Sure thing. Send me an email. If you're a registered user, I will personally refund the money.
"WINsupersite".. we all await the next incarnation with no reference to "WIN' at all. To each their own, I suppose. Here's an idea... SellOutSupersite.com. It'd give you so much more room in the Android/iPad space. LOL, what a joke this has become. Allegiance to the almighty $.
Someone needs a hug. I'm here for you man.
"Hence I am more inclined to cling on to Windows machines for much longer than Apple products in order to minimise the frequency with which I have to go through the Windows PC upgrade trauma."
Exactly. This is still the biggest barrier to Windows upgrades. It is a nightmare, and Microsoft has still done nothing to fix it. The transfer program only copies basic data, ignoring the elephant in the room, which is the programs. This is one area where OS X still simply smokes Windows and leaves it in the dust. And even though I prefer Windows myself, I always recommend Macs to non-tech friends because it means 90% less work for me. To switch to a new machine you just connect a cable (Firewire or USB) between the two computers (or even to the hard drive of the old computer) when starting the new machine and select Transfer on startup. Ten minutes later your new system is configured as a clone of your old system.
Until Microsoft is able to do that they have a serious problem. One issue is probably copyright fears -- that they're scared about the implications of cloning copies of all functional programs to a new machine -- but they just need to grow a pair and fix it.
I'll be looking for a new desktop, and possibly laptop as well, shortly after Christmas and for the first time ever, I'll probably get a Mac. Why? The cursed crapfest that is Windows8.
You see, I LIKE Windows7. And with a Mac, at least Ill have the option of being able to boot straight into Windows7 or run it inside OSX through Parallels.
No such luck with any new computer I buy. I wont have the option of downgrading to Windows 7, instead Ill be stuck in the awfulness that is Windows 8, in what is essentially a tablet UI forced on all user whether they use a tablet or have touchscreen or not.
And before you go there, YES I'VE TRIED W8, and I hated it. While I like the simplicity and smoothness of my iPad, I also like my desktop and my Startbutton and my Windows in general.
While I agree that Metro might have been an idea, a great one even, on a tablet or other mobile device, forcing it down people's throats isn't going to go over we'll, as Microsoft is beginning to find out...
Microsoft is a mess.
Tell me how, if they are planning to eliminate the desktop at some point in the future, I would do the following that I can do in XP or Win7:
- Watch TV through my internal tuner, in a small resizable window
- Type in MS Word in another window, while
- Researching my Word info in a web browser
Just not possible on Win 8, unless I've missed something.
Let me tell you another mess of win 8. I go on a business trip so decide to teach my non techie wife to use Skype on her brand new Win 8 machine. Well the new Skype interface is totally different. She's never had a Skype account, but *surprise*! she already has one. Since she already has a hotmail account, they've CREATED a Skype account for her! And it's called live:. What a mess! So we log onto Skype with her email password, but of course that doesn't work. We do a pwd reset and the reset token doesn't work, either! And I have to go to the airport now for my international flight! So MS has screwed up Skype and I have no way to talk to my wife internationally short of calling on the hotel phone.
Nice job, MS.
"...the problem is, they may discover that’s all the computer they need and simply opt out of Windows going forward."
It pains me to say this as a techie, but I'm becoming one of these people. Since I left IT, my needs have been streamlined significantly: I can see what 'the other half' actually need.
And I have a confession.
I bought a 64GB iPad 4 for my wife with a nice key-cover thing. And you know who uses it? Me. All the damned time. I can take it out and get two full days' work out of it. I've already written two papers on it, complete with tables, math figures and vector graphics -- all created on the iPad with $10 apps.
It just does the job and gets out of the way. It's polished. Everything just works. No cruft no fuss, consistent operation. If it falls under a bus I can buy another one cheaply and restore it *exactly* and *effortlessly* in a few minutes. It has cool games and a heap of nice, vetted stuff available to me. I can read on its beautiful screen. I have finally seen what all those thousands of talented staff at Apple are doing all day.
I don't care that it doesn't hold a candle to Win8. And it hurt me to say that.
TL;DR: iPad is enough. And so, I imagine, is a Nexus 10.
Are you listening, Microsoft? Because you're breaking my heart.
The numbers would be much more interesting if computers would be sold without operating system.
Well, anyway ... I'm looking forward to buy Lenovo Yoga. I'm not totally confident about their UEFI implementation though  - very sad Lenovo, really.
You also missed the DRM. No, if you don't like 8, you can't turn in into 7, xp, linux, or a Hackintosh, or even milti-boot! Probably not even boot a cd to recover or fix something.
Vista was drm for hd-dvd masquerading as an upgrade. Win 8 is worse, you mentioned developers. I won't buy a computer I can't write my own free apps for.
They are trying to be a supermax prison farm to Apple's version (walled gardens have an exit and don't have guard towers and razor wire).
Well, there are always chromebooks.
This is an outright lie.
You can write your own free desktop apps still. Hell, you can write your own free Modern UI apps as well.
Sheesh, people will run with any misinformation that they want.
I have ordered and not yet recieved a Asus laptop, a 920, and a 822... Got windows 8 the day it came out... I am looking forward to the new Windows 8 eco-system... Also I noticed not a lot has actualy Ben avaliable on the store shelves. All my perchases have been on-line...
Unfortunately this story already has a severe negative impact for Microsoft and Windows 8. Since Paul's blog is read all over the world the negative news is already being spread by local media in Belgium, The Netherlands and probably other countries to. There is a risk that this story actually helped turning Windows 8 in the next 'Vista' (as perceived by general public).
It is more tham perception. As a person trying to deal with a user who is angry and frustrated over this idiotic Smart Phone on a laptop concept I can tell you it is way more than perception.
As windows 8 came out, i just upgraded my laptop (lenovo) one year old like i always do on any of their programs......And how glad i was with windows 7, how disappointing was the result with windows 8. No Uefi support, no blue-tooth, webcam, wifi..... common software packages needed to be updated (and thus bought). My antivirus software was not even ready for windows 8. The build-in anti spam is as leak as can be. 16% of the (normal) malware walks through without being noticed.
But then the interface. The lack of the menu start button on the normal desktop, the need for the mouse going from down left corner to get back to the start window to the top right to get the settings window to be able to shutdown your pc.
Suppose you have a 24" touch monitor. Instead of a rsi problem by mouse usage you get one from trying to touch your big monitor. Who sits infront such a big monitor at a distance so you can touch it with your fingers?
Windows8 stayed on my laptop for about 1 hour. Luckily I had a image om my windows 7 install and went back asap because i never could have been more disappointed to a new OS then what microsoft delivered here by windows 8.
I only found one plus: The booting speed. But this was also great at windows 7 when it was released until they started patching it. So we can wait on that to happen on windows 8 as well.
What were they thinking at microsoft? That we are stupid? That they can just shuff such modified OS through our troat? Everybody who asked me about windows 8 and should he/she migrate got the same answer : "No i cant advice you todo so !"
Those disappointing sales are not at all a surprise to me. Microsoft should have listen to the market when the beta releases were out. It is and was all said before, but you must be utterly blind and deaf not to respond and act to those signals they got for free before hand. Don't they have a R&D devision at Microsoft?
I think the thing that Microsoft really missed is that given a persistent wireless network, you have to redesign the entire computer. Hardware, operating system, and apps. All totally redesigned from the ground up. Wireless networking is that big a change from wired networking. Microsoft really needed to launch Microsoft Tiles(R) to go with Microsoft Windows(R) — not because Apple did it that way, but because that is what is required by the addition of a persistent wireless network to the user's computing life. WIRELESS NETWORKING IS THE KILLER APP RIGHT NOW. Everything in hardware and software has to be redone to support that one app.
If you have wireless networking everywhere you go, even outside, 24 hours per day, 7 days per week, you want a computer to access that network which can also be with you 24 hours per day, 7 days per week, and with enough battery to be available for your use any time during that day that you want to access the network. Everything in the hardware and software has to be redone to have minimal battery impact so that the user is not shut off from the wireless network. The battery has to also be very small because the hardware is mobile, it's following the wireless network and the user around all day. So everything has to sip power. That is not how a traditional PC works or how it was designed.
And the wireless bandwidth is going to be constrained for the forseeable future, and it is always going to disappear on you intermittently and you have to be ready for that not just in the networking stack, but all through the software stack, unlike traditional PC's. And with such persistent but constrained bandwidth, all the operating system files, apps, documents, media, etc. need to be highly optimized, tightly compressed, because we expect them to get onto the device not through a big Ethernet pipe, not through a big DVD pipe, but through the tiny wireless network pipe. Telling the user to use high-speed serial cable to get data onto their device from a Mac/PC is a 2001 iPod feature that predates USB2, not a feature that supports persistent wireless networking.
And if the data on the device is all Zip-compressed and highly-optimized, then it can live and work in 16 or 32 GB solid-state storage, even when shooting video, recording multitrack audio, and other tasks that make giant files. And the device can be very fast even if it only has 1 GB of system memory and minimal bandwidth into and out of the SoC. The fact that the wireless network is small leads to the rest of the computer getting smaller but still being big enough. The smaller computer is more mobile, more suited to wireless networking. The device can then be more responsive than a PC even though it has much smaller hardware muscle. And it can be exponentially “smarter” than a PC because it is aware in its bones about wireless networking and mobility and instant-on and it expects you to be on an escalator in an airport, not at a desk in an office, and these days, you are more likely to be in the former kind of workflow than the latter, because you are surrounded by persistent wireless networking 24/7 and only at a desk 40 of those hours, if that.
Another feature of this is this new redesigned-for-wireless-mobility computer now works for all the people who don't have desk jobs, which is more than you think. Many people drive all day with a clipboard and then have to do an hour or two of data entry back at the office after a long shift, and sometimes they are not even paid for that. Many salespeople have had to take the customer from where the product is to an unrelated desk to close the sale via PC. A clipboard with wireless networking and a computer designed for wireless networking inside it is what those users have always been waiting for. Having a mouse and keyboard attached to your tablet is not helpful for those users at all. Legacy is noise to those users, no signal at all. And those users outnumber traditional office PC users something like 5:1.
So by failing to truly redesign NT for mobility, for wireless networking as the single highest priority application, Microsoft is still only making desktop PC's, and will still only sell traditional Windows PC users, who thanks to mobile alternatives, have less need for a desktop PC than ever, even a tiny one. Microsoft sales are not going to grow into the mobile/wireless market when they are still only selling desktop PC's (notebooks are just portable desktops,) not selling mobile PC's optimized for wireless networking or for clipboard replacement.
Surface RT is all the wrong moves all in one device. Surface RT is a desktop PC. Surface RT has a mouse, keyboard, Microsoft Office, and even a floppy disk. Surface is a miniaturized 1980's Mac, whereas iPad is a mobilized 2012 Mac. If you could put a Mac user from 1985 at the next desk from a Surface user of 2012, they are doing the same work in the same Word and Excel apps with the same mouse and keyboard. You would catch them at the same time, both moving the mouse to the Save command that doesn't even exist anymore on iPad. Why is the Surface user at a desk at all, to get Ethernet and AC power? That is why the 1985 Mac user was at a desk. The original Mac had a handle and carrying case, you could take it from place to place. But you had to set it up on a desk to use it, just like Surface. Meanwhile the iPad user is showing a presentation to a client over lunch down the street, while drinking the Windows user's milkshake.
A couple of years ago, people were giving Steve Ballmer grief that there was no Microsoft answer to iPad. There still is no Microsoft answer to iPad. There is only the answer to the question of how small a Windows desktop PC can get before it has to drop the Intel chip and all the Windows apps. And an answer to how bad iPad sales would have been if it was running Mac OS.
> I actually like Windows 8 quite a bit and can’t imagine switching back.
> But I do understand the complaints of customers who aren’t getting
> what they wanted or asked for.
You were able to spend the time decoding what Windows 8 is and does and set your expectations accordingly. To most people, Windows 8 sounds like a newer version of Windows 7, the third party operating system for IBM-compatible personal computers. When it is not that, they are going to be stymied. That is what the name implies.
Again, they needed to do a separate Tiles(R) system, and they needed to ship a Tiles version of Microsoft Office on it from day one, same as iOS has always, always, always had iPod+iTunes. And not Windows CE from 1996, either. Underneath Tiles should be the same modern NT from Windows PC and Xbox. The Tiles system and apps need to be lean, but not weak. The lesson of iPhone was Apple turned a heavyweight boxer into a featherweight boxer, not a featherweight weakling like all the other mobile devices. It stunned me to see Windows Phone 7 launch with CE underneath. I couldn't believe they wasted their time on that.
I have a MBP with Windows 8. If you don't like the Modern UI, you can stay in the desktop still. Sensationalist much?
How? Seriously HOW HOW HOW? And please don't be condescending.
"My source cited to me the PC makers’ “inability to deliver,”..."
This response is starting to sound like a cop-out and justification for further entries into the hardware market. First, MS announces support for ARM, increasing tension with Intel. Then it announces its own devices, increasing tension with OEMs. Now it blames OEMs for Win8's slow start. Where in all this does MS actually work with its partners instead of alienate them?
Don't get me wrong, MS has a legitimate beef with OEMs, who were not innovating or adding value and, ultimately, tarnishing MS's brand. That's why I really enjoyed Paul's discussion with Kevin Eagan, who seems like a very smart guy, and his coverage of MS's retail and Signature PC efforts.
But, if I were a PC OEM, I'd be getting a little peeved at MS's constant dissing. Did MS ever consider that the range of Win8 devices is confusing because OEMs aren't sure what kind of user experience MS envisions with the OS? MS shouldn't have to do the OEMs' job for them, but if it has a vision for how Win8 devices should look and act, it should share it. Surely the Surface can't be MS's only vision for a Win8 device. Instead, because it's not clear what consumers will embrace, it seems that OEMs like Lenovo are just throwing a bunch of concepts at the wall and seeing what sticks.
If I were leading an OEM, I'd take a serious look at our relationship with MS and have my team consider alternative products and routes to market, including potentially scaling Android up to more productivity-based devices.
As there is big changes within Windows 8 and that Windows 7 was a great success, it is probably too early to judge if Windows 8 is going to fail or not. Further, I'm quite sure that during the first months of Windows XP, the sales where below expectations as well... And 10 years later, no would deny it was a success. Only time will tell...
The hardware selection at the traditional electronic stores is abysmal. On launch day I went to local Best Buy, they had 1 touchscreen device, and the salespeople were predictably clueless. Office Depot actually had a better selection and staff. I think the good hardware is yet to come and that may boost sales. I did get a great demo at the San Jose Store Microsoft Store where a salesman really made the OS shine, I will by a new Win 8 device but the hardware isn't that impressive yet.
I want a 7 inch Windows tablet!
Sales aren't up yet for a couple reasons:
1) It's new and different with not enough application support yet, causing people to "wait". Wait for the reviews to come in, apps to come in, device choices to be made in their mind, business implementation details to be ironed out, reasons to buy.
2) Crappy Microsoft Marketing. If they'd called "Windows RT" something more understandable like "Windows 8 Tab", maybe sales of that tablet-metro-app-only kind of device would improve. What's with the crazy surface clicking and dancing commercial? The public learned absolutely nothing about Windows 8 or RT from that. Sheesss, just show a kid actually using new Windows devices and demonstrating something useful.
Of course, sales expectations are unreasonably high too, considering the newness and massive changes made. I expect sales will grow high, steadily as people learn more and warm up to it.
Never mind that corporate users aren't going to upgrade to Windows 8, because most home users aren't either. We literally "stocked up" on Windows 7 computers (2 about 2 years old, 2 new this year) so that we could "ride out" the Windows 8 storm and wait for something better down the road. We did this with Vista as well, and never regretted it a single day.
In fairnes, other companies are messing things up as well.
Msft isnt alone, they are just the biggest blunder of the lot of them.
Next few years will be better served by using my win 7 machines until they are smouldering piles of wreckage...while patiently studying up on Debian Linux just in case.
Yup,the next years are going to good years to buy anything but a computer.
I am using Win 8 x 64 RTM on a i7 desktop machine, It is fast, boots quickly and all in all, I am reasonably satisfied with it. However, there a re a few things that really irk me. Microsoft, if you want to make Win 8 a success on the desktop, here's what's needed.
1. We have a new start menu with tiles (Modern). Open an app and then close it and I'm back to the start menu. Open say Word, zapped to the desktop and Word opens. Close it and I'm stuck on the desktop.
It's like being back in early Windows when you opened the C drive, battled down to say the windows folder and when closed was back up to the top alphabetical folder resulting in more scrolling if I wanted to opened a folder off the screen.
If I start on the START screen and close any app or legacy application, I want to be back at the damn START screen and not hitting keys or closing the desktop app so I can find the next app, game or whatever I want to run. What's the point of pinning items to the Start screen. If I go to the desktop and run a program and exit, I should go back to the desktop. Just BLOODY fix it!
2. Search is crapped over. Why do I have to select Apps, Settings or Files. Most of the time there are two or three lonely icons in a vast expanse of nothing. DUMB! DUMB! and DUMBER!!!
3. Why the hell can't I select where I want Apps from the Store to be installed? I have an SSD drive with videos, documents etc all residing on another drive. When the SSD starts to fill, I will not be buying any further Apps. Microsoft, you are doing your App developers a DISSERVICE. Why can't they reside in an encrypted folder on another drive?
I installed Windows 8 on a traditional desktop pc, and then gave it to my father-in-law, who never used Windows 7. His comments were interesting to me. He said that it is a lot different, but something he can get used to. After he used it for a week, he told me that he launches the Desktop app, and leaves it there, since pretty much everything he uses is there, and will not run in the Metro UI. For him, the WinRT devices would not be enough. He is not a Power User by any means. He refuses to install any updates or programs until after consulting me, and or having me do the actual installation. If Microsoft wants WinRT to succeed, they need to bridge this gap for Apps, and quickly. Although they do have the cash to simple sit and wait for developers to catch up. We'll see if the developers that create the programs I use on a daily basis will even mess with it. I for one, decided to skip WinRT altogether in favor of the Intel SOC. I am still wating for my Acer Iconia Tab w510 to arrive, but have a feeling that this is exactly what I've been waiting for in a tablet design. It is coming with the keyboard dock, and I am very excited about the BATTERY LIFE! 18hours between the Tablet and the Dock. I had an Asus Windows 7 EP121 that cost a fortune, and the biggest draw back that I had with it, was the battery life.
"Even Vista sold hundreds of millions of copies a year. Windows 8 will certainly do better than that."
Only if you count tablets and phones. Vista was exclusively a desktop/laptop operating system. As is Win 8 is not going to sell millions of copies in the desktop market. I doubt it will even make it to 100s of thousands.
I was someone watching Metro from the sidelines and didn't like it at all. I had a Galaxy Nexus 10.1 tablet and Galaxy S3 Smartphone. I went to the Microsoft Kiosk to check out the tablet and loved it. So much so that I bought a Lumia 920 and I upgraded my 3 PCs to Win8.
You guys are all likely used to these live tiles. I'm not. They are completely new to me. I think they are awesome. And I have seen them in photographs for years but never liked them. Yet when I saw the Surface RT in person, I completely changed my mind.
The problem with upgrading your existing PC to Windows 8 is that most of us don't have a touch screen. And it seems like we should. The last PC I bought was a Dell 13 XPS ultrabook. I love this laptop. And it seems so perfect for Windows 8, except that it lacks a touch screen.
I think sales will take off. And I think those making hardware are about to make a killing. But before that can happen they need to compelling hardware that gives Windows 8 what it wants, which is touch!
The problem with DELL and HP and so many others is that they seem to have invested zero dollars in making their PCs awesome. For years they have loaded them up with horrible crapware that everyone can't wait to get rid of. Their laptops are heavy, noisy and bogged down with horrible software.
I know Paul hates these Bing Tiles because they have ads. Let me tell you I love these BING tiles. I even switched from Google to BING because of these BING tiles. Buy an Android or an iPhone, and look at a stock app. Now look at the BING Finance tile and tell me that it isn't 5 to 7 years better than anything on iOS and Android. Seriously it is not even a contest. The travel tile is drop-dead awesome.
We want good CONTENT!!!! And those two BING Tiles really deliver it. Microsoft needs to do more things like that. Live, updated content that MATTERS is king.
The tablet apps are tablet apps, unlike Google's tablet apps which are stretched out phone apps. And the ability to share a screen with two apps! Awesome!! Make that work more for you by making tools that make that special. Clock and calc on the side of your other app? Twitter on the left, browser on the right?? Stuff like that will sell the feature like CRAZY.
My RT feels so much more responsive than my Galaxy Note 10.1. I belong to a group of Galaxy owners and we're all talking about Win8. We're all looking for good Win8 products. They just aren't there yet.
The OS is so new and so completely different. It wasn't going to sell in droves. It's going to take a few early adopters to love it and to shout it from the roof tops before others decide it is worth trying. The people in my office are asking me what I think. They stand behind me and watch me use it and ask questions. It's happening but it takes time.
Now, with the Lumia 920 and syncing music, Microsoft got all stupid and didn't sync playlists. There is a whole forum of people who switched from Android and iOS to the Lumia and are confused about this as am I. Microsoft MUST STOP screwing up and dropping the ball. It's like they need a normal guy over there to tell them when they are screwing up. Hey guys, no sync, what planet are you on? That's a major feature that needs to be there. And when you tell them, they all act all stupid. That doesn't build confidence at all. I don't want to hear idiots. I want professionals that just say, yeah we had to go with what we had, but that feature is up next month. We're working on it and stay put, it's going to be awesome. They need to get ahead of issues like this and own up and fix them. Tell their customers it's on the way. Just don't leave us to be confused and wonder if they get it at all. That's not how to handle this. We need to know that it is going to be taken care of. They need a public relations head that listens, understands and let's us early adopters know what is going on.
When Apple first started making Final Cut Pro they went to the community and basically said, the top ten things we want as a group, WILL make it in there. We voted on what was important and Apple listened. And that brought them customers in DROVES.
HP, DELL, you guys really need to do your homework. Stop making horrible computers. Make PCs we'd be proud to own. Notice how every time there is a new awesome graphics card, they sell really well? That's because kids want them. Make a computer that is awesome and it will be the talk of the town and we'll likely even pay a premium for it. But you guys make the worst crap and wonder why none of us are excited. Recession? Yeah, it exists, and from 2008 to 2012 when the stock market took a 60% haircut, Apple was selling iPhones like crazy and went from $135 stock to $700 stock. So don't tell me it is the recession. Stop blaming everyone but yourselves. With all the money that is on the table I don't for the life of me understand how you guys let 90% of the crap you call products see the light of day. What is wrong with you guys? Do you guys seriously have no clue what good and bad is? You engineer types don't seem to understand what makes something consumer appealing at all.
Use the Logitech T650 touch pad (supports 13 gestures) if you have Windows 8 on a non-touch machine. It's awesome. Heck, it would have been awesome before I put Windows 8 on my machine!
+1 on this, it does make things better. although it's not the same as using a touchscreen (i.e. you cant press a location on the pad and emulate a finger press on the screen) it does make life easier
"It’s the economy, stupid"
Tell that to Lenovo who has increased sales more than 60% to become the biggest PC manufacturer, the explain why most if the people buying PC's in China and Hong Kong are asking the retailer to remove Windows 8 before buying the product.
I don't know if this is a confirmed statement about people asking to remove Windows 8, but if its true I'm interested in that explanation? Is it because they are afraid of something new? Or because they read somewhere that its "bad"?? They're making a mistake if they remove Windows 8!
I don't know the reasons but I understand enough Chinese to have noticed some of the comments "Gou Shi" is Chinese for "dog $hit" meaning rubbish. It is common here to be able to request a specific OS, it's just the US where its forced on you.
I would remove it if I wouldn't lose my warranty. It is a SmartPhone OS on a PC. The simple task of dragging a folder or file to a programs has become a nightmare for my wife in Peru and I can't get to her to help. And of course no real support from MS.
This is about msft reinventing,people dont catch up quick nor businesses,but this will be the new beginning for msft,they have to do this,they have to create windows rt,/8,they have to show people that msft is still the biggest software maker out there..windows8 will be fine,consumers will get the hang of it,consumers will learn to like it..traditional PC look will be lost forever..so all this talks about not selling well are all B.S!! Paul have to write something, now that synofski is gone its time for him to finish his book...
The developers of Gnome for Linux thought the same thing and here we are a year later with them being dropped by every major distro and replacements that bring back the traditional and proven interface that is more productive, the only difference being that Microsoft has made Metro impossible to remove. On a phone or small tablet it looks and works great, but on a desktop it is trash, we tried it for awhile on production PC's and that caused productivity to drop by 30% with all the extra steps and time wasted dodging the Metro interface, in the work environment data consumption is not a priority and is prevented by IT departments to one level or another.
10k of our PC's have been migrated to Linux Mint with some modifications to make it more usable to the average user, so far there have been no problems and that is going to result in our company making a choice to stay with Windows 7 for a little longer or go completely with Linux.
My opinion. Julie Larson Green brought us the new Start Page and the Ribbon, two things I greatly dislike (I've never gotten used to or like the Ribbon, I find the traditional menus much easier to navigate). If we get more innovations like that I won't be expecting much.
I for an instance prefer the new Start screen over the old Start menu. In Windows 7 I had to go to Start->Programs->MS Office->MS Word to run the application and in Windows 8 I just press the Start button on my keyboard and then pick the application (sorry, app) I want to run. If I don't already have it pinned to the taskbar that is. And if it's not on the Start screen and not pinned to the taskbar, I just press Start and type the name of the application (just like in Windows 7). The desktop part of Windows looks better with the 90 degree window corners and finally MS decided to have the taskbar on every screen in a multi monitor setup.
Not being able to boot to the desktop to me is a weak argument. First of all, when you hibernate (which I mostly do and I suppose most peeps do) and start the computer again you return to the place you hibernated it from (like the desktop) and when you do a full restart of the system, the first thing you want to do when the system is up, is to run an application. And where can you pin those apps??? Right, on the Start screen.
Nice example. Can you explain the simple task of dragging and dropping a folder to a program, like Adobe Bridge, and having it open? Seriously tell me how to do this. The desktop loaded with programs, and links to the same, (sorry APPS) and folders of files is the way it is done not the damn start menu.
Microsoft projects windows 7 to sell 177 million by the end of 09, Microsoft only sells a third (60 million), ends up selling 700+ million.
Windows 8 misses unkown internal sales projections, Paul Thurott goes nuclear.
No offense, but that is unfair, and I won't be allowing this kind of BS anymore.
I did not go "nuclear."
Microsoft has missed its internal sales projections for Windows 8. Period. I reported that. I then offered up some more options about why this happened, beyond just blaming the OEMs (PC makers), as Microsoft has done.
How is this "nuclear"? I've just presented a fact and then speculated about why it may have happened.
Christ, get over yourself.
We get that they missed the sales projections, but you are prematurely burying Microsoft with regurgitated nonsense that you find on other platforms' fanboy sites.
-Complaining that under Sinofsky there was lack of transparency,and suggest that consumers could look elsewhere. And that elsewhere is going to be more transparent? Ha. We all know you're not a fan because Sinofsky kept a tight lid. Next.
-Totally dismissing that windows tablets exist when talking about how consumers might stretch out their next pc purchase and buy an ipad or "other tablet" and be content to opt out of windows. Really?
- Hardware choice is now all of a sudden confusing and bad?
"Imagine Apple announcing a major new version of iOS and then releasing a new tablet that runs Mac OS X instead of that new iOS version. Doesn’t make a lick of sense, does it? Well, that’s what Microsoft did:"
No,they didn't. They didn't announce a new version of windows phone 8 ,but put windows 7 on a tablet instead. And stop acting like consumers are brainless idiots. Walk into a best buy or whatever, and every windows 8 computer has the demo where it shows the new start screen and metro apps,and shows you can go to desktop to run desktop apps. Now Windows RT is the same,except no desktop apps. Really,how hard is that? I'm sure these idiot consumers were so confused with all the new windows features since windows 95 that they didn't even bother to upgrade.
And even if Microsoft did do that, so what? Just because it wasn't something apple did,then its automatically wrong?
-The delayed surface pro was known for a long time. Everything that doesn't go the way you think it should always doesn't make sense. Could it be that they had trouble sourcing their components? Bad yields on the displays? Got a bad batch of VaporMg? Maybe they didn't want to surface pro to bury the windows rt version immediately,so they delayed it. Remember, the surface stuff might be serving other purposes than Microsoft trying to be the number 1 PC maker.
-The clover trail stuff is meant for cheaper,low power devices that compete with arm, so how is it that 2GB is resource constrained? especially since the competition is using even lower specs.
Sure Paul, you did offer options on why this happened, but you took the missed sales projections thing too far,to mean something completely different, like total failure and flop. Hell, they could have sold 60 million already,but were aiming for double. You don't know (maybe you do but you haven't presented that information). But if that were the case would you have written the same things you have?
This is obviously unreasonable, as any sane person can see.
I don't "regurgitate nonsense from other platforms' fanboy sites." This suggests both that I read fan boy sites and that I am a fan boy. Neither is true.
There were many reasons to dislike Sinofsky. He did attempt, multiple times, to harm my career, so there's a personal reason that has a lot more to do with me not liking him than any lack of transparency. This was the central issue leading to his ouster: His behavior towards me was common with those around him. But regarding transparency, I've said before that I do think there is a happy middle ground between his craziness and complete openness. More reasonable than your claim.
Choice is good. Too much choice is confusing, yes. This is a commonly understood issue.
And so on.
Again, I don't mind reasonable criticisms. But none of what you wrote is reasonable. And you're just wasting my time by forcing me to reexplain things that are obvious and have been communicated before. So that's the end of that.
I'm all in with Microsoft. Will buy 2 Pro's and my work is switching the entire salesforce and some other depts to Win8 tablets...might be Pro's not sure yet on that.
Also switching everyone to Win8 phones in our company. 200 employees.
Our I.T. dept says they will wait a quarter or two and then pull the trigger on the backend stuff.
I have to think that the Enterprise world will embrace Win8.
SMARTGLASS ! Look it up....that is the real deal
Biggest problem for new sales is no upgrade to Pro. If I have an old Laptop and want to upgrade. I get Win 8 Pro for $25-40. If I buy a new Laptop with Win 8 Home on there is no discount. Spend all week trying to find two Laptops with Win 7 on.
The problem with Windows 8 is that it fails every usability test. OS is great under the hood but unusable therefore after my initial attempt to be productive on Windows 8 i had to switch back to Windows 7. Windows 8 is not good in anything, and MS strategy to make OS which will serve any platform is completely wrong. Also definition of PC Ms is trying to sell along with Windows 8 is wrong in so many levels. Tablets and Phones are not PCs but rather PM (Personal Mobile), new type of devices emerged in recent years. PC was and is the same thing and didn't change or evolve and there is no reason to evolve into anything actually. Windows 7 with its start menu perfectly worked for PCs and MS should not touch that. Metro is less at so many levels and in order to grab some mobile market MS sacrified whole Windows Eco System ruining absolutely everything they worked hard for for years. Btw Metro is the most boring interface i have seen in my life.
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