Weighing in on Surface Pro Pricing

Surface Pro looks solid, but it may be too expensive for what it is

I’ll say this much for Microsoft: For a company that couldn’t get any attention at all for several years there, its Surface devices have generated an unprecedented amount of attention, buzz, and controversy. We’ve been debating various aspects of both Surface models since their June introduction, and this week’s pricing announcement for the Surface Pro has triggered yet another round.

There’s a lot of debate and discussion when it comes to the Surface. Today, I’d like to just address pricing.

Microsoft revealed yesterday that Surface with Windows 8 Pro, which will ship in late January via the Microsoft Store as well as third party retailers, will cost $899 or $999, depending on the version. (You can read more in Microsoft Reveals Surface Pro Pricing.) These new devices are the high-end complement to the Surface with Windows RT, which costs $499 to $699 depending on the version.

I previously described Surface RT pricing as too high, arguing that these machines should undercut iPad pricing in order to be competitive. (Apple’s iPad runs from $499 to $829 depending on the version.) My rationale there was simple: The iPad was too expensive to begin with, as proven by competing tablets like the Amazon Kindle Fire HD 8.9 ($299) and Google Nexus 10 ($399). Plus, Microsoft’s device is a big risk for consumers, as it runs an unknown and unproven OS (Windows RT), and is backed by a new and unproven content ecosystem that may or may not ever be truly competitive.

Those who disagreed with this assessment argued that the Surface RT’s higher pricing was justified by its inclusion of Microsoft Office and, on two of the three versions, a Touch Cover, which sells separately for $119. These are fair points, but again, I feel like these two features are just baseline arguments for getting a Surface rather than an iPad or Android tablet and that the newness of the Surface OS and ecosystem demand lower pricing.

Surface Pro is, of course, a different animal.

Microsoft hinted back in June that Surface Pro would cost about as much as an Ultrabook. And on the face of things, it does: The high-end version, with its 128 GB of solid state storage, hits what is currently the high-end pricing of $999 for the typical Ultrabook.

It’s too expensive.

Neither of the two Surface Pro tablets come with a Type or Touch Cover. So the actual minimum prices of these devices is at least $1029/$1129. Ultrabooks come with real keyboards, so you could argue that the actual price is $10 higher in each case (for the Touch Cover), but whatever.

Ultrabooks also come with larger screens. 13-inches is standard, and the machine I currently use has a larger 15-inch display. While preferences are indeed personal, my attempts to use an 11-inch Ultrabook-like machine a few years back were disastrous. I can’t imagine returning to such a tiny screen, like the one that is used by Surface. And with its high resolution (1920 x 1080), onscreen items in desktop mode are going to be tiny.

Ultrabooks typically get great battery life. According to Laptop Magazine, the average battery life for ultraportable computers today is 6 hours and 20 minutes. But Microsoft admitted this week that Surface Pro would only get “half” the battery life of Surface RT. According to that same publication, Surface RT gets 7 hours and 43 minutes of battery life. So Surface Pro could come in at under 4 hours of battery life. That’s not just bad, it’s unacceptable, especially when you consider that the battery is not user replaceable. (That 15 inch Ultrabook I use gets well over 7 hours of battery life too, by the way.)

It’s too expensive.

Discuss this Article 64

ciscog33k
on Dec 1, 2012

I think the price is fine in terms of specs. It's got better specs than an MBA. The only place it may be out of line is the battery life but I'm not sure I believe the 4 hours thing...

Sterling
on Dec 1, 2012

Maybe Microsoft should have released a Surface RT w/out Office and lower the price. If I were to buy a Windows RT machine (I don't plan to at the moment though) I wouldn't use Office that much aside from Word.

Surface Pro's price does seem high, but maybe the targeted audience can afford it? Isn't Surface Pro more for pro users, say business people? I would buy a Surface Pro if it came with a little perk, like a Touch Cover, but at that price with no cover is just not an option right now. I'll stick with my Nexus 10 and Windows 7 desktop.

NetLogic
on Dec 1, 2012

This is a powerful computer, people stop complaining about battery life. And stop this ridiculous comparison with useless apple products.

SamR
on Dec 1, 2012

The reason MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs get good battery life, better than Ultrabooks is that Apple has control of the OS and Hardware (to a large degre)

SamR
on Dec 1, 2012

The reason MacBook Pros, and MacBook Airs (and especially iPads) get good battery life, better than Ultrabooks is that Apple has control of the OS and hardware (to a large degree)

Hello! Microsoft has the same thing in spades with Surface yet could not pull it off, not even on a totally brand new design in software and hardware, RT. Apple did it with iPad 1!

Don't get me wrong, the Surface gear is pretty good but Microsoft could have hit it out of the ballpark if price and battery life was better. Now it is a also ran.

Jon
on Dec 2, 2012

Yes Paul, MS is getting LOTS of press... great, but so much is negative. It's almost like you are a cool writer if you ditch MS.

I know I am somewhat comparing 'apple and oranges', but who in the press comments points to the horrendously expensive unlocked iPhone 5 that was just released this week: $849 for the 64GB version!!!!

Apple can crazily overcharge for everything they sell b/c it's superbly crafted and gets the press blessings. But if MS (finally) creates a very high end device and charges premium for it, the press (and you Paul) slaps it on the wrist for their genuine and creative R&D and production efforts.

Jim
on Dec 5, 2012

Where do you get a price of $849 ...that must be the no contract price or something. I think some of the complaints against the Surface is that the OS takes up 8 gigs on a 16 gig machine and the Surface is expensive for what it is...or in this case isn't. It isn't mobile if it doesn't have a cellular option and it isn't that powerful to be a high end laptop. It just isn't that great.

pmbAustin
on Dec 3, 2012

I just really don't think it's over-priced.

Consider it competes with the MacBook Air and not the iPad. It's a full, real computer. It's thin and light. It has a higher resolution display. Yes, it has no keyboard at that price, but it does have a digitizing pen. And it can run all your Windows software.

Also consider they needed to price it so as not to piss off OEMs and partners.

The price actually came in almost exactly what I predicted it would be... my prediction was a 128GB Surface Pro with Type cover would clock in around $1200. And so it does. The price is actually comparable to some quality windows 7 tablets I saw out on the market.

So I'm confused about why everyone thinks it's over-priced for what you're getting. It seems completely reasonable and in-line for what you're getting to me.

davidm
on Dec 4, 2012

Hey Paul, whats with the misinformation?

According to the official tweet, Surface has half the BATTER life of surface RT. So it can't take as much punishment, but that has nothing to do with power usage.

pthurrott
on Dec 4, 2012

Sorry. Where and what is the "misinformation"?

davidm
on Dec 4, 2012

it was supposed to be a joke

the surface twitter account had written batter life, not battery life. Batter as in to subject to repeated beatings or physical abuse

Jim
on Dec 6, 2012

I don't understand the Surface or the Surface Pro, they seem like the digital version of a Flying Car! Sounds great but historically they failed because they didn't fly that well and they didn't drive that well! The Surface and the Surface Pro aren't really mobile because they both lack a cellular connection and the Pro lacks battery life! So basically they don't fly very well, and they aren't really a work horse either because they lack a big screen and high end keyboard.

Can you do real work on it? Sure you can create a spreadsheet or even edit a video but who wants to? For jobs like that I want real estate aka big screen. The Surface and the Surface Pro appear to be the digital version of the flying car and if that if that holds true are doomed!

Thadeus
on Dec 5, 2012

Here's something I don't understand.

Have any of you tried to use the 10" screen on the Surface Pro to use the 'classic' Windows desktop? I have. It is effectively unusable because how tiny everything is - including buttons on applications.

Also, classic applications were never designed for touch.

So, if the value proposition for the Surface Pro over the Surface is that it is compatible with existing Intel-based applications, and the applications are unusable, why is the Surface Pro interesting to anyone?

Note that I understand that some people may use the Surface Pro with an external monitor, keyboard, & mouse. But (1) this number has to be a small % of all users (2) for the money needed to buy this rig, you could buy a great, larger-screen laptop.

Add to this 4 hour battery life, applications that don't understand the Windows 8 power management paradigm, viruses, the need for anti-malware, ...

PREDICTION: Return rates will be higher for Surface Pro than for Surface.

Jim
on Dec 5, 2012

Regarding MS Office: I just don't feel MS Office is all that important anymore. I can't find anything that MS Office can do that OpenOffice can't do. OpenOffice works just as easily on a Mac as on a Windows machine and is FREE! The few times I have worked with Apples version of Office, aka Pages, Numbers etc, they seem great too. I can open MS Office documents, make changes and then export it back out as a MS Office document. There are free or inexpensive apps that sure look like they do everything MS Office does and a lot of them are on mobile devices from tablets to phones. I get the feeling people think you can only open, modify and create MS Office documents or MS Office type documents on a Surface Pro or a Windows machine...and that is far from the truth....pretty much anything can do it these days....the limiting factor is screen size....who wants to work on a big spreadsheet on anything but a big screen...you can...but given the choice, you will take the big screen. I seem to remember a study that said your productivity goes up by as much as 30% once the monitor is over 23". Those numbers might be a little off but you get my point.

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