 768 screen resolution, and I am seeing the second 4-row screen.
dnationsr
on Mar 2, 2012
I watched u on windows weekly on twit and u said u was curious about running WCP on a Notebook. I have a Compau Pasario and I did a clean install of WCP. Ur right the resolution can NOT be run over 1280 and I would not recommend that. It should be ran below 1280. I also found that it runs very slugish. If u click on a program to install it..it takes about 30 seconds+ for the program to even come up. So I'm very disatified with it on my notebook. I WILL be going back to windows 7 which ran great on this machine..So I hope i helped u out some Paul.
GrendelsBane
on Mar 2, 2012
If you go into the start screen's setting via the good ol' right swipe there's an option for "show more tiles". Normally I get 6 rows at 1920 x 1200, but with that on I get 7
de Silentio
on Mar 2, 2012
I have a Lenovo x120e (11" screen) with 1366 x 768 resolution and I only get three rows by default. Maybe it's the screen size that makes the difference.
de Silentio
on Mar 2, 2012
@GrendelsBane: If I do a "right swipe", choose settings, then click settings again (which is what I presume you did), I don't have the option to add another row of tiles. I think it's screen size that makes the difference. But then, how does Windows know that I have an 11" screen?
luiscamino
on Mar 2, 2012
It feels like it's the setting inside PC settings/display "make everything on the screen bigger"
pstomike
on Mar 2, 2012
I have WIN8 CP on a desktop with 3 screens. My main screen is a 46" Samsung with 1080 resolution set. Still only get 3 rows on the start screen(and the tiles are big). My 17" HP laptop has 5 rows on the start screen. What gives? And to the "guy" with a setting for more tiles on start screen... that is not showing up on either of my systems. Paul, why 3 rows on 1920x1080 res and 5 rows on 1600x900 res?
pstomike
on Mar 2, 2012
I have WIN8 CP on a desktop with 3 screens. My main screen is a 46" Samsung with 1080 resolution set. Still only get 3 rows on the start screen(and the tiles are big). My 17" HP laptop has 5 rows on the start screen. What gives? And to the "guy" with a setting for more tiles on start screen... that is not showing up on either of my systems. Paul, why 3 rows on 1920x1080 res and 5 rows on 1600x900 res?
pstomike
on Mar 2, 2012
I have WIN8 CP on a desktop with 3 screens. My main screen is a 46" Samsung with 1080 resolution set. Still only get 3 rows on the start screen(and the tiles are big). My 17" HP laptop has 5 rows on the start screen. What gives? And to the "guy" with a setting for more tiles on start screen... that is not showing up on either of my systems. Paul, why 3 rows on 1920x1080 res and 5 rows on 1600x900 res?
rickliev
on Mar 21, 2013

I noticed that increasing your DPI either directly or indirectly via the "Settings | Ease of Access | Make everything on your screen bigger" setting will restrict the max number of rows to three, no matter what your resolution or screen size.

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